Bill Cosby weighs in on Trayvon Martin case: Blames the gun. We empathize with Mr. Cosby. We really do. He seems like a man that cares for the community and wants it to stand up and be successful. But we ask that the man stop his campaign against the right to bear arms. Whether Zimmerman was defending himself or is a cold blooded killer should have no bearing on our ability to protect ourselves in the very likely event that Leonard Parker isn’t going to be around to do it for us.

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Paden April 8, 2012 at 4:13 pm

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“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity”. Sigmund Freud

KimmyQueen April 8, 2012 at 5:13 pm

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Ha? Leonard Part 6? WTH?! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL So weird LOLOLOL hilarious I don’t know what that is, but that is just so funny looking. Anyway… I like guns and there aint nobody that is going to stop me, however one must be responsible in it use. He can have his opinions but he is putting the emphasis on the wrong thing.

sa_rose April 8, 2012 at 10:22 pm

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I wish EVERYONE would quit weighing in on the Trevon case until it has been investigated, evidence reviewed by a grand jury and a trial completed. NONE of us know anything but what select media bites have been produced. Sit back and wait before jumping off a cliff trying to reach an unreachable conclusion!

KimmyQueen April 9, 2012 at 11:13 am

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I think that we as private citizens can have our opinions, that is why I respect that Bill can have his opinion, I just think or opine that he has the wrong emphasis. I believed before the trial and even after the trial that O.J. Simpson was guilty and so did many people. I believed before the investigation and the trial that Casey Anthony murdered her child either by accident and covered it up or because she wanted to and then covered it up. In both cases, they went free but I still believe what I believe regardless of the media and everything else. I believe Drew Peterson murdered his two wives and that man that exploded himself and his two children, I believe he murdered his wife as well and there was no complete investigation nor trial in that case. We are human beings and we have opinions it happens.

The first thing that I abhor here is the MEDIA being complicit in butchering the facts or driving one point of view solely. The media should have a higher standards than individuals in situations like this. The second thing I abhor is the President and race mongers to get involved. The President should have kept his mouth shut and the race mongers are not helping.

sa_rose April 9, 2012 at 10:28 pm

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Oh I agree with you in both the examples you gave. And if something of that nature occurred, then the speeches and protests would make sense and be appropriate. But we aren’t there yet. Everyone has rushed to judgment (on BOTH sides) 0with out knowing much of anything about it!

flashingscotsman April 11, 2012 at 8:33 am

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Question. If it had been Martin who had the gun, and Zimmerman who died, would Cosby have gotten involved?

RobertW April 11, 2012 at 8:34 am

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answer:
nope.

KimmyQueen April 11, 2012 at 10:52 am

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No.

sa_rose April 11, 2012 at 1:07 pm

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Of course not. No political hay in that!

flashingscotsman April 11, 2012 at 8:43 pm

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Then again, Obama, Sharpton, Jackson, and the NBP wouldn’t have gotten involved either.

Wright April 9, 2012 at 8:58 am

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Being a southern and a hunter, I have been around guns all my life. My dad bought my first rifle at 10. I taught both my daughters at a very young age how to shoot starting with a 22 rifle and then working their way up. My oldest at 21 shot a S&W 500/50 cal. hand gun. The largest made. Even a firearms instructor-friend of mine had not shot that size and was impressed. That same year my youngest at 18 shot a 44 mag. Hollywood idiots should use their mouth for acting only. Every time they open their mouths, “stupid” comes out.

HEP-T April 9, 2012 at 10:08 am

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NO! I turn in my defensive weapons and I am un-armed when the black panthers start their race war.
Besides People can make new guns, buy them smuggled across the border or take them from those who legally possess them.
No, I’ll keep my defensive weapons Bill. I cannot afford the private body guards you have.

Notsosilent April 9, 2012 at 10:29 am

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Just a thought, Maybe if the Goobermint concentrated on career criminals who STEAL guns from law abiding people, they might cut down on crime, but it is always the guns fault, kinda like its Bush’s fault for everything that’s wrong with the country. Liberals have to blame some inanimate object for their problems, which is akin to saying cars kill polar bears, suv’s cause tornadoes, and on and on. The key here is it’s always someone else’s or Something else’s fault for all the woes in the world, when in actuality liberals are the cause of 99 percent (love that) of the bad shit that goes on. So Bill get some balls, and start calling it like it is, it’s not the gun, it’s the moron/criminal/shitbag holding the gun that’s the problem, Stop coddling them, start smacking the shit out of them, and stop hiding behind an object or person when you play the blame game, man up. I know that’s asking a lot of any liberal since most of them prefer to blame someone else for their own stupidity, but until we call them on it each and EVERY time, the stuuuuupid in this country and gonna keep right on believing the bullshit that flows from the mouth of liberals. Bill is an good entertainer, say him in concert once, funny guy, but like the majority of comedians/actors/musicians/artists, when they are not performing, they sound like they left their brain at home in a box when they start talking.

