Exposing the Safelink Wireless government cell phone for the poor scam

by editor on March 11, 2009

Today we ran the story of Michelle Obama serving risotto at the soup kitchen down the street from the White House. She was surrounded by poor people frantically snapping photos with their cell phones.

If you’re anything like us (and we understand completely if you don’t want to be) you wondered, how can the poor afford cell phones, fancy ones with cameras? The monthly bills on these things can eat you alive. Is there some sort of free government cell phone service we didn’t know about?

Safelink Wireless Free Government Cell Phones

We were tipped off to the Safelink Wireless website. But please be warned that if you visit this site you are likely to walk away pissed off. Here’s what it says:

“SafeLink Wireless is a government supported program 
that provides a free cell phone and airtime each
 month for income-eligible customers.”

free government cell phone from safelink wireless

Hello? Hello? Can anyone hear us complaining about this outrageous abuse?

“Lifeline Assistance is part of a program that was created by the government to provide discounted or free telephone service to income-eligible consumers. To help bring you this important benefit, SafeLink Wireless is proud to offer Lifeline Service. Through our Lifeline Service you will receive FREE cellular service, a FREE cell phone, and FREE Minutes every month! SafeLink Wireless Service does not cost anything – there are no contracts, no recurring fees and no monthly charges.”

“Any Minutes you do not use will roll-over. Features such as caller ID, call waiting and voicemail are all also included with your service. If you need additional Minutes, you can buy TracFone Airtime Cards at any TracFone retailer Walmart, Walgreens, Family Dollar, etc). SafeLink Airtime Cards will be available soon.”

“Your exact benefits, including the number of free Minutes you will receive, depend on the state you live in.”

Free cell phone from Safelink Wireless: how to qualify

“The process to qualify for Lifeline Service depends on the State you live in. In general, you may qualify if…

  1. You already participate in other State or Federal assistance program such as Federal Public Housing Assistance, Food Stamps and Medicaid. OR
  2. Your total household income is at or below 135% of the poverty guidelines set by your State and/or the Federal Government. AND
  3. No one in your household currently receives Lifeline Service through another phone carrier.
  4. You have a valid United States Postal Address. In order for us to ship you your free phone you must live at a residence that can receive mail from the US Post Office. Sorry, but P.O. Boxes cannot be accepted.

In addition to meeting the guidelines above you will also be required to provide proof of your participation in an assistance program, or proof of your income level.

Un-freakin-believable. Outrageous. Shocking.

The way we read it, this Safelink Wireless program gives you a free cell phone, free monthly service, and free minutes. You qualify even if you make 35% more than the designated “poverty” level or if you’re already getting additional freebies from the government. And we see nothing that indicates you have to be a legal resident of the United States to qualify.

The site is also available in Spanish, leading to the not-too-unreasonable conclusion that a significant percentage of the free cell phones applicants conceivably could be, may be, might be undocumented aliens.

And, for God’s sake, we don’t even want to know how many of those filling out a Safelink application are currently stiffing a bank on a mortgage they never really qualified for in the first place.

We think we’re going to have a stroke. Would someone please call 911 on their free cell phone?

Note: Now Assurance Wireless (Virgin) and ReachOut Wireless (Nexus) are in the game. They plus other minor players account for 8 million government phones in circulation.

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Violet
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“The way we read it, this program gives you a free phone, free monthly service, and free minutes. You qualify even if you make 35% more than the designated “poverty” level or if you’re already getting additional freebies from the government. And we see nothing that indicates you have to be a legal resident of the United States to qualify.”

If you don’t understand the federal poverty thresholds and how they work, you really have no business blogging on the subject. Try reading, and maybe going to school.

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nancy
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the way I read it the government’s hand is in my pocket again, I have to say it again, a cell phone is not a necessary item. What did people do before them. My dad was a blind diabetic when i was young. we had no cell phone and he owned a small grocery store in town until the day he died. We had no help, we helped out in the store and at home. That is why families are important. We recieved no welfare or freebies, my dad would rather have died than not provide for us. Get a life and get a job. I’m sick of all this whining about how “I need it” “I am entitled” I don’t want to pay for your phone period!

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Violet
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Nancy,

When you were young, it was a different world. Everyone lived close to each other and we actually had landlines and there were payphones everywhere. I don’t know how you would call your doctor without a phone, or call a family member for help. Really, you would want a blind diabetic to do do what, . . . walk to the doctor’s office to make an appointment? By the way, if you don’t want to pay for a program to help the neediest people in the community, then don’t use a cell phone yourself. The program is paid for by fees from cell phone useage and not from mandatory federal income tax. You agreed that it is not a necessary item, so keep your money and stick with pay phones, honey bunch.

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Britton
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I don’t use a cellphone, never owned one and will not pay for one either. Did I run out and sign up for a free safelink phone? Hell No! I lost my job a few months ago as well. As for staying in touch with my family and friends? I just physically go and see them. I will say this though, they don’t live far away, in the same city and all. Not 4 states away. However, playing the sympathy card is total bull if you ask me. It’s garbage thinking such as that, that makes people glad to support government spending on useless programs.

I was watching the history channel the other day and I saw a show about America’s aging power grid. Why is it aging? Isn’t the government spending the tax dollars to keep it maintained, functional, and updated? Nope they sure aren’t, because there so many free loading assholes in America that they don’t have the spare cash between Wars and feeding/housing/clothing/cellphonein’ this country’s wretched population. Why bother right, who needs electricity as long as they got there safelink wireless phone!

