Dont Let Them Fool You into Thinking Allah’s Laws are Backwards. No wonder muslims are so angry. Who would want more than one spouse at a time?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7irThS_T_Y&feature=player_embedded

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Jessica February 10, 2012 at 6:39 pm

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Whatever helps you sleep at night, sister (which must include that comfy sheet you exist under). How do they cross the street??? Oh, riiiiight. She’s not allowed outside. One of the many other beautiful laws Allah has created for women.

KimmyQueen February 10, 2012 at 7:36 pm

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Girlfriend your brain has been washed and it is not a good look.

Doc Savage February 11, 2012 at 4:22 am

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Fat, ugly and no face is a terrible way to go through life. The full head gear probably spares us from having our eyeballs melt!

KimmyQueen February 11, 2012 at 2:55 pm

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LOL

Always Sunny In Hell February 10, 2012 at 7:56 pm

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When she talks about how men should be allowed to marry more than one woman because so many women can’t find a good husband or a non-abusive relationship, she seems to neglect the fact that if Muslim laws weren’t so strict towards women she wouldn’t HAVE to find a good man…. She could go find a job, take care of her kids on her own or even (and I know this sounds crazy) but drive a car!!!

perlcat February 10, 2012 at 8:49 pm

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BIGAMY, n. A mistake in taste for which the wisdom of the future will adjudge a punishment called trigamy. — Ambrose Bierce, “The Devil’s Dictionary”

flashingscotsman February 11, 2012 at 9:00 am

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She can’t find a good man that’s not abusive, because her choices are limited to Islamic men. Most of them would prefer a goat or a small boy over this thing.

Continue February 11, 2012 at 1:36 am

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Polygamy? How stupid! That’s definitely not fair and balanced! Everyone knows there’s only one true religion: mine! My marriage is monogamous and it works mostly! So everyone who has a different way doesn’t succeed in anything! We should spread our beliefs to the rest of the world because their ways will never work the way I want it to!

FormerlyDeanH February 11, 2012 at 1:42 am

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You are a funny cont!

poppajoe49 February 11, 2012 at 8:15 pm

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More like a stupid cont.

KimmyQueen February 11, 2012 at 8:17 pm

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Another Olivia “personality” or just another troll. I laugh at trolls and thumb ‘em down. They are not to be fed, they are worst than stray dogs.

Doc Savage February 11, 2012 at 4:18 am

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The face that launched a thousand missiles! What a body! What hair! Those ruby lips! How would we even know if she’s a he? Stop muslims now. This is a political power movement masquerading as a religion. ALL muslims have ONE goal, even that nice little goat-herder down the street! To eradicate, kill, mutilate, torture and murder ALL JEWS AND ALL CHRISTIANS! Of course the DemonRats actually believed they’ll be spared but I think I can get you front row tickets on Stub-Hub for the beheading of Matt Lauer, Brian Williams and Diane Sawyer. BYOB!

Continue February 11, 2012 at 11:29 am

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I agree! There is ansolutely no way Judaism and Christianity can be a political power movement masquerading as a religion! The bible makes no reference of either of them tied with government anywhere! No nation is under our Christian God as far as we know. There are no Jews and Christians in political positions! All Muslims are extremists! You’ll never see Christians overreacting like that. So what if Jesus is the number one quoted prophet in the Quran! That doesn’t mean theyre not dangerous! Christianity is FAIR AND BALANCED!

KimmyQueen February 11, 2012 at 3:05 pm

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When human beings claim to speak for G-d and they aren’t and create a country that is ruled by the rules of the religion in question that is a human led theocracy and that is a disaster. We saw this in the ancient scriptures from the Jewish side, we also saw it on the Christian side thanks to people like Henry the VIII and the Papal Emperors and we are seeing it NOW (as it was back in the day) through Islam. If indeed we have seen that human led theocracies are disasters why continue to do it?

Thankfully Judaism and Christianity got the memo, hence why for the past few centuries we have not had human led Judaic or Christian theocratic empires. What we got instead are freedoms of religions and worship and other freedoms that are protected in order for everyone to enjoy their lives as long as they obey elementary laws. It seems though that Islam did not get the memo or it did and chooses to ignore it, thinking perhaps that a world wide caliphate will succeed where other religious (and other philosophies like socialism and communism) empires failed.

Your rant there is illogical, because we don’t have Judaic nor Christian theocracies. Whatever abuses and problems that arose from those are now done and paid for. They have been corrected. They no longer exist and they are for a lack of better words: ancient histories. Islamic theocracies and the abuses happening are happening RIGHT NOW. Going on a rant about how Christianity is bad is stupid, you are not solving a problem that is happening now, you are making excuses for it, which makes you the problem and hence you are an idiot. You are a lying idiot.

Continue February 11, 2012 at 3:19 pm

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Me? A conservative Christian? A lying idiot? Never! Every other religion besides mine is wrong! I mean look at Buddhism! They never let people believe what they want! This world is being taken over by PAGANS!!!

