12 more glaciers that haven’t heard the news about global warming

by editor on January 25, 2010

The glaciers are melting! The glaciers are melting! The glaciers are…uhhhhh…never mind.

Turns out the IPCC’s chicken little story that all the Himalayan glaciers are melting is just another exaggeration. Or fraud. Take your choice. You know, like the stats coming out of East Anglia CRU. And its claim that Antarctica is melting. And that Greenland’s ice cap is melting. And that sea levels are rising. And that the polar bears are dying. Fact is, some glaciers are retreating, but many others around the world are growing.

“But how is that possible? How can glaciers be growing when the world is warming up like a package of Jiffy-Pop in a microwave?”

Here are a dozen glaciers (or groups of glaciers) around the world that are growing almost as quickly as global warming skepticism.

1. Himalayan glaciers are growing, not shrinking

Things are not as they seemed to be in the IPCC report. Not only are the Himalayan glaciers not shrinking, they’re growing. Discovery reports:

Perched on the soaring Karakoram mountains in the Western Himalayas, a group of some 230 glaciers are bucking the global warming trend. They’re growing. Throughout much of the Tibetan Plateau, high-altitude glaciers are dwindling in the face of rising temperatures. The situation is potentially dire for the hundreds of millions of people living in China, India and throughout southeast Asia who depend on the glaciers for their water supply.

But in the rugged western corner of the plateau, the story is different, according to a new study. Among legendary peaks of Mt. Everest like K2 and Nanga Parbat, glaciers with a penthouse view of the world are growing, and have been for almost three decades.

“These are the biggest mid-latitude glaciers in the world,” John Shroder of the University of Nebraska-Omaha said. “And all of them are either holding still, or advancing.”

Source: Discovery

2. Alaska’s Hubbard Glacier. Growing. A lot.

Alaska’s Hubbard Glacier is advancing moving toward Gilbert Point near Yakutat at an average of seven feet per day.

The Army Corp of Engineers’ Hubbard Glacier website for has some great photos of the advancing behemoth.

Source: CDApress.com

3. Norwegian glaciers. Growing again.

IceAgeNow.com reports on the growth of Norwegian glaciers:

“After years of decline, glaciers in Norway are again growing, reports the Norwegian Water Resources and Energy Directorate. The actual magnitude of the growth, which appears to have begun over the last two years, has not yet been quantified, says NVE Senior Engineer Hallgeir Elvehøy.”The developments were originally reported by the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation (NRK).

Source: IceAgeNow.com

4. Glaciers growing on Canada’s tallest mountain

Canada.com tells the tale of glaciers growing on Canada’s tallest mountain:

“Canada’s tallest mountain, the Yukon’s towering Mount Logan, may have experienced a growth spurt.



“The University of Alaska aerial survey, conducted last summer with a laser altimeter by Fairbanks-based geoscientist Sandy Zirnheld, pegged Canada’s geographic zenith at 5,966 metres. That’s seven metres (23 feet) higher than the official height of 5,959 metres, determined in 1992 after a celebrated climb to the top by a team of Canadian researchers led by Mike Schmidt of the Geological Survey of Canada.



“Snow and ice accumulation is the most likely explanation,” Chris Larsen, the scientist leading the University of Alaska’s research on the continent’s northwest mountain ranges, said.”


Source: Canada.com

5. North to Alaska and more growing glaciers

Alaska’s glaciers have been in retreat for nearly 200 years. But now they’re advancing again.

MichNews.com reports the cold, hard facts:

“Unusually large amounts of Alaskan snow last winter were followed by unusually chilly temperatures there this summer. “In general, the weather this summer was the worst I have seen in at least 20 years,” says Bruce Molnia of the U.S. Geological Survey, and author of The Glaciers of Alaska. “It’s been a long time on most glaciers where they’ve actually had positive mass balance (added thickness).”