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nancy
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No honey bunch I pay for my phone and minutes and on and on and on, I don’t want to be taxed through my property, my job or my cell phone to buy anybody anything they didn’t work for. I consider my phone one of the perks in my life, just like satellite tv and computers to name a few. If I lost my job tomorrow the first thing to go would be these kinds of things. Then i’d get another job and buy them again. I would still not have my hand out, I was raised to be a contributing member of society not a slacker! Honey bunch!

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Violet
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I pray that those of you who begrudge the needy because of this cell phone program never need anything from your fellow man. I have a mentally disabled brother and I am grateful everyday that he now has a phone to call me when he needs me, again. He lives in a run-down apartment in a studio that he shares with three other guys and they get their meals. After that, he has 54 dollars left. If he tried to work, then the very medication that he needs to keep him sane would be taken away from him. Why don’t you call your Congressmen and ask why medicare does not encourage people to work if you are so mad?

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kaj
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If it is so important that your brother have a phone to call YOU, why don’t YOU pay for his phone?

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violet
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Why? It helps you that he can call me if he needs help. That way, I can help him by going to pick him up if he is in trouble, or if he needs his meds. Also, if he calls me when he needs help, it is less likely that he will go to jail, which you would have to pay for. This program frees up money that I can use to assist in other ways. I guess no one in your family has any problems? There but for the grace of God go I.

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fedup
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If I ever get to the point where I need something from ‘my fellow man’ – I will go to him/her and ask for the help. I won’t have my government simply steal it from everyone. That’s what charities and churches are for. BTW, there would be many more charities – and they would have MUCH more money – if people didn’t feel paying their taxes absolved them of their duty to help their fellow man.

As it is, people would have considerably more money to donate if they didn’t have to pay their taxes for all these handouts. In fact, I’d bet many feel their debt to society is paid when they fill out their 1040. Imagine how much more money would be available to charities if they got the money directly instead of through some federal/state bureaucracy.

People should have a choice whether or not to donate – otherwise it’s not a donation. That’s what I don’t understand about people who take your position – like somehow that bad hand that was dealt to you makes it OK to forcibly steal it from those who have more. Don’t you understand, no amount of misfortune makes that acceptable.

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nancy
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HA! I just noticed that kyle and the dimestore b**** are both from Mass. what a coincidence. HA!

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The Dimestore Bitch
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Hey giant dumbskull! How’s it going? Do you understand that poor people are human too? And that we need to be able to call our doctors, lawyers and relatives too? I don’t know about other states but in Mass these great FREE cellphones that you think are soooooo outrageous provide the poor with all of 80 minutes a month.

I know, that’s a real burden on you even though you shop at Wal-Mart therefore ruining the environment AND the economy but you don’t care about labor abuse in China or about the fat on your wife’s thighs from McDonald’s french fries so why should you give a flying duck about people having phones. It just rubs you the wrong way that anyone gets anything for free.

Well, I bet you’d take it for free. You sure would. And lemme tell you something about all those workers at Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart encourages them to take it for free too. Since they don’t pay them enough to live they all qualify for state health insurance in most states (paid by your tax dollars) as well as food stamps (paid by… well you get the drift).

Oh, you a big man (or woman… or tranny) and you got yerself a blog.

Die.

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kaj
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Dimestore — The issue has nothing to do with:
whether poor are human or not
where someone shops
labor in Cina
fat thighs
french fries

I don’t know why you even throw these things into this discussion, other than perhaps to attack them as straw men and avoid the real issue, which is:

forcing some people to buy things for other people. Plain and simple.

If you support this sort of nonsense, then you believe it is right for the government to do your dirty work, which is: steal from hard working people at the point of a gun and hand it over to you. Congratulations, you are a socialist. Wait…no you’re actually just a thief whose excuses their theft by saying “the government says it’s ok”. Stealing is stealing, and knowingly receiving stolen property makes you just as guilty as the one who grabbed it.

My income level for last couple years has been within the limits for that free phone, but I’ve managed to pay for my own cell each and every month. If I can do it, anyone can.

So don’t assume that every person who is against government handouts is filthy rich. Some of us have a better tuned sense of right and wrong than you seem to.

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fedup
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A simple “thank you” would have done. You’re welcome.

Another shining example of how democracy killed our republic.

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nancy
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omg, the same people keep ranting about how nasty we are and how they need these “free” phones. Seems to me they are trying to convince themselves that it is okay to take, take, take! when in reality they know it’s wrong and shameful. Why do they seem so angry?! Shame and guilt are powerful emotions I guess. Have a nice day and fedup don’t leave!

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Renee
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Thanks for the heads up! I am back in school after years of being away, and two of my classes are at night. As a woman out on the road alone, I need a cell phone for emergencies… yes safety reasons. This deal sounds perfect to me. After working for forty (40) years. I’d like some free tax dollars given back my way. Hell! I paid into the tax pool long enough, without ever getting a handout. Thanks again!

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kaj
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Renee….cell phones haven’t been around forever. The “alone on the road” excuse is bullcrap.

What did you do when you drove somewhere “alone on the road” before you had a cell? I suppose you never drove anywhhere, right?

Are there millions of frightened women who have been hiding at home all these years, and now can enjoy driving alone for the first time? Sheesh, what a lame excuse.

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kim noble
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I can not believe that you would spend money housing animals but, have the nerve to bash the government for giving human being free cell phones. What you need to do is worry about is the needs of human being and not smelly animals.

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nancy
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Animals do not apply for tax payer backed programs, I give to many animal charities and don’t feel guilty at all. By the way what have you done for humans or animals. I’ve noticed usually the people who make statements such as yours don’t worry about anyone but themselves.

