Lou Dobbs has one night stand with Bill O’Reilly

by editor on November 15, 2009

lou-dobbs Lou Dobbs, the guy who became “controversial” on CNN by saying things most Americans agree with, is heading for Fox News.

Dobbs announced Wednesday that he is leaving CNN, which set off rumors that he’ll be joining Fox News or Fox Business. While that hasn’t happened yet, he will join O’Reilly on Monday night for an extended interview.

If you can’t see it live, set your Tivo to record Monday night’s O’Reilly show.

This should be good.

Source: HuffingtonPost.com

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culmt
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they tried to make lou out as a birther, i saw the show where he said he thought mr. obama was a citizen of this country, yes he made the joke on his radio show about dare i say undocumented.
but i guess liberals are the only ones who are allowed to make jokes. lou was looking out for working americans, their wages, trade policies. illegals, he was as hard on bush as obama, but it seems its ok to be critical of the right and not the left!!!!!!!

Jon
Guest

I agree 100%. Dobbs got a bad rap. They kept trying to spin his arguments about illegal aliens into him hating hispanics. Lou has never (to my recolection) taken issue with hispanic americans. His concern was illegal aliens driving down american wages and thereby de-stabilizing the american economy. It just so happens they were coming from Mexico. If they were pouring in from Canada and they were white, Dobbs would have been saying the same thing, and he would have been equally right.

culmt
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jon oreilly beats the liberal limbaugh by 3 to 1 nightly, yes the whole nbc networks are on edge. next time you speak to god, excuse me i mean olber(bearing) mann ask him what is his plan for world hunger.
liberal limbaugh never has to defend the subjects on his show. he only has guest who agree with his opinion. he is never ? about his views. even the democratic dike that follows him lets the otherside have a voice.
as for beck he is out there , but mr. obama was the one who said look who i surround myself with and beck did. now liberals dont like what he has found!!!!!

Jon
Guest

Again, you’re arguing something I never took issue with. Look at ratings for cable news programs, and yes O’reilly and the gang at Fox do better than their rivals at MSNBC. No one claimed otherwise. Greg said that no one watches Olberman. On a good night he has a million viewers. That’s more than no one. Does it top O’reilly? No and I never suggested that it did. So what are you arguing about?
I’m not sitting here making the same point over and over again about how Democrats control the House, Senate, and the White House. Especially when no one has claimed otherwise.
We all know Fox does better than MSNBC and we all know the Democrats control all three major componants of the Executive Branch of government. We can sit around and beat each other over the head again and again with the same information or argue issues.

arlan
Guest

Um, the house and senate are not parts of the executive branch.
Personally, I never like to see the office of the president and the congress controlled by the same party. The less those bodies accomplish, the better.

Jon
Guest

You’re right my mistake. The Democrats control both the Executive and Legislative Branches of government.

Greg
Member

I enjoy arguing with folks like you. Glenn Beck’s book provided some great insight.

It’s funny how you say Olberman has pretty good ratings. Try this link for actual ratings/viewers:

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/11/16/cable-news-ratings-for-friday-november-13-2009/33769#more-33769

O’Reilly whips your Olberman in every demographic. That’s where I get my facts. If you really spend the time looking at the numbers, you’ll also note that Glenn Beck has three times the viewers as Olberman despite being on at 5:00 while your buddy is on prime time.

I get most of my news from I Hate The Media.com

You’re probably right about Hannity so why do you listen? I cannot stand Olberman so I don’t watch him. In fact he so annoys me that I turn off football when he is on.

