Obama Let 1 Billion Dollars in School Security Funds Lapse Before Sandy Hook Mass Shooting. The smartest president ever? We beg to differ.

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KimmyQueen December 16, 2012 at 2:36 pm

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Come on!!!! All this does is fuel the conspiracy nut that is itching to come out of me. This is insane!

RobertW December 16, 2012 at 7:42 pm

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we all just need to slow down a bit…

yeah it’s disgraceful and more, but we have within our hands, and within our rights, to peacefully petition.
barry’s not gonna save anything, cept maybe his own skin, and all we have to do is engage in civil disobedience.
do not buy anything unnecessary.
remove all funds from banks
carry an led or laser in your pocket/purse/fannypack
back up, take a deep breath, remember whom we belong to,
And take this opportunity to confess that Jesus Christ is LORD, to the glory of God, the Father.
I mean, if we’re to be serious about changing things.

only thing we can change is ourselves, and that, quite possibly only through the Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world.

deepthinker December 16, 2012 at 4:06 pm

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Kimmy queen,

You aren’t nut. We all have questions on why barry claims everything is for the children yet he continues to cut the very programs that will truly help them become independent productive citizens of this nation.

I wish to hear the carnival barker Carney explain this one away. It is now up to someone tomorrow to ask the question. Come on boys and girls within the msm do your damn jobs and ask the tough questions and stop kissing ass.

sa_rose December 18, 2012 at 8:27 am

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Like THAT’S ever going to happen!

Plainsman December 16, 2012 at 6:10 pm

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What does it mean when funds Lapse? Does that mean that the funding was appropriated but never used? It’s bad enough that we are taxed to death to cover crap-sandwich legislation, but when funds for something truly needful, like school security is appropriated but not disbursed, you have to ask WTF?

I wonder if this came to mind for the POTUS tonight as he spoke to the folks at Newtown?

Not so silent December 16, 2012 at 6:24 pm

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Just another factoid to add to my post in this thread:

Dem Lawmaker: Obama must “exploit” shooting to get gun control.

danybhoy December 16, 2012 at 6:30 pm

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How come none of these school shooting ever seem to happen at private schools?

poppajoe49 December 16, 2012 at 7:08 pm

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No union teachers?

RobertW December 16, 2012 at 7:35 pm

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not enough targets?

KimmyQueen December 16, 2012 at 7:43 pm

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Good question. Perhaps they allocate their funds well enough to make sure there are security placements on site and around campus. ???

sa_rose December 18, 2012 at 8:29 am

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The school had a security plan and enforced it. THe shooter bypassed the security measures. Our kids already go to school in places that look like prisons. How much more can we “protect” them?

KimmyQueen December 18, 2012 at 9:49 am

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This school was a gun free zone. He knew he could get in becuase the security plan was in all truth flimsy. Without an armed guard there to enforece the security plan it created a situation where he could just shoot his way in. The principal and other administrators lunged at him, however, using their bodies as shield unfortunately did not save the children and they lost their lives in the process. We may never know if one of them was armed if things would have been different but I am thinking if anything it would have helped. The coward killed himself when he saw the cops coming, the cops with guns.

I just learnt that the Aurora killer chose that particular theaters because it was a gun free zone. He had scooped two other theaters (and the media didnt freely report this for some reason) and those two theaters were ignored by him for he feared that he will have to engage someone in gun battle before he committed the crime that he wanted to commit. Even then after choosing a free gun zone theater, he still went with protection. However if he had the protection why not then go into a place where the chances of people having guns was higher? Perhaps not wanting to engage civilians in gun battle while many of them get to escape was not suitable for his murderous mind.

I am willing to believe that if this school had at least one armed guard IN ADDITION to the security measures (that he was so easily able to by-pass), he woud have not chosen that school or else he would have killed himself or he would have been engaged diminishing his resolve to break through or at the very least slow down his progress making it easier for many of the children and teachers to leave through the back door.

sifi December 18, 2012 at 8:13 am

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There could be one of those gun-toting Bible clinging rednecks around.

RobertW December 18, 2012 at 9:02 am
Newsel December 16, 2012 at 7:49 pm

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Didn’t Benghazi go this way? Withdraw funding for protection in July and then wonder in September just why the bad guys can walk in? One has to wonder how many windmills or Volts were subsidized with the $1Billion saved by not implementing school security or how about the $80Billion spent on funding the UN IPCC? It would appear that this administrations priorities are somewhat confused.