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billy
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Hey Nancy people that LOVE animals and have more compassion for animals are like that couse no one ever loved them so they have a lot of bad feelings and grudges towards other human beings…

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nancy
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Well billy I ask you the same question, what do you do to better peoples lives? Do you give to charities? I’d say probably not, you probably are your charity. Besides I don’t recall ever saying I LOVE animals more than people. Where are you coming from? Chill!

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fedup
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Nancy – I admire your compassion. I actually do care for animals more than humans. Humans, if they’re being harmed, or if they hurt, can call for help – they can explain what ails them. Animals – especially pets – cannot. Humans put themselves in harms way for many reasons – animals don’t. They need advocates, humans don’t.

Now, my real reason for posting… It’s clear that the last few posts have degraded to the point where the same troll (posting as multiple users) is simply out to bait and antagonize people with legitimate positions.

Unless some credible dialog presents itself, this will be my last post. I’d encourage you to do the same.

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Ken
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Please don’t wait……. Stop Now!!!!! Think of all the good you’ll be doing!

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fedup
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Screwtape – GS is definitely the man behind the curtain, but that doesn’t lessen the egregiousness of the social handout program this Safelink is. Two wrongs don’t make a right.And, while GS may in fact be the ‘bigger guy’, it is the handouts like Safelink that lulls the constituency to sleep.

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tannes
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What’s wrong with helping Americans for a chenge? We help everyone else. How many other countries ask for help and our gov rushes to help them? I’d rather see my tax money go to help Americans in need then all these other countries that wouldn’t help us even if they could!

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steffers
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I agree with tannes..if we are going to help a country, ours should come first

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fedup
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What’s wrong with Americans? Your last post sums it up. Everyone wins, everyone gets something for nothing, no one has to pay for it. What the hell… XYZ is getting a hand out, so why ABC too. It has to stop. It will stop. We’re watching it stop right now, live on TV. Slow motion crash of the markets as I write this.

Got GOLD?

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Teresa is fed up with stupidity
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Teresa is fed up with stupidity

Some of you people act like every penny spent on social programs came out of your pocket, personally. You do realize that we ALL pay taxes? And even foreign countries pay some taxes to do business with us? And business’ pay taxes? I promise it isn’t all out of your pocket.

I can also tell you something because I have first hand knowledge. When budget cuts are made, its the social programs that are cut first. Some of my handicapped children have done without necessities due to cutbacks. And maybe you don’t think so, but being mentally retarded w/cerebral palsy really is a handicap. (Think about it next time you park in that handicapped parking spot.)

You complain and complain about the Democrats, but they BALANCED THE BUDGET! George W. and his cronies are the ones that shot that all to hell. Now that a Democrat is trying to fix the screw ups again, you want to bitch. Some people would complain if they were hung with a new rope.

What proposals do you have to fix the economy? I see your lips moving but all I hear is whine, whine, whine….make some legitimate proposals. And remember, you have many, many, many people to please. So be careful what you propose, lest you be accused of wasting money or sued by the CLU. Be nice to everyone or someone will say something ugly about your birth, your heritage, your upbringing, your preacher or your mother.

Geez! Give me a break! How are you EXPOSING a government program that has been public policy for years? The only thing I see exposed here is intolerance and ignorance of the laws and of public policy. Any moron who can rub two brain cells together can find all this information out from the government. So why do they need you to expose anything?

I suppose that my son, who is about to be shipped off to Iraq is taking something away from you when he gets back and uses his GI Bill to get an education? I promise you that he is going to pay for that education-maybe even with his life. All so you people can have the right to say whatever you want on here. And this is what you choose to say?

Like I said in an earlier post-if you aren’t part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

And fedup, this isn’t necessarily directed at you-it just happened to be where I stopped reading after REALLY getting fed up.

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YES
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Teresa you are completely right – the national debt has been cut in half since Obama took office! The Democrats saved us, just like they always have!Exactly where are you getting your facts, that the Democrats balanced the budget? Increasing the ceiling on the National Debt is “balancing” the budget? What? Well, I guess in that case I’ll go out a buy myself a new car and live with debt up to my eyeballs like 75% of this country. If you can’t afford something, you shouldn’t have it, unless it is a NECESSITY. Food is a necessity. Clothing is a necessity. Shelter is a necessity. But cell phones are NOT a necessity. I suppose the idea of borrowing a phone or using a landline phone is too lowly and degrading these days?

And no, not all of these social programs are paid directly from my pocket or the pockets of everyone else who is middle class – but a lot of them are. We are sustaining social programs while meanwhile I will probablly never be able to make use of them, because by the time I am old enough to qualify for social security it’ll be down the tubes.

I have NO problem paying for those with legitimate needs. In fact, I’m even willing to give more than what the government requires, and I do – I donate to charities. Just because I don’t support a free cell phone service doesn’t mean I’m againt helping people. But you of all people, who have “..handicapped children [who] have done without necessities due to cutbacks.” should not support a program like this. I’d rather see my hard earned cash go to someone like you, who clearly deserves the help than some ass hole sitting at home talking on his free cell phone.

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Kathy
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Teresa,

Since you are obviously a liberal, I will type slow. The democrats did not balance the budget, the republicans did. The balanced budget act of 1997 was written by a majority republican party. It and the welfare reform act were both republican bills and they reduced entitlement spending, which is the only way we will ever reduce the deficit. Look around you. The liberals have all the cards and they are spending…not balancing.

I raised my son as a single mom. Most of the time I did not have a phone, and a good deal of the time I did not own a car. Hell, we didn’t even have a t.v. I contend that if you can afford to drive kids all over town and internet service…then you can afford a phone for emergency purposes.

