Las Vegas teens who stockpiled guns and explosives held for plotting mass killing at school. OK liberals, now tell us again why schools don’t need armed guards and/or teachers?

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Navyvet2 December 27, 2012 at 9:41 pm

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This guys lawyer says: ‘We judge people based on what they do, not on what they say,’ the attorney said. ‘What has he actually done? He never hurt anybody.’
So being a lawyer, defense lawyer at that, chances of her being a liberal-loon are pretty high. “He never hurt anybody.” please add “YET!”
Even though this guy is talking about killing kids “for target practice” and that he could “kill more people than the 12 in Colorado,” I willing to bet that that our wacko legal system cuts this guy loose. Furthermore, Las Vegas is in Clark County. Clark County requires that all hand guns be registered. So will they charged with breaking that law? Not likely.’
I’m sure the media-pukes are disappointed these guys were stopped before they acted.

flashingscotsman December 28, 2012 at 8:52 am

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All the liberals are upset that they were caught before carrying out their plan. Just think of the gun control laws they could get passed if ANOTHER lunatic went off right now.

CO2Insanity December 28, 2012 at 8:58 am

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They’re going crazy on SFGATE.com over Arapaio wanting to deputize volunteers, arm them and place them at schools. This move did take the wind out of their sails bitching about the cost. Arapaio isn’t as dumb as they think.

http://tinyurl.com/cmjqmty

whiskeyriver December 29, 2012 at 8:00 am

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There is no need for Sheriff Joe to deputize anyone. Kalifornia, Arizona and New Mexico, the states I am familiar with, have had volunteer Sheriff Posse Associations for many years. The members are trained, allowed to carry a weapon, have a law enforcement badge and uniform and can be called up at any time the county Sheriff deems necessary.

Think of them as the National Guard at a local level. A couple of friends belong to the New Mexico Sheriff’s Posse Assn. and they get called to service several times per year. They have to provide their own horses and equipment and they are used as extra security for large gatherings like parades, the state fair, Balloon Fiesta, that sort of thing. They also help in search and rescue operations involving lost hikers, plane crashes or manhunts for wanted criminals. All without pay, on their own time and dime.

Instead of talking Arapaio is doing and that pisses the liberal loons off more than anything.

flashingscotsman December 29, 2012 at 9:34 am

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Good man, Sheriff Joe.

If the local Sheriff provided proper training, and had enough pull to get such a program started, I would gladly give one day a week at a local school. There are people who are concerned with getting their progressive agenda pushed forward, and there are people who are concerned with keeping the kids safe.

RKae December 27, 2012 at 10:38 pm

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…And is anyone ever going to ask the uncomfortable question: Why didn’t this happen until fairly recently?

Guns are pretty old. Kids have had access to them for all that time. My brother was a nut; had guns of his own as a teenager (in the 1970s); hated school; hated people at school. We NEVER assumed that he would shoot the place up; he never threatened to, and never did.

So why now? Why did this phenomenon begin? Why is it being repeated? What new factor was added to the mix?

Angry Southerner December 27, 2012 at 10:48 pm

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The fact that the media will focus on you and your actions in almost a heroic manner for several weeks

RKae December 28, 2012 at 12:29 am

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And in this most recent event the friggin’ President chimed in. Nice. Now we have a country of loonies saying, “Oh! I wanna make the President have to comment on my actions!”

KimmyQueen December 28, 2012 at 6:29 am

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They are hoping to all be his sons maybe?

KimmyQueen December 28, 2012 at 6:29 am

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That is definetly a factor, it could be also that there are more substances in the food and water that causes those who are more prone to it to go crazy. It could be environmental factors and it could be nurturing factors of parents who are indulgent becuase their own parents weren’t, guilty because they don’t want to curb their kids appetites since they dont want to or didnt curb their own, etc.

