Biden: Obama Considering ‘Executive Order’ to Deal With Guns From the comments on Youtube: “I watched a movie once about a society where only the military and police had guns. It was called Schindler’s List.” We couldn’t have said it any better ourselves. As goes the 2nd Amendment so goes the Constitution.

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Sidekick January 9, 2013 at 5:16 pm

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I called my Congressman this afternoon about this and the 14th Amendment grab regarding the debt. I’ve had enough of this dictatorship.

Kip Hooker January 9, 2013 at 5:19 pm

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I’m numb. I don’t know what to think about an executive branch that assumes it has this power.

Sidekick January 9, 2013 at 5:24 pm

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Kip, I believe we witnessed a bloodless coup. It is the counter-revolution that remains to be seen.

PsychoDad January 10, 2013 at 10:17 am

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I’m afraid you may be right….

Joe January 9, 2013 at 6:25 pm

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Any organization that files a lawsuit against this tyrant, I will immediately donate to. It may not be much, but if all these people buying guns, ammo, and magazines do the same, it will make a difference. If not, when they come to our homes to take them, well… we’ll see what happens.

poppajoe49 January 9, 2013 at 9:27 pm

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when they come to our homes to take them, well… we’ll see what happens.

I will voluntarily give them all my ammo, 1 bullet at a time, before they will get my guns.

flashingscotsman January 10, 2013 at 8:19 am

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I wonder when the criminal case will begin against B of A officials over their illegally denying services to a gun manufacturer.

KimmyQueen January 9, 2013 at 5:27 pm

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To deal with guns…. interesting.

If this dealing with guns means that they will magically relieve all guns from criminals, bad and crazy people I would understand it, but dealing with guns almost always means taking the guns from law abiding folks and once that happens we all become prey for the evil folks including a government that decides to be cruel and overbearing. Not good.

Sidekick January 9, 2013 at 5:32 pm

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To your point, I heard that 18 children have died from the flu over the past few weeks. Should we ban the flu, would that not save the children?

KimmyQueen January 9, 2013 at 5:42 pm

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Of course we should ban the flu or tax drug companies for not saving the lives of all who have unfortunately died. Blame the rich who are obviously hoarding all the flu vaccine. Things are bad and I am sorry that the children died in Sandy Hook, they were innocents, however banning guns outright is not the solution.

Fenster314 January 9, 2013 at 7:23 pm

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A better analogy would be back yard pools. 350 children under age 5 die in them each year. Where’s the outrage?

This media event is yet another sham designed as another attack on conservatives.

AZ Dude January 9, 2013 at 6:23 pm

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I’m almost 51 and will most likely be buying a gun for me and one for my wife. We’ve never owned one before. Now is the time.

Sidekick January 9, 2013 at 6:32 pm

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Do it quickly. I recommend the Glock 19. About $600 here in Florida. Easy to break down, accurate, 15 round magazine, and simple to operate. 9mm ammo is relatively cheap.

http://www.glock.com/english/glock19.htm

Joe January 9, 2013 at 6:53 pm

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I think you may just get a lot of recommendations from people who frequent this site. It may be a lot to take in, if you get them going (come on guys).

My recommendation, after you figure out what kind of gun you want, you and your wife should take a training course. Nothing tactical, just gun safety and proper shooting technique.

Oh, and join the NRA of course.

Karmaa January 10, 2013 at 5:42 am

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Join the NRA anyway! And then carry the card proudly! I can’t tell you how often I get surprised looks. I keep my card in the window that most people keep their drivers licenses, so every time I open my wallet, there it is.

AZ Dude January 10, 2013 at 7:10 am

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Thanks to all for the advice–I already thought about the gun safety training and NRA but it’s good to know others think the same way; I also have a brother-in-law who is ex-law enforcement and is a very good go-to source for information on what would be best. Appreciate you all.

flashingscotsman January 10, 2013 at 8:24 am

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I’m selling my Gen 1 Glock 17 to a collector tomorrow, buying a new Sig 9mm, and putting the difference into ammo.

DefHarryMelon January 10, 2013 at 9:12 am

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Your going to have money left from selling an old Glock after buying a SIG??? Someone’s got the price page open to the wrong item.

PsychoDad January 10, 2013 at 9:59 am

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Not necesselary. Here in Mass. only “Pre-ban” Glocks are available -except to cops of course- so they command a premium. Especially if they have some pre-ban “Hi-cap” mags to go with them.

PsychoDad January 10, 2013 at 10:15 am

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Just checked a couple of my local hardware stores. The one of ‘em doesn’t have any 17s, but has a bunch of used 22s for 500 and 550, another place has a Sig P250 new for $459. Yeah, the P229s are close to a grand even used, though.