But that is not even the point. The point is that we cannot afford these entitlement programs, nor do we really want to. You have only to look across the ocean to see what socialist entitlement programs do to ruin a country. And they harm the very people they are designed to help. These programs sell…for a few dollars..the most important things you have….hope, honor, pride and self respect. Far from lifting people out of poverty, these programs have created generations of people who have lost hope of ever living the American Dream.

There are many solutions being put forth by conservatives, if you don’t know what they are then you are watching too much of the liberal media and not enough listening to conservatives. Contrary to what Obama and his regime love to say…Bush did not create the problems we face today.

I will leave you with two points…..

1. Our government was designed by the founders to be small. The best thing our government can do for her people is create an environment whereby people can have the freedom to run their own lives. Less government= a people more free.

2. Countrys and companys do not pay taxes. It is not possible. People pay taxes through countrys and companys. To tax a company is to tax the people who purchase their products. That is a simple fact of life, and if liberals would learn it, we might actually be able to acomplish things.

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floridagirl9
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YOU GO GIRL! I agree with you 100%.

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garlicnosedho
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Teresa, it worries me that you say here that your handicapped foster children “have done without necessities due to cutbacks” (despite that in an earlier post you claimed to know how to get from the govt what the kids need).

If I had to put my developmentally disabled brother in a foster home, God forbid, his foster parents would get a monthly financial payment from the govt–for HIM not THEM! (And I won’t even address the irony of govt assistance to strangers…)

What are you doing with the money? Get those kids the NECESSITIES! Or find families that can afford to properly care for them. Their needs come first.

If I knew your address, I’d make your neglect public. How dare you lecture anyone else. You’re an abusive foster parent.

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Teresa is fed up with stupidity
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Teresa is fed up with stupidity

Your ASS-U-Ming worries me. I never said I was the children’s FOSTER mother-you ASSUMED. Second, my children did do without some necessities, until I learned how to move government agencies. We don’t get the kind of assistance check that you are referring to. Our son gets SSI. If you have a developmentally delayed sibling who receives SSI, then you know that every penny spent has to be accounted for to the government’s satisfaction.

Does your brother have EVERYTHING he needs? Or just most?

You see-that is the problem with most of the people who post on here-you assume, jump to conclusions, make up your own stories in your own minds to match what you assume you heard. To hell with the actual facts!

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garlicnosedho
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On May 14 you said: “It is your choice to have children or not. It was my choice to help handicapped children who could not help themselves and had no choice in being born.” That is a fact. See above.

One can rightly infer that you are their foster mother.

And yes, my brother gets all the “NECESSITIES” [your word, which has very specific meaning] even when I have to do without. Dependent people come first.

You might want to read over your previous posts so that you can keep your lies straight.

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Teresa is fed up with stupidity
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Teresa is fed up with stupidity

Again, you assume. You could also rightly infer that I was their step-parent or even an adoptive parent. I didn’t tell my entire life story here. Neither did you. You also infer that my husband and I did not do without necessities at the time. You would be wrong.

In Norfolk, Virginia, on tonight’s newscast there was an announcement that VITAL services are being cut that provide for about 65 handicapped people. Are those people families going to be targeted by your bigotry and ignorance as unfit caregivers because the community had to cut services?

I want to hear what you have to say when your brothers VITAL services are cut, as they will be. “Necessities” can mean many things when you are referring to a handicapped child. Just because you choose the narrowest view of the word, does not mean anyone else does.

I never told a lie. I am a good Christian. If you choose to ass-u-me, it just highlights what a narrow minded, bigoted, ignorant person you are. Our home is payed for, with all the special devices needed by our special needs children. Like I also said above, we had a retirement plan and money in the bank for the children’s college fund-Yes, I have high hopes for our children. Then my husband was diagnosed with cancer. Goodbye retirement fund, college fund, ANY extras. Hello welfare.

If you really want to make a difference, like I said above-if you aren’t part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Right now all I see is someone who is so angry that she would attack anyone and make up stories to fit what you THINK you read. Go back and re-read my posts yourself. NEVER did I state that I was a foster parent.You ass-u-med. Where I come from, before you shoot, you find out the whole story. Where you come from, what? Shoot and ask questions later? Get anger management, lady. You are in dire need.

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waterhue
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Isn’t it interesting the services that are usually cut or threatened to be cut are those that are the most needed. When my state wants to increase taxes the politicians just threaten to cut education, police, firemen, and not government spending by suggesting cuts in salary, etc. They know how to work the people into a frenzy. Our state buget is very tight and guess what is on the chopping block? yep education.

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Britton
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Yeah I always wondered who was behind the financial problems of the United States for the last 100 or so years. I had my ideas and theory’s but with only ominous connections like the “Fed” and such. If it seems like things have just been getting worse and worse for no apparent reason for everyone, it’s because it has. Screwtape has a valid point, if the cell phones for “the poor” pisses you off then check out this article about Goldman Sachs and there “rape job” on the American public

Find it here:
http://www.correntewire.com/great_american_bubble_machine_0

fedup you’ve probably already read it

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Whipper
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Britton, I don’t think we shoul dhave bailed out anyone. Goldma Sachs are criminals just like AIG. You have to ask yourself why where certain companies given bailouts but other where left to fail. AIG holds Congress’s pension plan so of course they got money.

The bottom line is I am tired of seeing money get wasted on social programs, bailouts, and stimilus bills. Enough is enough. Time to implement the Fair Tax.