KimmyQueen February 11, 2012 at 3:36 pm

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Actually Buddhism, behind Islam, is one of the most repressive religions in the world. The Kingdom of Bhutan (Buddhist country) is one of the most repressive countries for Christian and other non buddhist in the world. The persecution of Christians in that country is astonishing and it is so in other countries as well…

Search for Tibet persecution of Christians or, Sri Lanka, Burma, Laos as well as the Kingdom of Bhutan and you shall see. Of course if you are not afraid to read the news. Just one snippet:

COUNTRY

Sri Lanka

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In May 2009, the government finally defeated the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, ending more than 20 years of violence. Sri Lanka’s constitution gives preference to Buddhism but grants freedom of religion to all. Less than 1% of the population is Protestant. Of the 76 people groups in Sri Lanka, 63 are unreached by the gospel.

Category: Hostile Nation
Religion: Buddhist 70.0%, Hindu 12.8%, Muslim 8.5%, Christian 8.4%
Ideology: Buddhism
Head of State: President Mahinda Percy Rajapaksa

“The persecution of Christians, including violence and hate propaganda, has escalated in Sri Lanka in recent years with the rise of militant Buddhist nationalist groups. Although the constitution guarantees religious freedom, minority Protestants have experienced violent persecution as well as discrimination in employment and education. An anti-conversion law is awaiting legislative approval. The law would make evangelism punishable by up to seven years in prison. In February 2011, a pastor and his family were attacked in their home. The attacker was arrested but later released with only a severe warning and the requirement that he apologize to the pastor.”

http://www.persecution.com/public/restrictednations.aspx?country_ID=NDQ%3d

Your histeria is laughable by the way. Now that I think about it, your tactics and stupidity has a whiff of Olivia to it. You might be yet another pathetic Olivia creation. I have now read other posts by you and you are not a rational person at all. So you are a lemming troll. How unfortunate and pathetic. Since I have made it my business not to deal with pathetic lemming trolls anymore, this will be my second and last post to you. It is impossible to speak to trolls. Goodbye troll!

It seems that trolls do not know how to read and comprehend, I don’t speak to trolls nor do I respond to trolls so trolls waste their time posting replies to me. All I do is laugh and thumb down.

Olivia February 11, 2012 at 3:40 pm

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Your histeria is laughable by the way. Now that I think about it, your tactics and stupidity has a whiff of Olivia to it. You might be yet another pathetic Olivia creation. I have now read other posts by you and you are not a rational person at all.
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No, Kimmy, I post only under one name. It ought to be obvious to you that I’m not timid about presenting my views, and I’m not very interested in popularity ratings, so why would I even need more than one screen name to express them?

I can see why you wouldn’t appreciate Continue, but I’m getting kind of a chuckle out of him/her. ;)

poppajoe49 February 11, 2012 at 8:17 pm

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Actually Kimmy, cont. is Conservative Republican posting under yet another name. He admitted it on another thread.

KimmyQueen February 11, 2012 at 8:19 pm

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???

poppajoe49 February 11, 2012 at 8:37 pm

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He was posting under the name Conservative Republican.
He’s as conservative as Obama.

KimmyQueen February 11, 2012 at 10:00 pm

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Oh I see…

Olivia February 11, 2012 at 8:56 pm

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Actually Kimmy, cont. is Conservative Republican posting under yet another name. He admitted it on another thread.
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That seems highly unlikely, given that he was obviously ridiculing popular right wing attitudes. ;)

poppajoe49 February 11, 2012 at 9:04 pm

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If you’d STFU and actually read the posts by Conservative Republican before opening your pie hole, you would know that his posting style is exactly the same.

Stupid bitch.

FormerlyDeanH February 11, 2012 at 9:13 pm

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poppajoe49 February 11, 2012 at 2:30 pm
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Oh, so you’re the smartsss that the Editor banned the other day for constantly cursing.
Bye, I’m sure you’ll be gone soon.

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drb February 11, 2012 at 5:09 pm
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you got it Poppa.

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poppajoe49 February 11, 2012 at 2:28 pm
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He’s a real dumb Cont.

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No, I don’t know who that was. You might know me as Conservative Republican. Which I am! For life! You changed my way of seeing things.

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poppajoe49 February 11, 2012 at 6:56 pm
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OK, I had you confused with another asshole.

poppajoe49 February 11, 2012 at 9:21 pm

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Let’s not confuse her with more facts.
Just like the comment she made “gas prices tripled under Bush”, and I posted proof that they went up 32 cents a gallon under Bush in 8 years, and almost doubled under Obama in 3 years.

http://www.ihatethemedia.com/exshell-oil-exec-ready-for-some-5-gas-this-year#comment-156979

FormerlyDeanH February 11, 2012 at 9:24 pm

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Tripled under bush? Maybe in france.

poppajoe49 February 11, 2012 at 9:25 pm

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LOL

andre February 13, 2012 at 5:58 am

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How can you be that stupid and still live?

poppajoe49 February 13, 2012 at 7:52 am

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Breathing is an involuntary reflex.

Olivia February 11, 2012 at 3:37 pm

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When human beings claim to speak for G-d
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You mean like Newt, claiming that his history of dumping sick wives for later models isn’t a problem because God forgave him?
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and they aren’t and create a country that is ruled by the rules of the religion in question that is a human led theocracy and that is a disaster.
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You mean like right wing insistence that this nation was founded on “Christian” principles, so it’s okay to use federal law to force Christian teachings and traditions on everyone?

