It seems that no one is happy with the Justice Department’s on-going probe of the CIA.
Liberal groups such as the Bill of Rights Defense Committee expressed their disappointment.
Liberty weeps
“The Justice Department’s announcement of only two CIA prosecutions, despite nearly a decade of using torture as state policy, is a national travesty on par with the Japanese internment,” Shadid Buttar, executive director of the group, said. “Excusing from investigation officials who tortured ‘in good faith’ violates international law, abandons the Nuremberg precedent that we fought a world war to establish and creates a separate system of justice for government officials who commit criminal acts, all in one fell swoop.”
Not to be outdone, conservatives are also leery of the continued investigation into Bush era CIA.
“Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., chairman of the House intelligence committee, called Holder’s decision a ‘significant step forward’ for intelligence professionals and expressed hope that he ‘will not prosecute anyone who acted in good faith and within the scope of legal advice.’”
How can either side doubt that the Justice Department will not fulfill its duties with all the tenacity with which they’ve thus far pursued the Black Panters voter intimidation case and the ‘Fast and Furious’ scheme.
Thus far the Justice Department has responded to this case by (1) Dismissing the individuals who had the balls to act as whistle-blowers. And (2) Claiming complete ignorance all the way up the chain of command up to and including the Commander in Chief.
Rest assured, justice will no doubt be served.
Source: Fox News
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And just what did you expect? Holder to do his job??
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Whaa? I thought that was a picture of Holder doing his job on that earlier post. I’m confused.
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Eric Holder should be sending Janet Napolitano a muffin basket since thanks to her he’s only the second most incompetent member of a cabinet in US history.
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Surely you can’t mean Sir Janet , do you ?
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Butter?
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I was thinking that, too.
Cue Don Ho’s “Tiny bubbles”:
“‘Shady’ Buttar (‘Shady’ Buttar)
Sure does whine (Sure does whine)
Make me happy (make me happy)
Make me feel fine (make me feel fine)
‘Shady’ Buttar (‘Shady’ Buttar)
He a lib all over
With a feeling that he wanna
Screw you till the end of time”
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Are you paying attention to the traction the Project “Fast and Furious” is starting to get? If we can put the pressure on limpdicks like Boehner and McConnel (sp), perhaps we can take this shit for brains traitor down! We do that, we may be able to use those same enhanced interrogation techniques on him to get him to roll over on his dickhead boss and maybe even the biggy big guy–George Soros. I can dream can’t I?
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The evil will not stop. I am surprised the dude isn’t jumping under the bus on his own. I am impressed but now let’s hear more of this in the news! http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/6/atf-chief-says-higher-ups-blocked-replies-congress/
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A week ago Rachael Maddow (don’t judge, I only watch the show because of her looks) had her boxers in a bundle over this.
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Was it more than waterboarding? Waterboarding is not torture. After all, if there can be “rape” and “rape-rape” (as the loathsome Whoopi Goldberg has told us), certainly a distinction can be made between “torture” and “torture-torture.”
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Very good good point PD!
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Are they going to prosecute the guys that got that courier to give up Bin Laden?
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When Obama took over, it became the SOCIAL JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
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Get used to more apealling names .
Secret Police== Ministry of Love.
Media control by the government == Ministry of Truth.
Up is down , vulgar is beautiful , immoral is good , good is evil.
” Winston , how many fingers do you see? “
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For what it’s worth, BORDC is more transpartisan than liberal. Our supporters include significant numbers of conservatives (in addition to liberals), reflecting the simple fact that accountability and the rule of law are not partisan values.
It shouldn’t matter whether one is conservative or liberal on an issue like this. Any American who values our nation’s world-historic victory in WWII, or the lives of our servicemembers who served either then (who established the principles recently resigned by DOJ) or today (who are at greater risk of torture themselves because U.S. torturers have never faced justice), or even merely the legitimacy of our criminal justice system (which suffers every day that politically powerful torturers are rewarded with power & prestige while powerless communities are subjected to mass incarceration) should recognize the need to investigate and prosecute up the chain of command.
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I don’t buy it.
In the first place, torture’s definition is getting changed. It is now pretty much defined as “whatever liberals don’t like”, but I suspect that “provides useful information about murderers” has a major role in this definition. A more crass definition would be “caught trying to defend the country while Republican.”
Why not draw the line at sleep deprivation? Mental games? Being forced to stand for hours at end? There are a lot of weapons in the intelligence arsenal that can cross a line, if you’re willing to move the line.
Your appeal is an appeal to the gullible: Who doesn’t want to say “I’m against torture.”? However, invoking the WWII victory shows exactly how low you are willing to sink to prove a political point on the backs of people making a good faith effort to keep their nation safe without going too far.
While the Nazis were tried after WWII and found guilty for heinous acts performed under orders, you neglect to mention that their acts met every commonly accepted definition of heinous with one exception — the Nazis themselves did not feel they were so. Few — I would say close enough to “none” felt it necessary to seek legal opinions on what they were doing — they just butchered away. In this case, you conflate your fellow citizens with a truly barbarous people bent upon extermination of entire races — in the service of your political goal. You’d better have proof that they are so morally bankrupt as to be unable to distinguish between torture and appropriate treatment. “I don’t like it” doesn’t count.
Your fellow citizens, while they wanted to keep our nation safe, took the time to secure opinions as to whether these acts were heinous. Again, there are varying degrees of what people call “torture” — a criminal may, for example, refer to his incarceration for crimes he committed and was duly tried, convicted, and sentenced to as “torture”. His opinion, and yours, does not make it so. Just because having to attend a Justin Bieber concert constitutes torture in my opinion does not mean that the rest of the world sees it as such.
These “politically powerful torturers” — how are career employees at the CIA politically powerful? They went to the trouble of seeking legal advice in order to make sure this effective method of obtaining information was legal. As part of their training, they even had this interrogation method inflicted on themselves. A truly “politically powerful person” would not subject themself to it, nor would I be inclined to think the method was so bad if they were willing to undergo it. The politically powerful have minions such as yourself to do these things. The people having their names dragged through the mud after making a good faith attempt at making sure this wasn’t misconstrued as torture don’t seem to have been rewarded with power & prestige.
Your seeking to destroy the lives of the people who put their careers and lives on the line to protect us smacks of retaliation — not an honest and sincere determination (or even a discussion) of what is and what isn’t torture. Just petty politics to take down a presidency that no longer is in power, and to abuse people whose politics or career choice you dislike.
You neglect to mention that at the time this interrogation method was initiated, many members of your political party thought it was a great thing — right up until the moment they saw a chance for political advantage, without any regard whatsoever for any damage they will do to our nation. With allies like that, the burden of proof on your part is considerably higher than to just to throw words like ‘torture’ around. You have to show why it isn’t politically motivated, and as far as I have seen, the politics cannot be separated from this subject.
You’re pathetic. Go elsewhere to find your chumps to participate in your witch hunts and kangaroo courts.
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You sent him away after all that search-engine optimization? And the syntax and usage is almost there too, one can barely tell English is a second language, damn. Though the reliance on talking points is still way over the top. Good job PC, saved me the trouble, this next beer’s for you.
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Yes, English may have been his second language, but propaganda is quite clearly his first.
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