The G22s are all ex-LE, that’s why there tend to be a lot of those.

flashingscotsman January 11, 2013 at 8:50 am

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I can get a new Sig 2022 in 9mm for $400. The guy buying the Glock has every other glock 17 there is, other than a Generation 1, and wants to complete his collection. Personally, I think he’s paying too much, $650, but I’m not going to complain. I’m on my way now to complete the transaction.

Oh, in California, it is a felony for me to sell him the original 17 round mags, or the handful of 30 round mags I have for the Glock. He gets a 10 round magazine.

poppajoe49 January 11, 2013 at 2:51 pm

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However, you could ship those mags to FL and see how much I can get you for them.

flashingscotsman January 11, 2013 at 9:59 pm

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I should check into Arizona’s laws on those. I’m going there in a couple weeks.

poppajoe49 January 11, 2013 at 10:03 pm

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There you go!
Or, you could always make a side trip to TX.

Jim Stewart January 10, 2013 at 10:29 am

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I used to be an NRA member but dropped them. The NRA will endorse Democrats provided the Demtard has a good gun record. But that same Demtard will vote for an Obama SCOTUS nominee! The NRA is blind to the bigger picture when it comes to their endorsements.

Joe January 9, 2013 at 7:09 pm

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“Obamacare Amendment Forbids Gun and Ammo Registration”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/09/Backfire-Obamacare-Forbids-Gun-and-Ammo-Registration

To bad they won’t follow the law they passed, yet we will all be subjugated to every other part of Obamacare. It’s called tyranny.

Ruben January 9, 2013 at 8:26 pm

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I wonder if those who’ve opposed me saying it in the past will say as I reiterate… Civil. War. Now.

Missile Command January 10, 2013 at 2:26 am

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Typically these folks propose the most outrageous things at first to set the tone of the discussion. Once people react to the initial over-the-top suggestions, they propose something less drastic and say they are being very reasonable about it. This is how they set the narrative and win the issue. Example we might see in the next few days: No, no, the president is not going to issue any executive orders (outrageous proposal). But we are strongly backing a law (Lefty “reasonable proposal”) where everyone is fingerprinted and registered who owns guns, and prohibitions on owning certain kinds of ammo, and….

The only way to defeat them is to strongly oppose ANY idea they offer on constitutional grounds and tell them if they want a change there is a process already in place – amend the constitution. Call them out and say unless they want to propose a new amendment they don’t have the courage of their convictions. The left would never get such an amendment through 2/4 of the state legislatures, so they try to get around the issue by bullying congress to chip away at the issue. Sadly, we do not have enough men of courage in Washington to stand up so. I heard McConnell in the senate say they first had to wait and see what the democrats propose. Being proactive and vocally opposed to any of this nonsense was not even being considered as an option.

Karmaa January 10, 2013 at 6:07 am

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THIS is why I support the NRA’s refusal to budge on anything. Look at what happened to smokers rights over the past 25 years. At the beginning, people said “they will never stop people from smoking at work”. Wrong. Then, they will never ban smoking in restaurants. Wrong. They will never ban smoking in BARS. Wrong. They will never ban smoking on the street, in your car, in your house… all of those have either been done, or has been tried in some ultra-liberal locations.

These people are willing to take how ever long it takes to get their own way. It’s like a freaking GAME to them. And they will chip, chip, chip away at something till they get what they want.

Take away AR-15s? Why not? No one needs them – they are a menace to society, and can’t be used for hunting, blah blah blah. But if the government gets away with THAT, they WILL come back for more. So, the NRA’s “stand your ground” position is exactly what we, as a free society, need. More than anything, to be honest, because all of those other bans and stupid decisions are annoying, but guns mean the difference between being a a citizen and being a slave.

flashingscotsman January 10, 2013 at 8:25 am

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The NRA’s refusal to budge?

Missile Command January 10, 2013 at 2:31 am

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I tried 3 times to post a link to Pravda, and excellent article supporting the 2nd Amendment. It will not post for some reason. There is a link on Drudge this morning.

poppajoe49 January 10, 2013 at 5:02 am

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Missile Command, you need to post without the link, and then edit the post to add the link. Then it will take.
It only happens sometimes that the link won’t take, but this method works every time.

DefHarryMelon January 10, 2013 at 9:51 am
Missile Command January 10, 2013 at 9:56 pm

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Thanks for the tips and assistance poppajoe49 & DefHarryMelon!

deepthinker January 10, 2013 at 3:41 am

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When the Marxist tries this move, the revolt will be on and it will be his damn fault.

The responsible American gun owner is not stupid. We all know what this move is about. It’s about disarming and then enslaving. If barry, joey and the rest on the life are genuine in their concerns for the lives of the innocent, them plan parenthood should be immediately defended and declared unconstitutional. Plan parenthood kills more innocent lives in a single day than any other type of murder. By its on reports, they do an abortion once every 94 seconds. That comes to a rounded number of 38 per hour. Multiply that by 24 and the number for a whole day is 912. So from that simple math equation plan parenthood qualifies as a mass murder. Most of its procedures are conducted in urban poor neighborhoods. Mean minorities and the poor.