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Britton
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Yeah its a sad day when ultra elite and rich business owners can get better assistance than a homeless man on the streets. I guess the human race still needs a few hundred thousand more years of evolution, because from my stand point it looks like the whole world is being run by neanderthals. I don’t like to see money wasted on useless programs any more than the next guy. The cellphones for the poor deal, useless, and I don’t care what any of you say. They are a waste of money, now food assistance, yes that is a good one and I can see putting money in a pool for that as useful. Section 8, its good as long as its not just some lay around looking for a free home, when they know good and well they could afford something.

But ultimately the finger pointing can always go back to the greedy of society, the ones who still have way to much silver-back DNA floating around in there genetic cores. They have it all and will step on anyone to make sure they keep and get more.

I have never been rich, and I have nothing of value to my name, credit is shot and the only thing keeping me from being homeless on the streets at this time is minor side work here and there and support from my family. I’ll go live under a bridge if I must, but I really hope that America’s job market is not gone forever. I’ll never be able to afford to move to China and find a job there, nor would they let me.

Don’t you see, each race takes care of there own, and its been this way for centuries on top of centuries, and the mixing of so many diverse cultures in one spot on the globe is creating more problems than it fixed. Internal fighting and squabblling amongst the regular folks while the federal, state, and local governments turn a blind eye and hope you don’t notice them stuffing there pockets with your money (aka hard work).

It’s like talking to a brick wall with some folks, they just never get it. Mental limitations I suppose, but those that are ignorant are doomed to be slaves of those that know better.

Enjoy the ignorance 🙂

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violet
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OMG. I just realized that you have been posting about this for months now. Maybe you need anger management. Or a pill. Let go and let God.

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Britton
Member

????

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Britton
Member

No Violet, I don’t need a pill and I sure as hell won’t look to God for support and back up on this issue. I’m not even going to waste my time with a lengthy response to your banter.

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Shelley
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That is where you will fail everytime in every situation! Without God your nothing or nobody…and you will find that out the hard way

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fedup
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Tell that to the 7 year old with terminal cancer. Too young to know God, too young to be responsible for any ‘sin’. Yet, his last few months of suffering and torture are allowed to happen by your God? I tell you, if your God does exist, and He is all powerful, and nothing happens without His approval, then I want NOTHING to do with such a cold, evil bastard. If you somehow can justify this type of cruelty and suffering, good for you. I’m not that simple-minded.

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amber m
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This child is going to be with his Father, where he will no longer be suffering. A seven year old is not too young to know God. My children have known God, from day one. We are born with sin, every one of us, including you. You think that God, was not with him. I will bet you that the 7 year old had more faith and compassion than other healthy person. I am pity you fedup. I am sorry that you have called God a cold, evil, bastard. But, I take solice, in knowning that even you are God’s child. There is nothing simple about God. Faith is very complex.

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Ken
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People like “this”? How about people like “you”? It takes two to tango and to tangle.

BTW, Nancy, it is so gracious and considerate of you to “make sanctions for the mentally challenged”. I’m sure there’s a seat in heaven waiting for you, a big throne. I’ll make sure I dust it off for you should I get there before you. I hope I do go first. We need more of your type “making sanctions” here fighting for the cause!

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nancy
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You’re welcome Ken, I hope you go before me too!

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KYLE~!!!!!!!!!!!
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NOTE to EVERYONE!…….there will always be people that have and people that have not!…..some people that have not are couse they r to lazy to get anything . But that is in the minority…..most people that have not are for reasons out of there control. Like economics poor financial decision and just bad luck…now there are people that have…and for multiple reasons…very small percentage is from actual hard work ….most from blue collar crime cheating the system to work to there benefit. A lot were lucky or there parents were lucky PLAIN AND SIMPLE ……so before u judge people that need this phone….Really look into it and see it from both sides of the fence.

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kaj
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Kyle — Are you sure you know what you’re talking about? Here’s a definition of blue-collar crime:

“In criminology, blue-collar crime is any crime committed by an individual from a lower social class as opposed to white-collar crime which is associated with crime committed by individuals of a higher social class.”

You contradict yourself. You’re saying that most socio-economically successful people (those who “have) only got that way because of blue collar crime, that is doing crimes typical of lower socio-economic groups (the “have nots”). LOL.

In addition, I’d like to point out that “poor financial decisions” do not qualify as something beyond someone’s control. Since it is a decision, it is indeed well within someone’s personal control.

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nancy
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Oh, Kyle, you cannot attack on that front since you have no clue! But if that makes it easier for you to handle than if it came from a beautiful above I.Q. woman that’s okay. I do make sanctions for the mentally challenged.
I do have a question however, If you can stop ranting for an instant.
Why is it that when people are well off or not holding their hand out it is because of dishonesty or “luck”? Not because they worked hard and suffered or endured through the hard times. But when someone wants something for nothing as you do it is because life dealt you a bad hand. Do you have a reasonable answer for that?
I also have an observation, I have been reading these postings for a while now and my hypothesis is this, You have little to no education as you claim and you have not made $125,000.00 your whole entire life. God bless your miserable little existence. You might be low enough on the food chain to be euthanized. Good day Little man!

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fedup
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All great and valid points, Nancy. But don’t let this troll push your buttons. He is not interested in dialog. Ignore him. He, and his other alter-egos will go away.

BTW – Admin, I posted earlier today about being able to block the troll… I don’t see that post (or his reply about using proxies). Are you censoring?

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nancy
Member

fedup, I know you are right, but every once in a while you can reason with a person like this. I just don’t know why they would even post to this site in the first place. I’m sure there are sites just for people like this. Thanks for the little wake up though, have a great day!

