Chris Christie goes where others fear to tread: Tells police that their union contracts are “obscene”

by editor on February 1, 2011

Save your comments. We know that New Jersey Governor Chris Christie’s no social conservative. But the way we look at it, nothing social conservatives care about will matter if the country goes bankrupt.

We say keep the house from burning down, then worry about whether the firemen trampled your shrubs.

Here’s Christie talking about police salaries, pensions and layoffs during a town hall meeting in Middletown, New Jersey. He faces down an angry cop and tells him what’s what.

Is there another politician in this country with the balls to take on his harshest critics face-to-face?

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Co2 Insanity February 1, 2011 at 6:54 pm

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We need this guy in California. I vote we trade governors with NJ for 4 years.

danybhoy April 6, 2011 at 9:09 am

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Hate to say it, but you may have to leave CA if you want a state government that cares about the taxpayer. The fact CA re-elected “Gov Moonbeam” after he set the table for the mess you are in now from the last time he was in charge says it all. I have been to CA, it’s a beautiful place, & I would never live there because of how far over the cliff they already are.

Pittsburgh Z February 1, 2011 at 7:43 pm

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Pennsylvania is closer….we get him first Co2

Kevin February 1, 2011 at 7:49 pm

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“We know that New Jersey Governor Chris Christie’s no social conservative.”

That part doesn’t bother me. He’s not pro-freedom, as evidenced by his unwillingness to let law abiding citizens have guns. He thoroughly pisses me off. He’s millimeters away from being the next Reagan but is held back by his inability to trust the people. So far, he’s swing and a miss.

RockingHorseGuy November 11, 2011 at 8:34 am

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Hell of a swing, but a miss is a miss.

Maxsteele February 1, 2011 at 9:19 pm

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Damn I like this guy!

C. Strasburger February 2, 2011 at 6:52 am

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One more piece of proof positive, the truth has no agenda. One more piece of proof positive….liberals lie….as evidenced by the ones that came before Christie, who, in fact, lied, knowing they could not produce…and why? To garner votes, nothing more. And now, the lie is in the light, and Christie is the one that tells the truth….

Manfred February 2, 2011 at 6:58 am

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Gotta take straight talk from politicians when and where you can get it. This message from the NJ governor is post on and all rationale people in all 57 states should rejoice at NJ’s good fortune.

Dave February 2, 2011 at 8:01 am

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I used to like him, but if you really think you like this guy, look a little closer. Christie loves to suck up to the Muslims and their hidden agenda to further himself. He’s also anti-gun. Just another fat F__k politician!

nonkenyan April 6, 2011 at 3:26 pm

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Not sure about that, Dave (Formally “David”? Not the bad David that likes Europe and should move there, but the good David) Christie and the ‘hidden Muslim agenda’. Please explain that and, please try to provide fact rather than opinion. I’m willing to check that issue out. I don’t care if he’s ‘anti-gun’, which is your term….that could mean a lot of things. I have guns and I don’t think Christie’s opinion on that subject is gonna make much of a difference on me using ‘em…Or not

Teri Davis Newman February 2, 2011 at 10:40 am

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Christie/Bachmann 2012 I can live with it. This guy has real balls–and other than me, he’s the only politician around who has the cojones to stand up to people who criticize him and win!

Warren February 2, 2011 at 1:03 pm

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It’s been my experience that no politician is going to have exactly the same beliefs as you. Even Reagan did some things that I don’t totally agree with – what we need to do is look on the good things this man is doing and balance them with the issues he has. I am not sure i agree with his gun control stance, but (from what I’ve seen, as a person not living in New Jersey) there is much more going for the guy. I’ve really liked everything I’ve seen, he seems to be a straight forward politician that is intelligent. Not something that is seen much.

Deb February 3, 2011 at 9:15 am

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The whole country needs this kind of plain talking explanation of the financial issues it has. CONGRESS needs to hear “we simply can’t afford it!” and “why should you get a raise when the private sector hasn’t had a raise in years?”

