WAR! TRUMP, LEVIN PUMMEL ROVE AS CONSERVATIVE BATTLE ESCALATES. Rove only represents RINO’s, not to mention he’s about as big as one. What kind of hint do the Republicans need to ditch him? He ran McCain and Romney and had his fat ass handed to him by the Democrats. He needs to go and the faster the better.

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Joe February 13, 2013 at 10:54 pm

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Am I the only one who still distrusts Trump?

operanerd1986 February 14, 2013 at 12:03 am

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No; I do too. I think he is interested more in promoting himself than he is in anything else.

Jim Stewart February 13, 2013 at 11:08 pm

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No, Trump seems to be all about Trump.

But Levin seems like a straight shooter.

poppajoe49 February 13, 2013 at 11:17 pm

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If I had to choose between listening to Rove, and looking at Guilfoyle……….

Missile Command February 14, 2013 at 2:48 am

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Rove is always whining about how he raises sooo much money and supports all republican candidates. How he is being misunderstood and is not against conservatives at all. Golly, gee, some of my best friends are conservatives. He said he merely mentioned that some of the Tea party candidates were bad candidates, and that is why they lost. But he supports conservatives 100 %, really. Funny, I never heard him complain about ANY of the establishment RINO-types candidates that lost as being bad, ever. It’s only conservatives who select bad candidates. Conservatives can’t be trusted with the power to select candidates, apparently.

The guy is a tool of the establishment. He thinks he can hide his true intentions behind this whiny fast talk. He can just go away IMO. All he does is promote establishment do-nothing wimp candidates. We already have an excess of those.

Sidekick February 14, 2013 at 3:00 am

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I agree with your post but, man, the GOP should have the Senate were it not for some really bad candidates like Angle, O’Donnell, McMahan, Atkin, and Murdock. All of them were up against other weak candidates or vulnerable incumbents.

The Party needs to find away to unify. Rubio, like it or not, blew it the other night. He gave the savages on the left ammunition that has nothing to do with policy. So, someone else will have to emerge as a Party leader.

Missile Command February 14, 2013 at 3:39 am

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I agree some of these candidates were not so good. But were they really worse than the dems? Really? Angle or her dog would be better than Reid. Part of the problem is the establishment didn’t want these people and refused to support them fully. If they did some might have won. They got virtually no support from the establishment. Like the party just gave up and surrendered. Spoiled brats in DC didn’t get the candidate they wanted and so they didn’t want to win. This Akin (Atkin?) guy in MO was an example of that behavior. Sure he said something stupid. It was idiotic. But the dem opponent was far worse! Why not press the issue anyway? Why just give up? Why not try and win? Hell, Biden says stupid stuff all the time. If they did convince the guy to drop out and select another RINO instead, the press would have beat that one up on some stupid issue and we’d have lost too. These establishment people have a pretty poor record of being competitive themselves.

It is said that the conservatives are too stubborn and would rather back a poor candidate and lose than be reasonable and back a RINO. Looking at it from the other direction, the republican establishment would rather lose in the general election than support a conservative that beat their hand-selected RINO in the primary.

Sidekick February 14, 2013 at 5:13 am

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Again, I agree. You’re right – Akin – problem is these candidates were unable to turn out the vote. I think the candidates that the TEA Party endorses must have the bullet proof fiscal conservative credentials because that is their principle platform. Where I think it gets murky is when some of the religious or social issues are allowed to overshadow the “important” issues. Generally, the MSM and Democratic opponents use those wedge issues as a way to marginalize the GOP candidate. These Republicans need to learn to debate properly and stay on message.

While Romney was by no means a TEA Partier, he, like many TEA Party candidates, allowed the opposition to frame the political narrative. Romney probably cost the GOP some Congressional races because he was uninspiring and failed to turn out the vote. That brings me back to my other point….the Party needs a leader.

Sidekick February 14, 2013 at 5:36 am

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This ideological battle needs to happen or the GOP risks becoming unnecessary and irrelevant since its leadership is unwilling to separate itself from the progressives. Way too much compromise and capitulation up to now.

GhostntheMachine February 14, 2013 at 8:36 am

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Help me out here Kick, not arguing, hoping you’ll clarify;
“Rubio, like it or not, blew it the other night” He blew it in your mind and you now think less of him or he blew it by giving away the ammo as you said for the left to demonize?