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nancy
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Kyle=seriously below average I.Q.

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Cecil56
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I really do not see why the plan is getting such negative feedback. None of us here complain about paying social security, even though by the time most of us qualify for it, it will already have been depleted. It’s not socialism, nor is it redistribution of the wealth. Right now, the country is facing serious economic turmoil. This is temporary. Although our cell phone taxes are going to this program, it is going towards something that is benefitting a lot of people. The plan gives 68 free minutes and a phone. Its a great plan for those who need it. Lets not be mad that were helping out those who need it. Were in a time where we need to work together…

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Southern Girl
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I agree, some of these people are so inconsiderate. What happen to christianity and God-like manner. I betcha most of these heartless people, claim to be Christians and be in church every Sunday. What’s wrong with Americans helping Americans in time of need. In no way, I do I believe that some should work while other jerk off but lets be real here, most people who get any type of government assistance are usually people who have worked all of their lives 9the Seniors) and people who work everyday some of them two jobs. Not everyone receiving government assistance are lazy scum bags, most are very hard working people who just cant keep up with inflation. Let’s be honest, inflation has significantly outpaced wages in this country. And with the ongoing competition with foreign workers, Americans simply can’t compete, not even the most educated Americans. It’s simple and unfair, a Chinese worker can work for $10 per week cause the cost of living is not nearly as high as it is in America. We simply cant compete anymore which is driving many American companies overseas and many leaders of these companies are illigetimately hiring illegals so they can pay a lot less w/out benefits. Who do you think suffers…the American man who has worked since he was 13 in some field or manufacturing plant, or construction worker, or janitor who lost his job cause some illegal foreigner was hired to do the job for less w/out benefits. You can’t conclude that the American man was lazy or feel entitled, its just the circumstance. It’s the way many of our American companies are choosing to run businesses nowadays. And the question becomes Does the American man who has worked and paid taxes for 55 years be able to get assistance cause his job of 35 years went overseas right before he was able to draw a full pension? My answer is heck yes he should be able to get assistance, what rational reason should justify him not getting support. He has put more money in the system than what he will probably get out of it.

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Lester
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Cecil,
“None of us here complain about paying social security, even though by the time most of us qualify for it, it will already have been depleted. It’s not socialism, nor is it redistribution of the wealth.”
I realize I’m not exactly a famous columnist, but I do complain about Socialist Insecurity all the time, in writing and verbally. Yes, it is socialist, it is wealth redistribution, but worst of all it is a Federally Mandated Ponzi Scheme. I don’t invest my money in Ponzi schemes voluntarily, they’re not mathematically sound. Therefore I resent having my money taken from me at gunpoint and put into one. I have no expectation whatsoever that I will ever see a penny of it back.
“Lets not be mad that were helping out those who need it.”
I suppose you have personally checked out all the people who are benefiting from this program? If not, you have no basis in fact for your statement. Oh, that’s right, you had your government check them out to make sure they are truly victims of circumstance, and none of them are lazy freeloaders, just like the rest of the welfare programs. You’re truly an idiot.

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kaj
Member

Social security is NOT redistribution of wealth??? Are you daft?

Money is taken away from ME and handed out to OTHERS. That is a perfect example of redistribution of wealth.

Man, I cannot believe how naive people can be.

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fedup
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I’ve said it before but it bears repeating –

Government does not produce revenue or wealth. It cannot give to one group that which it does not take from another.

Any tax break, incentive, entitlement, or handout is always at the expense of someone else. Government is, in its purist sense, wealth redistribution.

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Administrator
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“None of us here complain about paying social security”

Really? I don’t know one person who does not complain about paying Social Security.

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rebecca
Guest

could this be another way to bankrupt our country further and down the road to socialism? it’s all in the plan!

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Leticia
Guest

I agree with the article almost completely…except for one thing: they actually ask every applicant for a valid Social Security number, which kind of rules out the possibility of illegal immirgants accessing these services.

And hey, just because it’s freebie after freebie doesnt mean it shouldn’t be happening; it’s about improving these people’s quality of life.

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kaj
Member

It improves one person’s quality of life…..by LOWERING SOMEONE ELSE’S. This kind of program forces some people to labor for the benefit of another. Last time I checked, forced labor for others was called “slavery”.

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Britton
Member

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nancy
Member

Dear Dawn, eww!!!

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DAWN
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AND TO KYLE DONT YOU HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO THAN WORRY ABOUT WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DISHING OUT I PAY TAXES ALSO IDIOT AND AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED I GET WHATEVER THE GOVERNMENT IS GIVING FOR FREE EVEN FOOD STAMPS B/C THERE FREE AND I DONT CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK I ALSO WORK A FULL TIME JOB AND GO TO SCHOOL……WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT KYLE?

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fedup
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I wouldn’t come down to hard on Kyle, Dawn. I think he’s right there in the same gravey-train-for-me-cause-it’s-free ride as you.

I fixed it for you:

AND TO [FEDUP] DON[‘]T YOU HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO THAN WORRY ABOUT WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DISHING OUT [?] I PAY TAXES ALSO IDIOT[,] AND AS FAR AS I[‘]M CONCERNED[,] I GET WHATEVER THE GOVERNMENT IS GIVING FOR FREE [-] EVEN FOOD STAMPS B/C THERE (they’re or they are) FREE[,] AND I DON[‘]T CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK[. ] I ALSO WORK A FULL TIME JOB AND GO TO SCHOOL[.]

While at school, have them spend a little more time on your writing skills. Now that reasonable punctuation and grammar skill have been applied to your post, I think I understand what you’re trying to say. Let me see if I get it:

You work. You pay taxes. You get whatever is free from the government (food stamps) because, well, they’re free, and of course you have no regard with what anyone else think.