CO2Insanity April 9, 2012 at 10:55 am

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Bill needs a good home invasion or mugging, then his philosophy will differ.

Kip Hooker April 9, 2012 at 11:02 am

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Sadly he had that very thing a number of years ago when his son was gunned down by a thug. Had his kid owned a firearm and been trained with it then the whole situation might have turned out differently. And even if it hadn’t at least there would have been a fighting chance. Cosby should be reminded of the famous Heinlein quote: “An armed society is a polite society.”

KimmyQueen April 9, 2012 at 11:19 am

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Actually his son died due to mugging a few years ago. I think that may be a reason for this opinion of his. It goes either way, his son could have saved his life if he had a weapon, he could have still lost it. I think that the emphasis on the weapon is the wrong one, because a weapon in the hands of a responsible citizen is a vastly different situation than a weapon in the hands of a criminal.

Kip Hooker April 9, 2012 at 11:34 am

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I agree that he could still very easily have lost it. But if he had a gun this situation would have been that of Russian Roulette as opposed to that of facing a firing squad.

sa_rose April 9, 2012 at 10:30 pm

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And outlawing guns will not stop ciminals having guns in the first place. They are already illegal in several places, but there is still gun violence, as well as established criminals repeatedly accessing all kinds of guns.

KimmyQueen April 10, 2012 at 5:30 am

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Guns allowed in the hands of responsible citizens means less crime. It is a statistical fact. It is also a statistical fact that when a criminal act happens, if the next person with a weapon is a responsible and abled bodied citizen, the crime statistically is undercut or it is ended.

When guns are taken away from responsible citizens then obviously there are more crime, because criminals know that citizens may not be able to defend themselves or others.

As far as the Martin issue though, the problem with this individual case is that Martin was not coming out of anyone’s home, he did not come out of Zimmerman’s home. He had no visible “loot” and he was not involved in any damage of private nor state property. If indeed he was doing something VISIBLY illegal Zimmerman would have said so in the 911 call and it would have made sense for Zimmerman to have gotten involved right then and there instead of following Martin IN EXPECTATION that Martin would eventually do something criminal. That is the problem with this case and that is what needs to be investigated. I seems that Zimmerman was following Martin because he thought or expected that Martin would do something illegal, not because Martin did or was actually doing something illegal at the time. That is a big problem that needs to be resolved.

Notsosilent April 10, 2012 at 8:22 am

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AS always Kimmy, you are right on the money.

sa_rose April 10, 2012 at 1:42 pm

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Exactly. He never should have been following the kid to begin with. It was outside his duty as a Neighborhood wWtch Captain, and he was told by the police NOT to follow the kid when he first called in. And in a neighborhood like that, if some guy was following me around, I might be a little suspicious that he meant me harm. So maybe Trevon DID attack. Time will tell if we will ever get this knot of misinformation untied and the iccocent justified, the criminal punished.

RobertW April 10, 2012 at 1:59 pm

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point of order, at no time did the cops tell z NOT to follow.
as a citizen of the U.S. z was within his rights. he saw a suspicious person or perhaps a person acting suspiciously and followed. The event occurred upon an Apartment property, and likely would NOT have occurred if there had been a civil curfew in place.

Apart from this: bill, whose comedy I’ve enjoyed since a mere lad, need not weigh in on the matter because he’s an ACTOR, and therefore any statement he makes IRL is suspect, his honorary doctorate notwithstanding.

drb April 10, 2012 at 2:25 pm

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point of order, at no time did the cops tell z NOT to follow.

Quite right. it was not the police it was the 911 operator.

as a citizen of the U.S. z was within his rights. he saw a suspicious person or perhaps a person acting suspiciously and followed.

Yes he had that right. Everyone has the right to make stupid choices. And as rose pointed out, that is not typically part of neighborhood watch protocols…it is simply what Zimmerman chose to do.

sa_rose April 10, 2012 at 3:50 pm

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My apologies. In my city 911 operators ARE police, hence the confusion. And I maintain that even if Zimmerman had a legitimate fear that something criminal was up, his job was to contact police, not confront the alleged perpetrator. Theoretically, that cuts down on the messes like this case.

