McDonald’s settles Mich. suit over Islamic diet. It appears there’s a problem at the McDonalds in Dearbornistan. We suggest this McDonalds stop catering to them and serve only McRibs and make sure everything else is fried in pork fat. H/T to DefHarryMelon

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PsychoDad January 21, 2013 at 8:29 pm

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Such a case is not entirely without precedent. (Uh-oh, here comes Lawyer Bob again, everyone just groaned.) Briefly, there is established law which says that any restaurant advertising food to some standard, including religious, must comply with that advertising, just as any other representation it makes. This has deep roots in the kosher marketplace, as you might expect. Just to share a tidbit, one of the famous/landmark cases, out of NYC, actually ended up a First Amendment case, because for a long time, city ordinances prescribed the preparation and conditions for food to be called kosher. One deli owner, who did his own koshering, was perfectly fine by rabbinical standards and had the certificate from a qualified neighborhood rabbi, but the =city= inspector came by and said he was only soaking meat in salt water for two hours instead of 2 1/2 or whatever it was (to get all the blood out) and that he was NOT selling “Kosher” meat. Well I’m sure we can all see the 1st Am implication there, and I believe it did go SC, and this was a church/state question I do think was resolved correctly.

All to the point, if McDonald’s says its McNuggets are kosher or halal or whatever, they dam well better be.

poppajoe49 January 21, 2013 at 8:41 pm

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They are, the McNuggets are prepared in a different plant than the McRib, and are heated in the store in a different place, nuggets are deep fried I believe, ribs are microwaved.

CO2Insanity January 21, 2013 at 8:49 pm

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Sorry but lawsuits like this are like ADA lawsuits. Basically some attorney wants to get a fat pay day. I fail to see why a lot of money needs to change hands in either case the first time. If the building makes itself ADA compliant or the restaurant makes it’s food Kosher or Halal that should be the end of it. Now, if they don’t change, then fine, at that point I don’t have a problem with some money changing hands.

GhostntheMachine January 21, 2013 at 11:12 pm

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Like the decades old burger place put out of business out there, but I see PDads point too. And while we’re on the subject

Ahhwooooo… Muslims of London, Ahwooooo!
Ahhwooooo… Muslims of London, Ahwooooo!

http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?ID=300434&R=R1&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

I really fell into that one, but it would make an excellent satire, thing almost wrote itself…

I saw a muslim with a Chinese missile in his hand,

RKae January 22, 2013 at 2:33 am

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And will I hear your song on Mohammad’s Radio?

perlcat January 22, 2013 at 9:59 am

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Awesome Warren Z reference…

PsychoDad January 22, 2013 at 10:25 am

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Not over the sound of Roland’s Thompson Gun.

perlcat January 22, 2013 at 10:47 am

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That SOB Van Owen.

flashingscotsman January 22, 2013 at 11:02 am

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Yep, fat payday for the attorneys.

“$275,000 is expected to go to the Huda Clinic, about $150,000 to the museum, $230,000 to attorneys and $20,000 to Ahmed.”

DefHarryMelon January 22, 2013 at 6:44 pm

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I had the poster with the reverse cover artwork for Bad Luck Streak in Dancing School. I have a story about Cobray Mac 10s, too, but that one’s for a different way to communicate it. Anyway, http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ccAqODz3Vl4/UGqim5Lwv2I/AAAAAAAAFcE/B2TVcq2eHHc/s1600/scan0315.jpg I really did enjoy Warren’s work. I was deeply saddened when he died and having been unknowingly exposed to large doses of asbestos repeatedly myself, I share a certain fear he likely felt.

poppajoe49 January 22, 2013 at 10:52 pm

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I saw him perform in The Stone Pony bar in Asbury Park NJ about a year or so before he passed. He seemed fine. I’m not sure his illness was public knowledge at the time.
I really enjoyed his work.

DefHarryMelon January 23, 2013 at 2:34 pm

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I saw him at a really cool venue in Milwaukee, the old Pabst Theater. Only time I ever saw him and it is odd that I really have no certainty when it was! I always liked his stuff but never bought any of it. He lived only a year or so after he was diagnosed. He did release a song about being gone before he died. A very funny and smart guy. Lots of really good lines, far too many to list. Among the stickers of them all, my current favorite went something like ‘If you won’t leave me I’ll find someone who will.’

Karmaa January 22, 2013 at 2:57 am

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There was a case in the 1970′s where a milkshake stand in NYC was selling really really low-cal milkshakes that tasted delicious. Chubby chicks flocked to the place to get their fix. It turned out that the shakes were NOT low-cal – in fact they were obscenely calorie-laden. If I remember correctly, the stand-owner got a very light punishment, and the statutes were later changed to prevent this kind of thing.