Jon
Guest

Greg, I never suggested that Olberman had higher ratings than O’reilly. He does have good ratings though. Yes, Fox has higher ratings, that’s no validation on their intellect. Both Fox and MSNBC get beat by RAW and Smackdown routinely, so what does it mean? Olberman has good ratings. He’s in no danger of cancellation. O’reilly has better ratings, his job is even safer. Pro Wrestling is doing better than both, so where are we going with this argument? You said “the only good thing about Olberman is that no one watches” On a good night he has a million viewers. That’s not chicken feed in the cable news business. I have defeated you once again. A million americans is more than no-one.

culmt
Member

lou showed what a class act he is he could have went on and run cnn down, but he didnt. it would be nice if the other news persons had his kind of class

Jon
Guest

I agree. I saw Dobbs on O’reilly and he’s a class act all the way. I don’t agree with Dobbs on some of the issues, but even when he’s arguing against something I am for, he does so in a reasoned and respectful way. I am a Keith Olberman fan and have never fealt that Dobbs deserved the ridicule Olberman gives him. Beck is a different story. Beck’s a nut job and deserves to be insulted. If for no other reason than he tries to insult america’s intelligence nightly with his goofy whacked-out conspiracy theories.

Greg
Member

I don’t usually argue with folks like you, but Beck is an nut job while Olberman isn’t? Wow.

Jon
Guest

Well I don’t usually allow folks like you to argue with me, but yeah, Beck’s a nut job. Olberman is hard to the left, just like Hannity is hard to the right. Unlike Beck, these people for all their partisan vitriol do not sit around and dream up all these whacked out conspiracies.

Greg
Member

It is interesting that you don’t allow folks to argue with you, yet you have been carrying this dialogue for quite some time with many folks who seem just like me.

I have never heard Beck, Hannity, or Limbaugh spew vitriol. Your buddy Olberman, however, is the poster boy. The only good thing about Olberman is that no one watches.

I will truly believe your word about not arguing if you don’t respond. That would show me!

Jon
Guest

First you have to show me that you usually don’t argue with people like me.
Second, Olberman has pretty good ratings, perhaps you should get your info from sources other than Fox.
And Hannity spews vitriol all the time. He’s done nothing but attack and antagonize the president since he won election. He couldn’t even wait until he took office and implemented policies that Hannity might not agree with.

culmt
Member

why is it ok for liberals tospew their hate, yet no one in the media calls them out on it.the liberal limbaugh olber(bearing)mann can spit it with the best, but you give him a pass.
only 20% of amer. claim to be liberal, that why it works out that fox beats mslsd 3 to 1 nighly.
if people want to hear liberals tell them how they should live, then air america would be on nation wide each day, but it lasted about as long as it takes me to P.
CONSERVATIVE radio is alive and well !!!!!!

arlan
Guest

Could you provide an example of his whacked out conspiracies. So far at least two people in the Obama administration have left because he pointed out who they are to the public. Maybe, just maybe, he’s on to something. Unless you feel we should have people in the White House who’s idol is Chairman Mao.

Jon
Guest

O.k., he said that Obama bailed out G.M. so that he could use On Star to spy on the American people. Is that good enough?
Also, stop acting like Van Jones was a member of Obama’s cabinet or something. He was a consultant at best. Do you realize that in any given president’s term that they will employ the services of thousands of people. If you have some guy with the resources of a media network constantly digging you’re going to dig something up on someone sooner or later.
You keep throwing up Van Jones, alright he said some incindiary things and wasn’t really that close to the president, and only left so that Harry would drop it and let the president get on with business. Let’s talk about Scooter Libbey. Much higher up than Van Jones and he committed criminal offenses for which he was convicted and pardoned. Beck’s not looking into that conspiracy but why? You got the Carl Rove, Dick Cheney, and Scooter Libbey. On top of that you got the “outing” of a U.S. Intelligence agent. That story has prime-time conspiracy written all over it, but let’s talk about some loud mouth Van Jones saying something that hurt Harry’s feelings.

arlan
Guest

The problem with Van Jones is he isn’t the only Marxist in the administration.
After all the media attention, investigative reporting and general character assassination, all they got Scooter Libbey for was lying to the court. Do you really think there was more to it when so much of the liberal media had made their life’s work to find something more?