Or in the most simplest form: U get yo shit fo free, so f*ck off – right? Something like that?

Ok, so here’s the problem with that position (IMO).

1) It’s not free. Someone is paying for it. Quick fact of physics and economics regarding government assistance. Government produces no tangible revenue or product. It sells nothing. I cannot give money or services to one group without taking it from another. Very simple.

2) Because you feel it’s free, and you’re entitled to it, you enable the government to continue to steal from Peter so he can pay Paul (you).

3) You like these benefits, so, should you decide to vote, you will be more likely to vote for a government that gives you free things. (that’s human nature). And due to the Idiocracy (movie) like tendency of people like you to reproduce at a rate 100x higher than my ‘kind’… well, my vote doesn’t count any more.

4) It’s ‘only food stamps and a few minutes on cell phone’… it’s not a big deal. WRONG. It is one of the many millions of cuts that are bleeding our country to death.

5) The fact that you don’t care about what anyone else thinks – namely those that are paying for your free stuff – make the rest of us very resentful and bitter.

6) That frustration will ultimately lead to violence – as I see no end to feeding this beast.

Another Ambien high – I ramble too much under the influence…

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Andre
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Hey, “fedup”, how about changing your name to “shutup”? Judging by the times of your postings, I assume that you are not a typical “9-to-5″er, for if you were you wouldn’t be making the posting as at the times shown. If you were, you would be doing something other than the I’m-sure-it’s-so-vital-and-honorable job that you have. If you’re a punk-assed college student…. LEARN SOMETHING!!!

I have worked in the Engineering field for over 30 years, caring for my family, putting myself through college. Due to a heart condition I developed, I am unable to work. Three open heart surgeries, stents, an implantable defibrillator and numerous heart attacks and cardiac arrests have made this impossible. If I paid into a program for thirty years, essentially an insurance program, why can’t I collect on it now that I am disabled? Because of this heart problem, I don’t have a wife, a car, a house, and at times food. There is nothing wrong with getting something you deserve, wheteher it’s finacial assistance, food stamps (see, two words) or a phone. Speaking of getting what one deserves….. how about I drive next to you next time my defibrillator fires? We’ll wreck, you’ll be unconscious. I’ll awaken first, but golly-garsh-ding-dong-dag-nab-it… I won’t have a phone to call 911 to help you because I won’t have a phone!

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fedup
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I’ve logged 150k miles flown this year covering sales for my company. Technology makes the world a smaller place – instant updates from posts like yours – and real time access. Sorry if my ability to keep current on this subject makes me less credible to you. I work with many, many engineers – a very conservative bunch by nature.

I’m sorry life has dealt you a bad hand. I wish you well.

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Britton
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I was going to comment on Dawn’s post, but I don’t need to now. Fedup did such a wonderful reply so I no longer need to. Her comments are “group think” all the way. Typical uneducated banter about a subject that she knows so little about that it scares me. She gets them because they are free?¿!¿?! WTF is wrong with you woman.

Does any of you that are saying how good and right all the government assistance programs are understand that they are a type of “assistance” for folks who are destitute. Getting them just because they exist is insane, and if you are working and getting assistance to, well then that is just greed. The fact is the money you think your getting for free is not free, its will be paid for sometime in the future on earnings that haven’t even been earned yet. The taxes the government is getting today are paying for handouts given several years ago.

So the real question is, who going to pay for your 6 kids medical bills, section 8 home, light bills, tanif and your supposedly dead or unknown “baby’s daddy” (you know perfectly well where he is, sucking on the tit of society right along with you). I’ll tell you who’s going to pay for all that, LOANS to the US government from other countries. So what happens when the other countries finally say, “No we don’t have anymore money to feed your lazy population” Well my friend, that’s when the shit hits the fan. Watch in wonder as the government starts to kill off social programs faster than they were created in a pathetic attempt to recover from leeching losers like Dawn, Kyle, Kim and about 150 Million others like them (actual numbers will vary). Just watch as each state scrambles to try and find a way to pay billions in handouts on a 900,000 dollar budget. Oh hell just go play the lottery while your at it to. You got enough money to buy a 65,000 dollar car with 10,000 dollar rims and a sound system that rivals most movie theaters but “OH NO” I can’t buy my kids food and clothes. Please do us all a favor and go jump off a bridge! Preferably one with out water under it.

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KYLE~!!!!!!!!!!!
Guest

I love the phone!!!!!!!!!!..wohooo curerently applying for masshealth and section 8 hope i get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WISH ME LUCK!!!!!

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kaj
Member

Britton, they don’t care. They’ve been raised in liberal-tainted school systems, where personal responsibility doesn’t exist and they are all taught they are helpless victims of somebody or something. The reason they can’t get ahead is never ever due to anything they might have done. They are also taught that the gov is their master, rather than the other way around.

I could go into some religious theology at this point about the general breakdown of society that I’ve witnessed in my own lifetime, but I doubt it would go over well with the admins here. Sufffice to say that the old biblical saying “love of money is the root of all evil” is what is at the heart of most of the problems in this country today. Greed, in otherwords. Greed in the form of CEO millionaires that steal yet more millions, all the way down to people like Dawn who think that, just because the gov says its right, it *is* ok to take from others.

