THE FEDERAL WELFARE EXPLOSION. “This is an astonishing fact: the amount spent on federal welfare programs last year was enough to mail a $60,000 check to every one of the 17 million households living beneath the poverty line.” We have to ask what happens when everyone’s on welfare?


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Fenster314 November 14, 2012 at 11:14 pm

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As has been true for a long time, helping poor people is the excuse. The actual reason for the existence of the welfare state is the employment of huge numbers of workers and their dependents who will reliably vote for it’s continuance. The same can be said for the government-education complex, the government-regulation complex and the government-defense complex.

RobertW November 14, 2012 at 11:33 pm

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workers and their dependents who will reliably vote for it’s continuance… government-defense complex.

mayhap you’ll be a bit more explicit as to your meaning so i’ll know whether to UT or DT you.

RobertW November 14, 2012 at 11:36 pm

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the amount spent on federal welfare programs last year was enough to mail a $60,000 check to every one of the 17 million households living beneath the poverty line.” I have to ask what happened to the checks? by my reckoning I’m missing 49k. oh wait, i’m on disability, not welfare.
but wait again… if all them ppl got a check for 60K why the hell didn’t they frugalize and save so they wouldn’t be on welfare THIS year?

am i missing something here, or am i merely stupid?

PsychoDad November 15, 2012 at 7:43 am

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That’s the point I think — that’s the amount spent, not what they get. Some significant portion of that gets spread out to pay for social workers/case workers/assorted other government paychecks.

flashingscotsman November 15, 2012 at 9:25 am

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Every program has overhead. Look at the DMV. They take all that money in on “registration” and “licenses” every year. Do you think it all goes into taking care of the roads? Step into any office of the DMV and look around at the sloths behind the counter. They get paid first, then their pensions get funded, the offices paid for, their supervisors all the way up the chain to the state capitol. If there’s anything left over, maybe someone will fix a pothole.

RobertW November 15, 2012 at 12:48 pm

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maybe someone will fix a pothole

and that pothole fixer better not be a private citizen disgusted with the lack of govt inaction or else he/she will be arrested, fined and/or imprisoned for daring to take matters into his/her own hands re: road vigilante-ism.

lynch the traffic cones!

flashingscotsman November 15, 2012 at 6:55 pm

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Mostly because he’s not a union member.

RobertW November 15, 2012 at 7:16 pm

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yet, wait til trumke takes charge in 2014

RobertW November 15, 2012 at 12:52 pm

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some significant portion must be more than half i’m thinking.

so, in effect the welfare is a system that provides kickbacks to the govt wastrels?

thanks for helping me understand PD seriously.

sa_rose November 15, 2012 at 10:58 pm

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What I want to know is if they can do thins, why not do it? At staggered times throughout the year, send each eligible household 60 grans. The poor get assistance, and we would save money in the elimination of various positions and offices for people to decide if you get money and how much.

RobertW November 15, 2012 at 11:09 pm

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when I was in the Army we held to this axiom:
If it makes sense ya can’t do it.

6 November 2012 November 16, 2012 at 12:45 pm

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Put simply, the poor doesn´t get welfare or any other such program, either because they refuse or are unable to apply because of mental illness.

Otherwise, they simply would not be counted as poor by gubbermint statistics.

drb November 15, 2012 at 2:16 am

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Why the hell am I working for a living?

Alien November 15, 2012 at 8:24 am

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I wonder too sometimes..

i think i have it nailed down. The racism on the left is not about keeping anyone on a plantation. Its a barely acknowledged fear of race riots, if we take away the bread & circuses

Sidekick November 15, 2012 at 8:29 am

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I had the exact same conversation last night. One could make the case that Obama won last week just to keep the cities from burning.

Alien November 15, 2012 at 8:49 am

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Its actually easy to trigger a discussion with liberals about it. If you try the plantation angle, it just makes no sense to them.. It goes nowhere. Its too rich a metaphor and comes across as a talking point repeated ad nauseum. But if you start talking riots, they will imagine brown people massing for violence. And i’m not really talking about riots over electoral outcomes, but mass unrest over deprivation, if the welfare doles are shriveled by politicians.

