Today we ran the story of Michelle Obama serving risotto at the soup kitchen down the street from the White House. She was surrounded by poor people frantically snapping photos with their cell phones.
If you’re anything like us (and we understand completely if you don’t want to be) you wondered, how can the poor afford cell phones, fancy ones with cameras? The monthly bills on these things can eat you alive. Is there some sort of free government cell phone service we didn’t know about?
Safelink Wireless Free Government Cell Phones
We were tipped off to the Safelink Wireless website. But please be warned that if you visit this site you are likely to walk away pissed off. Here’s what it says:
“SafeLink Wireless is a government supported program that provides a free cell phone and airtime each month for income-eligible customers.”
Hello? Hello? Can anyone hear us complaining about this outrageous abuse?
“Lifeline Assistance is part of a program that was created by the government to provide discounted or free telephone service to income-eligible consumers. To help bring you this important benefit, SafeLink Wireless is proud to offer Lifeline Service. Through our Lifeline Service you will receive FREE cellular service, a FREE cell phone, and FREE Minutes every month! SafeLink Wireless Service does not cost anything – there are no contracts, no recurring fees and no monthly charges.”
“Any Minutes you do not use will roll-over. Features such as caller ID, call waiting and voicemail are all also included with your service. If you need additional Minutes, you can buy TracFone Airtime Cards at any TracFone retailer Walmart, Walgreens, Family Dollar, etc). SafeLink Airtime Cards will be available soon.”
“Your exact benefits, including the number of free Minutes you will receive, depend on the state you live in.”
Free cell phone from Safelink Wireless: how to qualify
“The process to qualify for Lifeline Service depends on the State you live in. In general, you may qualify if…
- You already participate in other State or Federal assistance program such as Federal Public Housing Assistance, Food Stamps and Medicaid. OR
- Your total household income is at or below 135% of the poverty guidelines set by your State and/or the Federal Government. AND
- No one in your household currently receives Lifeline Service through another phone carrier.
- You have a valid United States Postal Address. In order for us to ship you your free phone you must live at a residence that can receive mail from the US Post Office. Sorry, but P.O. Boxes cannot be accepted.
In addition to meeting the guidelines above you will also be required to provide proof of your participation in an assistance program, or proof of your income level.
Un-freakin-believable. Outrageous. Shocking.
The way we read it, this Safelink Wireless program gives you a free cell phone, free monthly service, and free minutes. You qualify even if you make 35% more than the designated “poverty” level or if you’re already getting additional freebies from the government. And we see nothing that indicates you have to be a legal resident of the United States to qualify.
The site is also available in Spanish, leading to the not-too-unreasonable conclusion that a significant percentage of the free cell phones applicants conceivably could be, may be, might be undocumented aliens.
And, for God’s sake, we don’t even want to know how many of those filling out a Safelink application are currently stiffing a bank on a mortgage they never really qualified for in the first place.
We think we’re going to have a stroke. Would someone please call 911 on their free cell phone?
Note: Now Assurance Wireless (Virgin) and ReachOut Wireless (Nexus) are in the game. They plus other minor players account for 8 million government phones in circulation.
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What makes you so sure she has internet- can u see her smartass joe? Maybe she is at the library- using someone elses ineternet– quit being so dang ignorant i have read alot of your posts here… u sound like a person in need of psycological evaluation…for depression or something of the sort. Not all Black & White genious.
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Funniest damn comment ever made on IHTM.
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you cant look for a job if the job cant call u duh ppl lol think!
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When cell phones were not available, we had landlines and had access to those. When you have employers calling you for interviews and information, relying on others who may not be reliable or available or at work themselves, is not a very effective way to communicate. When cellphones were not available to you, employers expected a delay in correspondence. They do not any longer. If you had an ounce of sense, maybe you would have a speck of compassion and would want to help the people of this country to become employed instead of comparing what you were able to do 10 years or 20 years ago. Life is different now and employers have hundreds of applicants for one decent job. If you have to call them back tomorrow, you lose! You sound like a miserable person…so if you haven’t anything nice to say, don’t say it.
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OMG, I gave you a TU you boned headed B-Word. Where in the hell did all of you f***ing trolls come from? Did that little shit creepycrawly invite you to f***ing SPAM
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hisham, why are you even replying to a post that is almost a year old?
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Yeah seriously this thread just had the worst kind of people in here.
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OMG I gave you a f***ing thumbs up! You f***ing mindless tax-sucking, excuse-making, marxist-loving, slatternly trollop. Where in the Hell did all of you f***ing trolls come from? Did our resident denizen of the under-bridge give you a conference call on his very own Obama-phone, or something? We have great compassion for those who actually deserve compassion, but you seem to think that we should have those same kinds of feelings for those of you who have made a life long habit of making poor decisions and making the rest of us clean up your f***ing messes! There comes a point, you f***ing twit, when adults need to put the hammer down and it’s never fun for the frivolous minded, tax-eating, scum-sucking, butt-kissing, sycophants and lay-abouts that intentionally make it hard for the rest of us. The reason life is different now is because idiots like you voted for a piece of shit, lying, non-american, chicago politician like You Know Who simply because he ran a slick campaign add or two. You low information voters have only yourselves to blame for the shit you find yourselves in. Elections have consequences and you f***ing idiots still want to blame the shit this lying, thieving bunch of criminal reprobates have done to this country on Bush! Wake up and smell the treason you f***ing Jezabelle!
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these phones are provided to give people access to employers calling o set up interviews, housing programs to fulfill applications to move people from transitional housing to long term housing, 911 services for abused women and children, etc, etc all of the stuff that the majority of us do not have to deal with. you are all just slighted because you are not getting your hand out. well, have your spouse leave you, get laid off from your job and fall from grace. you will be thankful for these programs then and not until then can you appreciate that these programs are there. stop hating and dont comment until you have been there.
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What they are designed for and what they are being USED for are two different things.
That’s the problem with liberal ideas – they take what COULD be a good or compassionate idea, and then provide ZERO oversight and lax rules, so as to be “fair” to the underprivileged – and it is not 15 minutes before these poor underprivileged people figure out how to take advantage of it. Meanwhile the lib gets warm, fuzzy feelings for their own compassion, and the rest of us gt screwed to the wall paying for it.
Smarter move: offer job-seekers a room in the local unemployment office with computers, phones, faxes, etc. Give job seekers a voice mail account through the unemployment office. That way, they have what they need, and they still have someone “watching” to make sure they are only using our generosity for what it is intended.
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I click through with a very rare comment on this thread and what do I see? My puny thought executed by a pro↑ *sigh*
Anybody know of a good critical writing 101 course online?
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Give welfare recipients a room on a farm, allowing them to grow their own food, and work hard every day to earn their benefits. After a hard day’s work, they can retire to the job seeking room, if they so desire.
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I’m sure that this person in the video is using her six, (or more, she’s not sure), for “mployers calling o set up interviews, housing programs to fulfill applications to move people from transitional housing to long term housing, 911 services for abused women and children”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjAjAvxDkfk&feature=related
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It is necessary to cut out the fraud and waste in the program. There are always those who make it difficult for everyone else. You are right, because you are on top today, doesn’t mean you won’t need help sometime in your life. I don’t want to think what it would be like, not to be able to pay my bills! Scary.
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Been there, dug myself out without a government cell phone.
People are spoiled, and the entitlement culture tells them they deserve more, even though they do nothing to earn it. I’m sick of this shit.
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I remember the days, when I had to get a bunch of change and go to a pay phone. It was terrible, I would run out of change. When I was out of work, I started freelance writing. When my husband couldn’t get a job, he started his own business, with a chainsaw and a piece of old rope!
Now he has the right equipment, saddles and clips bull ropes and such! I love him for his heart and his hustle. He’s a good ole country boy that will find a way to earn a living! If he can’t get tree work, he will clean gutters…he always finds a way!
You have to admit, everyone is not built that way. My Dad had two jobs as long as I could remember. The only time he was out of work was when he had an operation. I respect a man or woman that will do whatever they need to do to care for their family!
I have learned that you will always have poor people, mentally ill, uneducated, learning disabled, etc. I can not say what makes a person give up on life. Meth addiction, mental, sexual abuse as a child, no education. What makes a person say life isn’t worth trying? They government wastes so much money on things we don’t even know about. Pocketing the money, stupid wars, bribes, and all. They would rather have us put our attention on the poor, than on the government who is the greatest crooks.
Taking our taxes and subsidizing oil companies…Oil Companies! Billions trying to rebuild others nations. What about building this nation. Don’t get me started on our crooked government. That’s why so many people have not plans of getting rid of their guns. You can’t trust them. They have always lied to us!
So don’t worry about a few million of free phones; run down those Billions they are throwing away on other things. Like the big bank laundering drug money and the government turning their heads. The poor people aren’t the enemy, take a good look at the government.
You see poppajoe9, it is like the prostitute and the john…if there was nobody looking to buy sex, there wouldn’t be any prostitutes! Remove the John and the industry dies. If the government didn’t created these programs, there would be no body getting a free phone. So is it the people’s fault, or the government’s?
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“When my husband couldn’t get a job, he started his own business, with a chainsaw and a piece of old rope!”
What’s it like being married to MacGyver?
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MacGyver! That’s just what he was! LOL. It was scary. I was afraid he would get hurt. He’s being it for for 15 years and is always safe and has the proper gear.
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Both. The people are lazy and greedy, and the government feeds off of that.
The politicians want to stay in power, so they cater to the lazy and low info voter, who wants free shit.
It’s a chicken and egg deal.
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we don’t have to think as long as smart people like you can do it for us.
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I hope the job you’re trying for doesn’t value literacy.