Olivia February 11, 2012 at 9:33 pm

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Tripled under bush? Maybe in france.
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No, in this area of the country (Chicago), gas went up to $4.25 per gallon at its peak, under Bush. It was under $1.40 when he took office.

You didn’t even notice, did you?—because you’re so eager to dump all the blame on Obama.

poppajoe49 February 11, 2012 at 9:57 pm

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No, I posted factual info from Consumer Reports, you posted your fantasy.

http://www.ihatethemedia.com/exshell-oil-exec-ready-for-some-5-gas-this-year#comment-156979

poppajoe49 February 11, 2012 at 10:13 pm

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OK, so gas spiked for a couple of months in the summer of 2008, but it never maintained a steady high like it has under Obama, which has maintained a level above $3 since the end of Dec 2010. That is over a year of over $3 a gallon gas prices.
Plus, once again, Obama promised a steep increase in all energy prices. He has made this come true by restricting our ability to drill for our own oil, while sending billions to other countries so they can do what he won’t let us do. Every step of the way he has been obstructionist against our ability to become energy independent, all the while giving billions to solar companies that are going bankrupt because their technology isn’t working.
How much does it have to cost us before you will realize that he isn’t doing us any favors?

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPMR_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W

Olivia February 12, 2012 at 5:58 am

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Plus, once again, Obama promised a steep increase in all energy prices. He has made this come true by restricting our ability to drill for our own oil, while sending billions to other countries so they can do what he won’t let us do.
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That’s an oversimplified—and inaccurate—rationale, Poopajoe.

For one thing, that ultrapopular drill-baby-drill panacea would require a huge investment of funds, yet wouldn’t yield more oil for years.

For another, oil production is actually up, and the refineries currently in existence aren’t currently operating at peak capacity. http://energy.senate.gov/public/_files/OilPricesChart3.jpg

For still another, the global price of crude oil reflects instability in the nations that produce the majority of it (i.e., Middle Eastern countries), and is beyond our control. Even if we were to produce more oil, our total oil production capacity isn’t enough to change these figures.

And, finally, the right seems to be allergic to any suggestion that we should decrease our oil consumption in any way, preferring instead to demand that the government fix the problem.

Interesting that many of you scoff at the very idea of driving smaller or more fuel efficient vehicles; yet gripe about how much gasoline costs you. Yes, yes, I know; you run a business, and therefore have to consume more gasoline than people like me; but I don’t see you talking about making ANY changes in your routine, to cut down oil consumption. Quite the contrary.

poppajoe49 February 12, 2012 at 8:26 am

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Talk about oversimplified and inaccurate!
We were already drilling in the Gulf when Obumbles came into office, and he halted all drilling and also shut down all currently producing oil rigs. He killed the Canadian pipeline, and sent billions to Brazil so they could drill offshore, while preventing us from doing the same. He has also refused to allow any more refineries to be built. The current refineries don’t have the capacity to supply our needs, and can’t run at full capacity because they need constant maintenance to keep running. Then, there’s the new mandate to reduce sulfur in gasoline, which is making the refineries retool to meet the new requirements, which has slowed production and increased gas. costs by another 25 cents a gallon.

FormerlyDeanH February 12, 2012 at 8:39 am

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Shortly after mandating the moratorium on U.S. deepwater drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, solyndra gunwalker gave billions of taxpayer dollars to Mexico’s state controlled petroleum company, PEMEX, for THEIR deepwater oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Billions to Brazil for their offshore production as well as the stoppage of the XL are among myriad efforts to raise energy costs here and by extension, the cost of everything else that the citizens of the U.S. are already struggling to afford.

The argument that the global market dictates the price is misleading, since it never addresses how shipping costs add to the price of oil the US exports, as well as the enormous effect increasing the domestic supply would have. Increasing the supply would ‘necessarily’ reduce the price, and he cannot allow that!

Sidekick February 12, 2012 at 8:42 am

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Look at the chart in this link to see how far oil production has fallen since its peak in 1970.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2012/02/120210-us-oil-production-increasing/

FormerlyDeanH February 12, 2012 at 8:49 am

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Production has fallen to record lows while US exports went up to new record levels, while many people don’t drive anywhere much at all anymore because the price of fuel is so high that travelling is limited to only absolute necessities. That’s just wrong.

flashingscotsman February 12, 2012 at 12:29 pm

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Come on guys. All you got is facts? You’ll never convince My Dear Sweet Olivia of anything just using facts. Sheesh.

poppajoe49 February 12, 2012 at 8:30 am

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BTW. TURKEY TURDS!

Wayward February 11, 2012 at 3:31 pm

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“So what if Jesus is the number one quoted prophet in the Quran!”

I was thinking Muhammed the Pedophile. You know, the one that re-wrote the Bible to further his god’s theocratic take over of the world.

Progressive Hemrrhoid February 11, 2012 at 7:28 am

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The religion of peace, once again rears it’s ugly head.

toocoldinwa February 11, 2012 at 7:30 am

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Looks like eyes of a guy. Must be their version of KKK headgear.

Olivia February 11, 2012 at 9:54 am

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Classic right wingnut response: fling a bunch of stupid stereotypes, insults and ignorant misconceptions instead of actually listening to what she’s got to say.

