A revolution in the works? “According to a Pew poll released last week, more than half of Americans view government as a threat to their freedom. And it’s not just Republicans unhappy with Obama, or gun owners afraid that the government will take their guns: 38% of Democrats, and 45% of non-gun owners, see the government as a threat.” When Congress deemed and passed Obamacare in the face of widespread, majority opposition, it became obvious the system was broken.

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redabogado February 4, 2013 at 5:05 pm

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Could it be the low information voter is waking up to reality? NOT……

jcrowley1985 February 4, 2013 at 5:17 pm

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Ron Paul woke everyone up.

PsychoDad February 4, 2013 at 5:25 pm

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SHUT UP CREEPY CRAWLEY

poppajoe49 February 4, 2013 at 8:51 pm

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RP bored everyone to sleep.

KW Willy February 4, 2013 at 9:26 pm

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then he fell back to sleep. Poor poor ron. He’s just tooooo old, senile and stupid.

sa_rose February 5, 2013 at 10:00 am

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Ron Paul isn’t even awake. See the next thread.

PsychoDad February 4, 2013 at 5:34 pm

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Medal of Honor recipient Dakota Meyer to Ron Paul: ‘Have you lost your mind?’

jcrowley1985 February 4, 2013 at 5:37 pm

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An obvious answer of “no”

poppajoe49 February 4, 2013 at 8:53 pm

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The only thing obvious about your comment is that you’re fucking stupid.

flashingscotsman February 6, 2013 at 12:13 pm

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TD,…………………..MO.

andre53 February 4, 2013 at 5:44 pm

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Until I see hard facts to indicate otherwise, I have to see this glass as not only half empty, but probably soon to be broken, leaving us with no glass and no water.

I have to assume that this is an extension of the low approval ratings for Congress that we routinely see coincident with the re-election of 98% of the incumbents. In other words, there is either some abstract philosophical concept of “gov’t” that is perceived as the threat, while Obama, Schumer, Reid, et al are seen as “our heros”, fighting for the little guy against this ethereal, indefinite “threat,

or,

The threat that people are referring to are those “other guys” who are being meanies, not being bi-paritsan, and looking out only for the special interests. THEY are the ones who make gov’t bad and threatening. If it wasn’t for THEM, MY guys would have this country just humming along like a well-oiled machine.

Of course, it would be informative to know the respondents’ definitions of “threat” and “freedom”. What a dyed-in-the-wool liberal would call a threat might be very different from a libertarian’s view.

jcrowley1985 February 4, 2013 at 5:49 pm

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There is quite a definite threat, and that is Corporate Greed, the Federal Reserve being its flagship.

Not so silent February 4, 2013 at 6:32 pm

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Eat Feces and expire moron…..Isn’t there enough to do in East Saint Louis? Maybe take up crack smoking like all the other losers..

andre53 February 6, 2013 at 3:32 am

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And did you notice this? My post is on the 4th of Feb, at 5:44.

The 4 contains a triangle.

And the triangle is the symbol of the Trialteral Commission!

Coincidence?

I THINK NOT!

Progressive Hemrrhoid February 4, 2013 at 5:52 pm

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It only took the “We’ve come from the Government, and we’re here to help” line of bullshit to wake most people up. And just who are these people helping? Why themselves of course.
Thus the push for gun control rather then fixing the deficit or creating jobs, We are one more financial crisis way from the shit hitting the fan, and they know it.

deepthinker February 4, 2013 at 7:20 pm

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Once again an oppressive government is doing its utter best to start another civil war. As those who just knew barry would take care of all their needs are finding out, he and his clowns are taking care of only themselves. From barry care costing 20K for a family of 4 right up to looking at taking control of people’s 401Ks, this communist has no damn clue of the shit storm that he is stirring. Something else, I learned today from my Chropractor that there are 29 questions that those in the medical profession are to ask a patient. He smiled when I answered them with I’ll invoke my constitutional rights.

poppajoe49 February 4, 2013 at 8:58 pm

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If you’re concerned about your 401k, do yourself a favor. Cash it out, pay the 20% penalty and hide it.
Either buy gold and sliver, or invest it in weapons and survival supplies. One way or the other, you will lose money, but losing 20% beats the hell out of losing everything.

charpaddy February 5, 2013 at 5:37 am

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poppajoe49: this is exactly my thought. At least you can salvage SOME of what you have saved all your life because deepthinker is correct, the government is going to take our 401ks…they are just trying to figure out a way to do it with the least amount of fuss.