RobertW April 10, 2012 at 3:54 pm

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cop or not, the 911 operator didn’t tell z NOT to follow.

stupid choice? had i lived in a community that’d been subject to break-ins, I doubt me not that I would have been watchful of a stranger roaming the neighborhood at any time but especially at night.

drb April 10, 2012 at 6:53 pm

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cop or not, the 911 operator didn’t tell z NOT to follow.

Down to hair splitting are we? Z said he was going to follow M and the 911 operator said “that isn’t what we need you to do.” That is in essence telling him “don’t be a dumbass and don’t follow.” And I bet if Z had it to do all over again he would have kept his butt right where he was and not followed.

stupid choice? had i lived in a community that’d been subject to break-ins, I doubt me not that I would have been watchful of a stranger roaming the neighborhood at any time but especially at night

Yes…stupid choice. Watch…yes, follow when he isn’t doing anything but walking and talking on the phone, no.

RobertW April 10, 2012 at 7:27 pm

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hair splitting? I think not. there’s a HUGE difference between a suggestion and an order.

in essence the op was saying “You’re there, but I would be criminally liable if i told you to follow and keep tabs on this fellow until a patrol could get there in a half hour or more and something amiss were to occur. Conversely, I’d be overstepping my authority to tell you, citizen, that you are NOT allowed to exercise your rights to walk where you please so long as it is not private property.”
Stupid? Dost thou not recall the circumstances revolving about the Boston Strangler?

All evil requires to win, is for good men to do nothing.

M had NO reason to assault z. none whatsoever. in my opinion, considering the differences in physical stature, and the likelihood that z’s pistol was concealed m behaved in manner typical to a common thug.
regardless, for anybody to make this situation out to be racially motivated is balderdash. The fact Z. has not been arrested further leads me to believe that no criminal offense on z’s part is supported by the evidence so far discovered.
Furthermore; stupidity in itself is NOT a legal crime, but I do not believe z acted stupidly nor in an irresponsible manner.

that’s my view.

drb April 10, 2012 at 7:45 pm

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in essence the op was saying “You’re there, but I would be criminally liable if i told you to follow and keep tabs on this fellow until a patrol could get there in a half hour or more and something amiss were to occur. Conversely, I’d be overstepping my authority to tell you, citizen, that you are NOT allowed to exercise your rights to walk where you please so long as it is not private property.”

Robert, you know I love you with all my heart but that is a load of bunk.

Stupid? Dost thou not recall the circumstances revolving about the Boston Strangler?

Still stupid and will continue to be stupid when you act without knowing what you are getting into and without thinking.

M had NO reason to assault z. none whatsoever.

Z had NO reason to follow M. none what-so-ever.

Z followed because (according to his own words on the 911 tapes) “he’s getting away.” Really? He’s getting away? away from what exactly? What was he doing that he needed to get away from? According to z (on the tapes) he was walking, talking on the phone, and wearing a hoodie in the rain. Gee, I think I would try to “get away” from the rain too. (sugar melts in the rain ;) )

oh and I never said it was an order…I said it was the proper advice.

sa_rose April 10, 2012 at 8:10 pm

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No neighborhood watch persion has ever been told it is appropriate to follow a suspected perpetrator. In fact, for their own safety they are encouraged NOT to follow or confront. Robert you are mny bud, but really, you are trying the case based on the media reports. We don’t know what really went on. Did this kid start “casing” places, trying doors, etc? Did Mr. Zimmerman step out with a drawn gun and try to stop him “getting away?” Did Martin attack fearing for his OWN life from a stranger following him? A number of scenarios could be concocted based on the little info we have. I say everyone needs to “simmer down now” and wait for the case to at least be investigated! EVERYONE is talking out their asses right now, since the only 2 people who were there are not available for equal comment.

KimmyQueen April 11, 2012 at 10:59 am

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Watchful… Yes… Following?

If he was part of a NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH, where were the NEIGHBORHOOD? That is to say was the NW just HIM or were there others? If there were others why not call them and say: “Such and such a person is in the neighborhood, as he may or may not pass your house please update me and/or the police as to what he is doing or where he is going so the police know where to find him, when they finally get here.” Advise not to follow to avoid needless confrontation as the operator adviced him and back off. Get the neighborhood involved and have many eyes on him. He took too much upon himself far from his own property and on a hunch (which ended up being erroneous) that the boy MIGHT do something just becuase he was there and someething else happened on ANOTHER day.