HOUSE GOP LEADERS PURGED CONSERVATIVES USING SECRET CRITERIA LIST. If you read the headline with GOP and Conservatives removed, we bet you’d assume the Democrats did this. It’s getting very hard to separate the D’s from the R’s anymore.

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Ruben December 4, 2012 at 7:19 pm

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I think the GOP leaders have relegated themselves to having lost the war for the soul of our nation.

They’re parachuting out of trying to save the middle class. They’ve got theirs and, apparently they’re taking a sort of “let ‘em eat cake” attitude.

I suppose, when I’m waiting on their tables someday, I’ll get back at them by urinating in their champaign.

Sidekick December 4, 2012 at 7:37 pm

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I’ve pretty well accepted the fact that virtually every prediction I make on this board concerning Obama and the GOP leadership is wrong but I’m going to take another stab at it: Boehner will cave. Taxes will go up for the highest earners, no spending cuts will occur, Medicare will not be fixed, Obamacare will roll down on us like like an Alpine avalanche, by 2020 the US will struggle to fulfill its financial obligations and we will see a collapse of the economy and monetary system. Yet Boehner will claim victory for having avoided the cliff.

Alien December 4, 2012 at 8:07 pm

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ah it’s fun to prognosticate… sign of a healthy mind, attempting to model the future. I have friends who think Boehner won’t deal but I think you are closer to the mark. I don’t expect collapse down the road, but instead stalled economy and decades of inflation. Just hopefully they use some of that to burn off some debt. (Eh, they won’t)

Sidekick December 4, 2012 at 8:15 pm

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Oh, I’m certain that he’ll deal. Though he shouldn’t. The GOP doesn’t compete well in the arena of ideas because they articulate their positions poorly and the media is against them. I see a monetary collapse followed by a rapid revaluing. Fiat currencies are not known for their long lasting durability.

Alien December 4, 2012 at 8:35 pm

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Do you think our security arrangements with the Saudis will end anytime soon? I only learned recently that Nixon basically set this up to underpin the dollar when he let it float. Not all fiat currencies are built on global markets, so we enjoy advantage there..and Iran looms large over the Gulf and Arabian Peninsula.

Sidekick December 4, 2012 at 8:50 pm

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I think it will. In fact, I would not be shocked to learn that they are quietly ensuring Israel’s survival by reining in Egypt and other unstable countries in order to keep favor with us. That being said, they are not our friends and they are very nervous about our new found ability to frack with great success and our move toward natural gas of which we are like Saudi Arabia in terms of abundance. Once that threat becomes real, I think we will see an interesting dilemma emerge in how we go forward with them. It also depends on whether or not the royal family endures.

As for the dollar, now that Asia is becoming a mega trading bloc (the Phnom Penh agreement) without US participation, our currency will not necessarily remain the reserve currency. That in combination with our own fiscal insanity leads to me the conclusion about a monetary collapse.

Alien December 4, 2012 at 9:17 pm

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Good call on the ASEAN development.. I totally missed that was moving forward. Well shite, then.. I’ve been hearing that we will continue to secure the Persian Gulf trade, despite the fact that our share of crude coming out of there is dropping precipitously, while China’s & other Asian nations increases. This would still be necessary to secure the global market. Losing the reserve currency would only layer insult on this injury

poppajoe49 December 5, 2012 at 5:54 am

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Gee Sidekick, you’re being awful optimistic, aren’t you?

Sidekick December 5, 2012 at 6:09 am

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I’m running out of reasons to be optimistic, PJ. We are truly and well screwed. Romney’s loss regardless of the reasons for it was a disaster for this country. Unless you consider being like Europe a success.

The President, with a lot of help from the far left, is doing EXACTLY what he said he would do. Transform the country. Sadly the greedy, the uninformed, and the uneducated were too stupid or too disinterested to ask what he meant by that. Once the free shit started coming at rates never before been seen, those same people were all in for this new America. Me? I’m f**king disgusted.

drb December 5, 2012 at 7:02 am

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I’m right there with ya, Kick.

poppajoe49 December 5, 2012 at 7:23 am

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Me 3

RobertW December 5, 2012 at 8:38 am

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call me when y’all get around to taking up arms against the tyrants.

poppajoe49 December 5, 2012 at 5:44 pm

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I’m armed, and have hell of a stockpile of ammo, long shelf life foods, water, propane, and other survival needs.
I’m set for a good long battle.

Progressive Hemrrhoid December 4, 2012 at 9:00 pm

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You will do as you are told, until the rights to you are sold. Having a spine dosen’t seem to be part of the conservative platform.

ncdave4life December 4, 2012 at 9:40 pm

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“Conservatives?” Really??

Almost every Republican claims to be conservative. Words are cheap. Here in NC, for instance, we have “Little Walter” Jones, and he, for one, is no conservative.

David Schweikert and Justin Amash are apparently Rontards, and Amash has apparently earned a reputation as a loose cannon: e.g., though pro-life, he voted against banning sex-selection abortions, and he lambasted the Republican leadership over the issue.

My guess: it’s probably the guys who wanted the federal gov’t to default on the debt, rather than raise the debt ceiling, who’re being shunted aside on the financial committees. If so, I wouldn’t call that “conservative.”

Dave

drb December 5, 2012 at 3:13 am

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You’re right about that…jones the younger was a democrat until 1994 when he switched parties and took over his father’s (a life long democrat) district. 3rd district is heavily democrat. Gee, I wonder why he has consistanly voted along the democrat party lines?

