Occupy Shows Solidarity With Walmart Employees. Perhaps the Flea Baggers shouldn’t be so keen to get the common people fired. After all if they don’t have jobs who will there be left to fleece when it comes time to pay for all the handouts for the Whiney-whine percent?

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I'm With STUPID November 26, 2012 at 2:09 pm

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SHOCKER!

Navyvet2 November 26, 2012 at 5:43 pm

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I dont get it, I dont get it, I dont get it. I had a job that paid crappy wages. I hung in there for a long time on promises that salary would improve. (Dummy) I finally simply (duh) started looking for the new job, doing the same thing, that paid more and offered a better opportunity for advancement. It never occurred to me to make up some stupid sign and stand in front of the low paying employer and piss and moan like a baby with some other idiots. I found another job that paid better and IMO, it was the first employers loss. I really dont think that figuring that out made me a genius but rather points out that I was not an idiot. I simply do not understand the stupidity of these dumb assholes.
Of course, if I would have been unable to find a job doing the same thing for more money, that would have told me something about the profession I choose or else told me something about my capabilities. What is so difficult about this concept???
You dont like what you are being paid, QUIT!!!! Find a new job.

Joe November 26, 2012 at 6:11 pm

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Lol, I worked at Walmarts for a few months, and it was miserable because most of the managers treat associates as subhuman. So one day I’m like screw you, I quit. It’s that simple. I needed a quick job, it served my purpose of paying the bills, then I found something better. The job wasn’t even that bad, my fellow associates were all cool, but something about being shit on everyday is not very motivating.

danybhoy November 26, 2012 at 7:18 pm

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That reminds me of these words…

But glittering prizes and endless compromises
Shatter the illusion of integrity.

…now, if you you think you recognize those words…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWO_Xtc9kjA

…after all, it’s how my mind works.

Alien November 26, 2012 at 7:37 pm

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I will always love that band

danybhoy November 26, 2012 at 7:39 pm

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Hard not to love them, & they are Canada’s best.

Alien November 26, 2012 at 10:00 pm

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I really dig Godspeed You! Black Emperor too (of more recent era).. its music to code by (that is, if you like any post-rock.. sometimes very weird shit, but they don’t sing so it doesn’t interfere with programming brain)

But yeah, i wish Longevity Science would get moving, so they can keep Rush alive for an actual 2112 concert

poppajoe49 November 26, 2012 at 10:38 pm

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It took me a couple of seconds to remember who it was that did that tune, but I didn’t need the youtube link to get it.

Alien November 26, 2012 at 11:27 pm

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Walmart relies on welfare systems to supplement their employee’s low wages.. They literally brief their noobs on where to go for benefits.. So its Walmart and the taxpayers paying their workers.. My brother-in-law works there and if he didn’t live with his dad he’d be on foodstamps too

Walmart is shit..I’ve shopped there a million times but I’m done with them. Jobs are hard to find now, for some people, in some regions.. Remember we’ve got unemployment everyone’s bitching about for years now. For some, its harder to get out then others. Joe did it, but i’m guessing he could take a break because he didn’t have kids

I respect a place like Costco.. They drop a lot of the useless choices, they keep prices low, and they pay their employees very well, with benefits. And Target’s nextdoor for the details

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Geoff B November 27, 2012 at 2:46 am

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Christmas on a cracker! Are you back on that tired tune again?

poppajoe49 November 27, 2012 at 4:24 am

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He never left it, he just concentrated on RP for a while, but still threw in a CG post for extra annoyance.

PsychoDad November 27, 2012 at 8:22 am

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*shik-shik* BOOM

ooddballz November 27, 2012 at 9:30 am

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Here, let me reload that for ya.

Geoff B November 28, 2012 at 1:14 am

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Must have missed those. Work’s been kind of hectic lately.

danybhoy November 27, 2012 at 4:46 am

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Actually crowley, some corporations do benifit from welfare. Wal-Mart, & all companies who sell food & accept EBT benifit from welfare. Wal-Mart, does’nt give a damn if you are paying for your food with your own money or if it’s coming from an EBT card issued because you are a lazy ass welfare guy who rolls out of bed at noon everyday. They don’t care who pays, as long as they get paid.

poppajoe49 November 27, 2012 at 5:04 am

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WHAT??? They expect to get paid for their products?

CORPORATE GREED!!