“Overall, Molnia figures Alaska had lost 10–12,000 square kilometers of ice since 1800, the depths of the Little Ice Age. That’s enough ice to cover the state of Connecticut. Climate alarmists claim all the glaciers might disappear soon, but they haven’t looked at the long-term evidence of the 1,500-year Dansgaard-Oeschger climate cycles. During the Little Ice Age—1400 to 1850—Muir Glacier filled the whole of Glacier Bay. Since then, the glacier has retreated 57 miles.

Source: MichNews.com

6. Glaciers are growing in California. California?

You might be surprised to learn that the Golden State has glaciers. And the Associated Press says they’re growing:

“Global warming is shrinking glaciers all over the world, but the seven tongues of ice creeping down Mount Shasta’s flanks are a rare exception: They are the only known glaciers in the continental U.S. that are growing.”

Source: FoxNews.com

7. A glacier is growing on Washington’s Mt. St. Helens.

Mount Saint Helens has glaciers? But it’s an active volcano. But, but, but…

KATU-TV reports the details:

“On May 18, 1980, the once bucolic ice-cream cone shape that defined Mount St. Helens in Washington state disappeared in monstrous blast of ash, rock, gas, and heat.

“Inside the volcano, which was once a soft dome of snow but is now a gaping, steaming menace with an unpredictable streak, an unexpected phenomenon is taking place: a glacier is growing.

“In these days of global warming concerns and scientists showing alarming then-and-now images of glaciers disappearing from mountainsides, it may be the only growing glacier in America – or maybe the world.

Source: KATU.com

8. Glaciers are growing in France and Switzerland, too

Another continent has reported in. According to an article in the Journal of Geophysical Research, glaciers are growing in France and Switzerland, too:

The research was conducted by six scientists from leading agencies and departments in France and Switzerland that deal with hydrology and glaciology. The research was funded by Observatoire des Sciences de l’Univers de Grenoble (OSUG), the European Programs ALPCLIM and CARBOSOL, and by the city of Chamonix Mont-Blanc.Vincent et al. collected a variety of datasets that could help them understand how the high-elevation glaciers of Mont Blanc were impacted by variations and trends in climate. Among other findings, they found that the mass balance of the glaciers is strongly controlled by precipitation, not temperature.

Vincent et al. state “The most striking features of these figures are the small thickness changes observed over the 20th century. For both areas, thickness variations do not exceed ±15 m. The average changes are +2.6 m at Dôme du Goûter (please note that this glacier is growing) and -0.3 m (-12 inches) at Mont Blanc.

“Considering the uncertainty interval, i.e., ±5 m, it can be concluded that no significant thickness change is detectable over most of these areas”. “All these results suggest that the SMBDôme du Goûter and Mont Blanc did not experience any significant changes over the 20th century.”

Source: World Climate Report

9. New Zealand’s largest glaciers are growing


Growing may not be a strong enough word. They’re surging. IceAgeNow.com reports the story:

Guides say the Franz Josef and the Fox glaciers continued advancing down their valleys in the past year and may soon be close to positions reached 40 years ago.

That (supposedly) contrasts sharply with the plight of many glaciers elsewhere on the planet, which are (supposedly) shrinking three times faster than they were in the 1980s, according to the World Glacier Monitoring Service (WGMS).

Franz Josef Glacier Guides base manager Tom Arnold estimated the Franz Josef and the Fox had advanced hundreds of meters in the past year.

Source: IceAgeNow.com

10. Russia’s glaciers are growing, too

The Russians don’t believe the IPCC forecasts, but they do believe their own eyes.

In 2002, a 22-million ton piece of ice broke off the gigantic Maili Glacier and crashed down a steep gorge into the village of Kami. It killed more than 150 people and injured hundreds more.The 500-foot wall of ice had been growing for six years. The Maili Glacier is just one of several glaciers in the North Caucasus Mountains that have been expanding at an alarming rate.

Other towns in the region have been partially buried by these advancing walls of ice. One local scientist in southern Russia said, “We may be seeing the beginning of a new great ice age!!!”