Dennis 07020 February 4, 2011 at 2:56 pm

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This guy only tells the half truths and practices class warfare.
First police and firefighters are in a differnet pension system then public employees. our pension system is not in as bad a shape as christie would like you to believe.
second the state has not made it’s pension payments and has used this money to balance there budget. Police and firefighters have made there payments, and are paying 8.5% of there pay for pension.
Three the reason we get paid for our sick time is if we call in sick someone has to replace us at overtime. so it was cheaper for the towns to give us an incentive to work.
Four, Night time differntial is not uncommon in the private sector. Working nights takes a toll on a person. In my department we do not get it, but, there is a reason and once you begin working some mid night shifts you will understand.
Five I have no choice in my health plan, we have made concessions to lower the cost. but, i cannot choices a differnet plan if it is not offered.
Finally, People in the private sector have had the option to take these jobs, but declined. These jobs (police and Fire) always look good in bad economic times. We DO NOT get bonus or stock plans, or profit sharing. We get to run toward problems that other people run away from. we get to deal with hurt and broken kids, we get to deal with people who have nothing to lose by killing a cop. Our familys never know when we leave for work will we be coming home or not.

C. Strasburger February 4, 2011 at 7:16 pm

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You’re an idiot……dude, life is about choices…you didn’t have to be a cop or a firefighter….you made that choice….deal with it. As a kid, none of the guys I knew that joined the police or fire dept never asked about their pensions…..they asked about what they could do to do good for their fellow citizens. I had a family friend that was a sgt in the PD in Birmingham, Al in the 70′s when I was in college…..all he wanted to was to do is what was right…..

Not feeling sorry for you, not at all. If you wanted a job that provided for you as the private sector did before onumbnutz, you should have taken a private sector job. You’re pathetic……apparently you didn’t get the memo……NJ is broke…..again, still not feeling for you, ace……

Deb February 4, 2011 at 8:56 pm

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I guess it is a good thing you got on with police/fire, since you obviously failed English composition. You cannot spell or string together an intelligent sentence. Aside from that, how many seniors paid into Social Security as a supplement to their pensions, and are now being told, “sorry, the money isn’t there. Too bad!” If you are able to work, you should not be calling in sick, whether you get to cash in unused sick pay or not. If you are sick, stay home and don’t give it to anyone else. If you are not, get your ass to work and quit scamming the system. As a nurse, I did get shift differential for evening and night shifts, but that was an incentive for people to work those shifts, not payment because they did. In jobs with rotating shifts, we did not get a differential, even though the constant changing of shifts is worse than straight evenings or nights. Other than when I worked for the Air force, I have had 2 choices in my available healthcare plans-take or don’t take it. You can refuse your company’s offer and use your spouse’s plan, or go to a private group and get insurance on your own. Sometimes it is better and cheaper than the one the company offers. I worked for over 40 years as a nurse-no pension, no bonus, no time and a half for anything, no 401K. Quit whining. Your meal ticket has been punched, and now you will have to adapt to survive.

Krys April 6, 2011 at 9:03 am

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Okay, I understand how many people are actually happy that Christie has instituted these laws and what not. But just to comment on some things that people said about the officer who wants to retire. Would YOU want to do this job? To deal with the derelict’s of society? No, I don’t think you would. These men and women DO put their lives on the line to keep us, the common civillian, oblivious to how many losers are actually out there. These people have bigger balls than any civillian, because they WILLINGLY take this job. I get it, our state is in a hole that seems almost impossible to come out of. But don’t put the fault on those who willingly risk their lives. I believe they deserve to be paid for all the time they put in, and re-paid for the time they lost with their families due to serving and protecting.

C. Strasburger April 6, 2011 at 10:36 am

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Life is all about choices, Krys….something you obviously fail to understand. Most of the cops I know, and I know lots of them….lots of them….they didn’t take the job for the money….none of them. If you want to make real money, get a job in the private sector.

If it is so difficult for you to understand basic 3rd grade econimics, that’s really sad. Fact is, those of us that actually pay taxes are running in short supply right now, in case you hadn’t noticed. And if obambi continues his lunacy of guaranteed failure politics, it is going to get worse…. Are you one of the 47% that don’t pay any taxes?