And what ammo exactly do you think was a mistake? Seriously, I’m having a hard time bringing this into focus thinking I’m missing something (and I hate that happening)

Love to hear your take on this too when you have time

http://nation.foxnews.com/van-jones/2013/02/13/van-jones-fears-marco-rubio

Sidekick February 14, 2013 at 4:57 pm

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No problem, Ghost. Ask the average person about Rubio’s rebuttal and all you’ll get is the water incident. He made a good speech but it is irrelevant now thanks to the state run media. The left is afraid of this guy and they will leverage this forever. We know it’s hypocritical given the gaffes that BHO and Biden have made over and over. Doesn’t matter, Rubio will be smeared. I saw where MSNBC ran the film clip 155 times yesterday. The left wont let it go. These Alinsky tactics work and the average voter won’t take Rubio seriously after this. Bobby Jindel never recovered from his rebuttal.

I could be wrong since 2016 is a long way off but history suggests otherwise for Republicans. Democrats literally can kill people or rape young Dominican girls and it’s all good but that’s because no one expects them to have any standards least of all themselves. They are largely scum and that is an open secret but they are scum who give free stuff to a lot of people who couldn’t care less about character so long as they can sit on their asses while we support them.

Sidekick February 14, 2013 at 5:00 pm

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You want to see how vile the left is wait until you see them rip the shit out of Ben Carson. You know there are people going through his garbage cans at this point. His book,”America the Beautiful”, is pure poison to the left as is Rubio’s backstory.

GhostntheMachine February 14, 2013 at 5:22 pm

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Great, thanks, that’s where I was confused. I thought you were saying you personally had serious issues with what he said and could never support him and was driving myself crazy going over and over what he said trying to figure out what that could be.

And you’re right about them telling us who they’re afraid of, all you have to do is watch who they go after. Why I figured we were screwed when the all said what a wonderful candidate McCain would make.

I saw that stat about msnbc too, pathetic. And I still find Van Jones’ comments pretty interesting.

Sidekick February 14, 2013 at 5:27 pm

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Van Jones is the only honest leftist in this whole issue.

GhostntheMachine February 14, 2013 at 6:43 pm

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Oh, man, check this out Kick, this is great

https://www.reclaimamericapac.com/donate/water-bottle/?source=carousel

“If you donate $25 or more today, we’ll send you a Marco Rubio water bottle.”

“Meanwhile Rubio also announced that since his State of the Union response speech he has gained over 13,000 new followers on Twitter.”

poppajoe49 February 14, 2013 at 9:51 pm

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I believe that Rubio’s biggest mistake is getting involved in the immigration debate the way he has.
For true conservatives, he has committed the cardinal sin of supporting an amnesty. For the left, he hasn’t gone far enough to make them happy, or to support him. To the middle of the road/uncommitted voters, he is a non entity, he has proven he doesn’t believe what he claims to stand for, conservative values.

Progressive Hemrrhoid February 14, 2013 at 3:00 am

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Karl Rove is a Wimpy RINO Pimp. Yeah he supposedly raises a lot of money, but how much of that does he skim off for “Administrative Costs”?

Dan February 14, 2013 at 4:03 am

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It is easy to get rid of a Rove – start by ceasing all donations to anything he endorses. It would also help if pressure could be brought against FOX to end their ties with him – as they did with Dick Morris. Rove’s history in the past 2 elections has been awful. Show him you care…don’t send him another check. :-)

deepthinker February 14, 2013 at 6:17 am

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We must admit that there where a couple of very good conservative TEA Party Candidates that did step in it. The two that come to mind are the two that ran in Missouri and Indiana. I blame their campaign managers for not having them prepared for the all attack and the claim of war on women. As soon as it started with Limbaugh, ever TEA party candidate should’ve been ready to respond and turn the tables on those that where asking and accusing them of the war on women

Rove has never once backed a true conservative and he’s not about to start now. He’s just trying to line his lard ass up as a republican king maker. The republican establishment needs to remember that the Wigs once hand picked their candidates and chose not to listen to their members. Now they are no more. So all you blue bloods just keep it up and you will be gone too.

Navyvet2 February 14, 2013 at 1:47 pm

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I stopped giving money to the GOP close to 20 years ago. WHen they didnt have the backbone to go after a corrupt lying sleazebag like Slick Willie. And it’s only gotten worse. They wont want to offend the DNC lapdog media because the media might say something bad about them. How has that worked out time after time after time? How many times to these RNC morons have to get kicked in the balls before they fight back? Oh sorry, they dont have any so dont realize they have been kicked there.
BTW, I will give $$ directly to a candidate I support but I dont want the RNC skimming some to pay those absolutely incompetent buffoons working there a dime.

TonyMonterey February 14, 2013 at 2:20 pm

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The problem is none of the elected Republican’s will say what Trump, Levin or Limbaugh say.

flashingscotsman February 14, 2013 at 6:03 pm

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Seems to be a lack of balls.