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Well, all those years ago when I would apply for a job, I first send a card, thanking the employer for the interview and told them I was very interested in the job! My next step was, to pick up my land line phone, and make a call to inquire on the status of my application. That’s how we did things in the big city!
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My point exactly!
I didn’t have even a land line, so I went back and “made a pest of myself” so they knew I wanted the job!
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It took, an hour or more on the train and a bus to get anywhere. I didn’t have a car at all. The phone was the most reasonable option. Today everything is done on the computer. Things have changed and it is more impersonal. Going in person, if you can is a good move! Do that once a week and they get so tired of seeing your they give you a job, just to get rid of you!
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You don’t have a right to a cell phone paid for by someone else. Period.
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You’re a pissant. You’ve never owned gold jn your pathetic life. In fact, I doubt you own anything.
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A built-in, guilt-free life long excuse for failure Kick, why he’ll never try. Ever. We should all be so lucky.
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Imagine if you will (heh), BOOM, it just happened, now just wtf are you prepared for and what on earth could you possibly do bright and early Monday morning to go out and actually earn any of it?
Exactly, absolutely nothing, you’d still be a major drain on society and it’s “new & improved magic real” money.
[edit] like I said, guilt-free life-long excuse, soybean just admitted it, useless in his 20s, worthless all his life. And it’ll probably be another 60 or 70 years.
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Kick, don’t doubt he’s never owned gold, but he does own some things. The poop stained underwear and semen crusted sweat socks his mommy washes for him, and the video games he bought from Ebay with our tax dollars.
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I guess I’ll find out when/if it happens.
So, what you’re telling us is that you are just making another excuse to not put forth an effort.
Get over your stupid BS and do something with your life! Your parents may be supportive to your face, but in private, they’re embarrassed and disappointed in you.
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Most of us here used pay phones when the they went up to a dime from being a nickel. Most of us remember no such thing as a cell phone existing, the closest thing to it being on Dick Tracy’s wrist. The grumble here is not about the poor people that actually appreciate the free services afforded by the taxpayers and who would work to pull themselves up out of the needful condition they are in. Rather, the people who feel they have a right to all things they need being paid for by the government – these people don’t know what a taxpayer is – because they are here and that is all. There are far too many that believe the government owes them money, food, strippers, crack, phones, video games, internet, porn, shoes and everything else they see on their free TV. Since there are too many ‘rich’ people that oppress the poor, the poor like them, keeping them underpaid and underfoot, the ‘rich’ ought to pay for their stuff. If a ‘rich’ person doesn’t want to pay them $54.63 US plus benefits to watch the ‘rich’ persons cat or car, then they deserve to have their needs met. Never mind all the scratch the drug dealers, burglars and pimps I’m talking about take without paying taxes. That’s their money, not the government’s. All the government has to do is print money and then there is more money for the government to pay those who the ‘rich’ won’t. It is really quite simple.
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That was a particularly satisfying turd.
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WOW 53 TD’s That is hilarious! I didn’t even know.
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so now you’re no longer rich.
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And…? How is that our problem?
Ugh… another one…
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Go to Wal Mart and buy another one.
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Better them than you.
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You see, John, if I go to WalMart, or in my case, Verizon, and get a new phone, I have to give them money. That’s how they stay in business. But they give me a phone, and service. That’s called a trade, or transaction.
The money I give you is taken from me by force, by government, and you don’t give me a damn thing in return.
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Than, not then, whistle.
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Not even close. Idiot.
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He thinks we’re for corporate bailouts. I guess reading is beyond his abilities.
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Of course, our resident troll is too ignorant to understand, that when it comes to corporate greed, there’s little difference between the working people buying phones from a corporation, and the government buying phones from a corporation, other than the forcible aspect of it.
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you really are a necromancer of the highest order, Flash
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Crowley’s brainless post strikes again…
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To make a long story short, TD,……………………MO.
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Man, your obsession with anal rape is just unseemly.
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Lol Flash, you have a gay admirer!
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Actually, I know a number of gay men that would love to spend some time up my kilt. Sadly, for them, it’s not an option. Thanks for sharing your fantasies with us, though.
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Gollum, this is especially for you, honey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNTxr2NJHa0
You just climb up into that tree with your little friends and keep on singing.
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Wow! I had a serious crush on Shari Lewis when I was a little tyke, and I hadn’t even seen the nude pics of her.
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Me too! But I didn’t know there were nude pics! (Hint Hint)
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Oh, PJ. You’re such a,…..guy.
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POPPA!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9ztpqVAOT1qawyivo1_500.jpg
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LMAO drb.
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I swear that’s us sometimes. Then other times it’s kinda like this…
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ArmymIEBego/SFpfUu9X-ZI/AAAAAAAADJ8/2H9TiUd857g/s400/cartoon.jpg
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Poppa, this one’s for you, from the event I did with Vlad a couple weeks ago.
http://www.theflashingscotsman.com/Events/Myth-Masque/23518163_tCMhrz#!i=1901818779&k=Rj7HHhR&lb=1&s=X2
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True dat drb.
Flash, that is one very kissable belly!
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Sometimes, when I’m working with my horses, I just can’t believe people pay me to do it.
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So buy another one, twit! I can’t believe I dropped a TU on your post!
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Not bloody likely, moron. There were no cellphones during Reagan’s Presidency.
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Your article above is VERY misleading. SAFELINK is VERY limited and is meant to provide minimal service for elderly and shut in folks as well as job seekers who are currently unemployed. I am a social worker and I help clients apply for these and they have been a lifesaver for some. First of all the free phone is not a fancy phone with a camera! None of the phones have cameras and are very basic phones. Many of them are used and restored phones. None of them are unlimited either. They get a limited number of minutes (at the most 260 local minutes anytime, no long distance, no texting and no data plan and certainly no rollover!). The other plan allows 120 minutes per month and does allow for texting at one text equals one minute. It does allow for US calls only. The last plan is only 67 minutes and allows texting at 1 text equal to one minute and US calls only and then you get rollover minutes if you don’t use all 67 minutes! Just doesn’t happen. So, your lavish explanation is seriously flawed and it is not nice to pick on folks who need this service. There is no money spent on this program by govt either. It is all private funding. The govt approves it and allows the carrier to use govt eligibility standards for those living in poverty, ie. SSI, SNAP, TANF, LIHEAP or a person can send in paystubs to verify income and be verified for assistance that way. Do not lie like this…it is not socialism any more than your driving your big SUV down the freeway is. It is really unethical and immoral to give out this kind of rhetoric and that ticks me off as someone who serves the folks most vulnerable in society. It might just be your grandmother or disabled uncle who needs this service some day! Until you have spent a day in their shoes, zip it!!!
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Is that all you got for Nancy Poppajoe? Nancy explains the program using things like ………… facts and specific examples and all you can come back with is calling her a name? Really, really weak!!!
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Come on John. I’ve repeatedly asked you to explain this “truth” to me. I’ve repeatedly requested that you give specifics on the machinations of these things. I’ve requested the history of these “truths” in the academic sense. I’ve wanted to know who discovered them, or who formulated them. How these persons where influenced. By what events, men, time periods or other works. I’ve wanted to know what your sources were, so that I could peruse them for myself -considering the possibility that I already haven’t.
I’ve also wanted to know where these “truths” have been bore out by practice. Or exposed by accidents in the real world and not just in minds.
I’ve wanted to know how these “truths” are reconciled with the existence of other truths that they seem in opposition with.
But each time I’ve asked for some of the above you’ve clammed up and moved on. So I think it really is time that you put up or shut up.
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TD,……..MO. Do it for the children.
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For poppa…U really r a troll.i have a safe link and nancy is correct.i have one not because I am a freeloader but because I am a single mother of 3 and out of work….why am I single and out of work ?certainly not because I am lazy but because after being married to a miserable pig (kinda like u) for 10 years he decided it would be fun to come in the door with his big 357 and blow half my face and all of my left hand into oblivion leaving me permantly disabled.i use my my right hand for dialing on my free phone and giving men like u the finger
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? I’d given up reading these long ago but this caught my eye and I clicked without thinking. And I’m still confused after reading it. OH! Except for one thing, n!n poppa (couldn’t figure how to do a thumb in keyboardese, you get the point, HAH! a pun)
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The shooting is a new twist here on the ole Safelink thread.
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ok wow.
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Well, 3 things.
1, she obviously didn’t read any of my other posts.
2, if her story is true, I feel bad for her.
3, if it’s not true, she really sucks for making up something like that.
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Nobody reads the parts where we talk about wanting to help those who need it.
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Because it doesn’t fit their agenda.
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I actually did go back and read your post and aside from the names u sometimes call people u r right and kinda funny too.however I don’t understand how folks get these “freebies”.when I applied for gov.assistance after I was shot all they offered me was a phone and to take my children off my hands…I immediately withdrew any and all applications for assistance ,took the phone …placed an ad in the paper and waited for the phone to
ring.and the few times some of my utilities were cut I was afraid to ask for fear they would take my children due to my incompetence so I kept quite and kept it movin.my ex may have made my left hand FUBAR but not my brain …after several months of physical therapy I did regain about 75% use of my hand and when I am not cleaning someone else’s floors I am a full time student….I graduate this January and I suppose it was your tax dollars that paid for my education because I only paid one semester and for that I give thanks.once I hit the workforce with an education I shouldn’t have any problems keeping the utilities on …..I hope.and someday maybe I can afford to have someone do my floors.
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You see, your situation is different from these others. My complaint is the people that have no intention of improving their lot other than through government freebies. Like that woman I posted the video of that had 24 safelink phones.
I congratulate you for your initiative in making your life better through hard work and drive.