Alien November 27, 2012 at 10:17 am

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By ze gods, conservatives.. You should be at least minimally vexed that Walmart steers its employees into welfare systems (especially since turnover is so high, how many just leave the workplace and stick with what Walmart taught them to do?) It is ABUSE.

jcrowley is correct here. Walmart is being greedy. The Waltons are rich enough that they don’t need to have the states pick up the tab to supplement low wages/prices

NOTE: Not *all* corps are greedy, but don’t ignore the ones that are. Unless you think i’m lying or misinformed about Walmart’s abuse of welfare systems. By all means, you know i’ll listen to countering info

perlcat November 27, 2012 at 2:41 pm

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Wal-Mart may have a disgusting compensation scheme, but every person that enters that store is subsidizing it. They serve a purpose — when pennies count, people do what they have to do, which keeps it going.

I’d never willingly return to retail, but I’d say that Wal-Mart’s low prices have kept more people off the welfare rolls than they force onto them with shitty pay. As bad as they are, pay-wise, they *do* pay better than the union shops.

I suppose that’s more of a sad commentary of how unions do a shitty job of representing their members — the money all gets funneled to Washington.

Alien November 27, 2012 at 2:55 pm

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i’m not sure about the welfare dynamics if you factor in:

1) the turned-over employees with sudden insight into state welfare systems, courtesy of Walmart training
2) the smaller retailers that get crushed when Walmart dominates a rural region.. Even in early 90s, i knew guys who treated the Army as a jobs program, because their little towns & mainstreets were dying. Obviously that’s competition and has to be expected. But.. brutal

Also, Walmart employees were unionized in Germany, and Walmart dove in anyway. Though priced competitively, the Germans just didn’t take to it. Maybe it was the weird morning employee chanting that awoke nascent ancestral horrors..

I dunno.. fuck it, i confess I am irrationally irritated with them now, and I think it has something to do with the move to Denver and brand new Costco membership. They sell BISON meat here! Forgive me, i’m a noob to this blend of prairie and mountain

perlcat November 27, 2012 at 2:58 pm

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Mmmm. Bison. Tasty.

Or, as my friend says: “Salad. It’s what food eats.”

poppajoe49 November 27, 2012 at 5:43 pm

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I don’t eat rabbit food, I eat the rabbit.

Joe November 27, 2012 at 4:31 pm

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I understand where you’re coming from. This is an issue I’ve thought a lot about and have not yet come up with an answer. Another issue I’ve been thinking about is people who work in a factory (or other places, like my Uncle drives a van) and get laid off for 2 or 3 or 4 months during the ‘slow’ season. Then every year they spend 2 or 3 or 4 months on unemployment and go back to their job for the rest of the year. Although they are good, hard-working people, it just doesn’t fit right with me.

I think the answer to all this lies in free markets and a severe reduction in the welfare state. If people are encouraged to work a job that would normally not sustain themselves and their family because of government intervention, then there is no encouragement to find a better or more steady job. If the employer can’t find people to work because the government does not some how subsidize their employees, then they must either do what they do better or fail and let someone else try.

The reason we’re at where we’re at is because we don’t practice free market principles and individual responsibility anymore.

poppajoe49 November 27, 2012 at 4:32 am

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Wal Mart never claimed to be a place that you could get an entry level job that would pay well enough to support a family. Most of the jobs there are part time, and meant to suppliment an income.
There are no mass retailers that I know of that pay that well for entry level positions.
People need to stop trying to get employers to pay unskilled workers the same wage as skilled workers.
Does a janitor at a nuclear power plant deserve the same wage as the nuclear engineer?
Does a typist deserve the same salary as a CEO?
People need to get over this “fairness” crap and understand that people get paid what they’re worth.

Alien November 27, 2012 at 5:56 am

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I think Walmart puts some effort into trying to market a viable career path to its potential associates. Like I said, i’ve shopped there a million times because its damn convenient, and i’ve seen their job marketing over and over. Career is not a word you use when you are being honest about shit part-time arrangements. As a fairly well compensated consumer, I have chosen in the last year or so to take my money where employees are better treated. Walmart is no more deserving of my salary then their employees are entitled to “fairness” (or their corp is entitled to the dole to supplement their payroll).