Why would you be afraid to listen to her? Some of you seemed to be scared silly of Islam….wouldn’t it make more sense to LEARN something about your perceived enemy, rather than just making wild guesses? ;)

Always Sunny In Hell February 11, 2012 at 11:30 am

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Ive spent a little time in a mosque because I am an Atheist but I like to inform myself of all religions. I was mostly interested in Islam right after 9/11 because I looked around and saw all this blind fear. (Around my house someone rammed a car into the mosque I actually visited to gain my knowledge.)

What I saw when I went was a lot of acceptance because I was a man, and I can elaborate on that a little even… I was so impressed by the reception I received that I went to my fiance (Now wife) and asked her if she would like to come with me to learn a little about the religion. She was excited and a lil nervous but decided to come anyways. The reception she received was less than kind. She was not allowed to even talk to me once we entered the mosque (Because women were too sacred to be talked to be us dirty men, even though we were the ones talking about the philosophy of the whole religion) but even after that we continued to listen to what they had to say.
This went on for a month or two (twice a week or so) until I was finally asked by the Imam if I would like to join the religion because I had learned enough to make my decision. I told him that I loved the people and the friends that I had made but I still wanted more time and information. From that day forward their attitude towards me completely changed. People who used to come over and talk to me about philosophy would look at me and walk the other way. Until I finally stopped going, I was upset honestly because I thought I had made so actual friends in that religion, but it turns out if I wasn’t interested in being a Muslim, I wasn’t interesting enough to waste any more time on :(

Olivia February 11, 2012 at 3:33 pm

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People who used to come over and talk to me about philosophy would look at me and walk the other way. Until I finally stopped going, I was upset honestly because I thought I had made so actual friends in that religion, but it turns out if I wasn’t interested in being a Muslim, I wasn’t interesting enough to waste any more time on :(
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That happens in a lot of Christian congregations, too. Sometimes it’s because members of the congregation lose interest in the person who’s not interested in joining; other times it’s because they don’t want to appear to be pressuring him/her.

GhostntheMachine February 12, 2012 at 3:24 pm

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And you know this how?

FormerlyDeanH February 12, 2012 at 3:35 pm

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Since I won’t click there to see, I’ll just chance an answer on behalf of mz. mizeree; tea leaves.

KimmyQueen February 11, 2012 at 3:48 pm

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In truth there are a lot of churches that do the same, I have had that same experience, but thankfully not all churches are like that in fact those experiences have been very few and very far in between. It can be due to the denomination in question or else the regional location (and the people within as to their culture and their color of skin, etc.) of the church. With that said, have you gone to many other mosques in other cities, then pretty much had that same experience? That is something to definetly explore. I as a woman couldn’t do it of course. Interestingly enough your fiancee WOULD HAVE no matter where (here, in other countries, in other states, it will not matter) the SAME EXACT experience that she had. That dude that went to a mosque for 30 days for a movie that he did or a show I think a few years ago he had a grand time, however he did because he had a camera crew with him and he went to just one mosque. I wonder if his experience would have been different if he was not there with a camera crew and was not famous. If I had money I would finance you to go to different mosques in different states and/or cities and see if your experience would be the same: after a time period if you decline acceptance and want to explore more would you be ignored… It would be fascinating.

If that experience is the same everywhere, that tells me there is something about the religion in of itself that is intrinsically wrong. Like I said depending on many factors, you would not have that experience in all christian churches of any denomination. Even though in pockets you can of course have that experience, but if you are white going to “white churches” perhaps not, but if you go to “black churches” perhaps yes the same for “asian churches”. I have been welcomed in some asian churches just fine and in others not so fine… I wonder how the experience would be for a black person in mosques as well… uhm… ahh if I had money I would have a good time financing this project indeed.

Olivia February 11, 2012 at 3:51 pm

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I have been welcomed in some asian churches just fine and in others not so fine… I wonder how the experience would be for a black person in mosques as well…
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Seeing that there are quite a few black Muslims in the U.S. and in African nations with a high black population, I would tend to guess that the experience isn’t generally bad. ;)

Always Sunny In Hell February 11, 2012 at 7:27 pm

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Yeah I have been to quite a few churches as well with the same such reaction,(Ever walked into a church and tell people you are an Atheist but looking for knowledge? Get a few weird looks :P) but I have never walked into any church and they told me I couldn’t talk to my fiance or any of the other women around.. That was the most shocking part, but the way they sold it made sense. “In Islam women are too sacred to talk to in this holy place, because we men are dirty and we cannot have impure thoughts in a place of worship.” Makes sense on the face of it, but that’s a way to not make you realize they just wanted them out of the conversations. The women had their own conversations, but my wife told me it was philosophy for about 15 minutes then talking about raising their families for the rest of the time. Where as the men would talk about the finer points of the Qur’an for 1 sometimes 2 hours.

Olivia February 11, 2012 at 8:16 pm

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Yeah I have been to quite a few churches as well with the same such reaction,(Ever walked into a church and tell people you are an Atheist but looking for knowledge? Get a few weird looks ) but I have never walked into any church and they told me I couldn’t talk to my fiance or any of the other women around..
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That’s also the practice in orthodox Jewish synagogues, traditional Eastern orthodox churches and some fundamentalist Christian churches. As for not being able to talk to your fiance, don’t forget that St. Paul directed women to be silent in church. Some denominations take that instruction more seriously than others.