It is complex and coupled with the very possible (in my opinion) demonic activity in the world it is a recipe for disaster.

flashingscotsman December 28, 2012 at 9:15 am

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When I was a kid, moms stayed at home for the most part, taking CARE of kids. Now, with excessive taxation, and the desire to buy more expensive stuff, stay at home moms are a rarity. It would be interesting to look at each of these shootings, and see how much attention the shooters got growing up, versus how much time they spent with video games.

KimmyQueen December 28, 2012 at 6:27 am

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Satan is old too, but it is possible that it is getting more desperate since its time for evil doing is getting shorter (I hope and pray). I was thinking this morning that the conversion to evil mindness by young people (or all ppl) AND the destruction of lives especially of innocent children is the move of a desperate evil spirit that wants to muddy the waters and make a statement that there is no good to stop it. Don’t know… my mind just went there, but of course the contention is wrong and the plan will be countered when the time is right for GOOD to act.

whiskeyriver December 29, 2012 at 8:25 am

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As far as I am concerned it all started when school nurses started handing out drugs like Ritalin like it was candy.

It was the early 1970′s before anyone heard of ADHD or any of that other crap that “experts” say kids suffer from today. Since then kids have been doped up to stay quiet in class instead of being given more to do to keep them from getting bored to death.

If you use todays guidelines one of my brothers would be a doped up fool now because he was “hyper” in school. All that was wrong with him was he was bored. He could do his classwork, then homework, then have 10 minutes or so left to cut up in class, so he would get in trouble from time to time. It didn’t take drugs to get him settled down, all it took was being given more work to do. After he was jumped a grade and really had to study he calmed down, he wasn’t bored with the classes anymore.

Now the first generation of doped up kids are having kids of their own, who may end up being put in the same position. Who knows what the drugs did to the parents brain, who knows what they do to the kids brain? Nobody, that’s who. Instead of giving a hyper kid, who may be smart as hell and bored to death in class, more work to do to see what the kid may be capable of, they give them a bunch of drugs instead. Look at the rise in school violence since the ’70′s and see if it fits. It looks like it to me.

CO2Insanity December 29, 2012 at 9:04 am

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They tried to tell me my youngest had like ADD or ADHD (I forget which). The teacher bitched, sent him to the nurse and she of course immediately “Knew” he had this (no real testing or real doctor, just a diagnosis pulled out of her ass).

I went over to the school office and called BS on the whole deal. I told them the big problem was boys like to be engaged with something interesting and when they aren’t they get bored and fidget around. I told them I felt the real problem was the teacher was not teaching properly so he was bored and that perhaps they should give her something to pep her up so she’s make the class interesting. Even though I hadn’t I inferred I had talked to a lawyer about this.

After our meeting I never heard another word.

What they really want is kids to sit there like good little zombies and not disturb the teacher.

drb December 29, 2012 at 9:34 am

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True…same thing happened to my son way back when he was in the first grade. His teacher insisted he had ADHD.
No, he doesn’t.

He won’t stay in his chair.

Let me guess, he got up started pacing, making odd hand gestures in his own face and made funny little noises. Right?

Well, yes. He disrupts the whole class doing that. He needs something to keep him in his chair.

No, he doesn’t need any medication. What you saw was him trying to cope. Something happened, something agitated him, something made him uncomfortable, and that is how hw tries to cope with what he does’t understand. What happened just before he got up and started his pacing?

Well, I don’t know.

Of course you don’t. You weren’t paying attention. He doesn’t need medication, he needs adults who pay attention to what is happening in the classroom. Find out what triggers the behavior, eliminated it, and the behavior will stop. Or would you like for me to sit in and observe what happens in your classroom?

Never heard another word from her . This of course, was the same “teacher” who (earlier) said that she knew he wa as smart boy, could “see the wheels turning in his head” but she didn’t know how to teach him, so she wasn’t going to try. I asked her if she wanted “to keep her f*#^$^%$g job? If so, I suggest you f*#^$^%$g figure it out”

poppajoe49 December 29, 2012 at 4:20 pm

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Good for you.

