DEM LAWMAKER: OBAMA MUST ‘EXPLOIT’ SCHOOL SHOOTING TO GET GUN CONTROL. Never waste a crisis. We’d like to know what gun control would have prevented this tragendy? It’s now being alleged the shooter was a whacked-out Goth, that he tried to purchase a gun and was denied, it appears he stole the guns from his mother, had asberger’s syndrome and “another disorder.” Absent that he could have gone to Newark and bought guns on the black market on about any street corner. It appears that nothing short of divine intervention would have stopped this.

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ooddballz December 15, 2012 at 12:04 pm

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It appears that nothing short of divine intervention would have stopped this…..But perhaps an armed teacher could have minimized the damage in the free fire….er… GUN FREE zone.

(Note to self: You have REALLY got to figure out the italics and cross out word thing)

PS ( the little emote thingys are kind nice too.)

RobertW December 15, 2012 at 10:02 pm

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at least you didn’t say anything about michael moore and assburgers.

poppajoe49 December 16, 2012 at 12:06 am

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Yet, it’s still the gun’s fault.

deepthinker December 15, 2012 at 2:30 pm

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Here is wishing that they all burn in HELL for even thinking of this. If there had been someone in the school who was armed, this whole massacre could’ve been stopped just as soon as the shooter shot into the window and forced his way in.

Again and again, I keep saying we only get there after the fact. Damnit I want people to listen and be prepared to deal with the evil that is out here.

danybhoy December 15, 2012 at 3:50 pm

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Again, I have said I’m waiting for the Dems “Reichstag fire” moment. Whether or not they set the fire, I’m waiting to see what incident they attempt their big power grab. “Never let a crisis go to waste”, you know?

RobertW December 15, 2012 at 10:03 pm

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when that white chick crashes a aim pow-wow.

poppajoe49 December 16, 2012 at 12:08 am

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?

RobertW December 16, 2012 at 12:24 am

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that white chick that said she was indian?

oh not chick, biddy.

Paden December 15, 2012 at 4:05 pm

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Maybe the anti-gun liberals are behind these mass shootings, they’ve made the “facts” fit their agenda before-

danybhoy December 15, 2012 at 4:14 pm

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No way. Most anti gun libs have never held a gun. The people who commit these types of crimes don’t care about our laws or life, they are going to do what they do whether it’s legal or not. But anti gun libs will use this week’s shootings in CT & OR to push for tightening gun laws. They will blame the NRA more then the shooter every time, & until that changes, nothing will change with these types of tragic stories.

matthew s harrison December 15, 2012 at 4:33 pm

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My response to this, and other libtard douche-nozzle shitbirds who think its okay to piss on the graves of 5 year olds. First-fuck you. second, just go away: http://thedailypamphlet.com/murder-and-the-left-11508.html

Geoff B December 15, 2012 at 11:01 pm

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I’ve put a lot of thought as to what I’d say about this as the events on Friday have really hit home as there are many people in my family who are teachers and many children in my family who are the age of the children who were so brutally taken by that piece of shit gunman (may he rot in hell). As I expected, the usual assholes were right at the forefront (Moore,Bloomberg ,Morgan) seeking to politicize these innocent victims to push their ridiculous agenda. If anything, these vile piles of dung re-enforced my belief in the 2nd Amedment. Gun Free zones do nothing but invite such havoc. The liberal mantra is “get rid of all the guns”. That’s great, but the problem is, the people who are likely to comply with gun control laws are the people who should be allowed to have guns in the first place. Criminals don’t follow laws (that’s why they are criminals). How about let law abiding citizens have guns ans those who aren’t (felons, illegal aliens, the mentally ill) get put away for life with no parole if they are found with them? Common sense is as usual lacking with the libtards.

CO2Insanity December 15, 2012 at 11:17 pm

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By my count the art of common sense started gradually fading about 1967 and by 1972 slowed down a lot. I figure it pretty much died about the mid 1980′s.

whiskeyriver December 16, 2012 at 10:02 am

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Your times sound about right. Look at the “progressiveness” of the skrewl system from ’67 to now and it tells the story.

CO2Insanity December 16, 2012 at 10:11 am

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In 1967 I was in the 8th grade. I’m still trying to remember what I learned from 7th grade to 12th grade. This is not due to my memory being bad either. It’s due to the fact I didn’t really learn much after 6th grade.

whiskeyriver December 16, 2012 at 10:43 am

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We are about the same age and I have the same problem. Maybe that’s why I quit after my freshman year, I wasn’t learning anything new anyway.

CO2Insanity December 16, 2012 at 12:13 pm

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My fave was my 10th grade auto shop class. The class consisted of the old fart senile teacher ranting and raving for the entire class abut how we were punks and how he was going to get us. He’d really get himself fired up.

One day he was yelling at us and his upper plate fell out on the floor. I think we all laughed for about a half hour. I still chuckle about it over 40 years later. Shortly after he had a heart attack. No one missed him.

Then we got a ‘real’ auto shop teacher. This guy proceeded to make a production of showing us how to energize a generator even though cars by then were using alternators. The rest of the class consisted of him usually telling us how wonderful he was. We never worked on an actual car at all. Fortunately my dad was a mechanic and I already knew my way around cars and motorcycles (used to race moto-x) anyway.

Then we had my 9th grade PE teacher. He got fired for throwing a desk at a student he got PO’ed at.

I think my 9th grade art teacher was on drugs all the time. He constantly looked stoned and would play rock music all day long while staring off into space.

My 12th grade PE teacher almost fainted when I broke my collarbone when I missed a tackle. I wandered over pulled my shirt down and the bone was sticking up. I said “coach, I think I broke something.” After that the curmudgeon only gave me a B for the semester.