Before anyone here starts to call me a cave man. There are times that an abortion must be performed. It’s sad but true. However, as a form of birth control NO WAY should it be for that. Condoms are sold every where today and even the ladies buy them now. Simple birth control and the abortion rate drops.

Now back to this Marxist move. If its done, the current Illinois occupant will be the second president from that state to have a civil war on his hands. The question will be. How many in the US Military will follow his unlawful orders? Will anyone from his UN buddies come and bail his ass out? Will his loony wood friends rally around him? My answer is HELL NO on all three.

xgman January 10, 2013 at 6:50 am

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flashingscotsman January 10, 2013 at 8:28 am

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TD,……………………………….MO.

sa_rose January 10, 2013 at 8:14 am

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The MSM (surprisingly) had a stroy last night about the FBI crime statistics on causes of homicides. Knives led thepack, followed by fist/feet, hammers and a couple of other weapons. Guns were at the bottom. only 2.something percent were caused by guns. You cannot legislate sanity. And insanity in its many frms, is the problem, not the guns. I have never seen or even heard of a gun getting out of its safe or locked drawer, load itself, and go on a shooting spree. Mind you, I am not saying it has never happened, but I haven’t been aware. Gun control laws do NOTHING to decrease gun violence, only prevent normal people from protection for themsleves, their homes and families, and just partcipation in a cool hobby. And I am tired of the current dictator bypassing Congress to advance his agenda. Where is the SCOTUS? Aren’t any of these executive orders considered unconstitutional?

poppajoe49 January 10, 2013 at 3:50 pm

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Rose, you brought up a point I was going to make.
Executive orders are the tool of dictators.
If Obama wants to continue being a dick, then that will be his legacy.

KimmyQueen January 10, 2013 at 11:08 am

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CO2Insanity January 10, 2013 at 11:16 am

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So what did Heston say in the MM movie? I’d never watch one personally.

KimmyQueen January 10, 2013 at 12:05 pm

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“Bowling for Columbine”

Again he was old, he probably had mental issues or senility and I understand that he probably was very civil rights minded when he was younger. Again I do want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I just can’t at least not just like that on the issue of race.

I do not support nor like Michael Moore so I am not defending MM in any way shape or form I am just going with Heston’s words here alone. MM is disgusting and idiotic. He is completely wrong on this issue. I agree with Charlton Heston on here for the most part as I did when he gave his speech all those years ago, it is just that part that I felt icky about and of course adding to that my own experience I just felt… you know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1iuEcu7O50 : Mark 4:43 to the part that I mean but the entire clip is worthwile. Overall, to state that because of minorities (on a great part) we are having these issues, it was the wrong thing to say and it made him look racist even if he wasn’t. I think that he knew he said the wrong thing, but again I wasn’t that much surprised that he went there. :-/

In the end though I have a heck of a lot more respect for Heston than MM.

CO2Insanity January 10, 2013 at 1:03 pm

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Heston died of Alzheimer’s. It probably was already affecting him.

KimmyQueen January 10, 2013 at 2:07 pm

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I dont know how long it takes for Alzheimers to set in and if he had it when I had my not so great experience (I dont know when he died but it was a long time before and before this movie), and again even though I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, he did not make me feel welcome and I felt quite uncomfortable there and that was without caring that I was in essence the only black person in a room full of over a dozen people. That didn’t bother me until he got there. So again I actually have a personal reference here, I am not talking out of my ass in any case because of that more than the BFC movie I did not see myself being a member of that groupand the fact that they lack leaders who are minorities was another reason as I got older.

CO2Insanity January 10, 2013 at 2:27 pm

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Well, even if he was prejudiced, you can’t hang that on all the NRA members any more than Jamie Foxx getting to kill all the white people comment about Django on SNL can be hung on all black people.

My step daughter knows very well what’s like to be the only black person in the room, she doesn’t let it bother her.

We have even had trouble with some of the local idiots, probably wannabe KKK members.

One neighbors care-taker harassed her for a couple of weeks on and off. We finally called the cops on her. (You should appreciate the irony that the white cop who took the report and dealt with her was married to a black woman). She got chewed for that one. Then she actually hit the next door neighbor when she got mad at him and got fired finally.

One nutcase at a restaurant one time sat outside the booth window and started making faces at us. When we all laughed she got PO’ed and left.

Yes even in California, land of multiculturalism, there’s plenty of wierdos.

KimmyQueen January 10, 2013 at 5:08 pm

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Well first off people need to calm down. It is not that deep, it is a personal opinion that is backed up by personal experience even though ideologically speaking I understand and agree with the NRA if not completely s someone stated above their support of liberals who do everything else but the second amendment wrong. I find that weird.