RobertW December 5, 2012 at 6:20 am

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though pro-life, he voted against banning sex-selection abortions, and he lambasted the Republican leadership over the issue.

let me get this straight, you mean to say that there was a push to be able to selectively abort little babies based on there gender? First i’ve heard of this (if it’s what it sounds like) in America. What’s next? Allowing homosexuals to construe lust as love and granting them a marriage certificate? man oh man, what has happened to my country?
probly all began when ppl started feeling sorry for that adulteress whatshisname glorified.

ncdave4life December 5, 2012 at 7:51 am

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Sex-selection abortions are already legal in the USA. Some women wait until they find out what sex their baby is, and then abort if it’s not what they want. The vote was on an unsuccessful attempt to ban that practice.

All but 7 House Republicans voted to ban it. Justin Amash and Ron Paul were two of the 7 who voted against banning it.

Since my last msg, I did some more investigation. Conclusion: the Rontards are lying again. (So what else is new?)

The fact is that John Boehner is much more conservative than Ron Paul, or any of these other so-called conservatives, with the possible exception of Schweikert.

Boehner has a lifetime ACU rating of 90%, and a 100% NRTLC rating 11 years in a row. Americans for Prosperity, Concerned Women for America, the American Family Association, and the NRA all likewise score him 100%.

Ron Paul does generally worse. Though he got 96% from the ACU, he had a 100% NRTLC rating only 4 of 11 years, dropping as low as 56% in 2005-2006. AFP rated him 95% last year, but his CWfA rating averaged only 77% over 9 years, his NRA lifetime score is 67%, and his average AFA score is a miserable 49%.

Amash is worse yet: NRTLC 71%, CWfA 74%, NRA 58%. (He’s new, so some organizations haven’t rated him yet.)

Huelskamp seems to be good on social issues. CWfA scored him 96%, though, like Amash & Schweikert, he’s new, and many organizations haven’t rated him yet. But National Journal says he’s not very conservative at all (54%) on economic issues. That’s about the same as Ron Paul, Justin Amash & Walter Jones — but pretty miserable compared to Boehner’s 96%.

Schweikert doesn’t score as well as Boehner, but his 82% is a lot better than Paul, Jones, Amash & Huelskamp.

Nobody’s perfect, but John Boehner is a good man, and a lot more conservative than Ron Paul, “Little Walter” Jones, or Justin Amash.

Refs:
http://votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/27015/john-boehner
http://votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/296/ron-paul
http://votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/105566/justin-amash
http://votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/106387/david-schweikert
http://votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/12571/tim-huelskamp/
http://votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/21785/walter-jones-jr

Sidekick December 5, 2012 at 11:10 am

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That may be but he is a deal maker and a conciliator. He does not message well and it is the GOP who will look bad in the end here when in fact we have the facts and the math on our side. That is frustrating.

drb December 5, 2012 at 7:56 am

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Remember a woman does not have to give a reason for having an abortion.

RobertW December 5, 2012 at 8:51 am

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how did we come to this? oh wait, i know, self-seeking, selfish, lust-filled, immoral, permissive and promiscuous moneyed lying cheating Godless heathens, and milquetoast pantywaist so-called “christians”

Not so silent December 5, 2012 at 12:23 am

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Rolling over and playing dead and hoping for a lick of Obama’s boots appears to be the way of the Rhino’s nowadays….Did the whole works get a spinectomy?

danybhoy December 5, 2012 at 1:52 am

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John Boehner has been described as a “monkey humping a football”, & that is spot on. He needs to be shown the door along with the old bulls who run the party within Congress. Primary them out or there needs to be a new conservative party that has no mercy & no time for RINOs who are happy to be 2nd class politicians.

poppajoe49 December 5, 2012 at 6:01 am

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That is the answer, the (REAL) Conservatives need to break away and either start their own conservative party, or ride the tide and join up with the TEA Party, and take advantage of the buzz and infrastructure they have built. They have recognition and support among the electorate, we need to strengthen it and make a move now!

ncdave4life December 5, 2012 at 6:50 am

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Don’t believe the Rontards. The fact is that John Boehner is much more conservative than Ron Paul.

Boehner has a lifetime ACU rating of 90%, and a 100% NRTLC rating 11 years in a row. Americans for Prosperity, Concerned Women for America, the American Family Association, and the NRA all likewise score him 100%.

Ron Paul does generally worse. Though he got 96% from the ACU, he had a 100% NRTLC rating only 4 of 11 years, dropping as low as 56% in 2005-2006. AFP rated him 95% last year, but his CWfA rating averaged only 77% over 9 years, his NRA lifetime score is 67%, and his average AFA score is a miserable 49%.

Amash is worse yet: NRTLC 71%, CWfA 74%, NRA 58%. (He’s new, so some organizations haven’t rated him yet.)

Nobody’s perfect, but John Boehner is a good man, and a lot more conservative than Ron Paul, “Little Walter” Jones, or Justin Amash.

ooddballz December 5, 2012 at 1:20 pm

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Don’t believe the Rontards. The fact is that John Boehner is much more conservative than Ron Paul.

Hell, my dog is more conservative than Ron Paul. My dog actually provides a service for his keep. (If you consider barking at anything that moves, and making me laugh a service)