You are the type of person we all hope is getting the help we pay for.
Good luck in the future.
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Well remacc, I can see that you have major issues with men. I can understand that your “disability/handicap” et al., sets you apart from other “takers” but you need to understand something that these government programs are doing to you and to the fabric of this country, they are enslaving you to the wheelchair between your ears. These programs feed on your fears, by design. The people who foist these social engineering programs on us know, that given time, we all may come crawling to the altar of ‘gubmint gimmees’ for some reason or another. My father, may God have mercy on his soul, was an ardent, life-long communist. In other words, he didn’t work a day in his life. His father was an US representative (a communist) who had essentially given my father and his brother over to a relative (not a communist) to raise while he went off to DC to help bring about the NEW WORLD ORDER…The Brave New World we are witnessing. If you like what you see, if it coincides with your world view, if what socialism has brought to America has made it a better, more prosperous, safer place to live…then you have my sympathies and my pity. I don’t think you want my pity or my sympathy. I feel you haven’t been dealt a fair hand in life, but then, neither have any of the rest of us, but we aren’t standing in line to get free ‘shit’ because we think we deserve it just because somebody did us wrong, or somebody got more toys than us. I loved my dad…I hated and continue to hate everything he stood for. Communism, socialism, national-socialism are not the answer to any problem; if anything, they exascerbate problems that already exist and cause a plethora of problems down the road. Don’t let your ex have the power he seeks over you by allowing the trauma he caused you to become an overbearing crutch and shackles. As an aside: my father, the communist, beat me so hard, when I was four years old, that I had to be hospitalized and for this he went to jail. I and my little sister were promptly adopted by my first cousin, as a result, and we were raised by libtards instead of commies…not a lot of difference. When I finally accepted the cards I was dealt in life and took on the role of being responsible for my own life, deeds, acts, words, in other words, I decided to grow up and stop waiting for other people to give my stuff, my life took a decided turn to the right. I don’t blame other people or events for my problems in life and I don’t forget God for my successes. Change your outlook and your life will turn around. It won’t happen all at once, but it will happen. Good Luck and God Bless!
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honestly i was really harsh with poppa i think because of some of the name callin in his comments and because u r right (i do have issuses with men)i do not think of the incident leaving me handicap tho yes i could have used some help from the gov.but all i got was sent to a batterd womens shelter with my children and after a week (i couldnt stand it)i went back to the home i shared with my husband that i couldnt afford anymore because obviously he went to prision.in the last year my water has been cut twice…couldnt pay the bill.lthe electricty once…couldnt pay thye bill..and the only help i did get was that crummy phone because due to his incareation my (now ex-husband)cant fork out childsupport.so i get nothing in this state without them being able to garnish his wages.what a joke right?i do make ends meet now and that damn phone is why so i can be reached when someone needs their house cleand…i started a small lil side business by posting an ad in the paper for maid service.sorry so harsh poppa.
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I know it doesn’t sound like much, but we’re praying for you, remacc. You deserve better days. We all understand when things set a person off — we’re a pretty good bunch (with the exception of the whiney-assed cheeto-boy, who’s never had a hard day in his life, but whines like the world’s coming to an end over the injustices and calumnies his idol Ron Paul has suffered).
Be well, and God bless you.
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You don’t get out much, do you? I swore never again but this is just too rich. You do realize the comments you’re ranting at are a year old, right? And they’ve been subsidizing cable for years, where have you been?
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Sometimes people don’t know what to say out their mouth!! Thank you for your wisdom and knowledge of Safelink. The program is a wonderful idea and I sure do appreciate the program. It surely helped me when I couldn’t afford to pay a monthly cell/home bill. It really comes in handy for those that are on a fixed income and struggle with what bill they will miss paying so they can pay their phone bill…..
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Ummm, freedom of speech does not refer to free from monetary charge you dumb cow.
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This has always been, and still is, the thread that draws the libtards out. It’s about free stuff, so they are drawn to it like moths to a bare light bulb. Then they just bounce their empty little heads off of it until they grow tired and head to the cupboard for more Cheetos.
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you think you are.
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First of all search all the paychecks the govt. pays out to employees who do what?and while your at it check out all the senator governor and any other high position holding employees paychecks and exspenditures logs before you get all concerned cause some poor citizen with some sort of disability be it mental or physical or just to uneducated for what ever reason has a cheap ass phone to keep in touch with this techno world we live in.maybe you would rather give more of your tax dollars so some politician can vacation wheever wherever and all their friends where do you think they get their payrolls ? you think it grows on trees Id like to have 25% of what any white house politician gets for pay FROM TAXES to do what ? do they work any harder for that money than some blue coller or general laboror thats why most benifite recipiants are disabled at early ages cause they have to do all the grunt work and hard labor that all the rick take for granted and god forbid the poor need help then you want to degrade them and make them feel less than human for asking for a friggin phone to reach drs, or loved ones , all you self centered selfish dogooders need to open your eyes an see the whole picture and not just where the media who works to please the rich tells you.
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dafuq?
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I have no idea either, PD. O.o
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Fools. They’re a dime a dozen.
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Damn it feels good to upset the libtards enough to get my comment buried! Thank you all for validating my opinion.
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I know! I have many buried comments here.
Makes me feel good.
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And no, libraries do NOT give you free access to phones, printers, or internet for that matter.
You just proved you have never been in a public library.
They all have free computer use with internet access, they just block the porn sites.
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That’s probably what he was looking for. Of course, maybe his library is racist, and won’t let a white man use them.
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Oh, GTFO out with your cheesy racebaiting. Stuff it up your lilywhite redneck cracker paleface arse.
“I need a cell phone.”
Why? And more importantly, why do you think you need one so badly that I should pay for it?
Funny, you seem to have a computer and internet access. Ever hear of Skype?
Now go pull a newspaper out of the trash and open up the “Help Wanted” section. You’ll find it all the towards the back.
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The bum down the road needs a bottle of Thunderbird. Does that give him the right to steal from me to get it?
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Not sure if anyone has posted this or not, but THIS is what happens when “free stuff” is handed out: http://tinyurl.com/766gj65
Lazy government “workers” who can’t be bothered to check on eligibility, greedy contractors who will give people 50 phones, because they get reimbursed enormous amounts by the government, and entitled people who, to be fair, probably never even realize that they are cheating and stealing. (It’s hard to understand that when you have ZERO understanding of finances, business and government as the public schools these people attend make absolutely sure that they wont.)
It’s not hard to see that there is a huge problem, but the layers are so deep that it’s complicated to fix.
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Karmaa, if they understood finances, business, etc, they would probably have a good job and not need the free phone.
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I agree, it is devastating (to all hard working tax payers) to think that people could just lie around and accept assistance. But in my case, (and their are many more like me, who have been dealt a bad hand), these types of things are a blessing. I have people around me that feel angry with me because I accept government assistance, I am 6th generation German/Lebanon/Irish American, and I am very thankful for all the assistance received and proud that I may soon be able to stand on my own two feet. I intend to pay it forward, I have big dreams of opening a orphanage and shelter. All I have to say is life is too short to be angry, use your arguments and be precise, I’m not so sure we should be soo angry about this, there are soo many things in the world right now to be angry about.
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But,…….can’t I be angry about ALL the things I should be angry about, instead of picking and choosing?
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Joza – I don’t think that MOST people are angry with people like you. That’s how this mess started out in the first place. Most people are humane, and feel that taking care of people who CAN’T take care of themselves is something that we need to do. The elderly, the ill, the disabled and the very young should not be suffering, when through no fault of their own, they cannot full provide for themselves.
However, our government quickly realized that by encouraging people who ARE able to work to sit on their butts and just take tax money, they could create an entire class of people who are addicted to the dole, and will continue to vote for the people who are handing out the freebies. That is NOT you. You sound like the kind of person that we are all happy to help (hence the thumbs up on your post).
We need to get rid of this underclass of people. We can only get rid of them by moving them forward. By actually taking control of their education and seeing that they learn A) that they can, and B) how to stand on their own two feet like you are actually anxious to do.
It’s the old difference between a hand-up and a hand-out.
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For this thread to still fire up the base of ill-informed dooks that come here to blather on about our (IHTMers) hate of poor people is disturbing. For the record I post here, right under Karmaa, Penn Jillette’s take on charity and forced redistribution:
“It’s amazing to me how many people think that voting to have the government give poor people money is compassion. Helping poor and suffering people yourself is compassion. Voting for our government to use guns to give money to help poor and suffering people is immoral self-righteous bullying laziness.
“People need to be fed, medicated, educated, clothed and sheltered. If we’re compassionate we’ll help them, but you get no moral credit for forcing people to do what you think is right. There is great joy in helping people, but no joy in doing it at gunpoint.”
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And another thing! See ↑above↑.
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Penn Jillette is a very smart man.
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Yes, very, I’d pick a bone with him on a point or two(detailsdetails), and since i don’t think he imbibes would love to make him and you some magic iced-tea and pick your brains.
He urinates people off because he’s secure enough to say exactly what he believes and doesn’t have to worry anymore if it affects his ‘career’. Pretty honest if you ask me.
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“We need to get rid of this underclass of people. We can only get rid of them by moving them forward. you posters ( & karma) should all be so lucky! Wishful thinking that you will ever accomplish being the good little teacher to the animal. Shame on you for the way you speak, as if you are not part of the “underclass”. “By actually taking control of their education and seeing that they learn A) that they can, and B) how to stand on their own two feet”. you commie!
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I don’t know who gets the extra perks(i.e. camera phones) but these phones are simple..no camera or internet free options.
Well, how about looking at this and then tell me that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjAjAvxDkfk
You must be doing something wrong, because this woman has a couple of dozen phones, and they’re touchscreen, Blackberry, etc.