Its all my choice within markets.

flashingscotsman November 27, 2012 at 12:30 pm

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Of course, that attitude hurts the poor, ignorant welfare recipients that work at WalMart just as much as it hurts the company.

perlcat November 27, 2012 at 2:47 pm

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It sure is your choice, and I respect it. I try to keep my money in small stores and local neighborhoods myself.

As a free country, we’ve got that right. However, it *is* a free-market price/information anomaly. That’s the beauty of free markets — we can do things that make sense only to us, that do not take into account a pure dollars/cents evaluation. I support the right of Wal-Mart to pay as they do, as long as their employees have the right to use them as a stepping stone on their way to better things.

Retail ain’t what it used to be — the only sane people that plan on retiring from retail are the executives — everybody else has had their pay whored down to below subsistence, but still slightly above “gotta have experience so I can get a better job” level.

I'm With STUPID November 26, 2012 at 11:31 pm

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Watching that video is proof the left have mental problems and want to be cool so bad. Seems like a lot of work and effort to stand there and spew something to every customer going into the store. Got tired just watching it. One or two people does not make a protest.

Obama is on the side of this “protester”. I think that if you don’t like your job then start putting applications in at other places. No matter what the job is or where it is at, there is someone else trying to get that job or any job right now.

I'm With STUPID November 26, 2012 at 11:38 pm

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Why are you doing this in front of Walmart “protester”?
“protester”: I want to be on the news so my friends can see that I am cool.

I'm With STUPID November 26, 2012 at 11:58 pm

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Here’s something, you are not going to get rich working at Walmart. There are a lot of students that are working at Walmart and trying to better themselves in college and not standing out front of the store trying to run off customers. Walmart has gotten to be too big to fail.

danybhoy November 27, 2012 at 4:51 am

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Here is the real reason for the protests…

UFCW Finacially Troubled National and Local Pension Funds

UNITED FOOD & COMMERCIAL WORKERS
FINANCIALLY TROUBLED NATIONAL AND LOCAL PENSION FUNDS

For years, UFCW union organizers have been telling prospective new members that nothing beats a union membership for a secure retirement. The inconvenient truth that they haven’t been telling workers is that their union-sponsored pension plans are underfunded, owe more in benefits than they have the assets to cover, and face strict measures such as freezing core benefits while eliminating others in order to recover from their severe financial distress.

An asset/liability ratio gauges a plan’s funding and financial health. At 100% or higher, the plan has enough assets to pay all of its promised benefits and other obligations. Below that, it cannot meet its obligations. Under federal law, if the ratio falls between 65% and 80%, the plan becomes endangered. If it falls below 65%, the plan’s status changes to critical.

Of the 51 pension plans sponsored by the United Food & Commercial Workers, all but seven have funding levels which are in the endangered or critical range. The average funding level for the 51 UFCW members’ pension plans is only 67.4%. Only two plans were at or near full funding levels. This means that more than a 1.2 Million UFCW members are locked into underfunded pension plans.

Forty-four of these plans are in serious financial trouble with either endangered or critical funding levels as described by the Pension Protection Act (PPA). Their average funding level is only 62.7%. Together, these plans have almost a million participants and all of them are required to take steps to recover their financial health and avoid collapse. This may include freezing benefit levels or even eliminating some benefits altogether and drastically increasing contributions. This will tax current workers and employers to pay for poor fiscal management, planning and negotiations of the past.

Half of these weakened plans (22 of 44) are funded at levels described as critical under the PPA. Their average funding is just 57.8%. These severely underfunded plans will be required to adopt even more drastic cuts as part of their recovery. Dire news for their 583,780 participants.

The UFCW is a major proponent of the Card Check bill, which if passed will allow them to force more and more workers into these failing pension plans. Prospective future union members will likely be thrown into a pension plan that is already sliding toward insolvency – thus, their pension contributions will be used in a ponzi-scheme to prop up benefits for current members and retirees, rather than provide a safe and secure pension of their own.

To quote the UFCW’s website, to the more than “1.2 million active, retired, former members and their eligible dependents” of the union’s pension plans, the issue of pension security “is more than an issue – it is survival.”

http://www.ufcwmonitor.com/pensions/ufcw-finacially-troubled-national-and-local-pension-funds/

…it’s about expanding the number of people who pay union dues, & nothing more.

poppajoe49 November 27, 2012 at 5:09 am

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Sing along!!………………

Look for the union label,
When you want to find underfunded retirement and medical programs!
Remember somewhere Our Union leadership is spending our futures
On lavish vacations and “conferences” in Hawaii and Singapore!
We work hard, and we’re complaining
Because we make less than the CEO’s
So look for the union label,
When you want to find fiscal mismanagement, greed, and waste!