I really have no memories of good teachers in high school. The “good” ones at best were mediocre.

The last real teacher I had was in 6th grade. The one’s in 7th and 8th were OK, but nothing to write home to mama about.

poppajoe49 December 16, 2012 at 2:38 pm

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Well, you’re 4 years older than me.
My favorite high school teacher was actually not my teacher, but he was the cousin of one of the girls in my English class.
I was walking to school one day and he pulled over and offered me a ride. He was smoking a joint! I got high for free for months on the way to school.
He finally got fired when he got caught smoking with 6 other kids behind the cafeteria.

CO2Insanity December 16, 2012 at 2:41 pm

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‘Smokin’ in the boys room….smokin’ in the boys room!’

Sidekick December 15, 2012 at 11:48 pm

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I’ll up the ante because I am awake with the thoughts of all that has happened. The only reason the media and gun grabber furor is as stoked up is because the people getting killed are the wrong ones. How many black kids have been mowed down in Chicago this year? Not a legitimate peep out of the MSM other than the token “shame of it all” platitudes. Why? Because then the liberals would have to concede that all of their social engineering, cultural decay, and moral relevancy contribute to the crime and disregard for life.

I have not watched one second of TV coverage of this tragedy. It is bad enough just to read about it. I mentioned on another thread that my uncle is a priest in Sandy Hook. He spoke to my mother earlier who then relayed to me the conversation. Not a lot of detail but suffice to say that the suffering is unimaginable. To you Not So Silent and Deepthnker, I don’t know how you guys do it. Just thinking about what the inside of that school must have looked like is bad enough, that your peers had to see it firsthand is a whole other thing.

poppajoe49 December 16, 2012 at 12:19 am

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I don’t think it could have been stated any better.
The leftist agenda isn’t advanced by the truth.

Not so silent December 16, 2012 at 9:40 am

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You deal with it. I have seen a lot of homicides in my Time, and a lot of human cruelty. It just never ends. You of course become jaded to the suspects since they are master bullshitters, and if your any good at this business you try and do what you can for the victims, problem is a lot of the victim’s in places like Stockton are NOT real victims. The homicides I saw there were over drugs, women, disrespect and gang related. Once in a while you have the truly random one.

A couple years before I started in Stockton there was the Cleveland School Shooting, 17 dead or injured, I don’t remember the exact figure. I met a student from that school that became a cop as a direct result of that incident, he worked for the School District Police for a while.

Sorry I got kinda off track. You deal with this by going into the Jack Friday kinda thing while your dealing with it. Once you get away you let your emotions get the best of you. We are trained to react and control a situation as best we can without emotion. Some guys see stuff that haunts them the rest of their career. I have the benefit of family and friends outside of work, plus a couple great police chaplains that are among my best friends. Sometimes you need to talk to someone. Cops have to deal with incidents like this and keep their wits about them. That’s what we get paid to do.

There are times I don’t tell my family what I have seen or did at work that day, There is no reason to expose them to all of it. And my kids and grandkids don’t need to hear it either. They grow up so fast anyway and get exposed to way more crap than we did.

This had an effect on me, First thing I thought of was all the training we went thru after Columbine. In most situations you wait out the suspect and negotiate for the hostages. In schools, you put together a team, and you seek out and try to neutralize the threat as fast as you can.

Some of the training we had involved real students, and we used simunition in our weapons to go after the shooter. Imagine yourself in a school where people are running everywhere, screaming, yelling, crying and you go to assess and seek out the shooter who could be heavily armed. It’s one hell of a task. And in one of our training’s we have victims with fake blood, and moulage injuries. When I found the shooter I was carrying an M-4 Rifle, I shot the suspect 21 times, fired till my weapon was empty, Never done that in training before, and I am damn sure it was the first time in my career I wanted vengeance in the worst possible way, and then I find out it is a common reaction with officers in that situation, something about killing someone who hurts kids. I found out afterward I had been hit by friendly fire in the vest. (different color paintballs which is basically what simunition is) I was so jacked up I don’t know when it happened.

This guy killed his mother took her weapons (which is kinda strange for a teacher to own assault rifles) and was hell bent on doing damage, and he took the cowards way out by shooting himself. That’s what really gets you down, there is no opportunity to “eliminate” him.

We will talk about this in great detail at work I am sure, probably more active shooter drills and stuff, but there will always be crazies who do things like this, whether it’s with a gun, or car, or knife or bomb…Blaming the gun here is not going to do any good, and I can’t even begin to try an figure out how anyone can kill children. Even with my profile training this is one out of my league.

Funny because tomorrow my department has our quarterly firearms training and I am their rangemaster. I have been thinking about altering the training are adding some, but for this go around I think we will talk. Several agencies near us want to get together for more active shooter training so I am sure that will now be speeded up.

Sorry I go so long winded.

whiskeyriver December 16, 2012 at 10:06 am

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No problem Silent, that’s what friends are for.

poppajoe49 December 16, 2012 at 10:26 am

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That’sool, it was interesting to read.

Sidekick December 16, 2012 at 12:00 pm

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Thanks and you have my total respect. That goes for Deepthinker too.

Not so silent December 16, 2012 at 12:26 pm

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Thank you gentlemen…But it is a job, a job that has some weird parts to it, but a job none the less…..I am sure whatever you do is just as important and also has it’s risks. I never looked at it like it was a higher calling, I just had a desire to catch creeps and keep them from harming the innocent.

RobertW December 16, 2012 at 12:33 pm

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I just had a desire to catch creeps and keep them from harming the innocent

me too, but you’re doing it legally.
well, so long as you don’t violate the perps’ rights to due justice.

oh look officer a bird.
(curb-service perp) huh, why lookie that fella done tripped on the curb. tsk tsk tsk
just the facts ma’am.