Of course, such conservative practices aren’t everyone’s cup of tea, especially those who grew up in more informal church settings, or aren’t used to church at all. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t a place for them, or that it’s a bad religion overall.

KimmyQueen February 11, 2012 at 8:30 pm

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Getting weird looks is one thing, I have had worst. I don’t really care about that, I care about the part where you tell them that you need more time and then they pretty much freeze you out. That is a study I would like to finance.

That is of course a lame excuse for the women not talking to you and whatever. If it is your woman you should be able to talk to her. If it is another woman, what happened to self-control? What I heard is “we as muslim men think of sex all the time and have no self control.” Weak.

Olivia February 11, 2012 at 8:52 pm

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That is of course a lame excuse for the women not talking to you and whatever. If it is your woman you should be able to talk to her. If it is another woman, what happened to self-control? What I heard is “we as muslim men think of sex all the time and have no self control.” Weak.
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Do you also “hear” that Orthodox Jewish, Eastern Orthodox, Amish and Mennonite men “think of sex all the time and have no self control”? Because these religions and denominations also have a tradition of separating women from men.

In conservative Amish and Mennonite churches, as well as more conservative Catholic and Episcopal churches, people aren’t expected to chat with each other before or during the service. Not because they’re cold or unfriendly, but because, in those denominations, members of the congregation are expected to show reverence to God when in His presence.

Sounds to me as if you have a very narrow idea of how worship services should be conducted, and are rather judgmental toward those who don’t do things the way you expect.

sa_rose February 12, 2012 at 11:39 am

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I have NEVER been in a Catholic or Episcopal church or for that matter any THER denomination.that did not encourage people to chat with one another. In fact , Episocpalians generally have a coffee hour after the service for just such chatting. To talk and visit DURING THE SERVICE is disrespectful to the Service itself, and to the people around you. Even then, small asides, or comments are frequently made soto voce. Sunny indicated not abstaining from chatting during the service, but the entire time they were in Mosque. THAT is discriminatory toward women. Of course you wouldn’t see that.

Olivia February 12, 2012 at 6:12 pm

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I have NEVER been in a Catholic or Episcopal church or for that matter any THER denomination.that did not encourage people to chat with one another. In fact , Episocpalians generally have a coffee hour after the service for just such chatting.
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Rose, I’m talking about the service, not the coffee hour.
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To talk and visit DURING THE SERVICE is disrespectful to the Service itself, and to the people around you. Even then, small asides, or comments are frequently made soto voce.
Sunny indicated not abstaining from chatting during the service, but the entire time they were in Mosque.
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They have coffee hour after mosque services? Who knew? ;)
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THAT is discriminatory toward women. Of course you wouldn’t see that.
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Since I’m not Muslim, and have never experienced gender separation during worship services, I won’t presume to judge it. It does sound rather archaic, I grant you. (Although I’m a little confused why you’d say that maintaining silence within the mosque is “discriminatory” toward women, but not men.) But, then, so does the gender separation in Orthodox Jewish, Mennonite, Amish and Eastern Orthodox services.

The thing about religions is that, if we don’t like the way one church or mosque or synagogue or temple does things, we’re free to check out another more to our liking. Unless, of course, one happens to live in a very restrictive theocracy like Saudi Arabia. But it’s no more realistic to assume that all Muslim mosques follow Saudi Arabian practices, than it would be to assume that all Catholic churches are run like Cistercian abbeys.

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sa_rose February 12, 2012 at 10:43 pm

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I am trying. I am REALLY TRYING!!!!!

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Translation: “I’m incapable of defending my convictions to others, so I’d feel more comfortable expressing them only to people who can be counted on to agree with me.”

Poor Silent. Do you not realize that a conviction is worth nothing if it isn’t worth defending?

FormerlyDeanH February 13, 2012 at 5:37 am

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Remember, don’t be goaded into responding to the troll. It uses the same old stinking turds thrown to get a response. The translation service is its weakest chucker and when it resorts to that you have it against the wall. Leave it there. It will never stop trying to fire you up because that’s what good little communist pigs do. Leave it alone. It may never go away but it cannot win if you don’t engage it or feed it with a response. You already know it will toss the same old bag of shit at you to get what it needs. Don’t give it anything. Let it die and dry up.

poppajoe49 February 13, 2012 at 6:30 am

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it will toss the same old bag of shit

So, trolls and monkeys are of the same genus?

flashingscotsman February 13, 2012 at 9:57 am

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Monkeys are cute, though.

KimmyQueen February 13, 2012 at 10:03 am

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I have developed an anti-troll serum. Raise your hand if you want it. LOL.

poppajoe49 February 13, 2012 at 4:48 pm

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ME!!!!!

Wayward February 11, 2012 at 11:55 am

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You seem to be an independent woman. How can you defend what this brainwashed slave has to say?

Always Sunny In Hell said it best…
“When she talks about how men should be allowed to marry more than one woman because so many women can’t find a good husband or a non-abusive relationship, she seems to neglect the fact that if Muslim laws weren’t so strict towards women she wouldn’t HAVE to find a good man…. She could go find a job, take care of her kids on her own or even (and I know this sounds crazy) but drive a car!!!”