Jon
Guest

Look,
Libbey and the gang outed an American intelligence agent because that’s what fascists do. When they can’t get their way they “scapegoat” others and use blackmale or whatever it takes.
Look at what they have been doing to Lindsey Graham. What has Graham done that is so different from any other conservative? Calling Beck on his bullsh*t is all I can recall. Immediately he was the “black sheep” and all the conservatives were talking bad about Graham. He’s gotten himself back in line and has learned his lesson about going against the Reich and is unlikely to do it again.
I have to say, you guys have a nasty little society going on over there on the right. No one is allowed to have an opposing point of view or are allowed to speak out on a fellow conservative.
You call Democrats or liberals “marxists” which further demonstrates the fascist culture you guys are growing. Fascists always have to have a percieved enemy. That keeps the people frightened and dependant on their leaders to keep them safe.
Let me ask you Arlan, not the conservative movement but you, what makes the Democrats Marxists? How is it a seemingly intelligent person like yourself, can subscribe to such ridiculous and hipocrytical phylosophies? On the one hand, Democrats are blamed for creating social programs which conservatives label “entitlement programs”, while at the same time big business gets more handouts than anyone in our society by far. Why do people like you not scream “entitlement” when big business gets their billions? If you look closely at the things the Democrats do it is a platform of empowering people to make and enjoy a better life. Give more people a chance at the American dream. On the Republican side it is a callous and cold program that supports business and the rights of business over the people.
This country employs capitalism, but was not founded for that reason. Our founding fathers created a society centered around individual rights and liberties. It’s “We the people” not “We the consortium”.

arlan
Guest

dictionary.com Facisim-a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism. Sounds like the goals of this administration and congress to me.
Marxism-the system of economic and political thought developed by Karl Marx, along with Friedrich Engels, esp. the doctrine that the state throughout history has been a device for the exploitation of the masses by a dominant class, that class struggle has been the main agency of historical change, and that the capitalist system, containing from the first the seeds of its own decay, will inevitably, after the period of the dictatorship of the proletariat, be superseded by a socialist order and a classless society. Hmmmm, also sounds like the current administration and congress. I guess the goal of totalitarianism has many names.
By the way, Republicans have no corner on the market, the politics of personal destruction are very prevalent in the Democratic party, too.
It amazes me that you only see issues from one side. Do you really think that Corporate welfare recipients are limited to friends of the Republican party? Maybe you should look real hard at General Electric.

HumbleGuru
Member

Jon, did Glenn Beck mention my name?

I thought I did a pretty good job of slapping down your stupid comment near the top of the replies…dang, I cant believe Beck didnt mention me as being part of the conspiracy to insult Obama’s minions whenever they decide to escape their state provided keepers and play on the computer.

Jon
Guest

O.K. Dougy, I understand you feel left out. You’re all up in here like “me next daddy, please oh please oh please! O.K. little Dougy here goes…

Yes, as a matter of fact Beck did mention you and I’m sorry to say he’s still against gay marriage so you’ll just have to be patient. Sometimes cowards like Beck are reluctant to admit they’re gay, but give it time, he’ll come out of the closet some day. As soon as he does I’ll definately put in a word for you.

JPT
Member

Flame War! 😆

Jon
Guest

Hey everyone here’s the latest Glenn Beck conspiracy. It seems that ECM and IMO have been trying to fool the american people! Here we thought they were die-hard conservatives but no! Put their initials together and you have “COMMIE” That’s right! it’s a conspiracy I tell you. I also have reason (no proof) that they are secretly funded by an organization called EMMI.CO. Join with me fellow patriots, we must stamp out these MICEmo (hey you create five conspiracies a week it doesn’t always fit). If only I had a chalk board so that I could circle all of this to emphasize my point.

IMO
Member

As Lou Dobbs’ journey moves toward FoxNews, rumors circulate that Shepard Smith breaks out his disposable undergarments. Sadly it’s reported he had an Ole Miss. ewww 😮 Downwind Plz!

culmt
Member

lou has the guts to speak out on things hurting american workers. illegals. free trade, outsourcing, and many other things. cnn will regret gagging him. the liberal limbaugh@ msnbc is always crying about healthcare, yet he never talks about those losing it because their job was outsourced.

