Christie Meets With Obama as Sandy Aid Package Formed: Finally, we are about to get some idea of how much Obama expects us to pay for his de facto endorsement from Chris Christie.

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Bonfire of the Absurdities December 7, 2012 at 5:39 pm

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I don’t feel too bad, at least Christie vetoed the NJ Obamacare exchange yesterday. Our last governor (Honest Jon Corzine) would’ve approved it then mysteriously accidentally lost the money in the Zimbabwe stock market or something.

poppajoe49 December 7, 2012 at 8:15 pm

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I still am pissed at him for his fawning over Obungles.
Makes me glad I left NJ when I did.

Progressive Hemrrhoid December 7, 2012 at 8:18 pm

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How much do you want to bet “Dear Leader” shafts Christie, even after his virtual endorsement. He’s had his way with him and now it’s time to discard another ruined tool.

poppajoe49 December 7, 2012 at 9:02 pm

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Do I hear a large, black, campaign bus?

MDLION December 8, 2012 at 1:52 pm

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I continue to have mixed feelings about Christie. His embrace of Obama and recent praise of Obama campaigner Bruce Springsteen has hurt him with conservatives. And yet he does things like this and the defunding of Planned Parenthood in New Jersey. His force of personality could make him formidable in 2016, but I think Rubio would be difficult to beat if he can effectively communicate the message that he can draw Hispanics back to the Republicans.

poppajoe49 December 8, 2012 at 2:43 pm

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Rubio is losing his shine with me too.
When he started talking amnesty, his glimmer got a bit tarnished.
He won’t bring the Mexicans, etc. into the fold, just the Cubans.
There is a big divide between different factions of Hispanics.

Sidekick December 8, 2012 at 6:03 pm

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Rubio isn’t the answer. It’s going to take a charasmatic governor (not Christie) to rise up and reignite national pride and dignity. Four more years of what we have now is going to crush our spirit. A visionary will be required or we are finished as the country we once were. Just another social democracy where the tax payers are enslaved by the recipient class.

KimmyQueen December 8, 2012 at 2:23 pm

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I like that Christie is not a lemming and that he is own man. It is important to be a politician when he has to be and stand out for the conservative agenda when it has to be uplifted.

Sidekick December 8, 2012 at 6:06 pm

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My problem with Christie is his very soft approach to radical Islam and he doesn’t really strike me as a limited government type. That said, I’m thrilled that he declined the health insurance exchange. In NJ that is a bold move.

DefHarryMelon December 9, 2012 at 6:02 am

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I was gungho on his style myself until he promoted his get along with radical moslems meme not long after his blip on the radar grew in dimension. He installed a judge or something with a hard wire connection to the anti-west CAIR and/or other radical islamic organs, right?

KimmyQueen December 9, 2012 at 2:56 pm

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He doesn’t strike you that way because in all truth he isn’t as he does seek a lot of government help to get a lot of his programs going, however it is my understanding (I could be wrong) that a lot if not all of his programs that he wants to implement are in essence conservative in nature (right?). If it comes to using tax money (so called government money) for conservative purposes… isn’t that better than for them to be used for progressive purposes?

I am not at all educated on radical Islam being a great problem in NJ however if it is, he really needs to get on it.

Sidekick December 9, 2012 at 3:15 pm

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Your first part is right on the mark. Why the huge bailout for Sandy? That is not a federal liability. If the Jersey Shore is so great, then where are all the developers rushing in to rebuild? Why isn’t the property damage insured? Why are the tax payers of the others states FORCED to pay for this? I’m not talking about short-term disaster relief. These governors, Christie included, want the federal tax payer to cover the whole thing. Absurd and unconstitutional. Same ole liberal garbage: privatize the reward and nationalize the risk.

KimmyQueen December 9, 2012 at 3:29 pm

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I actually do agree with you. The shore should be able to pay for itself in case of damage. If it didn’t make enough money to pay for itself then it shouldn’t be rebuilt and something else should take its place. I was just putting myself in his shoes, it is difficult to ween oneself of government help (tax money). Stossel said it right that if people are stupid enough to built in areas that can easily be destroyed, they should be able to pay for any damage themselves (get insurance to cover it) and not take tax payer money to pay for it all. I think that we are all guilty of being too dependant on the government to the point where a lot of governors and politicians are not seeing things the way that you do which is correct in philosophy just not practice in real life.

Sidekick December 9, 2012 at 3:47 pm

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I’m not anti-government per se. I’m anti huge, bloated, federal leviathans that suck all of the resources from the state and local levels of government that actually know what the needs of their constituents are and then dole it back like they’re doing them a favor. I’m an anti-federalist and the proof of my convictions are all around us. In fact, this board wouldn’t exist if we actually were beating the progressives in the arena of ideas. We are not and it is a bit disheartening.