I don’t like much government intervention, but I have real issues with merchants messing with people’s FOOD. There was an article last week that HORSE MEAT was found in ground beef in the UK. Whoever did that should be flogged.

perlcat January 22, 2013 at 10:00 am

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Yeah, I bet that really tripped a lot of triggers.

I’ll get my coat…

Sidekick January 22, 2013 at 10:13 am

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I’ll have my Secretariat trot out a letter immediately to protest this new crop of food outrages.

poppajoe49 January 22, 2013 at 6:21 pm

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Someone is going to have to pony up with some cash over that one.

PsychoDad January 22, 2013 at 10:25 am

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OH, pfft.

Jim Stewart January 21, 2013 at 9:10 pm

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I want a prayer to the Great Pumpkin invoked before my sandwich is prepared.

perlcat January 22, 2013 at 10:03 am

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…and what about all the Pastafarians? Will McD’s start serving Flying Spaghetti Monster-compliant meals?

sifi January 23, 2013 at 6:29 am
perlcat January 23, 2013 at 7:30 am

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Wow. Just wow.

flashingscotsman January 23, 2013 at 8:27 am

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I was in town for the Long Beach Grand Prix way back in the late 70′s, eating lunch at McDonald’s. There was a guy there from Corporate, doing questionnaires. The final question was, “What would you like to see added to McDonald’s menu?” Of course, I said that I really like tacos.

Before writing down my answer, the young man looked me right in the eyes, “Sir, can you imagine what a McDonald’s taco would be like?”

CO2Insanity January 23, 2013 at 8:44 am

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Sesame seed taco shells?

ooddballz January 23, 2013 at 9:53 am

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And yet, they serve breakfast burritos…..

flashingscotsman January 24, 2013 at 10:50 am

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But,…….have you tried one?

Me neither.

sa_rose January 24, 2013 at 1:13 pm

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I have. If you put enough hot sauce on it to cover the taste of American cheese, they aren’t bad.

perlcat January 25, 2013 at 6:39 am

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Years ago, I was in San Antonio on business when they first came out, and the local McD’s used a local hot sauce instead of the goo they now serve. They were extremely good, but I’m sure that the corporate office put a stop to that.

I still like ‘em, but if I want Mexican food, I’ll go to a Mexican restaurant.

poppajoe49 January 25, 2013 at 7:30 am

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I’ll tell you, when I was in the Air Force I spent most of my enlistment in San Antonio, I never really liked Mexican food, or what used to pass for it at Taco Bell, but I fell in love with Tex-Mex! Now I scour the countryside trying to find good Tex-Mex. My favorite is fajitas, but nobody uses the correct meat (skirt steak) for it around here.

Alien January 25, 2013 at 8:17 am

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Love Tex-Mex.. was introduced via brisket fajitas with some extremely hot peppers, long ago. That’s when i decided to recalibrate my taste for even spicier stuff..

I sorely miss another fusion since I moved to CO. Maybe haven’t been looking hard enough, but there was a place, Chino Bandido, which is like no other (Chinese-Mexican)

flashingscotsman January 25, 2013 at 9:47 am

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When I showed up in Cleveland many years ago, to help finish the construction, and become the first operator of, Dinosaurus Rox, I asked the guys in the shop where the nearest Mexican restaurant was. They all agreed, there’s a Taco Bell down the road a bit. I had to train that crew before heading to San Antonio for our first show at the Alamo Dome.

http://www.myspace.com/video/rhonda/dinosaurus-rox/59328638

sa_rose January 25, 2013 at 2:13 pm

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Taco Bell, Taco Bueno, even Taco Cabana are not really Mexican food or even Tex Mex, tho TC comes closer. REAL Texmex is only served at little mom and pop, hole in the wall places that no one has ever heard of. Generally, the smaller and more unknown, the better. As a child, moving all over creation with the AF, we were frequently unable to get real Texmex, or Mexican. Fortunately, my Mom was an excellent cook and she made chili con carne, enchiladas, 2 varieties of crispy tacos. It was awesome. When we visited my Grandmother in San Antonio, my great aunt always made a huge Mexican dinner for us all. Then my mom would stock up on very thin corn tortillas from the Sanitary Tortilla Factory, and bottles of Gebhart’s chili powder, so we had it for the year. The chili recipe card I made when I was 10 has a note “always use Gebhart’s chili powder.”

poppajoe49 January 25, 2013 at 2:28 pm

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Oh yes! The tiny shops are the best! They are all over Bexar County!

sifi January 22, 2013 at 9:52 am

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McDonalds messed up by catering to muslims to begin with. Muslims should establish their own halal restaurants if they want to eat out. Whether it’s their dress, their worship, or what they eat muslims want everyone else to bow to their needs, but then, world dominion is a part of their theocratic religion.