Roger
Guest

hey jon ill take substance over fat jokes anyday oh by the way you might want to look up substance and not the kind you smoke in your basement

Jon
Guest

And what substance do you get out of Fox news? Yeah let’s all tune in every night so that people can tell us of the gloom and doom. Have you noticed it’s all fear based politics over there? “They’re destroying our country”, “The government wants to control everything”, and my personal favorite from Glenn Beck (a.k.a. Harry Hill) “Obama bailed out G.M. so that he could use On Star to spy on people”.
You gotta have some twisted views to consider that garbage substance.

ECM
Guest

See, here’s the problem: since you don’t actually watch Fox News how would you actually know this?

I mean, have you ever actually watched O’Reilly? That guy has been so even-handed w/ Obama (up until very recently) that he was impossible to watch. And Shep Smith and Greta are hardly even remotely like you are attempting to characterize so, basically, your entire argument boils down to “Glenn Beck is a doody head because that’s what the eminently level-headed Keith Olbermann told me.”

Jon
Guest

As a matter of fact I watch Fox news all the time. I go back and forth between Fox and MSNBC.
You’re right, O’reilly can sometimes be surprisingly fair on the issues. In fact I agree with both O’reilly and Dobbs on some issues. I do beleive that illegal aliens are further destabilizing our economy, and I agree with O’reilly that racial profiling is sometimes a necessary evil in order to do police work.
Unlike most of the Fox viewers, I can agree with Chris Mathews, keith Olberman, and Rachel Maddow on most of the issues but not march in locked-step with everything they say. I make my own opinions and do my own research. I watch Fox and get the right wing spin in the process. I do what every american who engages in political debate should do, know the issues, get your info from multiple sources and make up your own mind.
When Betsy McCaughey “twitters” a blurb about death panels a whole bunch of conservatives (some elected) take it and run with it. When Beck says “Obama bailed out G.M. so that he could spy on americans with On Star” A bunch of nuts took that as truth. These people are not responsible citizens.
Case in point. After 9/11 there were these extreme left wingers who made assertions that the attacks were a Bush conspiracy. As much as I dislike Bush, and hated almost every one of his policies I did not agree with what those people were saying. If you’re going to accuse my president of murdering thousands of my fellow citizens, you’ve got to have hard and convincing evidence. Otherwise I give the president the benefit of the doubt. But these right wingers just want someone to tell them what they want to hear. Well guess what kiddies? there’s no Santa Clause. You have to grow up at some point and accept reality. And it’s not always going to be what you would wish.

ECM
Guest

So your argument, then, is that Fox sucks because they’re effective? Wow, yeah, they should definitely stop doing that sort of stuff or they might cease to be relevant!

Jon
Guest

My argument is that Fox makes up or pushes stories it knows to be false. Also, they stage conservative events, advertise the coming of those events, cover those events, pass them off as grass roots movements and then blame the other networks for not covering the event. They’re a propaganda macine. In that respect they are effective, but then a willing and ingnorant audience is always a pre-requisite for any successful propaganda campaign and they have no shortage of hapless dupes like you lining up to eat the pablum. But an effective news organization? I have to agree with President Obama on this one, they are not a news organization.

arlan
Guest

Can you provide other examples other than the news footage from the 9/12 rally (that never happened according to the main stream media) being placed in another story? I’m not talking about Glenn Beck, (we all know how much you love and admire him). I always figure if something happens once, it was a mistake. When it happens repeatedly is when you have to question the source.