Source: IceAgeNow.com

11. Argentina’s Perito Moreno glacier is, you guessed it, growing

Is there a continent where glaciers aren’t growing? If so, South America isn’t one of them. Consider Argentina’s Perito Moreno glacier:

Nourished by Andean snowmelt, the glacier constantly grows even as it spawns icebergs the size of apartment buildings into a frigid lake, maintaining a nearly perfect equilibrium since measurements began more than a century ago.

“We’re not sure why this happens,” said Andres Rivera, a glacialist with the Center for Scientific Studies in Valdivia, Chile. “But not all glaciers respond equally to climate change.”

Source: IceAgeNow.com

12. Iceland’s Breidamerkurjokull glacier. Yup, it’s growing, too.

The Daily Mail UK ran a story on July 31, 2009 about the horrors of global warming. It was accompanied, for some inexplicable reason, by contradictory photos that showed the remarkable growth of Iceland’s Breidamerkurjokull glacier.

Their headline screamed, “How global warming is changing the face of the northern hemisphere.” The photos and caption told a story that was, you’ll pardon the expression, the polar opposite of what the article described.

Source: Daily Mail UK

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Michele
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But these are facts, damn it! Don’t you know the agw true-believers thrive on rabid and blind faith?

Maybe you’ve seen these Yale documents, but Al Gore via Yale univ (maybe others, too) and churches, is right this moment promoting climate change as religion. I know, I know… the agw hysterics already act like crazed zealots, but Gore is doing his best to ensure that the future generations are indoctrinated in Climatism – complete with prayers. I kid you not!

And I’ve got links to prove it:
http://aprilbaby.typepad.com/a_california_life/

John
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John

Phil Jones, head of the Climate Research Unit, to his colleagues in one of the emails leaked through Climategate:

“PS I’m getting hassled by a couple of people to release the CRU station temperature data. Don’t any of you three tell anybody that the UK has a Freedom of Information Act!”

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Lazarus Long
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Lazarus Long

So the IPCC’s accepted gospel of dissapearing glaciers is refuted by facts, and the warmists respond with “This proves that there IS AGW!”

Alrighty then.

wilbert robichaud
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wilbert robichaud

Various glaciers worldwide have been in retreat since the 1800s or the end of the little ice age and thus cannot be caused by man-made CO2. Glacial melting is also a good thing because it increase the available amount of fresh water.