KimmyQueen December 29, 2012 at 5:42 pm

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Good for you girl

flashingscotsman December 29, 2012 at 9:40 am

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In grade school, I was just like your brother, CO2. But my teachers would find a subject that was interesting to me, and encourage me to study up on it. In second grade, I was the resident expert on Thomas Edison. Third and fourth, it was Tesla. They screwed up in the fifth and sixth grade and got me interested in the Constitution and the Federalist Papers. After that, there was no controlling me.

CO2Insanity December 29, 2012 at 10:24 am

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I was reading at a college level by the time I was in 6th grade. My teacher recognized this and knew I was bored stiff. I did very little with the rest of the class that year. I mostly had my own assignments. Bless that man for recognizing it. Nowadays I’d be bored as hell, declared ADHD and drugged up.

poppajoe49 December 29, 2012 at 4:33 pm

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I was doing the same CO2. I was also heavy into science and math. They had no idea what to do with me, so they pretty much let me set my own pace in those 3 classes.

KimmyQueen December 29, 2012 at 5:45 pm

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This is why more children should be taken out of public schools and placed in private or charter schools. A size fits all education IS NOT the way to go. There are kids who are NOT going to be advanced in fact they NEED more time on ONE thing for probably most of the year before they actually get it and that also causes problems.

things need to change, when is see a baby being handed a computer like an e-reader type and he or she starts to use it successfully by intuition, it tells me that when that child reaches school he or she is not going to be happy with one size fits all education.

poppajoe49 December 29, 2012 at 8:26 pm

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Unfortunately, I was in Catholic School.

KimmyQueen December 29, 2012 at 8:33 pm

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I thought Catholic Schools were private and essentially better than Public Schools…

poppajoe49 December 29, 2012 at 8:55 pm

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It all comes down to funding. In an elementary school, the funding wasn’t there for more comprehensive programs, also realize I was in that school in the 60′s and early 70′s. Also, the nuns didn’t have the training to handle advanced students like they do now.

KimmyQueen December 29, 2012 at 5:39 pm

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Yep. Whenever I would ask to see if there was something else I could do, i was looked up and over like I was asking to do something illegal. If I took out another book to read I was told I couldn’t do that or if I took a textbook to read ahead I was toldnot to read ahead because it wouldn’t be fair to the others. That is why I liked my AP classes, when you are done with whatever you had to do in class you can move on to pursue other interests while the others were done. If you are done with a test youc an get permission to go to the library and use library resources. When I was going to a private school in my country of origin you were told that you could do those things I guess because they are private and parents are paying so you can do as much on education as possible, but US public schools even DoD are whack UNLESS you are on advanced or college prep classes… it is insane.

poppajoe49 December 29, 2012 at 8:30 pm

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When I was in the Air Force and going to my tech school, once you got past the basics of electronic theory, they let you go self pace.
The school I was in had the highest failure rate of any school in the military. Self pace helped weed out those who would never make it, but it also let those who would make it go at their ability.
The course was scheduled for 15 months, and I finished in 11. Most students finished in 11-13 months.

flashingscotsman December 30, 2012 at 10:27 am

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I thought it was kind of funny, when I was in Kindergarten and First Grade, that the teachers were teaching my classmates how to read. Knowing only from my own personal experience, I asked, “Didn’t your Moms already teach you this?”

CO2Insanity December 30, 2012 at 10:31 am

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I hear that. I vaguely remember hating first grade reading. I could read the Dick and Jane stuff with no problem at all. I hated waiting while most of the other kids stuttered and couldn’t read. I was like what’s up with that?

poppajoe49 December 30, 2012 at 10:58 am

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Not just reading, but math also.
My grandmother had me playing Canasta and Pinochle by the time I was 5, so I knew adding and subtracting 2 and 3 digit numbers.