Second, I am not hanging anything on the NRA members. I didn’t say that I thought all NRA members were like him. I just stating simply that his behavior did not make me excited to promptly join the group. Had his behavior been different I would have. I am not stupid and I have many times stated the same thing that you are saying.

He was the leader at the time, he was the face of the organization. Since he left it, I have considered joining however like I said TWICE already and it seems you sidestepped that, it lacks minority and Black leaders (that I know of at this point in time), what I mean by that it lacks unfortunately people that all people can identify with or that can look up to. I have a problem with that just as I have a problem with organizations like ACORN and other liberal organizations that lack seriously Black and minority leadership. I find that to be bad. However, it is possible they have minority leadership at this point in time. If/when the NRA has leadership people that is more diverse I think it would elevate its status and definetly get out of the this is for old white males republican thing which is a bad look.

LIKE I ALSO SAID, I wasn’t bother being the only Black person in the room until he came in and looked me up and down with what I felt was disdain and disgust and completely ignored me as he spoke with other people in the considerably medium size room. His body language was all wrong and I felt like I was doing something wrong by being there. Even others in my group felt it and told me if I was okay. I have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially since he died and was sick and what not, thinking that perhaps that he was surprised but that is not the feeling that I had at the time and it doesn’t explain why he didn’t speak to me or even say hi to me and shake my hand as he was doing the others in the room. It was highly uncomfortable. I have been the only person of color and of different cultrue or country in many rooms throughout my life and I have been fine with it, so I definetly don’t need to be lectured on that by anyone. I have also been discriminated by all kinds of reasons and all kinds of people here, abroad and online, that is not the point.

The point is that th eman made me uncomfortable, I believed at the time it was racial on his part, I was not turned on to the NRA because of that. As I grew older I saw that it lacked minority leadership and even though I do excuse the fact that he was sick and old at the time, I wasn’t surprised (even though I seriously dislike MM) that Heston veered towards the minorities being a big reason for gun violence in this country. Now we do know the stats on gun violence and so on, but as a representative still at the time, he could have said something differently or presented his case differently, but again he gets excused because he was old and sick and he didn’t know Moore’s agenda.

CO2Insanity January 10, 2013 at 5:40 pm

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Whoopie Goldberg is a member, as is James Earl Jones, Karl Malone, Alan West and Killer Mike.

FYI my step daughter tried to get me into the local black businessman’s club. They were hot to trot until they found out I was white.

Regarding Heston. I didn’t know him, perhaps he was prejudiced. You were there, not me. I was only considering there may be another reason. Could just be he was a fathead like most other celebrities and thought his poop didn’t smell. I don’t know. Could be all of the above.

deepthinker January 10, 2013 at 5:55 pm

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No problem from this area at all KQ and you make a very good point. Being a member it is time for one of us to put it in front of the members and leadership to change that.

poppajoe49 January 10, 2013 at 3:58 pm

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So, try the Second Amendment Foundation.
http://www.saf.org

poppajoe49 January 10, 2013 at 4:04 pm
KimmyQueen January 10, 2013 at 5:09 pm

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I will look into those thank you Poppa! I was sure they had to be alternatives.

flashingscotsman January 11, 2013 at 10:09 pm

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I went with NAGR.

Not so silent January 10, 2013 at 12:00 pm

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Got a few minutes, check this link to see why everything the gooberment says about gun control is bullshit…Interesting reading and factual, unlike President Obullshit and his merry band of socialists.

http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/6.1/gun_facts_6_1_screen.pdf

Progressive Hemrrhoid January 10, 2013 at 2:16 pm

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“Dear Leader” might want to think about leaving the country if he signs any EO’s banning guns.

Not so silent January 10, 2013 at 5:44 pm

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This is what I got as an E-mail from the NRA just a few minutes ago…

Statement From the NRA Regarding Today’s
White House Task Force Meeting

Fairfax, Va. – The National Rifle Association of America is made up of over 4 million moms and dads, daughters and sons, who are involved in the national conversation about how to prevent a tragedy like Newtown from ever happening again. We attended today’s White House meeting to discuss how to keep our children safe and were prepared to have a meaningful conversation about school safety, mental health issues, the marketing of violence to our kids and the collapse of federal prosecutions of violent criminals.

We were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment. While claiming that no policy proposals would be “prejudged,” this Task Force spent most of its time on proposed restrictions on lawful firearms owners – honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans. It is unfortunate that this Administration continues to insist on pushing failed solutions to our nation’s most pressing problems. We will not allow law-abiding gun owners to be blamed for the acts of criminals and madmen. Instead, we will now take our commitment and meaningful contributions to members of congress of both parties who are interested in having an honest conversation about what works – and what does not.