Growing – 50 Glaciers reverse the trend and grow in south New Zealand (Taipei Times)
Growing – Bolam Glacier, Mount Shasta Glaciers Defy Global Warming, Grow (FOX News)
Growing – Briksdal Glacier, Norway’s glaciers growing at record pace (Agence-France Presse)
Growing – Dôme du Goûter Glacier, Permanent Ice Fields Are Resisting Global Warming (Science Daily)
Growing – Fox Glacier has been advancing since 1985 (Alpine Guides)
Growing – Franz Josef Glacier, A Glacier Grows, Undeterred by Heated Kyoto Debate (CNSNews)
Growing – Guyot Glacier, Icy Bay Glaciers get up and go (SitNews)
Growing – Himalayan Glaciers Are Growing … and Confounding Global Warming Alarmists (The Heartland Institute)
Growing – Hotlum Glacier, Mount Shasta Glaciers Defy Global Warming, Grow (FOX News)
Growing – Hubbard Glacier, Alaska: Growing and Advancing in Spite of Global Climate Change (USGS)
Growing – Johns Hopkins Glacier is advancing and moving 3000 feet per year (Glacier Bay National Park)
Growing – Jostedalsbreen Glacier, Norway’s glaciers growing at record pace (Agence-France Presse)
Growing – Kolka Glacier is growing again (NTV, Russia)
Growing – Konwakiton Glacier, Mount Shasta Glaciers Defy Global Warming, Grow (FOX News)
Growing – McGinnis Glacier, Alaska Range Glacier Surges (Science Daily)
Growing – Meares Glacier, an advancing glacier tearing up trees and rocks in its path as it grows (Alaska Tours)
Growing – Mont Blanc Glacier, Global warming makes Mont Blanc grow (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Growing – Mount St. Helens Glacier, Glacier Grows in Mount St. Helens’ Crater (FOX News)
Growing – Glacier resumes growing in Mount St. Helens crater (The Seattle Times)
Growing – Mud Creek Glacier, Mount Shasta Glaciers Defy Global Warming, Grow (FOX News)
Growing – Nigardsbreen Glacier is growing by 25 to 50 meters per year (Jostedal Glacier National Park)
Growing – Perito Moreno Glacier, Defiant Argentine Glacier Thrives Despite Warming (Reuters)
Growing – Pio XI Glacier, The biggest glacier in South America keeps growing every year (Visit Chile)
Growing – Rockies: Colorado: 100 More Glaciers Are Discovered (The New York Times)
Growing – Trinity Glaciers, Small Glaciers In Northern California Buck Global Warming Trend (Science Daily)
Growing – Tsaa Glacier, Icy Bay Glaciers get up and go (SitNews)
Growing – Watkins Glacier, Mount Shasta Glaciers Defy Global Warming, Grow (FOX News)
Growing – Whitney Glacier, Mount Shasta Glaciers Defy Global Warming, Grow (FOX News)
Growing – Wintun Glacier, Mount Shasta Glaciers Defy Global Warming, Grow (FOX News)
Growing – Yahtze Glacier, Icy Bay Glaciers get up and go (SitNews)
Why would the Guardian and the WMS only publish retreating glaciers and not the advancing/growing ones?
On the other hand David.. What would the world look like if Glaciers would never retreat and always advance?
Somethings tells me the word ” unprecedented ” is coming up.

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So is someone with some Rep going to Digg this baby? Getting thousands of hits an hour on it.

DavidC
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DavidC

So, you’ve found **12** glaciers that are allegedly growing?! Do you know what ‘confirmation bias’ means? How about ‘cherry picking’?

* World’s glaciers continue to melt at historic rates. Latest figures show the world’s glaciers are continuing to melt so fast that many will disappear by the middle of this century. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/25/world-glacier-monitoring-service-figures + http://www.geo.unizh.ch/wgms/mbb/sum08.html

You’re citing Fox News and the Daily Fail?! What a joke!

Thallus
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Thallus

Gee, “confirmation bias” and “cherry picking”. Isn’t that the modus operandi of the glorious, omnipotent and wise prophets of the IPCC? (Not to mention CRU, NASA, ad nauseum)

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wilbert robichaud
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wilbert robichaud

realclimate?? The same realclimate (M Mann) The Hockey stick inventor who is being investigated for data falsification lies and scientific interference?

Bob Maginnis
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Bob Maginnis

It is silly to claim the St Helens glacier as significant. There was no ice left after the eruption, so of course ice will accumulate on the shady side of the mountain. The important figure is “glacier mass balance” which you can find at Google. Here is just one link:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/05/glacier-mass-balance-equilibrium-or-disequilibrium-response/

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Bart
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Bart

“Fact is, some glaciers are retreating, but many others around the world are growing” Things are turned around here. Of course this should read:
“Fact is, some glaciers are growing, but many others around the world are retreating.”

Everyone is free to produce a scientific analysis to prove that the current scientific views on globally receding glaciers are wrong. If they really were, certainly by now there would have been papers published. Until then these kind of blogs say more about the authors political frustration then about the current state of the cryosphere.

Ronan
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Ronan

hear hear!

DoDoGuRu
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DoDoGuRu

Papers written? Sure.

Papers published? Not so sure. See “Climategate” and the scientific collusion to use the peer review process to silence their rivals.