Don’t sit there and tell me your story of woe while I’m paying for your phone.
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GEEZ, you’re freaking nuts!
How can you compare using a coupon that a retailer, or restaurant sends you to drum up business, to getting a free phone that we have no choice but to pay for it for you?
Quit feeling sorry for yourself and get a real job or start a business, and see just what we have to deal with!
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The discount from cable would be a good analogy, but only if it were paid for by all the other cable users, forcibly, and ended up making millions for a billionaire in Mexico.
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a concealed carry permit is much more likely to SAVE THEIR LIFE!
YOU MAKE the case, these phones promote and promulgate the “victim” mindset the govt. wants EVERYBODY to submit to. When folks are allowed to stand on their own two feet and face down bullies and thugs THEN we’ll have a responsible society.
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And, if you would bother to read the intro at the top of the page, it refers people who actually NEED this service to the correct page to get it. Now, can we get on with badmouthing those who DON’T need it, yet get as many of them as they want?
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Well apparently Ms Gloria Know it all, you missed the news report of the woman that has over 25 of these phones, including Blackberries, touchscreen phones, etc.
No cameras? I call BULLSHIT!
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Lying troll.
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He’s rich, like soil is rich. Full of fertilizer!
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LOL!
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Speaking of fertilizer………….
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Hey jack, you ought to have read thought the thread more closely. The only people that posters seem to have a problem with are the professional scammers not those who need TEMPORARY help. That being said, you now should get in your overpriced Jeep and get back to the hot warehouse. Some deadbeat needs his welfare check and you whining like a little girl here isn’t going to help put EBT acquired food on his table,
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OK, up till the last sentence, I thought you might be legit. Though I did start to wonder about halfway through, when every line sounded like a pre-printed leftie talking points memo.
For the record, no one here has any problem helping the down-and-out while they are lifting themselves back up. Helping. Not supporting them for eternity in the style that we, hard-working people, have become accustomed to (and can no long afford ourselves because of the leeches).
Go try your stupid BS elsewhere. Have a nice day.
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Trust me tool boy, you are no better than any of us! We all worked for everything we have. The people you are better than are the lifelong freeloaders that have no intention of making their own way in the world like you say you did, rather, they want to see what government freebie they can get next, that you and we are paying for.
There used to be a great plan to take care of those that are temporarily down and out, but then along came FDR and his plan for the government to help everyone, and we now have the mess we are in today.
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Whiner. Go tell your sob story to somebody who hasn’t been through much worse.
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Or someone that gives a shit.
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I hear they have some empty chairs at the Democratic National Convention. They’ll probably send a bus for you.
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Should be there any minute. It’ll be a short bus.
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Says “BFI” on the side.
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I call shenanigans! If you have internet access then I seriously doubt that you could not figure out a way to get help for your flooding building. No, based on your last paragraph, I am guessing that you live in your mama’s basement and are a Cheetos’s-eating-troll.
Here’s the part that gives you away, Troll: “most of the more affluent folks in this country want the poor to simply drop dead or vanish”. The affluent people in this country are the ones who WANT to give people a hand. they WANT to make jobs for people who can’t get a job. They are the ones who give to charity, who donate their time and money to help people who need help.
Only a miserable little libtard troll would believe that the affluent are heartless cruel people. Plus, if you were REALLY living in public housing, I guaran-damn-tee you that one of your EIGHT neighbors would have a phone – whether taxpayers paid for it or not!
Run along – I think your little friends at kos are looking for you. There are so few of you now, they get really lonely when you escape.
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I am nobody’s pawn – I am the QUEEN, little boy. Now go run along and play quietly and stop interrupting the grownups.
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Petnut is john/jcrowley1985. What a loser!
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If Petnut had a brain in his/her head, when the flooding was going on, they wouldn’t have been looking for someone with a free phone, they would have gone outside and turned the damn water off. How difficult is this?
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Drones need to be instructed.
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TD,………..MO.
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drones are programmed, i take it you’re one?
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Did you run out of faux cheetos?
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Oh yeah – and if the building was “between onsite managers again” someone who was REALLY living the way you say you are would have contacted the owner and offered to take the job!
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How is it that all these people with no phone have internet?
BTW jackass, I had a flood in my house on 6-24, it was called Hurricane Debbie, and even if I could call someone, they couldn’t have turned off the water!
BTW is everyone in your building too stupid to turn off a water shutoff valve? They are not allowed to be in a locked room, they have to be accessable.
The unemployment office location has no bearing on your situation, since all states have unemployment claims online now, and as we can see, you have internet and a computer, so no excuses there.
Truck driver school is a benefit that is available at no cost to you through many state training programs. Check it out on the unemployment website.
Pay phones went away when the $10/month cell phone plan arrived.
The affluent people that want the poor to drop dead are the Hollyweirdos that don’t want to know you if you can’t afford a ticket to their latest sex or blood fest, and the musicians that want upwards of $100 a ticket for their concerts.
Go troll somewhere else, we have no use for stupid people here.
Same for you john.
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Is The Thread That Won’t Die going to be the scary movie this Halloween?
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We’re never going to run out of tax eating, parasitic morons who have access to the Internet.
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Phone Zombies
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Yes, they only get a few minutes. Each. That’s why the welfare queen needed 30 of them.
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AAHaHAHAHAaaaaaaa, excuse me, BRB, BWAAAhahahahahaha, Sorry. *snork*, Sorry, be right back.
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Come to the dark side, get a job!
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It’s really crazy. We’re approaching 5,000 comments on this story and it remains one of our most read stories day after day after day.
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It’s funny, sometimes wanna smack you upside the head and say ” what are you thinking!”, others give you a hug for the public service\education.
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i wouldn’t go so far as a hug, but maybe i can refer Ed. to a good gastroenterologist IF those comments cause a blockage.
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Good name for someone that can’t be honest about land lines.
BTW, I got another offer for a free phone in the mail today, 5th time they sent me one.
I sent it back with F*** YOU scrawled across it with a Sharpie.
Next time you want to try this crap, try it with someone that hasn’t seen the youtube video of the woman with 24 of these phones.
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Ahhhh, the good ol’ free government cell phone scam story. Just when you think it’s gone and forgotten, it pops back up again. 4827 comments. Looks like we’re going to make 5000 before too long. I don’t know if that’s something to be proud of or ashamed of (much like the grammar in the preceding sentence).
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…and speaking of someone whose grammar wears the army boots that she got as payment…
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“cheep phone lines for the poor”
Oh great. Now poor chickens are getting free phones.
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I love adding to my ‘turds” count!
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I’ll tell you what, if you don’t want to be insulted, stop posting stupid crap on this thread.
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We can just call this one Grammar Boy.
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So where in the Constitution does it say the federal government has the authority to take money from me and give it to someone else? I have never read the Need Clause in the Constitution. Have you? The takers in the is country are swamping the economy and you do not know who is scamming any more than I do. Another question: How did I, as a tax payer, become indebted to welfare recipients? Think about that for a minute.
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Looking at your words, how do you steal something back? Are you saying that “Corporate Greed” had gold and then it was taken from it and then they got it back? Perhaps you just communicate poorly because you are an imbecile with nothing to say?
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I wonder what the police would do if I called and said I’m reporting myself, I stole my own property from myself, then I stole it back. 5150 time no doubt.
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Is 5150 that funny thing they do with that large flashlight with all the ‘D’ cells in it? ’cause that’s what needs to land upside crawley’s head.
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I have one of those flashlights, wanna borrow it?
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I have a 3 cell and a 4 cell. Latter for bigger problems.
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5 cell here! Solves all problems!
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When you get up to 5 cell it’s .45 Auto time in my book.
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Uhm, history lesson here, dumbass. It wasn’t your corporate paymasters that took the real money. It was your buddy FDR.
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“If Corporate Greed didn’t steal their gold back in 1964, they wouldn’t need to ask for assistance…”
You still don’t get it. Even if that hadn’t happened, the only gold a lot of the people we talk about here would see would look like this,”http://tinyurl.com/d8oe93w, and they would still be demanding assistance. So now what?
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What about box wine?
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I can turn wine into gold. Beer works better, though.
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What does this mean? I’m missing the 1964 occurrence. If you want to talk about corporate greed, why not discuss Hospital Billing?
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So what about all these people that get like 10 of these phones? You’re full of shit. Withheld must stand for what they did with your brain.
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Judging by the comments it appears even the libtards in SF don’t like the idea.
http://tinyurl.com/azzyhu9
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Ah, yes, the dreaded PeeWee Herman argument. If you don’t like it, call it stupid. Hard for anyone under seven to defend against. Now that editor has been shown the error of his ways by some random idiot calling him names, what’s your next plan for defending the internet from wrong opinions, oh Mighty KreepInTheKY?
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What a charming young lady you are.
We’ve been over this about a thousand times, but let me go over it again for you. Yes, cell phones with cameras are available. Read the rest of this thread before you spout off.
You say you don’t use the phone for anything but emergency calls for your baby. Then you say 250 minutes per month isn’t enough. Seems to me that should be plenty of minutes to take care of those “emergencies”.
Furthermore … ahhhh, screw it. You’re a moron and it’s not worth my time to explain all this to you.
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Isn’t it peculiar how 250 minutes is “too small” for emergencies? I remember having a work phone (should use more minutes than a phone dedicated to “emergency calls”) and getting told that I could use any left over minutes up to the full 120 minutes a month for personal calls — and never ever in 12 years running over.
Seems that 20 minutes/month should cover 99% of emergencies — where you call 911, tell them to get their ass over here. Maybe the definition of emergency is a little looser than that.