And losing 20% DOES beat the hell out of losing it all.’

jcrowley1985 February 5, 2013 at 7:21 am

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Funny how your concerned about losing 20% when you lost a lot more when you allowed Corporate Greed to debase our currency back in 1964. It is YOUR generation’s fault that MY generation suffers for, asshole.

poppajoe49 February 5, 2013 at 7:49 am

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Dumbshit, I was 5 years old in 1964, even if I understood this, I was too young to do anything about it!
My generation is suffering because your generation thinks it doesn’t need to work for a living, so not only are we having to work harder to pay the taxes it takes to run the government, but we are not going to have anything to retire on because we are supporting your lazy ass!

StrinaM February 5, 2013 at 7:55 am

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FU Crowley. You don’t speak for anyone but the stupid.

poppajoe49 February 5, 2013 at 5:14 pm

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And even the stupid are disavowing him.

PsychoDad February 5, 2013 at 8:18 am

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SHUT UP, CREEPY CRAWLY.

sa_rose February 5, 2013 at 10:05 am

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and again the moron speaks. I am probably the oldest on this thread. In 1964 I was 13. I remember bills that used to say they were exchangable for the real thing. Note that isn’t present any longer. MY generation didn’t do s*** to you.

jcrowley1985 February 5, 2013 at 10:07 am

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And again in 1982 with pennies. Yes, it was not as substantial but same concept.

And we still have to pay for your social security even though by the time we are old enough to utilize it, it will most likely be bankrupt.

Not so silent February 5, 2013 at 10:19 am

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Spare us your wit and wisdom….Your constant drizzle is same shit-different day…here’s an idea, try a new thought, look for a job and become part of the solution, not part of the problem of freeloaders who think everyone should pay for their stuff….I will listen to you when you actually start paying taxes and not just spout opinions about which you know NOTHING….eat feces and expire and have a nice day.

poppajoe49 February 5, 2013 at 5:17 pm

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Once again:
DUMBASS, Social Security will be going bankrupt on me too, even though I have been working and paying into it since I was 13 years old, I won’t be able to collect it! You have nothing to say since you probably have contributed less than $500 into SS, while I have put in many thousands of dollars.

Alien February 5, 2013 at 7:02 pm

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My expectation was i’d be collecting 75% of benefits in 2030′s when I retire, unless they figure out how to extend the fund

poppajoe49 February 5, 2013 at 11:23 pm

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Not even that much, if you’re lucky.

sa_rose February 6, 2013 at 10:01 am

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I never expected to collect SS when I was younger. The government was stealing money from the fund even then. And had I not developed Kidney failue, I would still be working, as I would not be allowed to retire til 2-3 years after my parents’ generation. That my work for desk jobs, but for those of us who actually WORK, hard physical work, requiring workinf into late 60′s, even 70′s is rediculous. You, on the other hand could be a leech well into your 80′s. Oh, but not on SS. Even if the fund had gazillions of dollars in it, you wouldn’t qualify,because you actually have to workm at a real job and pay into the system for a certain number of quarters. And you don’t. Good luck under your bridge.

jcrowley1985 February 6, 2013 at 10:21 am

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And had I not developed Kidney failue, I would still be working

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So you admit to scamming the system too. I mean if you are well enough to post here, you are well enough to do a desk job apparently. And that is NOT my opinion. Several of you have used that very excuse to argue against people getting free cell phones.

ooddballz February 6, 2013 at 10:36 am

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No welfare whore, YOU just admitted scamming the system.
She admitted having KIDNEY FAILURE. As I understand it, that can be a DEBILITATING disease, which in its latter stages severely limits you.
YOU, on the other hand are only limited to (self admittedly) scamming the system by tour UNWILLINGNESS to work.
I would not have thought it possible, but you have sunk even lower in my opinion of you.