Jon
Guest

arlan,
Have to respond up here becuase reply slots filled on that string.
First, you say:
“the 9/12 rally (that never happened according to the main stream media)”
As I recall MSNBC did cover that story. In fact they covered it the day of the event and weeks leading up to it. First they talked about how Harry was staging an event, then they talked about how Harry was passing it of as a grass roots movement, and then they talked about how the event was held, they played the clip of Neil Cavuto (who thought the mic was off) artificially inflating the estimated number of participants from 5,000 to two or three times that much on the day of the rally.
True, MSNBC didn’t spend hours and hours a day covering a Fox political stunt but then why would they? Covering it unduly would only serve Fox’s purpose which was to fool people into beleiving that many more americans cared about this thing than truly did. Remember Harry pushed this thing for months and got about 5,000 people (which is probably why he didn’t show up, that’s pretty embarrassing especially when you consider his much touted ratings).
Other, than Cavuto lying about the sad and small 9/12 numbers, and then Hannity’s people purposely using that small crowd to bolster the Bachman rally numbers (which must have been truly abysmal if they needed footage of 5,000 to make it look big) No, I can’t think of anything off hand, but I’m sure if I looked it up Wykepedia or someone would have an entire page on Fox falsehoods.

arlan
Guest

obviously you didn’t look at the crowd pictures to think there was only 5000 there. It sounds like rather than covering the rally, they covered in their own very special way, Fox’s coverage of it.
Maybe before you claim large numbers of untruths and other misdeads you should have your ducks in a row.

Jon
Guest

First, I’m not sure what point you’re making here.
But let me say this. Go look up the Cavuto clip online and see for yourself. He himself had no real count, if he had estimated 15 thousand and said that, then fine. He may have been way off but you couldn’t accuse him of lying. But he himself estimates the crowd at 5 thousand. Then turns around minutes later and says two or three times the amount he beleived in his own mind to be in attendance. It’s a lie. Stop spinning it man it’s an outright lie.
Same as the Hannity footage. I’m not saying Hannity is responsible, or that he was even aware of it, but someone who works for his show edited the footage to mis-represent the number of people in attendance.

And yes, MSNBC covered Fox’s move to create a phony grass roots movement. MSNBC decided that the story wasn’t the 9/12 movement but rather Fox news’ manufacturing of that movement. Editorial discretion, instead of biting on the phony grass roots angle, they went after the real propaganda move that Fox was trying to put down.

Arlan
Guest

So what you’re saying is that the people that showed up for that rally are nothing but paid schills for the Republican party and Fox news. Do you say the same thing when the Democrats hold a rally?

Jon
Guest

Where did you get that? I never suggested the people were paid. I said there wasn’t that many of them considering how hard Harry was hitting the pulpit leading up to the thing. And I said that Fox news manufactured the event. If a bunch of people get together to protest, spontaneously or by their own accord that’s a grass roots rally. If a cable news network invents the movement, and advertises the rally for a month and convinces people to attend it’s not grass roots. It’s media sponsored and it’s phony. That doesn’t mean the attendees were paid and I never suggested they were.
The Bachman rally was even smaller, although I will say hers was a last minute thing, and didn’t have all the lead in the 9/12 rally had.
Look, if you’ve found or want to present some evidence that Dems or MSNBC to be more specific (because we’re talking about dishonesty in journalism not politicians) paid people to go to rallys then just put it up. You don’t have to pretend that I made some argument that I didn’t.

Arlan
Guest

Since you indicated that the 9/12 movement isn’t grass roots I had to wonder how anyone would possibly show up to something like that without being paid. I’ll have to ask ACORN how they do it.
I guess you would agree then that the Million Man March was a propaganda induced rally too since that was over a year in the making.

Jon
Guest

Maybe the mis-understanding here is in what you consider to be a “grass roots” movement.
If people organize, and by organize I mean they can create websites, purchase air time for commercials, do whatever it takes. But if they do it of their own accord, because they beleive in their heart that it is the right thing to do, that is a grass roots movement. And Fox as well as MSNBC should cover it and tell American viewers what’s going on.
If you have a company, or even an organization like ACORN that organizes, and gathers people together for political purposes that is not a grass roots movement. That is a political action organization.
If you have a media source, that creates a movement, talks about and convinces people to show up at that movements rally then that is not grass roots. It’s not propaganda yet though……wait for it……Now that media source passes that political movement (which it created and propagated) off as a grass roots movement. It has officially become propaganda. They are acting as if this movement was created by some outside entity and that they themselves are a neutral news source merely covering the event they are deceiving people and engaging in propaganda.
MSNBC picked up on this and did some good reporting on Fox’s hoax.