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911 calls are free anyway. https://www.safelinkwireless.com/safelink/terms_conditions
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You don’t even need an activated cell phone to call 911, ANY cell phone, even a prepaid phone with no minutes, can call 911.
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If you can find out what rock he’s hiding under…send him this way. It’s deer season so the guns are cleaned and loaded!
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Second Amendment rights are not to be sneezed at. I exercise mine every day via my CCF permit–15 years and counting.
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Second Amendment rights are not to be sneezed at. I exercise mine every day via my CCF permit–15 years and counting–and I just renewed for another 7!
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I don’t need no stinking permit. In my state I can carry up front, in the open, without one. As long as it is NOT concealed it is legal. Which is better? A criminal checking you out as a possible victim then seeing a .45 on your hip and thinking “Oh shit! I’ll leave this one alone!”? Or getting his butt shot because he didn’t see your weapon and attacked you?
I just read what I typed and it made me think about something. If a slimeball sees me, and my pistol, then leaves me alone he may go after someone else not as prepared. So, would I be protecting the public better if I had a concealed weapon and let him come for me so I could shoot his ass? Or should I worry about myself and whatever happens right in front of me instead?
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I wish I could give you more than one thumbs up, Teri.
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Teri. you have such a purty smile…. it worries me though you put it out there like it’s incontrovertible not that there’s anything wrong with that.. but dang……….. if i had a smile like that i reckon i’d be chewin’ the libs to death with them teeth.
unfortunately my older sisters knocked out my upper fronts with a belt buckle when i was but a lad of 10. and my mom didn’t give a care so all i got was some crappy ole plastic yella caps til i got busted in the mouth again from a softball….. it wasnt’ so soft…..
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Same here in Los Angeles, Whiskeyriver. We can carry, except it can’t be loaded, can’t have a clip in it, oh, yeah, and it can’t be a gun.
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There’s a lot of discussion about that question on sites that are more gun-specific, Whiskey. I’ve read a lot about it, and talked with a lot of people, and come to the conclusion that we should keep the criminals guessing. Let them look at EVERYONE as if they might be armed. Keep the fear in the criminals. But then again, I don’t believe law-abiding citizens should have to have a permit for concealed carry, either.
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The only place it is illegal to carry a weapon in New Mexico is any place that serves or sells alcohol and gooberment buildings like courthouses, schools, post offices and the Capitol building, what we call the RoundOuthouse here.
You know where most of the crazys shoot people around here? In bars, schools, post offices, courthouses, and various other gooberment buildings. So much for uninforcable laws that kooks and criminals pay no attention to anyway.
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We recently had a guns for FREE OBAMA PHONE trade in! I used it to get 5 phones!!
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DEAR JJJRO — You SIR are an idiot!! This is about FREE OBAMA CELL PHONES!! Geesh, what a jackwagon.
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Damn technicalities.
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Are you that dumb junior? The gun could protect you forever and the free phones will be useless within the next year!
Just kidding! I get your sarcasm and the scary thing is there may be some out there that think you are serious.
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now you can use your free cell phones to call someone with a gun when yer butt is under fire .
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JJJRO II – YOU sir, are the idiot. There is no such thing as FREE if the government is giving it away. The TAX-PAYERS are paying for it, so it’s not FREE! And it would be much cheaper to give people “free” landlines than cellphones. But it wouldn’t be as much fun, would it?
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I already got my phone. Are trying to force me to take another one? I guess I could let one of my illegal gardeners use it for a while. (insert sarcasm symbol here)
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Dorothy, what you say is absolutely true. But didn’t you even see JJRO’s sarcasm go by, as it flew completely over your head?
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look u idiot i am latin and disabled and this safelink cell has helped me so much once i was stranded on the side of the road and had a epi attack and thank god for the safelink cell i was able to contact 911 .and i have payed my taxes for 15 years i worked as a family support agent and do to a drunk driver i am disabled know and have children so i say thank god for the free cell phone because living on disability is not easy
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JJJRO II – YOU sir, are the idiot. There is no such thing as FREE if the government is giving it away. The TAX-PAYERS are paying for it, so it’s not FREE! And it would be much cheaper to give people “free” landlines than cellphones.
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Not true. First, landlines require a security deposit. (That can get very expensive if the person has to move around, as poor people often do.) Second, they aren’t necessarily cheaper to use and maintain. Third, they’re of limited use in a day and age where prospective employers expect to be able to reach a job applicant wherever s/he is, and whatever s/he’s doing.
Some of you far righters seem to be stuck in a mid-20th century time warp. Owning a basic cell phone is no more “fun” than owning a snow shovel or a toilet brush. It’s simply a convenience, that’s all. You get so eaten up with jealousy at the idea of someone else getting some assistance that you can’t see the situation for what it is.
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Ooh! Ooh! Another liberal thumbs down! I better hide! They’re after me! I wonder what I said wrong?
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I remember when making $150,000.00 a year was pretty comfortable living. Not so much any more. Thanks Obama!
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PMS: I was trained by the best professionals known to man. Both grandfathers, several uncles and my father. Serving 5 years in the military added skill to the teachings of my youth.
As a little aside here, I also train and certify citizens across the state for their conceal carry permits. Responsibility and accountability is the number one priority, just as I learned as a boy.
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I looked back at the posts above, and I assume you are referring to either myself, or Whiskey. Either way, you are certainly a moron. Neither he or I has any desire to use a gun on anyone. We both know the kind of things a person goes through after shooting someone, even if it IS in self-defense. It is ALWAYS a last resort, not something you just jump into without thinking. But then, you’re a liberal, aren’t you? Unable to understand thought.
Would you care to quote whatever it was that seemed like someone daring anybody to attack us?
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PSD, you are a moron. What part of Whiskey’s post makes you think he’s daring anyone to do anything? Please be specific.
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WhiskeyRiver: I am glad to know that you were well trained in weaponry as a young boy and continued that training as an adult. I’m also glad to know that you train and certify others. Please accept my apologies for the remarks I made about you carrying a gun. It may have been due to my mood at the time, or just due to the fact that interpretation is sometimes lost in this forum of communication and to me, on that particular day, you sounded like a “rootin’ tootin’ Yosemite Sam” type. And that’s not even a bad thing I guess; I LIKE Yosemite Sam.
I’m sure we won’t agree on the phone issue so I won’t go into that, but I did want to apologize for my comments.
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WhiskeyRiver: I am glad to know that you have been well trained in weaponry since you were a young boy and have continued into adulthood. I am also glad to know that you actually train and certify others. Please accept my apology for the remarks I made about your carrying a gun. I’m not sure if it was the mood I was in on that particular day, or just the fact that interpretation is often skewered when communicating in this forum. So, that day, your comments came across to me being made by a “rootin’ tootin’ Yosemite Sam” type. And that can’t be all bad, now that I think of it. I LIKE Yosemite Sam. At any rate, my comments were out of line and I hope you accept my apology. I’m sure we won’t ever agree on the phone issue, but I’m not bringing that up again. Thanks for your time.
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The order of comments on this page got ALL out of whack. I didn’t see your apology to Whiskey until I scrolled way down the page from the origninal comments. So, PSD, since you have apologized and shown that you DO understand something of the subject, I now apologize for my post calling you an idiot.
If anyone wants to look up the crime statistics involving CCW holders, they will see that it is NOT a bunch of cowboys, looking for a fight. That permit carries a lot of responsibility. I just wish they were available for the common citizen in California.
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Why would anyone give a thumbs down to a post which apologizes for saying some things I regret? Unless it was WhiskeyRiver letting me know that he doesn’t accept my apology, I fail to see what it has to do with anyone else at all.
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Sorry it took me so long to get back, I work for a living so I can pay for my own cell phone. Apology accepted, I don’t do the thumbs up or down thing very often so it was not me.
Like RHG said, those of us that know are the ones that are most responsible when it comes to firearm safety. I teach recruits, those that want to be a county deputy or city cop, and I try to scare the hell out of them. The badge on your shirt, the gun on your hip, does not make you “the man”. It’s the man inside you that makes you “the man”.
I can’t make it any more simple than that. And nobody who has “been there, done that” can either.
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i have a feeling it might be some of the haters that are now mad because you apologized…. Which is an extremely stupid reason. I thumbed you up to keep you from being hidden.
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Are you saying Californians, American citizens, cannot legally carry a holstered weapon in plain sight? Are you saying American citizens living in the great state of California cannot obtain a CCW permit?
Sorry bubba, I have no sympathy for you. Ya’ll keep electing Nancy P. Loosley and BaaBaa WaaWaa Boxer types to office so you are getting what you voted for.
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Copy and paste this post for future reference that you have, indeed, apologized on this site. Might come in handy in the future!
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Hey, Whiskey. I’m only one man, and I only vote once per election. Unlike some others. So I do what I can to stop the Pelosi/Boxer types, but there’s just too many liberal fools in the big cities for me to have much effect.
And it’s sad, but true. You CAN carry a weapon in the open in CA, as long as it’s not loaded. Kinda defeats the purpose, doesn’t it? And you WILL be harassed by the police for doing it. The legislature is debating making unloaded carry illegal, also. As for getting a CCW, have fun trying. Unless you’re politically connected, it ain’t gonna happen.
I was actually given a limited CCW for two years once, back in the 80′s. There were special circumstances involved. I actually had a known felon threaten my life in front of 6 qualified witnesses. (Anaheim Police Officers) One of them was in the process of cuffing him and putting him in the cruiser, after I had caught him redhanded trying to steal my truck. Without special circumstances, or political connections, you won’t get a CCW in CA.
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Apology accepted. But it wasn’t me that elected those hosebags, I swear it.