PsychoDad January 22, 2013 at 10:31 am

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Yeah, but that’s the only point I was really making, is that McD did this voluntarily, represented to the world that some part of their menu adhered to some standard, and they failed to live up to that representation.

Yeah, it’s stupid it would be a huge lawsuit, but McD knows better than anyone that that’s the environment they do business in these days. And it doesn’t matter if they say it’s halal or kosher or vegetarian or fat-free or gluten-free or broccoli free. They’re a business and they make these representations with the specific intent of attracting a certain clientele. They have a duty to the clientele to provide what they promise, and they are legally liable if they don’t. I should say it’s the amounts involved that are going to be ridiculous, rather than the matter itself.

sifi January 22, 2013 at 11:12 am

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I agree you make a perfectly logical argument. My statement is by bowing to the needs of these people you create your own peril.

sa_rose January 22, 2013 at 9:27 pm

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I don’t have a problem with this suit. McDonald’s made a claim about their food, then lied about it and got caught. Oh well. I personally would never have tried to make a fast food restaurant Halal to begin with, but that was their choice. They got busted and deserve what they got/

perlcat January 23, 2013 at 7:31 am

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Me, I’d start a pork restaurant with my friends, Hal and al, and not label the pork as such. Then again, I’m mean.

Alien January 25, 2013 at 2:43 pm

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LOL “Hal and Al”

that will surely be stolen..

Alien January 22, 2013 at 10:17 am

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i know many consider them vile, but i’ve had about 12 of these things this cycle..

PsychoDad January 22, 2013 at 10:33 am

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And now I think I’m gonna grab one in the bus station on the way home tonight. Cripes I can’t even remember the last time I had one…
/I will offer it up to Allah.

perlcat January 22, 2013 at 10:38 am

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I love them. Not going to get a decent pork sammich anywhere else in fast food land.

poppajoe49 January 22, 2013 at 6:23 pm

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Just need to leave off the pickle.

perlcat January 23, 2013 at 1:00 pm

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I leave that out, too.

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CO2Insanity January 22, 2013 at 1:00 pm

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You really need to explain to us all what type of corporation you’d approve of. Then we’ll know why every current one is greedy.

Not so silent January 22, 2013 at 3:38 pm

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Never mind Creepy Crowley..he is just really Mcstupid…

poppajoe49 January 22, 2013 at 6:29 pm

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He’s MAYOR McStupid!

flashingscotsman January 23, 2013 at 8:41 am

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TD,……………..MO.

sa_rose January 22, 2013 at 9:31 pm

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He doesn’t approve of ANY corporation, which is why he spends his time mooching off his parents, who clearly can’t afford to take care of him. If he is truly 26 years old, he should be out supporting himself, even if not at the level he would prefer. There are people in San Antonio a decade younger than him with kids and THEY work. He needs to shut the hell up, grow up. and support himself. I promise he could get a job if his parents tossed him out on his ass.

danybhoy January 22, 2013 at 9:42 pm

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I agree with Greg Gutfeld about McDonald’s…

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1081807776001/gutfeld-mcdonalds-caves-to-food-freaks/

…BTW, full disclosure, I’m a Dairy Queen guy & will chose them over McDonld’s every time. But Gutfeld is 100% spot on about what they have done better then anyone in human history.

sa_rose January 22, 2013 at 9:53 pm

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I prefer other restaurants to McDonald’s but I have eaten there in a pinch. And I like the apples. When I was working home health and eating lunch while driving I ate a lot of the chicken strips with the fruit salad on the side.

danybhoy January 22, 2013 at 10:30 pm

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What Gutfeld has said, & he says it in the clip I linked, was the McDonald’s has done more to help feed people cheaply then anyone else in human history. Those who hate McD’s because they are supposed to seem to miss that point, & they are usualy not worth the time. crowley bitching about them being a greedy corporation is redundent, they are what they are. The only legit complaint I’ve heard about them came from Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden, who said he did’nt like the quality of the beef they use. Judging the product rather then the ideals of corporate food chains seems out of reach to leftists.

ooddballz January 23, 2013 at 9:58 am

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Hey crowley. Go find a nice non-profit corporation to work for, then refuse to accept a paycheck, since they would not be a GREEDY corporation and would need the money they could pay you for operating expenses.

danybhoy January 23, 2013 at 11:58 am

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He would be “working” at someplace that serves meals to the homeless.

