Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012. All the news that’s not fit to print. BTW, we know the map below is based on land areas, not actual live people, but isn’t it interesting the way all the Marxocrat voters are crowded into small enclaves?

2012 electoral map

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Alien November 10, 2012 at 9:06 am

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It is true city dwellers have differing concerns.. When Obama said “you didn’t build that”, he was thinking of 10 stories of streaming pipes and infrastructure under Manhattan, not 2 miles of driveway meandering up to a Wyoming ranch. Certainly an argument for States Rights there

sifi November 10, 2012 at 9:26 am

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When Obama said “you didn’t build that”, he was not thinking of or referring to 10 stories of streaming pipes and infrastructure under Manhattan. That was directed at business owners, the rich white man. Just more divisive rhetoric.

Alien November 10, 2012 at 9:29 am

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I used an extreme example of infrastructure, sure.. because of the map. But I took it to mean the building and securing of infrastructure that businesses require to survive. Otherwise… Somali Pirates, and all that, muck up your day

sifi November 10, 2012 at 9:43 am

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The money for all that infrastructure came from the taxes and bonds which the businesses pay the vast majority of in their local communities. Wealth grows a community not government.

Alien November 10, 2012 at 9:52 am

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Sure, but what business is going to sink is capital into an infrastructure that other business’ take advantage of? It never happened with the Internet, and they had decades to do it. It’s almost as if businesses would have to pool their resources to serve a common goal, through some elected body that might attempt to fairly allocate outlays.

sifi November 10, 2012 at 10:20 am

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Fairly is the key our and any other governing body tends to lose, especially when it gets too big and too powerful.

Bonfire of the Absurdities November 10, 2012 at 10:21 am

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The original builders of the NYC mass transit system were private companies. But let’s forget about that for a second…

The whole “you didn’t build that” crap from Obama and Cherokee Warren was a red herring. SURE, we need roads and brdiges and government may be the best source of those (do wish they had spent MORE of that effing stimulus money on those things.) But the Obamas and Warrens use those as cover for much other worthless crap that also gets heavily funded, much of which benefits their cronies. If we could get rid of THAT and keep the spending that actually benefits the public, we’d be much better off. But the Obamas and Warrens like to obliterate those distinctions, for their own benefit.

Alien November 11, 2012 at 11:08 am

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NYC had a bunch of above-ground private infrastructure that got crushed in 19th century storms.. when it was high time to take the train underground, the city raised bonds for it. NYC also owes a huge debt to the Erie Canal, which the state underwrote.

Choosing between public works that are useful and crap is always going to be a huge hassle, eating up valuable time, wasting money, and raising partisan ire. Anti-government rhetoric is often so vicious that it’s defenders feel it necessary to speak up for its very existence (that is, small gov types sound like anarchists). Reaganites wanted to Starve the Beast, but it seems they underestimated how much the Beast could borrow and print.

It’s the same thing with wars.. we have good wars and dumb wars, all entailing expense. Those who oppose all war or military action would leave us weak and unready for calamity.

I have no specific rejoinder, just ruminating

poppajoe49 November 10, 2012 at 10:06 am

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But, government creates jobs! They create jobs for bureaucrats. These bureaucrats pay taxes too! For every 100 bureaucrats that pay taxes, they can pay 14 other bureaucrats salary!
Talk about the law of diminishing returns.
The government needs to give the employment figures telling us how many of the new jobs Obama created are government jobs that we are paying for.

Alien November 10, 2012 at 10:09 am

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I’d be all for the stimulus of increasing our fighting forces by a million.. They aren’t wasted like bureaucracy, and we wouldn’t have guys doing 4 or 5 tours and putting huge strain on their families.

sifi November 10, 2012 at 10:15 am

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I’ll agree on that. The number one job of our government should be defense.

jcrowley1985 November 10, 2012 at 10:22 am

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poppajoe49 November 10, 2012 at 10:26 am

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Then explain why every war we have gotten into, it was a Democrat that put us there, up until Iraq.
I have no problem with us keeping to ourselves, but the world would be pretty screwed up if we didn’t intervene from time to time.

sifi November 10, 2012 at 10:33 am

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“I have no problem with us keeping to ourselves, but the world would be pretty screwed up if we didn’t intervene from time to time.”