By the way, I send your admission of “scamming the system” and your IP address to the welfare fraud people. Enjoy your time in prison, I know we will.

jcrowley1985 February 6, 2013 at 10:43 am

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How do you know I’m unwilling to work? That is just your accusation. Also, you have no evidence to back up your claim that I am scamming anything because I’m not. They already know I do part time work when I get the opportunity (proof of my willingness to work).

Also, you completely missed the point of my last post. I didn’t call her out that her condition prevented her from working; but merely to state the hypocrisy that you guys used the very same excuse to bash people who receive free cell phones. That excuse being “if you are well enough to post here, you are well enough to work”, which you just told me is a complete lie as apparently it is not applicable to her.

ooddballz February 6, 2013 at 11:02 am

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She has stated she is willing to work if she could.
We have mentioned work to you on numerous occasions, only to be answered that you will not work because of CORPORATE GREED.

And your admission of scamming the system.

So you admit to scamming the system too.
First line in your post. A plain admission you are scamming the system.

jcrowley1985 February 6, 2013 at 11:07 am

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My feelings about Corporate Greed are no indication that I’m unwilling to work. I’m free to have my own opinions.

“too” referencing all the others you accuse of scamming via the free cell phones.

ooddballz February 6, 2013 at 11:21 am

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Welfare whore, I do NOT have the patience to dig through the posts where , when work was mentioned, your reply has been along the lines of; “Why should I support greedy corporations?”

The posts are legion, and we ALL know it. Hence my charge you are UNWILLING TO WORK.

Again, Ms. Rose has stated on many occasions that SHE WOULD PREFER TO WORK AND PAY HER OWN WAY! Also, I would bet that IF she has an “Obumma phone”, it is only 1, is used for the purpose for which it is intended, and is NOT the latest model. As we have ALL stated before, we have NO PROBLEM with folks who have paid into the system and find themselves having to rely on it. Specially those who would RATHER NOT have to rely on it. Then there are those who, through no fault of their own (special needs folks) who need the system to exist.
Then there is YOU, a welfare leech with a sense of entitlement who will forever suck more from the system than he will EVER contribute, then whine because he thinks he is ENTITLED to more.

jcrowley1985 February 6, 2013 at 11:34 am

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So anyone who has not paid into the system is a leech in your book regardless of the circumstances; even if they were never given the chance to work and pay their own way.

flashingscotsman February 6, 2013 at 12:37 pm

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TD,…………..MO.

Thanks for the turds, Crawley. That felt good.

poppajoe49 February 6, 2013 at 4:29 pm

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Wrong asshole, we use the fact that they post here as proof that they can AFFORD a cell phone!

sa_rose February 6, 2013 at 1:02 pm

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Actually I have applied ofor desk jobs repeatedly and the won’t hire me because I am a nurse with a degree and they don’t believe I won’t leave for a better paying job. I worked as a waitress for some 4 years after I had to quit nursing, And have attempted to go back to nursing jobs twice, but I was unablke to manage my meds, my eating ( I developed diabetes due to the transplant drugs) and my associated anemia and HTN. And again, you don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground, so STFU!

ooddballz February 6, 2013 at 11:42 am

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No crowley, you apparently did NOT read my post.
YOU, however are a SELF ADMITTED leech.
You have stated on numerous occasions you will not work to support “CORPORATE GREED”, which means you WILL NOT WORK.
You also admit you sponge off the system, and by your OWN ADMISSION “Scam the system TOO!”
I am done conversing with you, although I certainly do hope the welfare fraud division works quickly on your case. 3 to 5 without you would be a blessing.

jcrowley1985 February 6, 2013 at 11:47 am

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Yes, I will not work to support Corporate Greed, but I never said that I won’t work PERIOD.