Couple of books written by women who have opened not only their eyes but those of many others…

“A God Who Hates: The Courageous Woman Who Inflamed the Muslim World Speaks Out Against the Evils of Islam”
Sultan, Wafa

“Because They Hate: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America”
Gabriel, Brigitte

You should open yours too.

GUNBOAT February 11, 2012 at 10:31 pm

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is that dumb donald from fat albert!? oh, it’s just a bee keeper…silly me.

Notsosilent February 12, 2012 at 8:55 am

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Another moron with a video camera….The Michael Moore of Bag Ladies….

poppajoe49 February 12, 2012 at 9:01 am

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But more talented than Moore.

Notsosilent February 12, 2012 at 9:11 am

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But we can’t see her double chins and large girth beneath the latest in Muslim lingerie…Perhaps Micheal should try a body bag….

Olivia February 12, 2012 at 9:23 am

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But we can’t see her double chins and large girth beneath the latest in Muslim lingerie…Perhaps Micheal should try a body bag….
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Obviously you feel quite threatened by Moore, that you should be entertaining fantasies of his death.

That’s pretty sad.

Notsosilent February 12, 2012 at 9:34 am

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Blah blah blah blah blah blah..this from the only certifiable nut case here…Yea I don’t want Moore’s Really FAT ass to sit on me by mistake….Your really trying aren’t you Ollie? I bet you like FAT guys huh…That your fantasy Ollie? A really fat guy wheezing his way into your life? by the way..TURDS!!!

Olivia February 13, 2012 at 6:01 am

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Blah blah blah blah blah blah..this from the only certifiable nut case here…Yea I don’t want Moore’s Really FAT ass to sit on me by mistake….Your really trying aren’t you Ollie? I bet you like FAT guys huh…That your fantasy Ollie? A really fat guy wheezing his way into your life? by the way..TURDS!!!
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You know, Silent, if you’re trying to prove that right wing extremists are smarter and more logical than liberals like me, you’re not doing a very effective job of it.

The above rant sounds like something a not-very-bright-or-secure seventh grader would say, in an effort to fit in with the cool kids. And in that situation, as this, it would backfire on him pretty badly.

poppajoe49 February 13, 2012 at 6:32 am

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TURKEY TURDS 2!!

sa_rose February 12, 2012 at 11:41 am

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The burka is frequently referred t by the perjorative “body bag.” Interesting that the first thing that came to YOUR mind was a death threat.

Olivia February 12, 2012 at 5:10 pm

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The burka is frequently referred t by the perjorative “body bag.” Interesting that the first thing that came to YOUR mind was a death threat.
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How odd. I’ve never heard of a burqa being referred to as a “body bag.” It doesn’t even look like a body bag. But, then again, I don’t spend a lot of time around people who ridicule other people’s religious and cultural traditions.

Notsosilent February 12, 2012 at 6:15 pm

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Nothing to see here folks, just thumb down and move along.

The Troll Patrol

And Turds….

KimmyQueen February 12, 2012 at 8:34 pm

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Thank you for your service!

sa_rose February 12, 2012 at 10:44 pm

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I won’t respond i won’t respond i won’t respond.. . .

Olivia February 13, 2012 at 6:04 am

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I won’t respond i won’t respond i won’t respond.. . .
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Rose, if you don’t choose to respond to my posts, then don’t. I promise you it won’t hurt my feelings a bit. But don’t you think it’s rather silly to take your marching orders from other posters, if they go against your own instincts?

poppajoe49 February 13, 2012 at 6:20 am

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TURKEY TURDS!!

Olivia February 12, 2012 at 9:21 am

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Production has fallen to record lows
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Could I see your source for that claim?
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while US exports went up to new record levels, while many people don’t drive anywhere much at all anymore because the price of fuel is so high that travelling is limited to only absolute necessities. That’s just wrong.
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First, that’s not really true, at least in my area of the country. The roads are just about as congested as they always are, and I see as many gas guzzlers on the road as we saw ten years ago.

And, second, no, that’s not “wrong.” There’s no constitutional right to cheap gas, so, if the cost of gas becomes prohibitive, the responsible thing to do is come up with ways of reducing fuel consumption. You guys hooted at me for owning a Smartcar, but it’s certainly one way of beating the higher costs of gasoline.

I do think it’s kind of amusing the way you complain that it’s “just wrong” not to be able to afford gasoline….when you showed so little concern about poor Americans not being able to afford to commute long distances to a job. Which is it going to be—-are high gasoline prices something that anyone who works hard enough ought to be able to overcome, or are they something that we should expect Nanny Government to fix, in order to save us some inconvenience? You can’t have it both ways.

Olivia February 12, 2012 at 9:25 am

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The argument that the global market dictates the price is misleading, since it never addresses how shipping costs add to the price of oil the US exports, as well as the enormous effect increasing the domestic supply would have. Increasing the supply would ‘necessarily’ reduce the price, and he cannot allow that!
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Not really true. The U.S. supply of oil is less than 2% of the total world supply, so even if we were to drill aggressively, it wouldn’t make much (if any) difference to the worldwide oil market.

poppajoe49 February 12, 2012 at 9:47 am

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If we were to drill aggressively we would have an effect on OUR oil prices. THAT’S what we’re talking about.