KimmyQueen December 29, 2012 at 5:35 pm

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Chemicals DO affect brain chemistry. That is why pregnant women shouldnt be taken anything that could harm a child of course the crap that she ingested before getting pregnant may have already changed her brain chemistry and her DNA and passing on. That is why a lot of us suffer of generational curses because a lot of the stuff from our ancestors that they did wrong or affected them badly comes down the line. So I do think that you have a point.

Also in addition it could be cultural things as actions not necessarilythings ingested into the body can ALSO affect/change brain chemistry like addiction to pornography, addiction to having things or shopping (kleptomaniacs), addiction to playing violent video games watching violent movies, hearing violent music, etc. There are always some people that are more susceptible than others to those things and their minds change or become conflicted.

spymyeyes December 28, 2012 at 5:22 am

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America has been brought down from within by the communist infiltration during the 60′s of our schools and government, and dirty bankers that took over our money supply back in 1913 and formed the PRIVATE BANK known as the federal reserve (that is no more FEDERAL that federal express is), and all without a shot being fired.

Our schools have been downgraded to the point where ANY student can claim stupidity, take the “special Ed” coarses, and get a H.S. diploma without knowing how to read, write, speak properly, do ANY kind of math, and does not know ANY american history except ALL white americans are evil and slave owners.

Our morals and values have been attacked to the point of COMPLETE reversal from where everyone knew the difference between right and wrong without needing a fistfull of stinking laywers to do it for you.

Our family structure has been replaced with touchy feely LGBT nonsense that makes everyone do whatever feels good and now we have one out of every four people under 30 with an STD for life and a family structure that comprises mommy + a welfare check.

The glue that holds our society together has been watered down to the point that CHILDREN spend their days killing everything on never-ending computer games and watching flicker-rate filled mind-controlling propaganda on TV while wacked-out on prescription drugs that “doctors” hand out like candy.

Combine all that with a gubbermint that has been outsourcing our manufacturing base just as fast as they can for the last 30 years and you have exactly NOTHING for the average HS kid to do once they get their “diploma” and no hope for achieving anything like their parents standard of living because of the fiat-money scams known as fractional banking and the neverending inflation/devaluation of our money supply.

poppajoe49 December 28, 2012 at 6:34 am

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Interesting how the article never mentions how he acquired the weapons.
Is that MSM code for “illegally obtained weapons”? I think so.

To spymyeyes point about the dumbing down of American students, I know a guy that is my age, and cannot read or write, yet he has a HS diploma, and has been working for years as a highly regarded and well paid auto mechanic.
He is a testament to the Texas public school system.

CO2Insanity December 28, 2012 at 7:23 am

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My dad used to have a guy working for him at his auto shop. I was amazed to find out he couldn’t read. Dad eventually got tired of having to look up stuff for him in shop manuals and then explain it to him. Wasted 2 peoples time in the shop instead of 1.

He actually has his own shop now. I guess his wife must come in to read shop manuals and pay the bills.

poppajoe49 December 28, 2012 at 7:32 am

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Well, I will admit that the guy I know is highly intuitive. He doesn’t need to read the shop manuals, he is just a natural. However, when he has to do training updates, he does them at home on the computer, and his wife reads the questions to him and he answers.

GhostntheMachine December 28, 2012 at 7:00 am
CO2Insanity December 28, 2012 at 7:35 am

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LOL. Gotta love libtards. He should have wrote about how wonderful Dear Leader is. He would have got an A and been the school valedictorian in June.

My youngest was not happy with his English teacher and when he had to write an essay on someone he admired he wrote about Adolf Hitler just to pee in her Post Toasties. I’m surprised he wasn’t arrested.

I think I had to listen to her whine on the phone for about a half hour.

deepthinker December 28, 2012 at 6:44 pm

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But it didn’t happen and they (liberals) cant be bothered with the fact that jump in the face of their lies and bull shit stories.

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