BTW, ooddballz, cute doggie photo. Is that your doggie by chance?

ooddballz January 23, 2013 at 12:25 pm

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BTW, ooddballz, cute doggie photo. Is that your doggie by chance?

Yeah, and that’s his happy face. He belonged to my girlfriends aunt, she bought him when she was about 84 or 85. She knew it was not a smart thing, but it made her happy. We promised her he would have a good home since no one else would take him.
She died happy, knowing some one would love and care for him.

danybhoy January 23, 2013 at 1:47 pm

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Looks like a friendly guy.

What kind of dog is he?

Also, how old is he now?

ooddballz January 23, 2013 at 2:23 pm

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He is a toy poodle, about 3 years old.
I know he is a TOY poodle, because whenever I tell him Lassie would do that he looks at me disdainfully, and says “Lassie was a WORKING breed, I’m a PLAYING breed.”
I say PLAYING breed?
He says “Yeah, why do you think they call me a TOY poodle?
What can I say?…..I throw the ball.

sa_rose January 23, 2013 at 2:11 pm

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He’s definitely a cutie! Bet he’s so rotten he stinks!

ooddballz January 23, 2013 at 2:24 pm

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Naw rose, he ain’t spoiled….I’m just VERY well trained.

sa_rose January 23, 2013 at 2:42 pm

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HAHAHAHA!

danybhoy January 23, 2013 at 2:43 pm

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Got a Shih Tzu, Riley, that is a little sh!t, & she can be a handful. Great disposition, & very loveable. We got after we put down our 13 year old Lhasa Apso named Sadie, who had diabetis the last 4 years. 2 insulin shots a day, at feeding time. In the morning & in the evening. She would let us know when it was time, & then after the first 3 years, her health went south fairly quickly, & we had to put her down. That was a sad day, & I still carry 1 of her tags with me with my keys. I love the new doggie, who is 2, but I still miss the old girl. Beautiful dog.

ooddballz January 23, 2013 at 2:52 pm

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I know the feeling.
The last Akita my mom had to put down still tugs at my heart strings.

Buried a few good people, and a few good dogs. I think I miss the dogs more.

sa_rose January 23, 2013 at 3:43 pm

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I used to per sit for a great Akita. Parents were nuts, but the dog was great! Very friendly, and well behaved, always ready to play. I have lost a number of dogs over the years, but I think I miss the last the most. An adopted Shelty, smart as a whip and devoted to the family. She used to herd the kids by nipping at their heels if they dawdled! She lived to 15, then very suddenly got sick and was getting worse, no matter what we did. We finally had to have her put down. It was awful. My son doesn’t even like to see pictures of shelties who look like her because its too painful.

drb January 23, 2013 at 4:23 pm

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oh now, let’s not talk about losing doggies, I’m not ready for that even though I don’t know how much longer I’ll have lil Abner. He’s nearly 17 people years old and his age is showing.

danybhoy January 24, 2013 at 4:31 am

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sa, I love akitas. Very good looking dog, & a tough customer as well.

ooddballz January 24, 2013 at 9:45 am

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With the exception of 1 chow, we had nothing but Akita’s when I was growing up.
We were showing them when the only place you COULD show them was the Royal Akita Club, because they were not yet recognized in America.

http://www.canismajor.com/dog/akita.html – Proxy – Highlight

Akitas are most striking and impressive creatures with an attitude of nobility and an appearance of strength and power. Recognized by the American Kennel Club in 1973, the Akita is a rather new breed in the United States.

The AKC was behind the times on that one.

flashingscotsman January 24, 2013 at 10:55 am

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The AKC, as they often do, took the original Akita and bastardized it. I had a Japanese Akita, the best dog I ever had. I haven’t had a dog since he died, over 15 years ago.

sa_rose January 24, 2013 at 1:19 pm

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The couple I petsat for was mixed Japanese and American. I always assumed the Akita was Japanese. They freaked out because he barked at people, but in his case, it was not aggression. He was just greeting everyone. He never so much as LOOKED aggressively at me or any of my kids. Of course, we never annoyed him, so maybe that was part of it. He LOVED having the kids come play!

flashingscotsman January 25, 2013 at 9:57 am

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Akitas have a wonderful personality, they love kids, always looking to protect them. If the Akita you know barked much, he was probably American. The Japanese bred the dogs for bear hunting, and they are naturally very quiet dogs. It took months to train mine to speak on command. He just didn’t want to do it.

Did the dog you sat for have a black, or dark, face? That’s a sure sign of American influence.

sa_rose January 25, 2013 at 2:15 pm

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He only barked when we first arrived. The rest of the time he was silent. I don’t remember if his face was black. He may have been American, I don’t know. But he was a truly cool dog!