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Well, before Moonbeam got back into the Governor’s mansion, we were allowed to carry openly, as long as the gun wasn’t loaded. Real useful, huh? Now, in the last couple of weeks, even that right has been taken from us. Rather than move out of the state I was born in, and have loved ever since, I’m part of a number of movements to get Moonbeam recalled. I’m not leaving this beautiful place without a fight.
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I have yet to cast a vote for Boxer or Pelosi.
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Did your epilepsy cause your illiteracy?
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You have my every sympathy. I would also suggest you get assistance from your state’s Disability offices to get a better education, and perhaps you can get a job you can perform with your disability, and make a little more money for yourself and yourchildrren. Education is key to a less physically demanding job.
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Why is it important to tell us you are Latin? I think the disabled part would have been sufficient to make your argument.
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maria, better you’d learned proper English in the first place and not belched out a bunch of kids who’d have to depend on the entitlements the dems promise you. You have no pity from me, because you are a prime example of not taking care of yourself and preferring to suck off of those who actually DO something. It’s your own fault for bringing children into this world when you are totally unable to care for them, simply because you’re a papist.
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So, you are living off taxpayers AND getting a cell phone as well? R U legal?
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I’m still hidden. Hey, it had to happen sometime. No big deal. It just shows that I’m pissing off the liberals, which I wear as a badge of honor.
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It is a statist agenda. The clowns that did this during GWB’s administration are just as guilty as the clowns doing this during the Obama administration. Statists. It doesn’t matter the political party — they all want to render our liberty null and void.
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Yeah. What he said.
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Now it makes you RICH, Kip. You SHOULD thank Obama for making you rich!
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Oh yeah, the police; when seconds count, they’re only minutes away.
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such things are best left to the pros
So is thinking, maybe that is something you should leave alone.
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You’re not real bright, are you, My Dear Sweet Olivia?
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Ahh Oblovia, I haven’t had the pleasure of your screeching fingernails on the chalkboard and I wish to keep it that way. What you don’t know about inalienable rights and ‘shall not be infringed’ could fill useless volumes of toilet paper, but you still blather on as if we need to hear the words that are coming out of your mouth. The Second Amendment is not just about being able to carry your own weapon around, let alone own it in the first place, but to have a competative edge and parity with a government that has outstripped its constitutional bounds long ago. Guns in the hands of bitter clingers and bible thumpers means that f***heads like you will be less likely to run rampant on our public streets!
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When the mobs are kicking the doors everywhere 911 doesn’t care!
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David: God Bless you for serving brother! be safe over there!
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I was watching a documentary last night, about a family that had their little girl kidnapped by someone they knew. This man was known to be physically and sexually violent with children in the past. The father of the girl found out where they were, and drove to the house. He had information that his daughter was in that house, and he called Toledo Police Department, 911.
After waiting a half hour, he called again, and was told that the police were busy, he was on a list for a service call. He explained the situation again, that he was sitting in front of a house, with a kidnapper and a little girl in it. “Yes, we’re really busy, we’ll get there as soon as we can.
After waiting over an hour, the guy got a crowbar and went in. His wife was in the car, calling 911 again. Turns out the kidnappers were a man and two women, and they overpowered him, shoved him out the door, and were beating him with rocks and bricks. The show had recordings of the wife, and three neighbors, all calling 911, reporting the man being beaten. The dispatcher kept telling them the police were on the way.
When the police finally arrived, they arrested the girl’s father for breaking and entering, then attacking the kidnapper.
Yeah, call the police. Don’t get involved, the police will handle it.
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Gun free zones are just safe zones for criminals.
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Oh Olivia, your just mad cause Illinois is the only state in the union now that has a no issue law still, and the rest of the 49 states, excluding the District of Colombia, allow private citizens to appy for CPL.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry_in_the_United_States
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Should we subsidize snow shovels and toilet brushes? They are necessary too. How about free computers, printers, and paper so the recipient class can exercise their free speech rights? Cars? Let’s give away those too. After all they are necessary for many people. Cellphones don’t even scratch the surface of what people need….sweaters? People need those too.
How dare the tax payer balk at this wealth redistribution via the tax code! Obviously he is a racist and the Olivia’s in the world will condemn him for actually having the gall to want to use his own hard-earned money to buy his own family goods and services.
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My Dear Sweet Pointy-Headed Olivia. Yes, there is often a security deposit required for a land line. That’s because so many lowlife assh*&es just leave without paying their bill when they get kicked out for not paying their rent and move to another fleabag. But what you conveniently fail to mention is that, if you actually DO pay your bill, you get the security deposit BACK when you terminate your service to move to the next location. Then you use that money to pay your NEW security deposit.
And the beat goes on.
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Oh Damn ITS BAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK
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I should add the comment from Olivia that led to the above post:
Some of you far righters seem to be stuck in a mid-20th century time warp. Owning a basic cell phone is no more “fun” than owning a snow shovel or a toilet brush. It’s simply a convenience, that’s all. You get so eaten up with jealousy at the idea of someone else getting some assistance that you can’t see the situation for what it is.
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I will actually partially agree with you on this, as I cannot speak for all people and I do know a few who have guns just to have guns. I own a SOCOM II and a Kimber .45 myself. But I have children I need to protect, and I like to hunt.
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And if someone likes guns that’s bad?!? What about people who like hamburgers, or shoes, or cars, or baseball memorabilia? Gun ownership is more than just liking guns. You have a Federal government that is buying up guns and ammunitions, with your tax dollars, as it there were no tomorrow. What are they preparing to do to you and to me while we’re not looking? You think that because you’re a cheerleader for socialism you’re not going to get clobbered when they finally bring the hammer down? Think again! You’re nothing more than a useful idiot, Oblovia.
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Answer my question our don’t bother responding at all. Your analogy fails at every conceivable level. Why do you only hold certain segments of society responsible for themselves? Socialists like you want me to maintain my home and the home of the lazy guy down the street. Bigotry of low expectations, eh, Olivia?
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“Do you want to do whatever’s reasonable to keep this society at maximum productivity, or are you committed to creating (and expanding) a vast underclass of illiterate, unemployed and unemployable poor?”
Isn’t that where we are now? How many decades of this grand experiment we call welfare does it take to see that it doesn’t work? Maximum productivity? What in the HELL are you talking about? Illiterate, unemployed, unemployable? What do you think this welfare debacle has produced? Are you really this stupid, my dear, sweet, pointy-headed Olivia?
Answer: Yes.
And I can translate her reply in advance. You mean nasty old conservatives haven’t let the welfare state advance far enough, haven’t allowed it to do enough, to work it’s socialistic magic. It’s all your fault! (Gnarled, crooked witch fingers pointed at us.)
P.S. Fourths. Buried.
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you said it best! one of the best posts on here! awesome!
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Oh goodie, here comes the “What inflation?” brigade!
What’s the matter Olivia? Can’t think for yourself?
In case you haven’t noticed, the government has convieniently left the prices of food and energy out of the inflation index since Obama has been President.
I can understand this, since nobody “needs” food or energy, it is something they “CHOOSE” to use!
When milk is pushing $4 a gallon at Wal-Mart, you have to have noticed that prices are going up!
Have you had to buy tires lately? Maybe you noticed that the price of those had doubled in the last 3 years.
Do you pay utility bills? Did you happen to see that there is now a fuel surcharge on your electric bill that accounts for about 85% of the bill?
Do not presume to think that we won’t notice all this just because “the one” has said it isn’t so!
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To troll – You’re very much ill informed regarding my mob-resistant capacity, you presuming pipe full of feces.
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Troll reply invariably 404s. So this was another attempt;
Speak for yourself. The participants will have better luck with your sort rather than mine. I dial 911 when security is verified, not before.
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Even California allows you to apply. They just won’t allow you to actually GET the permit, unless you are politically connected.
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Wisconsin is the most recent to put shall issue in the books. If that would have been the case back a few years ago I might still reside there.
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Well, you can apply for one in California, but you won’t get it unless you’re politically connected. I had one once, but it was only for two years, and I got it because a known felon threatened my life in front of six police officers. Good move.
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I believe it goes into effect later this year. Funny how most of the states have changed their laws to favor ccw’s since the 90′s.
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The numbers don’t lie. More guns, IN THE HANDS OF LAWFUL CITIZENS, creates a safer society. You can show a liberal the facts, in non-disputable numbers, but it can take decades for them to sink in.
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http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdgcon.html
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Here is some light reading on the subject:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/28/chicago-gun-ban-axed-afte_n_627773.html
From the article:
Chicago Police Department statistics, we are told, reveal that the City’s handgun murder rate has actually increased since the ban was enacted and that Chicago residents now face one of the highest murder rates in the country and rates of other violent crimes that exceed the average in comparable cities.
Here is a CDC report on the topic, which is inconclusive:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5214a2.htm
Harvard’s study:
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
This study (on page 653) explicitly states where gun presence is densest, violent crime rates are lowest. It also states the inverse.
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Olivia, you may want to read a NRA book or pamplet on the subject of gun ownership, it may surprise you.
Also taking a CCW/CPL class is a good way to enlighten one’s perspective on how Law enforcement and LAW abiding citizens can and do work together when it comes to CCW/CPL. The course itself can enlighten one’s perspective on the NRA and what they advocate. Once again, it may surprise you.
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Thirds.
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Turds. Again.
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Please provide evidence that the reduction of legally owned guns has decreased the crime rate? Is New York any safer now that Citizens can’t have guns, only criminals? D.C.? Let’s see THAT proof.
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I’m going to try this copy/paste thing you like to do so well.