Uriel
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Uriel

Where have you been? Such papers WOULD NOT get published. The entire “peer-reviewed” “scientific” journal industry has been co-opted by activists who take definite — and PROVABLE — steps to prevent contrary views from ever being published.

Moreover, how can anyone do such independent research if they cannot receive funding — which they cannot unless their results are pre-determined and support the global warming hoax.

Ty
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Ty

Right on !

Natalie Drest
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Natalie Drest

This is an expected effect of “climate change”, there may be a short period of glacial growth, before they disappear completely by this time next year….

We’re doomed Captain Mainwaring….

Doomed.

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KimmyQueen
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yippee more evian water for everyone…

ssm
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ssm

John W: “Please, no more of the “every change proves AGW” pseudo science.”

You mean “Voodoo Science” as ole “Birdbrain” Pachauri put it?

John W.
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John W.

PeterB January 25, 2010, 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm
Advancing glaciers? Ok, but then let’s put things straight first. An advancing glacier CAN also mean it’s melting fast, because it’s resources higher up are rapidly shrinking.

No. Glaciers advance when their mass increase due to precipitation (e.g. snow or freezing rain) exceeds mass loss due to evaporation, melt, calving, etc. They are static when mass gained (precipitation) equals mass loss due to evaporation, melt, calving, etc. They recede when mass loss to evaporation, melt, calving, etc. exceeds mass gain due to precipitation.

Please, no more of the “every change proves AGW” pseudo science.

PeterB
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PeterB

Sorry to say John, I did some glacier research and I happen to know a few things about how they work.
I agree you first need accumulation of snow and ice before it can start flowing faster and getting longer, especially when the temperatures are higher. And once this happens it gets thinner, which can cause more rapid melting off because of that: the surface is larger because of “flowing out”, also causing higher evaporation, and because it’s thinner higher temperatures affect the ice even more.

Uriel
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Uriel

You did some glacier research? Really? What did this consist of? Are you a glaciologist?

More directly, John W. is correct and you are incorrect.

What you’re describing would require a massive rapid melting along the entire length of the glacier. I hope that you’re not making that claim unless you can tell us where the enormous mass of floodwaters thus created has gone. Further, when such rapid melting has occurred (as at the retreat of the last Ice Age) water outflow is often blocked by an ice dam creating a glacial lake.

More directly relevant to Global Warming is that the major factor in glacial retreat is a decrease in “upstream” snow and ice accumulation — NOT an increase in temperatures at their terminus.

PeterB
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PeterB

Advancing glaciers? Ok, but then let’s put things straight first. An advancing glacier CAN also mean it’s melting fast, because it’s resources higher up are rapidly shrinking. It get’s longer, but it also get’s (a lot) thinner, losing more of it’s mass/magnitude by flowing faster!
This may well apply to no. 1,2,3, 6, 8. Only no. 5 clearly states it has a positive mass balance, so it’s actually growing thicker too.

But let’s have another sobering message: in Austria in the last 10 years only 2 out of 130 glaciers have been reported growing or stable. So maybe these 12 are the only ones growing worldwide??

Dave N
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Dave N

In the case of 5, 6 and 8, all the summaries say the glaciers are either thicker, or the thickness is unchanged. I haven’t dug any deeper regarding the others.

MichaelC58
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At face value, excellent bit of referenced research, worth disseminating.
…hang, on….glaciers advancing … is the recovery from little ice age turning around into renewed glaciation ….and I’m happy to hear it?
I guess the story would be more complete to add confirmed reports of retreating glaciers and make a net calculation. But then that’s what IPCC was paid big money to do, to review literature and make a scientific conclusion instead of one sided advocacy.

bikermailman
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bikermailman

Actually, the IPCC was chartered for the very purpose of one sided advocacy. It was designed from the beginning to find support for AGW.

Mr. Xyz
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Glaciergate–A relatively tame Hitler parody video

Glaciergate: Hitler’s Last Straw

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It’ll be a cold day in…what?…nevermind.

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