‘It’s a horrible, terrible, no-good, rotten idea.’: Controversy as 200 Utah teachers to be given concealed weapons training in wake of Sandy Hook. This is how libtards think.

Arguing that teachers could be overpowered for their guns or misfire causing an accidental shooting, Lear said: ‘It’s a horrible, terrible, no-good, rotten idea.’

If there’s already an armed threat in the school, which is the premise Lear obviously assumes, the teacher being overpowered or having a misfire is a remote chance and still far better than a whole school of children slaughtered while everyone sits around looking stupid. We suggest he send his kids (if anyone’s ever mated with her, which we hope not) to an unarmed school.

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redabogado December 26, 2012 at 7:16 pm

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What is so sacrosanct about police officers and guns? As a former military police officer and veteran, I can tell you I shoot more often and with better accuracy, now that I am a civilian and a concealed carry gun owner. I used to be part of a team, now it is just me, so I take my ability to take out a bad guy much more seriously. I teach at the college level, and wish I had the lawful authority to carry at school. I would unhesitatingly go after an active shooter given the need to do so. You can’t wait for a LEO response, too many people will perish while waiting for LE to arrive.

Sidekick December 26, 2012 at 7:20 pm

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It took 20 minutes for the Newtown, CT police to get to Sandy Hook Elementary School….to your point.

redabogado December 26, 2012 at 7:26 pm

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Not to mention the deterrence effect if the wack jobs felt they would be killed before they could complete their evil deeds. As someone else put it, you don’t see spree killers shooting up police stations or gun stores.

KimmyQueen December 26, 2012 at 7:30 pm

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Even though “crazy” they always seem to have ENOUGH reason to know that they need to go to the defenseless if they want to do maximum damage before they die either at their hands or at the police’s hands. I find it very strange, but it always seems to be case that these “crazies” who are suicidal dont seem to just want to kill themselves or to go somewhere where they can very easily be killed the moment they appear. That is indeed evil and demonic, so I don’t believe that craziness is really and truly the main reason these people do these things.

Paden December 26, 2012 at 8:08 pm

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That’s pretty much my theory

RobertW December 26, 2012 at 8:14 pm

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i don’t need a firearm to stop a criminal, nor a cop acting w/out authority.

but then, I’m former 82ndAbnDiv.

i can do what needs to be done.

CO2Insanity December 26, 2012 at 10:20 pm

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My great uncle. I think he’s a brother of your’s Robert.

http://www.ihatethemedia.com/dday-68th-anniversary-remembrance-in-france

RobertW December 27, 2012 at 10:43 am

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yeppers. an older and deservedly much more honored brother.

Fenster314 December 26, 2012 at 11:54 pm

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You have to understand that the people who are objecting to this are the same people who were certain concealed carry would end up turning every town into a lawless western shootout. These people fear people with guns – an interesting psychological issue which should be studied and addressed BTW, but obviously that fear is vastly overblown and wrong.

Missile Command December 27, 2012 at 3:31 am

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Great point Fenster about the liberals fearing people with guns. It ties in with their loathing of the military too I guess. It is a point worthy of its own discussion. Why they fear law-abiding people with guns is just bizarre.

grego December 27, 2012 at 10:30 am

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Here is why. Its because they don’t know anyone that they would trust with a gun.

flashingscotsman December 27, 2012 at 7:10 pm

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Most liberals, you could just brandish a 30-round magazine, and they’d pee their pants and make a run for it.

Navyvet2 December 26, 2012 at 7:32 pm

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I am willing to bet that this Carol Lear, lawyer (no surprise there), if she has kids, sends them to a school that Houdini couldn’t get into without getting blown away. But, she and others of her ilk could care less if other people’s kids get shot as long it is moves her/their agenda forward.
I doubt that any of these “shooters” would venture near an area that is known to have armed people on the lookout for assholes like them. I’ll also bet that inwardly they are all pretty much cowards so why not go to the place where they can easily achieve the fame they are going to get from the media.

RobertW December 26, 2012 at 8:25 pm

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pardonezz moi, did you say norman lear? fag extraordinaire?

CO2Insanity December 26, 2012 at 7:46 pm

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Utah already allows teachers to carry in schools. Heard of any misfires or any misfires resulting in injury or death to a student or educator? Didn’t think so.