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By the way, how do you feel about private charities giving “handouts” to the poor? ******
I have no problem with private charities. The point being I can give to a private charity when or if I choose too and not have my earnings taken out of my pocket by the government to give to someone I do not care to help.
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Please produce your evidence showing that MORE guns, in the hands of lawful citizens, creates a safer society.****
The last murder in the little town I live near to occured almost 10 years ago. Everyone around here owns guns and the welfare patients, dope heads, the few lowlife types here know it. You touch my stuff, you will get your ass shot. No questions, no excuses, no sorrow, tough shit. You should have kept your hands out of my cookie jar.
******No, that’s not my answer, Mr. Childish Insults. My answer is a question: what do YOU think is the best and most reliable way of preventing a vast underclass of illiterate, unemployed and unemployable poor?******
A reasonable question, a simple answer. NO WELFARE. No free cell phones. No taxpayer funded housing. No subsidized utilitys. NO FREE RIDE FOR ANYONE!
My family was poor by any standards but we never asked anyone for anything, we earned our way. I quit school after the 9th grade because our father, who worked like a slave all his life, could not make enough at the time to do more than keep a roof over our head and beans on the table. I went to work at anything I could find, pumping gas or washing dishes, it did not matter as long as I could give mom a little money each week. All four younger brothers had a chance to get an education and while I might be the dumbest of the bunch I am proud to be able to stand with my parents and say we got it done. The boys have done good for themselves and their families and none of us has ever, ever asked anything from anyone other than the chance to earn our living.
Now, put that in your liberal, do-goody, pipe and smoke it.
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Thanks. I kept trying to post above and answer the pointy headed one, but 404ed it every time. You guys covered everything I wanted to say though.
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Since you came from a hard working family, I thought you would have understood that SOMETIMES, HUMANS (which are not perfect) may need help. I do however agree that the ones that are taking advantage of the system should be punished. I also work hard & do what I have to do to get my bills paid. Unfortunately, some employers (like fast food resturants) say that I “am over qualified” & they won’t hire me. Look man, I just want to work & pay my bills! But, until then I need a little help since my own family are too self centered to help. HA, they wouldn’t even help their own daughter when her house burned! That made me be more giving to people that I know are trying but can’t quite make it. Why can’t others do that?
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Some of us ‘poor welfare bums’ are not illiterate or lazy or drug addicts. Some of us aren’t lucky enough to have people to help out. I am a single mother of 3 young children, 1 is quite ill. I had planned to stay at home and care for them while my ex-husband worked. Unfortunately he suffered a spinal injury and became a drug addict from the pain medications. We are no longer together because he chose drugs over his family. He now recieves 3X as much assistance as myself and my kids for his ‘disability’ (lol) and is not made to pay alimony or child support. It would cost me 5X as much as I could earn now (pre-degree) to provide a nurse and childcare for my kids. My plan is to return to school so I can provide for my family (yup on your tax $ Ty!) and in the meantime we will be surviving on welfare beans and rice. No cable, Internet or extracurricular activities for us. My car is a piece of crap and I’m terrified everytime I have to drive my daughter to one of her many appointments or go to the college to work on admissions. I have no family and my church has shunned me for divorcing. YET according to you I don’t DESERVE help, my baby should be left to die and I should drive my children around w/ no way to call for help if my car breaks down. So Mr.HASALLTHEANSWERS, aside from laying down in a gutter to die what do you suggest we do???
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“NO WELFARE. No free cell phones. No taxpayer funded housing. No subsidized utilitys. NO FREE RIDE FOR ANYONE!” whiskeyriver….I like you. My parents raised 9 children with no help from the gov. AT ALL!!!! My father never filed for his income tax because he felt that it was charity. Never had a phone in his entire life, didn’t need one. Didn’t have a television set until 1965. Didn’t borrow money from a bank nor did he put his money in a bank. Never had any to put in! He told me once that he and my mother would buy 50 lbs of potatoes and pray it would be enough to feed us until next payday. I remember as a young girl having cornbread smeared with butter for supper. I didn’t know we were dirt poor and it was all we had in the house. We had no electricity, stove, or indoor toilet. Heat came from a fireplace and insulation for our house was paper stuffed in the floor cracks. We depended on each other, family and church. I didn’t have shoes to wear to school when I started way back in ’65 and didn’t need them until the cold set in anyway. Today try sending your child to school without shoes and see how fast CPS responds. The Gov. might even buy the shoes for you. My older siblings also quit school to work to make ends meet. Today try letting your 12 or 13 yr old quit school for any reason and see what happens. Or send ‘em to school with no lunch or lunch money. There were no Free Lunches then and if there had been Daddy wouldn’t have let us take it. My oldest brother suffered from polio during the country’s polio crisis while in the first grade and never went back to school. He worked his job of washing vehicles for a local dealership for more than 30 yrs until his health started to fail him. Can’t read, write, count money but he made it because he HAD to. If the Gov would stop trying to do everything for everyone then they would do it themselves. I have a 27 yr old mentally and physically disabled child. Since birth. She has had major medical problems and with that came major medical bills. When she turned 21 and could no longer be on our insurance and her dad no longer had to pay support for her…I had no choice but to apply for her medicaid medical coverage. That pissed me off!!! If the gov wants to do something for me they could do something with the insurance industry in order to keep special needs children on their parents insurance and change child support laws to demand that fathers take more responsibility of their own disabled adult children. Most of these “free” programs are designed to cause dependency. You can’t receive medicaid insurance without receiving a SSI check!!! How ridiculous is that. I could make do without that monthly check but not her medical coverage! And even then my husband and I, not her father (he refused, had to get himself a new big rig) had to pay for her current artificial leg. $8,875.00 See what I mean!!!! I have no choice and that Mr. whiskeyriver is why I am FED UP TO YOU KNOW WHERE with all this YOU KNOW WHAT
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I am proud of you for working and helping your parents with the money your earned at a teenager. I wish today’s teenagers would help out their parents, by getting summer jobs and for their own extra curicular activities that they have decided to be in. Today teenagers act entitled to everything, wouldn’t even consider helping out with the bills ,and act put upon when questioned about getting a job. I guess it’s the Me, Me, Me generation all they think about is themselves. It is frustrating watching my cousin deal with her teenagers, with the above problem. I told me son as soon as you turns 14 he will be getting a summer job to pay for his own activities. My father went to work every day and never ever complained, the way the kids today do. Frustrated.
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Olivia, you may want to read a NRA book or pamplet on the subject of gun ownership, it may surprise you.
You’re kidding right Babydoll?
Reading would require the opening of the mind to an idea that conflicts with what is written in stone inside a blockhead.
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RHG, when I get 404′d I look at the address bar and it usually has no page number, like this:
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So I enter page number 28, like this:
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And it takes me to the post.
Sometimes it has page 29, and doesn’t take me to the post, so I put in 28 and it works.
I don’t know why it does this, but maybe Mr Editor or Admin can tell us. I do suspect that it has something to do with the thread length.
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You idiot!
It’s about each person choosing which needy person or charity they want to give to, not which one the government tells them they have to.
When I was in the military, we were basically forced to donate to the United Way, which has one of the worst records of money actually getting to the end recipient. I would much rather have donated to a charity I supported and which I know would have gotten more of my donated dollars.
Now, when I donate cash, I donate it only to Veterans organizations, I also donate food to local churches that run their own food banks, and toys to Toys For Tots. These are groups that I know have near zero percent of the donations going to “administrative costs”.
When the government takes your money for the needy, pennies on the dollar get to where it is intended to. It is a huge waste and your defense of it is also a waste.
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Seconds, thirds, and fourths.
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I believe he said he was willing to give to the charity of HIS CHOICE! So he is NOT selfish, he just doesn’t want the government making that decision for him! There was recently an arrest in a small town near here-woman was running drugs and weapons out of her home. She was perfectly healthy, according to the report, but had managed to get $1100 monthly in welfare, housing, food stamps, and was on medicaid. THAT is our objection. THAT is a scammer!
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Not having a lot of cash to work with, I donate time and work to charities that I support. I use my rocking horses to either generate cash directly at their events, and/or to give rides directly to the kids involved. When charities that I don’t support come around asking for money, I tell them I gave at the office, which means their money has already been deducted from my pay.
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Why don’t you read poppajoe’s post three above yours? Then you can withdraw your veiled insult as you will realize that charity is voluntary and welfare is an expense forced on the tax payer with the threat of punishment if the tax payer withholds payment. Let me guess, Crystal, you either are a tax recipient, an earner who is means tested out of paying any federal tax income whatsoever, or simply someone so uninformed that you don’t think about things like where the government gets its money to give to people?
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No Crystal, I’m not religious at all. What’s that got to do with the discussion? I just stated above that I give to the charities that I choose to support in the form of work. So since I don’t want money taken from my pocket at gunpoint, and given to people that don’t deserve it, would you assume that I’m not a religious person?
On the other hand, since I DO contribute to charities voluntarily, does that indicate to you that I AM a religious person?
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Kiss my ass, Olivia. Your repetitive drivel is starting to be….well repetitious. You want to debate me bring a lunch and some facts. You again failed to make one truthful statement. Shocking!
Show me where, in the Constitution, the federal government is empowered to impose the expense of a welfare state on me and not you, a part time nurse. You certainly are generous with other people’s money. Most progressives are. God, you are boring.
The thing is Olivia, this country is flat broke, you may have read about that in some left wing blog site (but I doubt it). Your Great Society has wrecked the finances of this country but losers like you whistle through the graveyard because you and people like are too damn stupid to know any better.
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charity is voluntary and welfare is an expense forced on the tax payer with the threat of punishment if the tax payer withholds payment.
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Oh, balderdash. That’s merely an overworked script fed you by far right wing political manipulators.