Krys April 11, 2011 at 9:58 am

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Well … yes actually I am paying my taxes, and I have been doing so since I was 15 years old. I understand our state is in the hole. Don’t misunderstand me, I get that fact. What I am saying though, is that I think it’s unfair to the men and women who protect and serve to not get what they have paid in to. They do it willingly. But so do the men and women who serve in our military, and no one wants to take their money. In fact, I bet most people would be very much against that. I know I would be enraged.

C. Strasburger April 25, 2011 at 3:34 pm

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Well, then I certainly hope that you were enraged when the idiot in our white house threatened to stop military pay during the prospective shutdown (which should have happened, btw). That would have been the first time in the history of this country, with numerous shutdowns that would have happened. Never before has any president threatened that…but then, this idiot hates the military, and our country overall….obvious from his moronic policy making.

All of this is by design you know…….all of it. Funny….Europe is running away from socialism because it doesn’t work….and we are headed for it. Only an arrogant idiot liberal would try something so incredibly stupid….history does not lie….but liberals do….

saywhat?! April 25, 2011 at 11:31 am

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“A Unionized public employee, a member of the tea party, and a Big CORP CEO are sitting a table. In the middle of the table, is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the Tea Partier and says, “Look out for that Union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie.”

First, on behalf of all those who’s ass has ever been assisted by a cop, firefighter or otherwise, my apologies to Dennis. Deb and Strausberger are both totally out of line. The joke above illustrates how those of us who work for a living are being pitted against each other. It’s incredibly sad to hear comments come from one American towards another, such as Deb and Strausberger threw out at Dennis. I understand they’re pissed, but their frustrations are totally misdirected. The bottom line is that Wall Street and the huge corporations have run our economy into the ground with their off the charts irresponsible lending practices and out-sourcing of our manufacturing sector to China. (That’s Communist Dictatorship China for all you who have supported the “free” trade out-sourcing effort that has financially enabled the Chinese Dictatorship to build their military up to the point where the now have stealth technology. Good job guys! ). Not only has it been the behavior in their positions within the private sector, but the fact that they are literally writing the policy (Hi, Hank Paulson, Goldman Sachs?) that is supposed to be repairing our economy. At 4:03 in this clip of Christie he slits his own proverbial throat when he starts talking about how “In this economy….”. THIS economy is the product of Wall Street, bailout paid bonuses, outsourcing our jobs and the continued implementation of the utterly failed policy of trickle down economics. Take us back to Clinton era tax rates, raise revenue, stop sending our jobs overseas and let’s get this ship turned around. If you’re going to be vile and pissed, be pissed at those who have the big money, not the ones that come to save your ass when you’re in a jam.

C. Strasburger April 25, 2011 at 2:54 pm

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Not even sure where to start with this one. It is obvious that “saywhat” is most challenged on history, and apparently, reality.

You know, it is sad that you’ve been drinking the kool-aid for so long…apparently clouding your judgement (if you in fact have any) on the facts. You can keep on blaming wall street if you want, but factually, your hero’s in the congress and the idiot in our white house have constantly lied to you…blaming others for their ignorance, which is all too typical of the liberal democrats. A lie told often enough becomes truth to far too many…they are still lies. They, liberals, throughout history have NEVER taken any responsibility for their actions, their actions, in fact, caused the meltdown…since the 70′s, enhanced in the 90′s. The wall street guys just did what they do, in direct response to the liberal policies that created this mess. Not even going to attempt to educate you on the outsourcing issue….you are not likely smart enough to get it anyway.

You really have no substance in your argument because they are based on lies…..repeating nothing but meaningless talking points with no basis in reality. Get a grip, will you, before its too late for you?

Deb April 25, 2011 at 6:44 pm

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I never said I did nit think the current financial crises were the fault of Wall Street and future traders, and rich people looking for evermore wealth. I have no problem with firefighters or cops-some of my best friends. . .to quote the old saying. But they really were, especially when I still worked ER. My 2nd child’s Godfather is a cop. I still stand by the fact that if there IS NO MONEY you cannot receive money. It is a fact of reality (contrary to Congress’ assumption that one can spend money one does not have.) Do I think it sucks? You betcha. Do I feel at this point there is much you can do about it? No. Maybe if we all bite the bullet a little, do without quite so much and bring our Government spending back into line, our kids and grandkids won’t be starving. Just saying. . .