RobertW December 26, 2012 at 8:27 pm

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co2 don’t matter, guns are bad

only feds and barry suckups need guns, and they only need them cuz of you bible humpin gun totin pos’s that require human dignity, rights, life, protection.

deepthinker December 27, 2012 at 4:04 am

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As I’ve said over and over. We arrive after the fact nearly 100% of the time. This is a positive move and its about time.

To the disarming liberal gun grabbing agenda. This nation has the largest ready army in the world. The hunters and shooters. This is the very damn reason the grabbers are pushing more restrictions. If we are unarmed we can then be defeated by both foreign and domestic enemies.

So the next time the Gregory’s, Morgan’s and Barry’s of this nation start their babbling bull shit, keep in mind that they wish to be your masters.

Missile Command December 27, 2012 at 4:28 am

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Agreed. It is definitely in libs nature to control everything. Free-thinking people with a means to defend themselves adequately – law-abiding citizens with guns – are not so easily controlled by liberal fiat and intimidation. Much harder to bully and armed person into compliance.

flashingscotsman December 27, 2012 at 7:12 pm

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I think it’s self sufficiency in general that they don’t like. If we can take care of ourselves, what do we need THEM for?

poppajoe49 December 27, 2012 at 5:43 am

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I’m still waiting for one story to surface about a school or any other institution, that allows people to carry weapons, and has had an accidental shooting, or an “old west style” shootout, where there wasn’t an outsider perp trying to kill people, and where the perp wasn’t stopped quickly.

Kinda makes the whole point, doesn’t it?

Big Al December 27, 2012 at 7:09 am

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The fear for the libs is that this would spread to Chicago or Detroit. The teachers should be at least as well armed as the students.

poppajoe49 December 27, 2012 at 7:53 am

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Then little Johnny wouldn’t be able to threaten the teacher as easily, can’t have that now.

Neo-7 December 27, 2012 at 4:27 pm

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They would rather see children die ( other than their own , I think ) , then to see their gun ban fantasy fall to the wayside .

Not so silent December 27, 2012 at 7:31 pm

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A teacher with a CCW? That’s a great Idea! Think about it from the LEO perspective, Even if I am close, it takes time to get a couple cops together and go to the source of the shooting. How many people can you shoot in a couple minutes if your deranged enough or some kind of nut case? Quite a few. A teacher with a CCW in the next room could in reality end it before it gets very far. Liberals are never going to agree to anything like this because it does not fit into their demented vision of a communist utopia. I have been at a number of shootings where the bad guy was the recipient of an over dose of lead from the business owner or agent. They were in fear for their lives and took action. I always look at the facts but in 99 percent of the cases they are told by the investigators or me, they did the right thing, they took responsibility for themselves. Cops are too few in number to be everywhere, often at the wrong place when a call comes out, and I don’t care how fast you try to respond, you do no one any good if you get killed on the way to a call. Why it took Sandy Hook 20 minutes to respond is scary to me since I worked in a large city and could get anywhere in five to six minutes at top speed with lights and siren. But five to six minutes can be a lifetime to a victim.

Teachers with Guns? Not a problem as long as they have training and the ability to not make a big deal about it, and it appears Utah did it right. Imagine this is Chitcago, they would be shooting each other at union meetings, you have to have some kind of intelligence before you carry CCW, I don’t believe teachers in Liberal states will ever have enough brains, common sense or guts to CCW. In those states give them a stick, and have them take on a crazed gunman, let me know how that works for ya libturds.
But first they have to pay for a Concealed Carry Stick permit, pay for a training class, take a test, get an EPA/DOJ approved stick and they have to pay a stick tax.

flashingscotsman December 28, 2012 at 10:01 am

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Think about this. How about a dual system, schools WITH armed and trained adults on staff, and schools with ‘gun-free’ zone signs outside. You can send your kids to whichever one you prefer. I know which ones the wackos are going to go to for their killing sprees.

Of course, this would require shutting down the government schools, and using a voucher system for private schools. I’m for that, also.

poppajoe49 December 28, 2012 at 10:19 pm

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Vouchers? Now you just got the teacher’s union and the ACLU all riled up!

flashingscotsman December 29, 2012 at 10:26 am

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Precisely. If it were a voucher system, and all government schools shut down, (I refuse to call them public schools), then people would have a choice. Some private schools would have armed teachers, some would have armed guards. Some would allow the out of control kids to run the classroom, some would swat them with a yardstick. Some would hire the best teachers they could get, at a premium price, others would hire union teachers.

And parents would be able to CHOOSE which school to send their kids to. The ones that nobody sends their kids to would close.