ECM
Guest

Actually, Fox should boot Shep Smith and put Dobbs in his job. (And keep Williams: he’s not a knee-jerk liberal and wouldn’t fit in at the MSNBC sanitarium.)

Jon
Guest

Unfortunately, even the clowns at Fox don’t need your input.

ECM
Guest

That’s probably correct: they seem to be doing just fine w/o my input, but there’s always room for improvement. I mean, look at you: you’re a walking talking billboard on the dire need for self-improvement.

Jon
Guest

What? are you even listening to yourself or do you drift in and out? You should consult Limbaugh the next time you mix pain killers with anti-depressants.

And if you mean Fox is good at messing things up without your help you’re right. Pretty funny how John Stewart busted Fox for adding Beck’s 9-12 rally footage to Bachman’s little gig a week ago to give the false impression that more people gave a fu*ck. First, Comedy Central is apperantly more capable of conveying the news than Fox is. Second, this was an intentional lie. It would be one thing if they accidentally played the wrong footage, but this was edited and cut purposely to mis-represent the truth. And this is the network you admire. They lie to you and you think that’s fine. Says a lot about you. All jokes aside, dude that seriously says something about them and you.

Greg
Member

We’ll report, you decide.

Jon
Guest

Apperantly the article above was reported by the Huffington Post. But somehow you still magically decided in spite of getting your news from a liberal source.

ECM
Guest

Err, what? Is that English? Perhaps you should remove your sunglasses before typing, Jon.

Jon
Guest

Yes it is english, but you must have at least a third grade mastery of it to understand my posts. Her’es something for you though:

See Spot. See Spot running. See Spot running on the sea shore.

Start with that and let me know how it goes.

ECM
Guest

Zing! You must have dug deep into your deluxe-sized bag of witty retorts to fish out that stunning rejoinder–I am truly humbled in response. (No, not really.)

Oh, and btw: have you thought about taking off that hood and letting some air reach your head? I think it’s starting to have a profoundly negative impact on your IQ.

Oh, and hey: let me post your response so you don’t have to hurt yourself trying to come up with a fitting retort:

Jon November 16, 2009, 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm
Well, uh, you’re a stupid head and stuff!

Therse, see? Now you don’t have to dig deep to come back w/ an insult worthy of Keith Olbermann.

Jon
Guest

Thanks for supplying my ripost, you are a stupid head and stuff.
By the way I want everyone to know that I have no problem with a one night stand between Lou Dobbs and Bill O’reilly, as long as they don’t try to get married they can have all the one night stands they want.

ECM
Guest

Hey, Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius:

It’s ‘riposte’ not ‘ripost.’

(Yeah, correcting someone’s spelling on the ‘Net is pretty lame, but you’ve manage to drag me down to your level, so enjoy looking like an idiot after trying to malign someone else’s intelligence.)

IMO
Member

ECM.. don’t you think BHO will be enamored w/ the “Jon Constituency”? You have to admit it’s such thoughtfully focused sunshine, he has to be enjoying Jon’s support.

ECM
Guest

He’s been supping on the rainbows that shoot of BHO’s bum so, yeah, you’re probably right.

Jon
Guest

Yeah ECM, IMO needs a pat on the back. He’s frightened again.

HumbleGuru
Member

The circle is almost complete, now all thats left is for Fox news to give up Alan Colmes to CNN and send Juan Williams to MSNBC and its done. We’ve drawn sides, everyone pick a team and lets…..GET IT ON!

Jon
Guest

So you’re rooting for fat and stupid? Those guys never win! that’s why they get picked last.

HumbleGuru
Member

Jon, you know youre not supposed to be playing on the computer. Go back to your pen before your handlers discover you got out and send you to shock treatment again.

IMO
Member

Doug, that’s a classic! .. We all seem to be enjoying Jon’s sweet talk. Perhaps I’m enjoying it to much… so I’ll refrain and give others a chance. Enjoy all!

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