Manfred April 25, 2011 at 6:48 pm

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We need the federal gummint cut back to what’s authorized for it to do in Art 1 Sec 8. Feeding people ain’t listed – neither are social programs. About 2/3rds of all federal spending wars against the Constitution and should be slowly (some fast) eliminated.

RockingHorseGuy November 11, 2011 at 8:42 am

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You got that right, Manfred! And maybe the firefighters and police would understand that concept of everyone taking a cut if the politicians cut their own salaries and perks first. Lead by example.

JL Mealer May 22, 2011 at 3:48 pm

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Okay, time to stop complaining and to stop asking for more and to solve the problem. Mealer Economic Plan does just that. We start in Arizona because that’s where I am…. IF you care, you need to push my governor and the government related parties below to get it rolling.

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OR BETTER YET all THREE!

Cheryl July 7, 2011 at 10:20 am

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unreal he is making $175,000.00 a year. He is in the top 10 of highest paid Governor is US. And he gets a increase every year. Law enforcement is the same man protects him on a daily bases these men and women some into there 15-20 yrs of dedicated service are now being told that they have to pay 33 in half percent of there medical which in all fairness that’s OK. But to cut there pensions and take what they fairly worked the majority of their lives for is just UNFAIR. They are adding years to retirement age. Taxing on pensions if law enforcement decide to remain in the state that they lived all their lives. NJ. He talks about sick days and birthdays holidays. REALLY because he is PAID even if he is not working so he don’t need time or days off HE JUST TAKES THEM. LAYOFF UNREAL. All this is doing causing is higher crime higher response time. And a smack in the face. Talks up officer but tries and did take everything that they worked so hard for. He’s states he does not lie IT’S Nothing But LIES. Don’t care if my husband (as a Police Officer of 17 in half years) they get raises or have to pay for insurance but i do know that he’s pension that he has paid for he’s WHOLE career and he risk is life every day for people that he’s never meet now at 50yrs old wondering if he will have a job or have to work now another 13yrs just to be able to get 60 percent of pension and then pay taxes on it to. WHAT IS HE”S PENSION GOING TO BE???

Sam November 11, 2011 at 7:31 am

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The folks applauding him are lame. 4 guys cashing out $900,000 at retirement­. CC lied. That was BOTH sick and vacation pay. They showed up AT WORK instead of staying home or going to Miami.

Each had over 24 years of service to that city. 24 years. On average they are receiving $225,000. Over 24 years that is under $9,375 a year the city spent so they could have each man on duty.

That is a gd bargain and some rich guy in a suit has the nerve to question it.

That works out to an additional $4.68 per hour for their work over their careers.

They earned this money.

Frank March 27, 2012 at 10:34 am

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Lies, Lies, Lies, Gov. Christie said the unions did not want to settle, but the unions wanted to make sure that there would be no Layoffs if they take the deal. Mayor of Camden could not agree with it. So that is why the unions to say NO way.

Frank March 27, 2012 at 10:36 am

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How about reading this:
http://www.bluejersey.com/diary/17849/christie-lie-primer-volume-1

Of some of the whopper of lies this governor is telling.

Frank March 27, 2012 at 10:42 am

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How about this:
My parent’s property taxes are around $8,200. Before we had Christie, my parents were getting a tax rebate of around 2,200 in total. Now he stops the rebates so my parent’s taxes are going from $6,000 back to $8,200.

Now he comes as a “fake” angel saying he is giving my parents a $200 to $250 tax credit. What a big deal.

It was so bad, my parents almost lost their home, until my sister had to move in with them.
The also lost the Senior home freeze program so now I believe my parent’s property taxes should be around $9,000 a year. For less then 1/4 acre home.

And people says this governor did not raise taxes. Tell that to millions of seniors that can not afford to live in NJ and can not afford to move out, because there is no is willing to buy these high priced property taxed rates until there is a real reform on property taxes, not this Fake 2% cap with more holes then Swiss cheese.

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