KimmyQueen December 16, 2012 at 7:53 pm

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Yes…!!! OMG… Ah man this is just not looking good…

StrinaM December 16, 2012 at 8:08 pm

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I’m beginning to see a pattern…..

poppajoe49 December 16, 2012 at 9:52 pm

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Too bad those responsible can’t see it.

Newsel December 17, 2012 at 6:39 pm

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Just came across this one on another site…”The Bath School disaster is the name given to three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, which killed 38 elementary school children, two teachers, and four other adults; at least 58 people were injured.”

Depravity: and not 2nd Amend related…sad stuff either way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

poppajoe49 December 18, 2012 at 6:57 am

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Ban peple?

Newsel December 18, 2012 at 8:02 am

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Did some digging…reading between the lines it seems the perp was also a sociopath….no conscience. Check out what he did to his step mother…the warning signs were there but ignored.

http://daggy.name/tbsd/tbsd-t.htm#ChapterThree

sa_rose December 18, 2012 at 8:41 am

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And that has been true of every school shooter we have had. Obvious signs, but no one paid any attention until it was too late. THen everyone moans and groans that it all must stop, but nothing is done until the next tragedy.

KimmyQueen December 18, 2012 at 9:53 am

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It isn’t politically correct to point out when a person is disturbed mentally that they could also be dangerous because for some reason that will make his or her self esteem low :-/ That in of itself is insane.

If a person is disturbed and no matter what the school and the parent does then it is time to place them in the hands of professionals that monitor them 24/7 and through trial and error and testing find teh right combinations of medications AND therapy to deal with their issues away from stressors like family and school and things that are normal for others but OBVIOUSLY not normal for them.

Why did everyone involve WANT these people to become INVOLVED in society and be sociable and have friends if it s obvious that is NOT THEIR THING? Why? Pushing people to be “normal” is a MAJOR stressor.

they need to be in a situation or place where that stressor is taken away and their real issues are worked on.

Newsel December 18, 2012 at 4:32 pm

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KQ: have to concur…the ACLU have blood on their hands.

RobertW December 18, 2012 at 4:39 pm

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in other news al notso sharp ton of crap is blackishesque.

sa_rose December 20, 2012 at 8:25 am

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It actually wasn’t so much the ACLU. It was the disabled community. THe psych patients got lumped in with other disabled folk as far as guaranteeing their civil rights, and to some extent, it was needed desperately. Even if you are crazy you deserve care, food, shelter and appropriate medications, etc. The mentally ill, no matter how minor their problem, were simply warehoused in large institutions, where untrained personal sort of herded them around like cattle. The wern’t receiving care and in many cases were not even getting basic food, housing , hygeine, etc. But we sort of threw out the baby with the bath water, since some need long term inpatient care as Kimmy describes, to settle on meds, provide therapy, provide a place where the usual daily stressors are reduced.

flashingscotsman December 18, 2012 at 10:07 am

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Same with Gabby Giffords’ killer. He should have been locked up long before the shooting.

sa_rose December 18, 2012 at 10:13 am

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Well he didn’t kill HER, but he did kill a number of other folks, including a child. And he messed Gabby up for life.

KimmyQueen December 18, 2012 at 10:18 am

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There were signs that he was danger before he shot at anyone. The Aurora killer had warning signs as well. The Newton killer as well and even the Columbine killers as well.

RobertW December 18, 2012 at 3:39 pm

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profiling
and they’re all white.

RACIST

sa_rose December 20, 2012 at 8:27 am

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You know what? It IS profiling. And profiling is done for a reason. THere are commonalities amongst different afflictions and behaviours. Shooters are generally young, white boys/men. There are always exceptions, but its a place to start.

flashingscotsman December 20, 2012 at 9:44 am

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Profiling has worked well for Israel.

jcrowley1985 December 18, 2012 at 7:14 am

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sa_rose December 18, 2012 at 8:45 am

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It is a good thing I cannot physically reach you, or I swear, I would clock you upside the head. This episode KILLED nearly 30 people, most of them 5-6 year-olds. Let go of your warped Paulifarian bullshit for a nanosecond and consider the loss in that community, and anyone’s community could be next. It is about mental health care, NOT your stupid Corporate Greed. 9/11 was NOT an “inside job” unless you consider it inside Al Kaida, and again, thousands of completely innocent people were slaughtered. Grow the hell up and learn to think for yourself instead of parroting shit you read from stupid people and sites.

jcrowley1985 December 18, 2012 at 8:47 am

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RobertW December 18, 2012 at 9:03 am
poppajoe49 December 18, 2012 at 5:44 pm

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That is the last nun that would carry a gun. She’s the poster child for libtards.