I don’t think they picture white people looting or marching over extreme poverty. The only white people they fear are 2nd ammendment advocates, which is a whole class of unrest that has little to do with suffering & poverty

flashingscotsman November 15, 2012 at 9:33 am

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Let the cites burn. Along with the people in them.

KimmyQueen November 15, 2012 at 2:51 pm

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It could be both things. Keeping people in a plantation: controlled and “secured” is also a way to keep the from rioting in order to get their freedom or in order to keep them from looking elsewhere for sustenance.

RobertW November 15, 2012 at 12:44 pm

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off the top of my head:
You are able, willing, want better for yourself and your progeny than, perhaps your forebears had, you have self-respect, and don’t want to be kept as chattel.

KimmyQueen November 15, 2012 at 2:49 pm

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That is my question as well! I could go on welfare and let other fools pay my way. Instead I am the fool paying for others whereas I get paid less than they! It is disgusting.

ooddballz November 15, 2012 at 3:08 am

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Just send me the check, let me figure out how to invest it
I would own a small house on a large piece of dirt, and be as self sufficient and as far off the grid as possible.
Oh, and I would STILL work, one way or another.

Honestly, my dream home involves a deep running stream that does not freeze in winter, so I could set up a water wheel to generate my own electricity.
Or if need be, a series of water wheels. I just want enough to keep my own house up and running, and if I happen to generate enough to sell back to the power company, so much the better.
Oh, I want the water to be clean enough to drink, shower, etc.
Using it to brew a little whiskey from time to time would be a plus.

Navyvet2 November 15, 2012 at 8:39 am

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And with this news Il Douche and his corrupt administration all lift their glasses of Dom Perignon Champagne in a toast saying, “I love it when a plan comes together.” “We have achieved our goal of enough people on welfare for us to stay in power forever.” And right they are.
Next the checks for the welfare recipients will get smaller and smaller, but that is okay because those on welfare are so willing to share the ever shrinking pot with all the illegals joining the welfare roles as they voted for. Hmmm. Either they are generous or stupid. I wonder which?

KimmyQueen November 15, 2012 at 2:48 pm

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You have got to be kidding me! Welfare should never take the place or be comparative to a job. Never… Then it is not welfare it is being paid for being alive. It is disgusting.

6 November 2012 November 16, 2012 at 1:28 pm

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The REAL poor are so because they either refuse a governement check or are simply not capable of milking the system due to metal issues.

Make no mistakes, the libtards would love that they do take their share of free money, because that way the gubbermint statistics could liste them as not being poor.

Also, the REAL poor aren´t FAT.

Chances are, if you are in the gutter and don´t know when things are going to get better, you´ll eat less and loose any extra kilos real quick! You certainly won´t spend everything on 5 kilos of trash food a day.
Remember, the obese and morbidly obese are NOT poor, they are not people, they are bloated ticks living off the system.

sa_rose November 18, 2012 at 11:42 pm

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Actuallym, you obviously have never applied for assistane. I have a degree and when I applied for medicaid for my kids while I was out of work, it took me forever to collect all the documentation they requested. I had a file an inch thick or more. And when I turned it in, I was given a list of MORE stuff they wanted that they “forgot” to tell me about the first time. Of course, I am white, and I didn’t have any friends working in that office, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. And the “real” poor are indeed fat, but cause processed fattening food is cheaper than healthier food.

flashingscotsman November 19, 2012 at 12:26 pm

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I’d love to see someone bring a poor person from, oh, Zimbabwe, and show them one of our welfare sucking “poor” families. Tell THEM how bad our “poor” have it.

sa_rose November 19, 2012 at 10:23 pm

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While it is true that people in 3rd workld countries have far less than even our homeless, it is also true that their expenses are far less. They aren’t charged hundreds of dollars (or theequivalent) just for shelter. They are not expected to have lots of clothes, nor are theirchildren expected to have expensive computers, cameras and cell phones for their homework. Many who emigrate to the US are hassled to death for money now that they live in America, because the families back home don’t understand that $7.00 an hour buys very little here, while its a fortune there.