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Christopher Dorner standoff: Cops urge burning of cabin (vulgar language). Was this cabin deliberately torched by law enforcement? We wonder if this will have any implications?

Contributed on February 13, 2013 by CO2Insanity, who has submitted 2537 posts. Author's website.

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Missile Command February 13, 2013 at 7:43 am

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Like Waco, no consequences. What difference does it make?/sarc

Big Al February 13, 2013 at 8:02 am

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Maybe he set his cabin/compound on fire himself like a good Branch Davidian.

Fenster314 February 13, 2013 at 9:01 am

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Funny how these compounds seem to accidentally catch on fire when the people inside are armed. SLA, MOVE, Matthews -silent brotherhood, WACO and a host of others.

Why should we pay taxes for high tech weaponry and swat training for the police when all they really need is a box of matches?

sa_rose February 15, 2013 at 10:08 pm

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Now they are saying he shot himself in the head, so I don’t think he shot himself then started a fire to cover it up. But what do I know?

mojo February 13, 2013 at 8:07 am

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More like the SLA shootout.

Karmaa February 13, 2013 at 8:45 am

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These are the “authorities”? They are the ones that we task with protecting us and being able to treat even the worst offenders with respect? I am not happy about this AT ALL. In fact, I am disgusted beyond words.

Why is what these cops did any different than what Dorner did? Dorner killed people that he felt had ruined his life. These cops were willing to kill a man because he killed people they cared about. I mean – think about it this way – Dorner was killing over something that happened to him personally. These cops were killing aver something that essentially offended them.

I can’t even wrap my thoughts around this one. I do know however, that this entire incident has eroded my confidence in police. The LAPD is clearly corrupt. These cops were allowed to bring their personal feelings into the situation. I know they are only human, but Dorner was only human too.

(disclaimer: I am not saying that Dorner was justified or that he was even living in reality-land. What he did was dead wrong, and anyone who supported him, or rooted for him is a sick person.)

GhostntheMachine February 13, 2013 at 6:18 pm

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And to you and all the way too far and between Lady IHTM types out there

→ Happy Valentine’s Day

Karmaa February 13, 2013 at 7:18 pm

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Why thank you! What a sweet thought!

drb February 14, 2013 at 6:29 am

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That was sweet wasn’t it.

Awe, Ghosty *blush*

sa_rose February 15, 2013 at 10:10 pm

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Thanks Ghost!

PsychoDad February 13, 2013 at 8:54 am

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Come on, torching a place is a standard strategy to flush somebody out. It’s a little different than going in with flamethrowers and napalm grenades.

Karmaa February 13, 2013 at 9:01 am

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Don’t we generally use smoke grenades to flush people out? Fire in a combat situation I can understand, but torching a little cabin in the woods? That seems pretty extreme. Just saying…

Fenster314 February 13, 2013 at 9:03 am

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You must live on an interesting planet.

drb February 13, 2013 at 11:13 am

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I thought Dorner set fire to the place then shot himself… O.o

flashingscotsman February 13, 2013 at 12:23 pm

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There’s no way to know that. And if there’s evidence to the contrary, do you think we’ll ever see it?

BobontheJob February 13, 2013 at 9:18 am

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My advice during Waco: just put a fence around it, name it Waco Federal Prison and post a few guards – those people couldn’t give up fast enough so they could whine about due process…
Here, though, Karmaa is correct. What about a standoff – they usually last a while; even days. Tear gas, smoke grenades – common. Torching is NOT a common tactic.

Missile Command February 13, 2013 at 9:29 am

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I agree with your Waco thinking entirely.

In this case, sorry to say, we couldn’t allow this ‘minor’ drama interfering with dear leader’s SOTU speech. Quickly now, off with his head/sarc.

Sarcasm aside, I can see why the cops would want this guy dead. But it is the higher up authorities wanting him dead, and quick, that is troubling to me. It seems as there was absolutely no restraint used, no idea to take him alive. Once you challenge the system, or are deemed a threat to the system, you are to be exterminated quickly so no questions can be asked and the state can set the after action narrative.

poppajoe49 February 13, 2013 at 10:11 pm

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My advice during Waco: just put a fence around it, name it Waco Federal Prison and post a few guards

Can we do the same with the White House?
Call it DC Federal Prison?

Jim Stewart February 13, 2013 at 9:29 am

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Janet Reno comes out of retirement to save the day!

MGAP February 13, 2013 at 9:47 am

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This guy was crazy and could have possibly left behind some more widows if given a chance. An extended stand-off might have afforded him with such an opportunity. No gray area here IMO. I hope he suffered… a lot.

flashingscotsman February 13, 2013 at 12:26 pm

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I’ve never understood the importance of taking lunatics alive. I think SWAT teams put way too much emphasis on taking them alive. But I also agree that this guy was a danger and embarassment to the establishment, and that’s why he’s dead now.

Jim Stewart February 13, 2013 at 10:53 am

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Hi, I’m Janet Reno and when you need to start a blaze in a hurry, do what I do, reach for Kingsford charcoal. You’ll be burning Branch Davidians and pissed off cops in no time.

perlcat February 13, 2013 at 1:03 pm

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I hear ATF helped David Koresh to stop smoking.

ooddballz February 13, 2013 at 1:43 pm

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I hear ATF helped David Koresh to stop smoking.

Only fair, since they made him START smoking.

ooddballz February 13, 2013 at 11:10 am

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I feel sorry for the person who owns that patch of charred ground.

CO2Insanity February 13, 2013 at 11:44 am

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You can bet their insurance carrier is already analyzing the fine print to try and wiggle out of paying for it. They could try and claim it was an act of war and deny the claim.

flashingscotsman February 13, 2013 at 12:27 pm

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Big Bear is a terrible place to be starting fires. Maybe this time of year, it’s not so bad, but they are understandably a VERY fire-conscious community.

poppajoe49 February 13, 2013 at 10:13 pm

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They could try and claim it was an act of war and deny the claim.

Yet Ft Hood was merely “workplace violence”.

Elrond Hubbard February 13, 2013 at 11:50 am

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Personally, I hope Dorner is dead and I don’t care if he committed suicide or the police burned him out. Any trial for this scumbag would become a left-wing circus with Dorner and his lawyers turning the courtroom into a political show trial.

perlcat February 13, 2013 at 1:48 pm

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I don’t agree with this guy’s method of ‘clearing his name’. I smell a rat, though.

I think that he had lost his mind, and going by what I’ve read about it, think that he got pushed over that edge by a whole mess of injustice. Damn shame, really.

[scarpers off, wearing a "ATTENTION: LAPD: I'm not Chris Dorner, PLEASE DON'T SHOOT!" T-shirt.]

Progressive Hemrrhoid February 13, 2013 at 2:07 pm

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Well the LAPD is well known for using Excessive Force. But I’m with the folks that are saying somebody higher up wanted this guy quieted in a hurry. Look at the bright side, the taxpayers won’t have to foot the bill for incarcerating him.

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