FormerlyDeanH February 12, 2012 at 9:57 am

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A statement on the sad condition of the country and the depth to which the anti-freedom movement of the progressives that anyone would even have to say that. Imagine increases in workforce, their output and market supply from the US citizenry enjoying $1.50 gallon gasoline. Hell, the outrageous insurance rates wouldn’t even matter too much anymore!

poppajoe49 February 12, 2012 at 10:04 am

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Insurance would drop like a rock if they would get all the uninsured illegals off the road.

flashingscotsman February 12, 2012 at 1:12 pm

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An uninsured illegal cost my insurance company nearly $3,000 dollars when he rammed the side of my truck with his car, nearly killing my girlfriend. What did the Highway Patrol do? Wrote him a ticket.

Olivia February 13, 2012 at 6:15 am

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If we were to drill aggressively we would have an effect on OUR oil prices. THAT’S what we’re talking about.
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As I already pointed out, oil prices are determined by the global market. Oil companies, like any other business, want top dollar for their product, and they’re not going to hand it out at bargain rates back home, just because people like you want to drive a gas guzzler without having to pay much to fill the tank.

poppajoe49 February 13, 2012 at 6:20 am
Olivia February 12, 2012 at 10:12 am

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Author: poppajoe49
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If we were to drill aggressively we would have an effect on OUR oil prices. THAT’S what we’re talking about.
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Not really true. The price of crude oil is determined by world market prices, and the U.S. doesn’t have big enough oil deposits to make much of a difference there. And, after all, that (as is typical with the far right) would only delay the inevitable. We need to focus on DEMANDING less fossil fuel, rather than just looking for quick and easy ways of getting bargains at the gas pump.

Notsosilent February 12, 2012 at 10:31 am

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All right folks, nothing to see here, thumb down and move along..thank you.

“The Troll Patrol”

KimmyQueen February 12, 2012 at 11:37 am

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I dont understand why people are not doing that. Do not feed the troll. Do people want the troll around? Is this some kind of a necessity for a pet or something? The troll replies thumb down and move along, do not speak to it, do not try to instruct it, it is a troll. Come on folks!

MGAP February 12, 2012 at 1:17 pm

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I’m in. I got all of the “troll love” out of my system yesterday. I feel much better now.

poppajoe49 February 13, 2012 at 6:18 am

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Sorry Kimmy, but I have this overwhelming need to educate the hopelessly inane.

drb February 13, 2012 at 10:07 am

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Step away from the troll…

KimmyQueen February 13, 2012 at 10:08 am

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It is a habit that I hope you can break soon. I have come to understand that instructing fools is not worthy of time. Once a troll has had a year to see the light and refuses to do so it is time to smoke the troll out and let the troll speak to itself.

Elrond Hubbard February 12, 2012 at 2:22 pm

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“We need to focus on DEMANDING less fossil fuel…

Yes, and watch energy prices “necessarily skyrocket”. Who said that?
Was is Barack Obama?

Yes, it was.

poppajoe49 February 13, 2012 at 5:55 am

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Not really true. The price of crude oil is determined by world market prices, and the U.S. doesn’t have big enough oil deposits to make much of a difference there.

Wrong again! If the oil isn’t placed on the world market, then the price would be determined by cost of acquisition and desired profit.
Since we are trying to be energy independant, we would be like Chavez. He charges his people what it really costs to produce the oil, and sells the rest to others at market prices.
The fewer middlemen, the lower the price. When it goes directly from producer to consumer, it costs less. Basic economics that elude you.

FormerlyDeanH February 13, 2012 at 6:06 am

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While the global market influences the prices, domestic refining and transportation, among other things, makes it profitable to sell here without additional costs associated with exportation, as long as the government allows it, of course.

Olivia February 13, 2012 at 6:17 am

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While the global market influences the prices, domestic refining and transportation, among other things, makes it profitable to sell here without additional costs associated with exportation, as long as the government allows it, of course.
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And you think the oil companies want to sell you gasoline at a bargain rate, at the expense of their own profit potential, because……..?

poppajoe49 February 13, 2012 at 6:43 am

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Because they only make pennies on the gallon now. The government is the single biggest profiteer when it comes to fuel.
If we do start producing enough of our own fuel to drive the price down, look for the government to raise fuel taxes.

Olivia February 13, 2012 at 9:00 am

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Because they only make pennies on the gallon now. The government is the single biggest profiteer when it comes to fuel.
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No, it’s the gas station owners, not oil companies, who make pennies on the gallon, Poopajoe.

In fact, oil company profits are much greater today than they were a few years ago. What’s more, oil companies are using their own profits to repurchase their own stock, thereby driving up profits still more. (Even if you don’t agree with the editorial here, take a look at the graphs:
http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2012/02/08/421061/big-oil-higher-prices-record-profits-less-oil/)

It’s very naive of you to suppose that oil companies are struggling along, and that it’s Big Bad Obama who’s driving up the price of gas. No multibillion dollar industry gets to BE a multibillion dollar industry by eschewing profit potential, in favor of being nice guys to consumers.