Alien December 9, 2012 at 6:07 pm

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I like Christie.. so I’d like to know what I’m missing on the Muslim thing. I know he appointed a Muslim judge, and on the face of it this isn’t a problem for me, as I’ve had both Muslim coworkers and neighbours. He didn’t strike me as an Islamist, which is where I’d draw the line. I don’t see anything like a Sharia threat either. I like that Christie had the balls to stick to his guns, in this matter.

poppajoe49 December 9, 2012 at 7:38 pm

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OK, here’s one part of a multi part story on Christie and his beliefs.

http://conservativenewjersey.com/chris-christie-a-conservative-myth-part-7

Alien December 9, 2012 at 6:35 pm

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Also, on the matter of the healthcare exchange: i haven’t followed Christie to closely here, but doesn’t that just pave the way for feds to roll in and set one up? I know there’s a lot of debate on the merits either way, across states

Sidekick December 9, 2012 at 6:44 pm

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So far 17 states (I believe) have rejected the exchanges. Compounded with the SCOTUS Medicaid funding ruling, the Feds can’t afford nor have the resources to set up the exchanges themselves. Nullification. As to Christie and the Muslim thing, just Google radical Islam and Christie and a number of pieces come up. The judge is one but there were some questionable outreach choices too. IOW, he appears tone deaf to the issue. As for Muslim neighbors, I have many, many. They and the Indians have colonized the part of Tampa that I live in in the wake of the collapsed real estate market. They are quiet and keep to themselves. They, I’m sure, are harmless but incredibly tribal. I rarely interact with these neighbors, which is how the Indians especially like it.

drb December 9, 2012 at 6:53 pm

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I have read conflicting reports on the number of states who have rejected setting up exchanges…I read in one that it was 30 states, but in most other reports it has always been a lower number 15 -24…The way I see it Obamacare is going to booger everything up, and I mean everything.

Alien December 9, 2012 at 7:12 pm

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I wouldn’t have interacted myself, most likely.. but our kids all jumped in the melting pot together.. Hindu, Muslim, Mormon, and whatever the hell mine are

Seems a tad less diverse up here in Denver (in terms of faith).. my kids mostly have Hispanic or mulatto friends

Karmaa December 10, 2012 at 5:03 am

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My daughter had a real mix of friends all through high school. After they hit college though, several of the minority kids found “their own culture” and grew apart from the others. It was sad – I really thought their generation could be the one to help break the race stuff, and be really color-blind. But as soon as they hit college, the kids were recruited by liberal activists. One girl in particular who is an egyptian muslim was particularly vulnerable – she was snatched by a group in her freshman year – I guess they were thrilled to have a genuine african in their group, instead of the african-wanna-bes.

poppajoe49 December 10, 2012 at 5:22 am

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Alien, Denver has been the Cold Weather Mexico for years.
It was full of hispanics back in the middle 1980′s when I was back there for advanced schooling in the Air Force.

RobertW December 10, 2012 at 5:44 am

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Lowery? spent a summer there ’72. they had a nice swimming pool.

http://www.coloradoaerialphoto.com/poster.html

poppajoe49 December 10, 2012 at 5:55 am

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Yes, I was there 81-82 for my basic course, then again in 83, and 84 for advanced schools.
I was partial to the golf course, it was real nice.

DefHarryMelon December 10, 2012 at 12:15 am

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CAIR has been burning the midnight oil in the Tampa area recently. They’ve been in the news for jamming their way into schools in Pasco and Hillsburough and fighting the resistance to that. The mosques are probably full of semtex and weapons.

Sidekick December 10, 2012 at 4:46 am

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That’s true. There was a story recently about a Muslim outreach thing organized by CAIR at Steinbrenner HS. No way would any other religion be allowed anywhere near a school. I try to give the benefit of doubt where I can but I’m not fooled for a second that among the Muslim population in the northeast section of Tampa there are those who plot jihad. The two Pakistani brothers who were just arrested come to mind.

RobertW December 9, 2012 at 6:47 pm

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i liked Christie, and i’m probably more in the dark about his politickin’ and what that means for the people of my nation. I will say this though, and it’s purely opinion, based only on my personal observations. I think he’s done some good, by following his leader and not fomenting rebellion, just so long as lic palm-greasing fragrant oil slippin (a seemingly (universal) obsequiousness when it comes to bowing), let’s hope he helps his state.

great melting pot, yeah, except that barry, and all the corrupt “leaders” under him want to stratify, and add poisonous ingredients to the mix,

Sidekick December 9, 2012 at 6:57 pm

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That’s fine, I’m not trying to run him down. I resent the notion that I am supposed to pay for Sandy so residents in the affected states can then go in and make money after the tax payer has done the financial heavy lifting. Frankly, that is bullshit and Christie is totally bought into that.

RobertW December 9, 2012 at 6:59 pm

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right-o!

KimmyQueen December 9, 2012 at 2:54 pm

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It seems that I made a couple of people mad at least… Listen… or read… I always thought that the conservative movement had place for free thinkers and allowed for those that were unorthodox but in principle stood for what was right if not perfectly well in the eyes of others at least for the best overall. I am not a big huge fan of Christie, because I don’t like the thug thing, but I do appreciate that he is not a lemming and is his own man. I know that a lot of people hated him chumming it up with Obamie, but then I found out that Obamie blocked help for Christie to get something conservative and important going on with education in the state. Considering how important is to help his people after this hurricaine I can understand his zeal to want Obamie on his side, however I do AGREE that he shouldn’t have been SO overzealous it was off putting I know but he had to play the game and people need to understand that, sometimes we cannot be undiplomatic especially when it comes to helping people in need.

RobertW December 9, 2012 at 4:55 pm

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well, i’m no mathemetician, bu ti betcha i been disappeared more often than you, so hey, plz. don’t sweat the small stuff. K? k. :)