Navyvet2 November 27, 2012 at 2:32 pm

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This is why we are starting to hear Ocommie and his politburo talk about taking over retirement accounts. They have to bail out the Corrupt-Union-Bosses that have fleeced the retirement funds into their off shore accounts. The govt takes over, suddenly the Union Thugocracy is off the hook cause no one will ever find out what happened to all the funds.

Geoff B November 27, 2012 at 2:55 am

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I wish I could say I don’t shop at Walmart for some altruistic reason but the fact is I just think their stores suck. Where I live ,there’s a Target practically next door to the nearest Walmart and a Meijer just down the road from that. Both stores are cleaner, have better groceries and better staff. However, just because I choose not to spend my money at Walmart, doesn’t mean I feel it’s my right or duty to disrupt those who choose to work or shop there. I really don’t get these occupy people. I mean, who the hell asked them for their “help”?. Maybe they should go get jobs instead of messing with people who already have one {or two }

poppajoe49 November 27, 2012 at 4:44 am

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We had a Target less than a mile from Wal Mart, and they only had minimal groceries. No freezer or refrigerated sections, no meats, produce, or dairy. They closed the store after a year.
We have an Aldi, 2 Save A Lots, 3 Wal Marts, and numerous Publix, Sweet Bay, and Winn Dixie grocery stores. But as far as department stores, we have Sears, Wal Mart, K-Mart, and that’s pretty much it unless you count cheap ass crap like Dollar General and Family Dollar.

Geoff B November 27, 2012 at 1:59 pm

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Our Target is actually really nice, but it’s on the southwest side of town which is where the more wellI-to-do area. And actually the Walmart there is nicer than the other two in town, but after repeated horrible service I’m done. Retail wise they’re in a very competitve area and I’m willing to pay a little more to not have to deal with slow rude employees.

poppajoe49 November 27, 2012 at 5:37 pm

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That’s what the customer service desk is for. If I am mistreated or treated rudly, I am not afraid to go complain to the management.
I find people don’t screw with me after that.

Alien November 27, 2012 at 2:41 pm

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The Walmart in Scottsdale Airpark area is super nice.. even the moms who shop there are reasonably attractive.. But that’s Scottsdale for ya, and that area is swimming with IT money..

Cross the border into N. Phx a few miles down Bell, and you find one that is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. (bring your lightsabre..)

perlcat November 27, 2012 at 2:55 pm

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Yeah, stay out of the Mos Eisley Cantina. Good music there, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stbYF6XpTYE

Alien November 27, 2012 at 3:00 pm

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lol, if only we could watch Occupy try to storm that

MIC CHECK!!
[click...click..slide.. blaster checks..]

perlcat November 27, 2012 at 3:18 pm

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Just tell Cheeto-boy to wear the “Greedo” suit for wacky hijinks.

jcrowley1985 November 27, 2012 at 8:28 am

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ooddballz November 27, 2012 at 9:36 am

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The point is, you are a fucking moron.

GhostntheMachine November 27, 2012 at 11:19 am

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Can you believe the advancements in brainwashing & thought modification in the last couple decades? Amazing isn’t it?

flashingscotsman November 27, 2012 at 12:37 pm

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TD,…………MO.

Fourths.

Buh-bye.

Geoff B November 27, 2012 at 2:02 pm

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LOL!

GhostntheMachine November 27, 2012 at 5:39 pm

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Nice to see you back.

Geoff B November 28, 2012 at 9:48 pm

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Thanks Ghost! Good to be back.

Not so silent November 27, 2012 at 11:56 am

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The point is that you have no point, your pointless and a complete asshole….Go away Creepy Crowley, share a man moment with Ron Paul and maybe your mommy too…

Geoff B November 27, 2012 at 2:01 pm

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They should stand up in front of a f**king truck. After they’ve had a bath.

perlcat November 27, 2012 at 2:49 pm

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Hey, Geoff! Good to see you’re out and about!