RobertW December 18, 2012 at 5:55 pm

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maybe
but she’s sexy.

poppajoe49 December 19, 2012 at 5:40 am

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I used to think so, but her opinions make her much less so in my eyes.

flashingscotsman December 19, 2012 at 10:05 am

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Spent too much time hanging out with Ed Asner?

sa_rose December 18, 2012 at 10:00 am

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Stupid beyond belief. How much oil did we get in Iraq?> They HAVE gun control laws that have proven ineffective in this type of situation. Talk about a useful idiot. . . .

jcrowley1985 December 18, 2012 at 10:02 am

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KimmyQueen December 18, 2012 at 10:16 am

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Turd!!!

Newsel December 18, 2012 at 4:35 pm

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JC, and your reaction to fracking is what? NG prices have dropped from $8 per MMscf to less than $2 per MMscf. You sir and ill-informed troll / idiot.

RobertW December 18, 2012 at 4:40 pm

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again, stating the obvious…
hmm
i gotta find a vid for you newsel.

i find i find
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e4kDXsM6lk

also, jcrowley is a snit-wit

Newsel December 18, 2012 at 4:46 pm

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OK…followed the link…Black and White is the msg?

RobertW December 18, 2012 at 4:52 pm
Newsel December 18, 2012 at 5:13 pm

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“Pink Floyd is just one huge trippy ass experience” ….now that I can relate to…:-)

RobertW December 18, 2012 at 5:38 pm

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copy roger wilco

KimmyQueen December 18, 2012 at 9:54 am

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You are an idiot of the worst possible kind.

jcrowley1985 December 18, 2012 at 9:58 am

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KimmyQueen December 18, 2012 at 10:01 am

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You wasted your vote. So yes you are an idiot.

jcrowley1985 December 18, 2012 at 10:05 am

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KimmyQueen December 18, 2012 at 10:16 am

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You are an idiot. No where I said 9/11 was an inside job nor done in the name of Corporate Greed. That is all you and you are an idiot for that.

The fact that these streaks of shooting seem odd to me is a normal reaction considering the person in power now, however, it doesn’t mean that I buy into it or that I endorse it or even want to or state it as a matter of fact like you do.

Unlike you I am thinking person, who doesn’t take things for granted but also doesn’t get on the conspiracy train just for the sake of being an idiot… like you.

If you are not going to apport to this discussion then please be quiet.

Not so silent December 19, 2012 at 6:18 pm

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He can’t be quiet Kimmy, He is a Ron Paulista who is still upset that the election went south for his hero, the only two phrases he knows are corporate greed and Ron Paul, no intelligence, no common sense, not a clue of what goes on here. It’s like dealing with a five year old who is developmentally disabled, he can not function in a room full of adults. That’s why his census job was taken from him and he lives on WELFARE GREED…..look up looser in the dictionary, you’ll see his picture.

RobertW December 19, 2012 at 6:33 pm
sa_rose December 18, 2012 at 10:05 am

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You’rre an idiot for thinking Ron Paul would have done anything useful or appropriate had some disaster occurred and he had been elected. THe man is a narcissisticnarrow minded, one track moron, just like you. We have enough of that with Obama. You would NOT have gotten freedon from Ron Paul. Just a different ruling class.

Newsel December 18, 2012 at 5:58 pm

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And the proof of the pudding….just why is the msg so confused? Excuse the pun: shooting at the easy target and avoiding the real issues that are the responsibility of multiple administrations. Much easier to buy votes with food stamps. Another sad story…

http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/thinking-unthinkable.html

RobertW December 18, 2012 at 6:09 pm

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alright God Damnit all
obviously mentally challenged people ought to be able to live a full life
same same socially challenged

IF, and i stress the word IF, IF they’re able to, laugh at themselves.

p.s. anyone who says God, the Almighty, doesn’t have a sense of humor, has never seen my face.

tyvm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=xlDXQdgx_QU&NR=1

sa_rose December 20, 2012 at 8:36 am

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I would give you a thumb up for the airplane clips, but a downthumb for the language. Guess I won’t vote either way.