Really? Can you show me where that has been said before?
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The fact is that, if you wish to enjoy the privileges of living in a prosperous and well maintained society, you must do your part to help support it.
You didn’t just go there did you?
Please oh stupid one, show me where the recipient class does their part to support the society. What prosperity do they contribute? How do they maintain it?
The fact is that you only want to allow the prosperous to survive so that they can pay the recipient class to live. Those that pay for nothing have no “skin in the game” and could care less what happens, since it’s not coming out of their pocket, they don’t care to maintain anything. Why do you think the projects in Chicago were such a failure? If you have no reason to care about where you live because it costs you nothing, you will mistreat and destroy it. When you have put your hard earned money into a residence, you take care of it.
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We have said similar things in the past here, poppajoe. Progressives will never make that connection. Willful ignorance, I suppose. Responsibility is for the tax payer only. The tax recipient is free to behave any way he wishes because there are no consequences for the bad decisions. According to the CBO, $16T has been spent on social programs and entitlements since the Great Society was announced. The poverty rate has barely budged and has actually ticked up. You take away work ethic, responsibility, self respect, and dignity and you are left with a permanent underclass that somehow tax payers are responsible for financially.
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And when the taxpayers start to wonder why they’re killing themselves to support the underclass, they will put out less effort and become part of the underclass! This will slowly eat away at productivity until all we have left are the underclass and the few rich that survived. The rich will be blamed for it all, “The rich get richer while the poor get poorer” argument that always comes from the left! Unfortunately, they fail to see that they are the cause of this syndrome!
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Again, I must ask: do you know anything about economics or basic accounting? In a nutshell we are $14.5 T in debt. Currently, we are taking in $2.2T in revenue but spending $3.5T annually. That is unsustainable. If you research it, and it’s not hard to do as charts are available, revenues increase when taxes are lower due to a more active economy. Spending, IMO, is the problem. The entitlements will have to be overhauled and every budget item examined. If you think we are not broke, then you’ll have to really be creative in explaining that unless continuing to print money is your solution.
BTW, Obama has added $4T to the debt by himself in 2 1/2 years. That is unconscionable. Bush was a profligate spender but BHO truly in a league of his own. Again, unsustainable.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/washington/09econ.html
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2002/12/tax-cuts-increase-federal-revenues
Many argue that tax cuts don’t pay for themselves but I believe that is misleading when you take into account that government spending constantly increases and outstrips revenues regardless if they are rising or declining.
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Again, I must ask: do you know anything about economics or basic accounting?
In a word, NO, she doesn’t.
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Thank you for answering my question. You know nothing about economics or basic accounting. You are one stupid horny bitch.
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In my household, during our leaner years, if we weren’t taking in enough money to pay our bills, we got off our butts and worked a little harder, or took second jobs, to increase our income.
My goodness! That sounds positively………………….
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CONSERVATIVE!
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In my household, during our leaner years, if we weren’t taking in enough money to pay our bills, we got off our butts and worked a little harder, or took second jobs, to increase our income.
We did that but we also CUT SPENDING. and DID WITHOUT.
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So, when is the government going to take a second job?
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drb, I guess Olivia thinks that the government should moonlight. Maybe it could get a job as a night clerk in a convenience store….you know, to help out.
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Garsh, I can even remember some years that I didn’t take a vacation, throw any lavish parties, buy any outrageously expensive clothes, or tour around in multi-million buses.
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What hapens when you ONLY pay housing, power, water & food. How do you cut spending or do without?
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When you only pay for housing, power, water & food (no frills, no extras) where do you cut or do without?
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No, Kick. Once again she was suggesting an increase in income, with no cuts. Read as the government should increase taxes and not cut her beloved social programs. Of course, I know that you know that, you know?
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Sk: “Maybe it could get a job as a night clerk in a convenience store….
Nix that idea- They can’t be trusted around money.
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You are right! It would rob the no more than $20 in the safe.
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Not to mention that the Slurpee machine would be emptied every night, and there would be thousands of missing scratch off lottery tickets!
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YOU’RE here, so clearly he reaches more than just “like minded posters.”
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It pisses you off, My Dear Sweet Olivia, and that’s enough for me. I’m easy to please.
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There’s no shortage of libs here on this thread, My Dear Sweet Pointey-Headed Olivia.
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Chicago, London or Sydney?
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Donna, you’re a bit late to this thread. So, I suggest you read this thread and others more closely where you see Olivia’s participation. You will have to open her posts because most other commenters here feel that she is a toxic presence and have “thumbed her down” Then, if you stll think I’m an asshole…..I am just fine with that.
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WOW! How insightful…..you have clearly demonstrated that Sidekick is rude. This is, of coarse, the point – deflect and stray from the point of the argument by showing decisively that your opponent is rude! This way, you don’t have to come up with any rebuttal! He is rude and therefore…..WRONG!!!!
You are a smartie! How did you get so smart? Did you do correspondence classes?
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Wow! You are a smart one there! Sidekick is rude therefore his viewpoint is useless.
Did you take a correspondence course in being smart? could you give me the address so I can be as smart as you? maybees it would help me with capital letters too?
How bouts you come up with something to refute his point.
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Donna, you’re new here so you’re forgiven for not knowing better.
Olivia is a nasty, condecending person. Anything she gets, she deserves.
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Kick, I don’t think you are a rude @$$hole, at least, not without cause. Not that you need my approval or anything.
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Thanks, drb! I may not need your approval but I appreciate your thoughtfulness.
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Donna-you have not been dealing with Olivia for the last several weeks. Believe me she is just as rude, if not more so than anyone on this board. And aGAIN, YOU DON’T KNOW, SO STAY OUT OF IT!
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Sidekick is a gentleman and he is never rude to anyone just for the sake of being rude. I take umbrage at your post. You obviously do not know Sidekick nor have you been around long enough to make an informed, intelligent and appropriate judgement of the situation. You should asked as to the reason for the “rudeness” instead of assuming that he is being an a**hole for not reason. There are only two things that I can think here: Either you are new and are pissed off for some reason and need to calm down, or you are Olivia with yet ANOTHER identity (which is lame and it is not a good look).
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Do you intentionally misspell you screen name? Is it some sort of reference to something?
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Cell phones.
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To SUE:
Your fustration is well seen here. As has been stated here again and again, no one here begrudges those who truly are in need. Free loaders are the problem. I am truly sorry for your difficulties, I know life is hard and almost always unfair. Please remember that just because bad things happen to you it does not mean you are a bad person or did something wrong. Sometimes life just sucks and good people get hurt just as easily as bad people. I will say a prayer for you and I hope this tough time in your life doesnt last for long.
Also here is a link for encouragement;
http://cobblestoneroadministry.org/
I found this during a tough time in my life and I hope this gives you the same kind of quiet peace I have found.
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Who said any of that?
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Cut housing by moving in with other family members, that will also cut power as you share expenses. Food- buy store brands, meat becomes a luxury, and there were many a day in my life where I ate rice and beans (they’re cheap) 3 times a day because it was all I had. Got very sick and tired of it but it kept me alive.
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Not twisted. The 2nd gives us the right to keep and bear arms. We also want the right to keep and spend the money we earn the way we want to.
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Vict just another dung mouth victim
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No, entitlement queens like you and the OWS crowd are what is wrong with the current state of affairs in this country. It is that simple. Now, go piick up your participation trophy and go home.
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That’s FlashingScotsman being rude to you. Try to keep up.
The American Dream is to make it on your own, to make something of yourself, not to have everything handed to you at the expense of others. I never do or say anything towards denying anyone that dream. People like you who think the dream is to be able to freeload for generations, or come here illegally and live off the working people, make me ill. Is that rude enough for you?
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hmm. “People who completed their education generally don’t have to be told.” well, of course not, that means they’re either worm-food or so stuck on themselves they think they know it all.
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Yeah, I’m mulling that one over too. Is Vict claiming to be educated and, therefore, not needing to “be told”?
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Oh, he needs to be told.
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You’re about a moron, aren’t you? Clunker rebate to give money to the rich? Explain how that works. And if you’re going to go around calling people wealthy, I think you might be in the wrong place. The regular posters here are all working people.
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RobertW:”my older sisters knocked out my upper fronts with a belt buckle when i was but a lad of 10. and my mom didn’t give a care”
Did your sisters do that out of childishness or meanness? Sorry your Mom didn’t care. Sounds like you might have had it rough. Maybe I was sheltered but it surprises me how rough so many human beings had it as children.
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personal, and private humility is much more honorable than sucking after the govt.’s tit. imo
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You gotta throw some Ramen in there with the rice and beans to break up the monotony, drb.
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actually, it was an accident.
my mom was on the phone at the time. of course that was so much more important because she was arguing with my grandmother about something or other.
“children should be seen and not heard.” that was holy writ when i was coming up.
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oh, it was childish playfulness.
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Yes, yes…I’ve had my share of Ramen, too. In fact I have some in the pantry right now. Dang teenagers are bottomless pits you know!
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Reminds me of that commercial for auto insurance, where the guy is talking about the young girl who’s on a “Ramen noodle every night budget”.
What strikes me as funny is that this “poor” girl is wearing $200 designer sunglasses and gold hoop earrings.
Priorities are all screwed up.
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Hey, you gotta have your fancy earrings and shades. If somebody wants to eat ramen to get that, I’m ok with it. I eat Ramen all the time. Toss a raw egg in there while you nuke it, then add some hoisin sauce, a little soy sauce, it’s good stuff.
Me, I bought a bunch of parts on E-Bay, and made a dozen or so antique copper Celtic knot earrings for about $5. Now I’m set for a year or so, since I lose them so often.
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