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DAWN
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I THINK THE PROGRAM IS GREAT I GET MY MINUTES ON TIME EVERY 1ST OF THE MONTH FOR ER’S AND IM SATISFIED…..AND TO MICHELLE OBAMA YOU GO GIRL I ROUTING FOR YOU AND MR OBAMA 🙂 WE ALWAYS HAVE THE CITIZENS WITH MONEY KNOCK PROGRAMS LIKE THIS BUT I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE MORE PROGRAMS LIKE IT FOR THE LESS FORTUNATE….THANKS VERY MUCH TO ALL OF YOU WHO FEEL DIFFERENT B/C IT REALLY DOESNT MATTER

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Lee
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And now good bye boys and girls I have a life can’t sit here all day whinning like all you all so Peace Out!!!!

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Lee
Guest

Pot calling the kettle black? hardly your over rated opinion spurred mine on!

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fedup
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Admin – IP’s logged?

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Lee
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nope your wrong don’t know Kyle new to this forum sorry!

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Lee
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Your way of thinking on this subject is slanted!
seriously, think for a moment if you would about this…
You bust your hump for 15 yrs with a company and do to
the economy your job is phased out. You find yourself
strapped for money that unemployment isn’t covering
everything you pay check did. Shut off notices come in
the banks on you to repay your loan your car payment
is 3 months behind your child needs glasses and to see a
dentist. Your mortgage company is threatening foreclosure
You have nothing left your strapped because your unemployment
just ran out! You can’t even buy a loaf of bread! Your about
to kill yourself because you can’t support your family
anymore, the kids are hungry. Your neighbor says go
get help get welfare until you find a new job. You shallow
your pride after all the kids need food, a roof, clothes
heat lights. So you apply.
You get a grant stamps medical and a cell phone.
the grant pays for a cheaper place to live the heat the
lights the food stamps fill hungry little tummies, the
medical takes care of the dental visit your child needs
the cell phone keeps you out there actively looking for work
even when the land line phone has been shut off for none
payment.

People use your heads in everything there’s a good and bad side
it’s how you look at it that matters, And I for one personally like
knowing theirs some system out there to help me if I need it despite
over rated and over opinionated jerks like you guys!

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kaj
Member

Lee—-If someone needs to go on government support cause they can’t make their car payment, then they need to sell the car and buy something cheaper before they go begging for handouts. Ditto on a mortgage. Both of these things are DEBT. Signing on the dotted line for a loan of any kind is a gamble….it’s a gamble that one will have the future earnings to pay the debt off. If someone loses the job that pays those debts, looks like they lost the gamble doesn’t it? Why should that be someone else’s problem?

The solution is easy. Don’t go into hock for more than one can cover working part time or while getting unemployment. Even better is to not go into debt at all.

I really despise the “it’s for the children” tactic. Its a typical tactic to attack anti-entitlement folks by implying that they are against children. Let’s have some personal responsibility here. The mom & dad in your example weren’t thinking “its for the children” when they signed for a shiny new car were they? Did they think of the children when they gambled on signing for a big fat mortgage, which clearly states that the bank gets the house if they don’t pay? Give me a break.

People need to start living within thier means. Gambling the roof over their kids head because they want more house than they can afford is where the real problem is. It isn’t with people who don’t want to bail their asses out.

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kyle c
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u sir are a very very smart man….i have been getting these comments in my email…and u sir were the only one worth responding back to

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fedup
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Kyle = Lee… Whoda thunk.

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kyle c
Guest

this is the kyle u were talking about i got banned awhile back…was reading comments that came to my email and decided to come back to congratulate that guy on the best comment yet on this blog!

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fedup
Guest

“And I for one personally like knowing theirs [SIC] some system out there to help me if I need it despite over rated [SIC] and over opinionated jerks like you guys!”

This is what we affectionately know as the pot calling the kettle black.
BTW, welcome back Kyle.

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David
Guest

Are you guys joking? It’s a free cell phone. You need to apply for it if you have a low income or other things. You’ll need a computer to apply along with medicaid or health forms. It’s meant for the cell phone to help people who can’t afford one. If you’re homeless and have a cell phone, then you really wouldn’t be homeless would you? Blame them. Not the program. Do something better with your lives. If you want to blame “stealing” go blame people on welfare too lazy to work for themselves.

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Britton
Member

My mail box sure has been quiet, whats up. Everyone finally come to terms with the inevitable?

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Britton
Member

I found that Idioacry movie and am watching it now, just paused it for a moment to come talk about it. Everyone should be required to watch that movie! Especially Kyle, he might find some common ground and all. LOL It’s scary but true at what the movie is trying to comically describe as the downfall of man kind. Someone here said, “Its already starting” and they are right.

Think about it, 50 years ago the United States public school system had higher scores and the U.S. didn’t rank 22 on the sustainable economies of the world list. Here it is 50+ years later and anyone can see that well basically everyone’s getting dumber. I blame poor parenting and technology (or lack of control in its usage rather).

Kids now would rather spend hours on end playing the newest “Blast em’ to Bits” video game rather than trying to learn something useful. When they reach teens’ that is replaced with “Duh, think I gonna go pregnate me some hole”. At adulthood they spend the rest of their lives with mundane jobs that they find unbearable so they quit and live off the government, because that takes no action or brain power on their part to accomplish. Just like the silly movie points out, the dumbest of the lot get to reproduce while people that know better, the smarter ones, hold off or sometimes never have any children at all. So yes there is a continuing degradation of the genetic make up of the human race.

As the technology improves and computers begin to automate even the most complex of task, the human mind and drive will diminish to the point where we will probably need a computer chip to remind us to breath. More than likely I will have died by then.

So to all you free loaders out there, eat it up! Lets destroy humanity together!

LMAO…back to the movie now.

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kaj
Member

Glad you found it, was a great flick.

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