Geoff B November 28, 2012 at 1:24 am

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Why thank you! Life has been hectic lately between work and family. The partner broke his collarbone and my Grandma isn’t doing to well, so I’ve been going to Chicago every chance I get to see her.

ooddballz November 28, 2012 at 4:23 am

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Welcome back. Sorry to hear about your Grandmother, and even sorrier to hear that you have to go to ….(shudder of horror)…..CHICAGO to visit her.
Hope the partners collarbone heals fast, only being able to use one arm sucks. and even if it is not so bad, and he can use both arms, the pain/discomfort thing always sucks.

Geoff B November 28, 2012 at 1:50 pm

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Thank you! They’re both doing better now. The partner is back to work (he’s been working from home till a couple days ago and fairly driving me up a wall! Lol). And Grandma got out of the hospital right before Thanksgiving. She turns 90 this weekend so when she does get sick, I try to see her as much as possible since you never know…. As for Chicago, I moved away several years ago, and now that I see it from an outsider’s point of view, I don’t know why I stayed as long as I did. Beautiful city, but what a freaking mess!

poppajoe49 November 28, 2012 at 5:37 am

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Wow, sounds like you have had a full plate lately!
Send along our best wishes to grandma and partner, hopefully, they both heal soon.

poppajoe49 November 28, 2012 at 5:57 am

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AWWWW, fweetness, I can just feel the love!

perlcat November 28, 2012 at 7:55 am

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Well, we wish you and those you love the best. Something to cheer you up in a messed up sort of way:
http://imgur.com/gallery/otpHg

GhostntheMachine November 28, 2012 at 10:28 am

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And if that wasn’t bad enough

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bieber-booed-by-canadian-football-fans-20121126

The folks at home love him too.

Geoff B November 28, 2012 at 1:39 pm

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I do love Grumpy Cat! Almost as much as I can’t stand Beiber!

perlcat November 28, 2012 at 2:14 pm

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Yeah, that cat is amazing.

flashingscotsman November 28, 2012 at 10:00 pm

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I wish I could find pictures of him as a kitten. That had to be amazingly cute.

GhostntheMachine November 29, 2012 at 5:58 am

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Ever see the Janus cat?

http://www.missfidget.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/2016355327.jpg

Real cat, not shopped.

poppajoe49 November 29, 2012 at 6:43 am

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Looks like something creepy crowley would have sitting on his lap.

flashingscotsman November 29, 2012 at 8:41 am

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Not cute. Not cute at all.

GhostntheMachine November 29, 2012 at 8:01 am

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@perlcat, just beat me over the head. That speed thing I had? Since I’ve had this thing I had recycle bin set to auto empty every other day. Did some tinkering going on two years ago.

Musta hit some resets, oops. just opened recycle bin for the first time in forever to retrieve a delete, had damn near a gig and1/2 in there. Live and learn.

I'm With STUPID November 27, 2012 at 11:56 am

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More firms (Dillard’s, Las Vegas Sands, WalMart) shift dividend payments to Dec to avoid potential 2013 dividend tax hike.

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perlcat November 28, 2012 at 12:50 pm

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No, it wouldn’t. Understand your frustration, but you don’t have to become one of “them” to get your point across.

drb November 28, 2012 at 12:55 pm

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for someone who claims he doesn’t advocate violence, you sure put out the violent rhetoric.

ooddballz November 28, 2012 at 2:31 pm

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I gave you a TU, while I agree with the sentiment, I would disagree with the action….at this point in time.

GhostntheMachine November 28, 2012 at 3:36 pm

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I usually don’t do it, but I clicked and hid that one out of spite, he’s been being a Richard (on purpose or out of ignorance, don’t care, all day).

ooddballz November 29, 2012 at 10:37 am

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Might be one of those types that post stuff like that so they can point out how violent and hateful conservatives are on another site, under a different name.

Alien November 28, 2012 at 11:00 pm

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Not sure you are thinking that through. It would only make them stronger

Alien November 28, 2012 at 11:02 pm

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Of course I did make a blaster joke at the cantina.. what a maroon..(and hypocrite I be)

KimmyQueen November 29, 2012 at 12:31 pm

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Just leave Walmart alone. Things are getting expensive there already. Even dollar stores are now having pre Obama Walmart prices and they are rising. This is real life. People jsut need to calm the hell down. If Walmart is treating you badly leave and get another job. Seriously I am all for people getting paid what they deserve as merit but come on if Wlamart doesnt see it then prove it to them and if you can’t then leave.

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