Not so silent February 6, 2013 at 12:21 pm

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Greyhound bus lines is looking for people to suck farts out of bus seats…..pays good.

ooddballz February 6, 2013 at 12:36 pm

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He has plenty of practice sucking off the system.

sa_rose February 6, 2013 at 1:06 pm

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Nearly everything is eventually tracked to what you would consider a corporation, or uses corporate goods or something, so clearly you WON’T work. And working as a census taker had you working for the most corrupt corporation in the US; the government. I’ll bet if mommy and daddy quit supporting you, you would work at any job you could find. Other wise you would starve. And lose your internet connection. And not have money for shopping excursions on E bay. You are a lazy little bitch who uses the excuse of “corporate greed” to try and cover for you unwillingness to work for a living like the rest of us have. Your parents are enablers. THey should throw your ass out the door and tell you to fend for yourself.

Not so silent February 6, 2013 at 1:21 pm

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Did you see his latest post..He now, like Obama, has an excuse..Obama blames Bush, Crowley blames his kidney’s….Hell I had bad vision, kept me out of the military, when Lazer eye surgery came along, I was at the front of the line, only became a cop after I had the surgery, I paid for it myself and vision is still 20/20.. I was willing to do that so I could get the job I wanted.. apparently there is a tinkle problem holding crowley back…

Not so silent February 6, 2013 at 3:10 pm

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I thought of this afterwards, I guess Crowley does have a disability, he has an incurable case of Ron Paulsey.

CO2Insanity February 6, 2013 at 4:07 pm

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Funny, my youngest son has kidney problems, he works. I watched some guy on that TV show one night (the one where the boss goes incognito to see what the employees are up to), they had a guy on there who had kidney failure, was on dialysis and still managed to work 40 hours a week.

Not so silent February 6, 2013 at 4:16 pm

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Yea I have had kidney stones a couple times, I was off for a day or two mostly because I was medicated to the max, it’s kinda like giving birth to a broken bottle…anyway I went back to work, and carried on….

poppajoe49 February 6, 2013 at 4:37 pm

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OUCH!
I had kidney stones too. Peeing broken glass, razor blades, and battery acid is no fun!

PsychoDad February 6, 2013 at 1:43 pm

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Shut up, Creepycrawly.

Navyvet2 February 5, 2013 at 2:40 pm

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IMO Dingle Barry wants to take over the 401K’s (next IRA’s) because the union bosses he has been fellating have stolen all the money in their members retirement funds and the Chicago Asswipe has to bail them out or their idiot members might wake up to the fact that they have been screwed.
BTW. Wife and I have stopped contributing to IRA’s. Two reasons. One the DC Scumbags will probably take it. Two, the taxes now are most likely a hell of a lot less than they will be in a few years when we want to take it out.

Joe February 5, 2013 at 12:44 am

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“38% of Democrats, and 45% of non-gun owners, see the government as a threat.”

That’s because the government, all governments, are a threat. They’re a necessity, but a threat. That’s why the populace needs to be informed, vigilant, and armed. Unfortunately our populace is ignorant, careless, and scared.

sa_rose February 5, 2013 at 10:06 am

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Democracy requires an intelligent and hopefully well educated populace. America can no longer claim that the majority fall into that category. We have been around 236 years. How long was the Roman empire around before it collapsed? Theheyday of the Egyptian Pharoahs? The Persian empire? Maybe humans are incapable of sustaining anything for very long, no matter what type of government it is.

Alien February 5, 2013 at 12:00 pm

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You build the best government you can.. if you don’t, a warlord will come along and govern you. It is what it is..

andre53 February 6, 2013 at 3:36 am

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“Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn’t mean politics won’t take an interest in you.” – Pericles (430 BC)

deepthinker February 5, 2013 at 4:10 am

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Joe I would add one more adjective to describe our populace. It is lazy.