I would rather fight over there then stand by and let it come here.

Paden November 10, 2012 at 1:42 pm

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Well, Clinton ignored the terrorists attacks and did nothing to defend america, if he had, 9/11 never would have happened.
It can be said that the Iraq Afghanistan wars are result of Clinton impotence.

You call the police AFTER you are robbed, they do nothing to prevent crime.
Ask Neville chamberlain how that pacifistic BS worked out for him…

jcrowley1985 November 10, 2012 at 1:52 pm

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poppajoe49 November 10, 2012 at 5:49 pm

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And you are too fucking stupid to understand.

RobertW November 10, 2012 at 8:39 pm

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did your mama have any children that think?
now i think about it, aren’t you the same pervert that skeeves on anime children?
I’ve an idea. why don’t you go to Texas and suck up to paul, i bet he could use another sycophant like you, and who knows, we might just get lucky and an armadillo would run over your noggin, you festering sore on a leprous boar-hog’s tit.

Not so silent November 10, 2012 at 8:43 pm

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Robert tell us how you Really feel about creepy crawley…:
;)

Alien November 10, 2012 at 8:58 pm

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Taken on its own merit, crowley’s statement is quite relevant to idea of million serviceman stimulus. As stimulus, they’d be most effective on base in U.S. territory, mainly as reserve for lengthy actions like Iraq or Afghanistan (as stated above, to reduce tours of duties). Their salaries would be directed into their communities and boost local economies. But they’d also help to secure our borders, and contribute, through rotation, to the work of the Army Corps of Engineers, or other infrastructure institutions and civil engineering groups. That means sea walls, earth works, power grid, etc. Roman soldiers built roads, after all. And we’ll be ready for a lot more when the world goes awry..

poppajoe49 November 10, 2012 at 10:16 am

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I’m all for that too. One bureaucrat salary is equal to about 6 enlisted salaries.

danybhoy November 10, 2012 at 5:16 pm

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Actually crowley, 9/11 was finishing off what the 93 truck bombing did’nt do. That was under Clinton, so no, Bush had little to do with it. Plus he was fighting to get his people confirmed by Congress & the Dems were a apin in the ass about it, & thanks to Jamie Gorelick, nobody shared information between law enforcement & intelligence. 9/11 had way more to do with Clinton then it did with Bush. You may be correct on a basic level, but not when everything is taken into account.

jcrowley1985 November 10, 2012 at 9:40 am

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poppajoe49 November 10, 2012 at 9:42 am

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NONE!!!

jcrowley1985 November 10, 2012 at 9:43 am

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poppajoe49 November 10, 2012 at 9:53 am

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If you consider intelligent decision making a problem, then you are the problem.

jcrowley1985 November 10, 2012 at 9:57 am

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poppajoe49 November 10, 2012 at 10:10 am

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No, I’m saying that the fact that none of the areas went to Ron Paul is proof of intelligent decision making.

hisham November 10, 2012 at 2:35 pm

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Don’t feed the trolls! TD,…MO.

danybhoy November 10, 2012 at 5:18 pm

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crowely, Only if you go to the doctor & get “fixed”. That would make sure your “intelligence” does’nt get passed on to the next generation.

Elrond Hubbard November 10, 2012 at 10:20 am

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Thumbs down, nitwit.

StrinaM November 10, 2012 at 9:46 am

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Small enclaves that managed to dictate hell to the rest of us!

sifi November 10, 2012 at 10:10 am

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Enclaves of liberals along the coast and minorities in the large cities. The delta region and border states have their enclaves of minorities also. The white liberal with the white-run political press made the big difference though.

KimmyQueen November 10, 2012 at 6:53 pm

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That is the problem for me. A serious serious problem.