Sidekick February 13, 2012 at 9:34 am

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http://www.dailymarkets.com/economy/2011/04/27/gasoline-taxes-vs-exxon-profit-per-gallon/

http://jb-williams.com/4-25-06.htm

http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/29/news/companies/big-oil-gas-price-response/index.htm

Oil companies make anywhere from $.02 to $.07 per gallon of gasoline. However, they have lots of other income streams so their overall revenues are high. So are their risks and expenses.

More domestic production should influence global spot prices because supply will be added without a correlating spike in demand. On the other hand, OPEC and other suppliers may roll back their production if we were to get to that 9 million barrels per day rate we had 40 years ago. That figure represents about 10% of global daily usage. A huge amount compared to the 4%-5% we now produce.

The government is indeed the biggest profiteer of gasoline sales. The federal government alone takes $.184 per gallon. Tack on state and local taxes and it is likely that you are paying $.35 or more in additional taxes.

Some argue that we only have 2.5% of the world’s proven reserves. True but the potential for undiscovered oil is huge on and off shore and the new fracking technologies promise far more potential for new supply. Also 2.5% of a lot is a lot, if you take my meaning. The world is not going to run out of oil soon.

http://www.eia.gov/oil_gas/natural_gas/data_publications/crude_oil_natural_gas_reserves/cr.html

Natural gas has a much greater chance of being the “alternative” energy solution in the US. It is more than abundant, proven technologically, relatively cheap, and burns cleanly.

The wind and solar industries are financial nonstarters in the real world or they could and would compete without government support.

drb February 13, 2012 at 9:36 am

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Ima smack you! >(

Sidekick February 13, 2012 at 9:55 am

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That was a direct response to poppajoe. Nothing more and nothing less

drb February 13, 2012 at 10:06 am

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Yeah, I realized that after I posted.

Sidekick February 13, 2012 at 12:47 pm

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S’alright

poppajoe49 February 13, 2012 at 3:23 pm

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Kick, you’re preaching to the choir.
But I would have attacked the thinkprogress link if I had gotten here sooner.
Stupidity annoys me.
Thanks for saving me time.

Sidekick February 13, 2012 at 3:25 pm

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I was only commenting on your post, which I found interesting and decided to dig into the numbers a bit.

poppajoe49 February 13, 2012 at 4:22 pm

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Yes, I researched this quite a while ago. At that time the government was getting about 53 cents a gallon in tax revenue and Exxon was making 8 cents. The retailers were making between 2 and 5 cents a gallon.
Regardless of who you get the info from, the numbers are pretty much the same, unless a lying, leftard website like thinkprogress is telling the story, then you can count on some of the most outrageous lies ever told.

sa_rose February 12, 2012 at 11:47 am

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Back to the subject at hand (thanks for blowing up the thread on something irrelevant to the story Olivia.) The woman in the tape sounds like an American Black. WSO why does she refer to the “west” like whe isn’t part of it. THe only point she made (which was evne then partly erroneous) was that some Mormons are being allowed to practice polygyny, which is supposedly illegal in the US. WHY are we not prosecuting these people? The larger Mormon church gave up polygyny over a century ago, so its not really “religious belief” its just personal preference. And any other guy who tried to marry 3-4 women wouldbe in a legal world of trouble.

Olivia February 13, 2012 at 10:24 am

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Author: Sidekick
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http://www.dailymarkets.com/economy/2011/04/27/gasoline-taxes-vs-exxon-profit-per-gallon/

http://jb-williams.com/4-25-06.htm

http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/29/news/companies/big-oil-gas-price-response/index.htm

Oil companies make anywhere from $.02 to $.07 per gallon of gasoline. However, they have lots of other income streams so their overall revenues are high. So are their risks and expenses.
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But they’re still realizing very decent profits.

Meanwhile, the right is defending these companies, and blaming Obama for high gasoline prices. Apparently they think that taxing gasoline sales is some brand new phenomenon dreamed up by Obama, and that public highways and bridges magically build and maintain themselves.

__UPDATE: FactCheck.org examined the claim that ExxonMobil earns just 7 cents on a gallon of gas and concluded that “the 7-cents-per-gallon figure grossly underestimates the industry’s earnings. It includes only earnings from the sale of gasoline and not earnings on producing and selling crude oil. There are no independent figures on how much oil companies earn on a gallon of gasoline.” FactCheck.org further wrote:

We called ExxonMobil and asked how Cohen arrived at his figure. Spokeswoman Kristen Hellmer said it was determined by dividing ExxonMobil’s “downstream earnings ($694 million) by the number of gallons of gasoline and other products refined and sold during the quarter in the U.S. (9,355 million gallons). The result is 7.4 cents per gallon.” Downstream earnings are what the company earns from refining crude oil into gasoline and other petroleum products and then selling it. But that ignores “upstream earnings,” which is how much Exxon earns in producing and selling crude oil. And the cost of oil exceeded $100 a barrel in the first quarter of 2011.

Oil industry analyst [Tom] Kloza called the 7-cents-per-gallon figure “disingenuous,” because it ignores high earnings from oil production. “Bringing crude oil to market has been incredibly profitable,” Kloza said. “It is disingenuous to say in the downstream we are making only this much.”

ExxonMobil reported that its upstream earnings were $8.7 billion in the first quarter — up $2.9 billion, or 49 percent, compared with a year ago. As of August 2010, it was the third largest oil refiner in the U.S.