Porky Al Jimmydad November 10, 2012 at 10:23 am

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Just wait until the CRASH comes and 70%-80% of the population is without food or shelter – without any means to obtain either. Those great expanses of Red will become the bread-basket for the cities, but the payment will be – “Give us what you have, or die.”

Many will choose death, other would rather destroy their production instead of giving it to the state – but Obama has a solution for that also. Nationalize the farmland and bring in experienced small farmers. The yields would be less, but there would still be acceptable yields for the cities. A source for experienced small farmers? Asia, principally China… America has done this sort of thing before – communities of Norwegians, Russians, Germans and Swedes in the Dakotas is one example.

jcrowley1985 November 10, 2012 at 10:29 am

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poppajoe49 November 10, 2012 at 10:37 am

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That’s the problem.

Not so silent November 10, 2012 at 12:02 pm

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I see Creepy Crawley is still here..Like a cold sore it never really goes away just comes back to irate you……

hisham November 10, 2012 at 2:38 pm

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He’s like a genital Herpes virus.

Not so silent November 10, 2012 at 3:41 pm

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I was gonna say that but thought I had been spewing colorful metaphors enough lately.

poppajoe49 November 10, 2012 at 5:46 pm

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Just not as much fun.

Elrond Hubbard November 10, 2012 at 12:50 pm

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Automatic thumbs down.

KimmyQueen November 10, 2012 at 6:54 pm

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You wasted your vote for Ron Paul. That is not a good thing. There is nothing for your to be proud of.

CO2Insanity November 10, 2012 at 7:01 pm

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He’s what happens when you play soccer and everyone gets a big fat participation trophy even if they lost all their games that year. He’s probably waiting every day for UPS to deliver his I voted for Ron Paul trophy.

KimmyQueen November 10, 2012 at 6:51 pm

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This is what I am talking about. I don’t understand this. Yes i understand that perhaps less people live in a lot of those red areas but I just don’t understand how there can be SO MUCH red and so little blue and he still vote the ENTIRE state. That is just so crazy to me… There is something wrong with this… I don’t know.

So what is the asnwer here? For conservatives and fiscal conservatives to go back to the cities and take over?

hisham November 11, 2012 at 6:42 am

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KQ, you and my wife have the same problem with the map. It’s based on representation (numbers of people who vote basically) and the blue areas have significantly larger population densities than the red areas. It sucks that the cities have control of the electoral college votes, but that’s the way of it right now. The libtards want us to abandon the electoral college for a direct vote system. If we fall for that BS, we’ll always be at the mercy of the commies. We need to get the other houses of government under control so we have more control of the presidency when we get an assclown like a Carter, Clinton, or a BHO. We need people in office who can and will stand up to bullies in the WH. We can’t ever afford to fall asleep again and we need to get a spine when the MSM croons to us about our children, elders, or sick. These lying f***s don’t give two shits about our children, air, water, resources, military, elders, sick…they care only about power, especially power over you! If we don’t gobsmack these self-righteous assclowns, people who represent 1/6th of the US population, they will destroy us and this country. It looks to me like they’re on a roll.

Dragonfish November 10, 2012 at 7:38 pm

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Nice map! Now I know where all of the communist enclaves are ( Yea, like I didn’t know before – sarc off (maybe)). Is Blue the new RED? To paraphrase Stalin – It’s not who votes that count, it’s who counts the votes…..

Jayhawk46 November 11, 2012 at 7:08 am

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I don’t think the framers could have possibly forseen the impact of Media Bias, Social Media and Communism on our electoral process. I have never been in favor of Popular Vote – I think that moves us away from being a Republic and more towards being a Democracy – but maybe we could at least have the electors represent the Congressional / Senatorial districts individually instead of the state as a whole. That way, the party of the President would reflect the composition of Congress, and there’d be less gridlock. I think Maine and Nebraska already do this…

poppajoe49 November 11, 2012 at 12:02 pm

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That would work for me.

Alien November 11, 2012 at 6:09 pm

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In case you haven’t seen all these, here are a few cartograms adjusted for population, electoral delegates, counties, purpling, etc. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/