Scam I am: ReachOut competes with Safelink in the government cell phone for the poor scam

by editor on March 6, 2011

Safelink Wireless has competition. Now we can add the ReachOut wireless to the list of companies that take your dollars and magically convert them into free cell phones for the poor.

We know the routine. We do an article on this subject and apologists immediately bombard us with comments saying, “This isn’t a government program.” Nonsense. ReachOut admits as much on its blog.

Did I mention that you can get a free cell phone? Believe it or not, if you are considered “low income”, you can. Low income families have it hard. Working hard, paying off bills, and taking care of everyone’s needs is a difficult task. Thankfully, the list of government-assisted products and services now includes a free cell phone.

reachout wireless free government cell phone

Free phone! Free minutes! Every month! You pay, they get it free!

Here’s how the ReachOut Wireless website describes the program:

REACHOUT WIRELESS™ service is U.S. government supported program for Income eligible households provided by Nexus Communications, Inc. In order to participate in the REACHOUT WIRELESS™ service, persons must meet certain eligibility requirements set by each State where the service is to be provided. These requirements are based on a person’s participation in a state or Federal support programs or by meeting the Income Poverty Guidelines as defined by the U.S. Government. REACHOUT WIRELESS™ service is limited to one person per household.

It’s nice to see that competition has been introduced into this program. Now Safelink and ReachOut will slug it out to see which company can give away more of your hard-earned dollars.

Capitalism at its finest.

Source: ReachOutMobile.com

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madrid
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madrid
June 25, 2012 9:55 am

I started with $5.00 for 350 minutes now im paying $20.00 for the same minutes. I dont know if they rise the fees. I just been on it for 4 months. It sucks

sue
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sue
June 25, 2012 8:18 am

This service is a scam, plain and simple. I applied for it and ordered a phone on top of it. They didn’t send the phone, but gladly took my money. I have tried contacting them several times through email and their “live operators” [which never reply] and even calling them, getting someone who couldn’t speak english. They have bluntly refused to respond and I am out the money I spent on the phone. Service is purely a con to take advantage of low income people. If you use it, don’t buy a phone and don’t count on the ‘free phone’ they send you to be worth using.

jcrowley1985
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jcrowley1985
June 13, 2012 12:02 pm

Here we go again. 4000 posts here we come.

dena
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June 6, 2012 2:41 pm

I am one of the suckers with reachout wireless. I have a phone and have tried for 3 days to get ahold of someone. I can’t. It’s like impossible. They do not talk to you, but very quickly to get your money at any time of the day or night. There are 2 draw backs: one, you have know sims card. Two, you have no internet access at all. So know matter how good it is or looks, these two never are included. My phone broke, and I lost all my data. They could not retrieve it, and I have tried for 3 days to call them. I am on always on hold, or on a recording. These people do not play professional. I will do anything to expose them. If you want more informantion, you have my email. Thanks.

jack e kruger
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June 27, 2012 2:12 pm

i never ever had a problem with my reach out cell phone when i go too there web site i always get in touch with some one will respond too me so whats the problem yes the phones are used but mine works just wonderful sto[p bitching get on with your life

flashingscotsman
Member
April 25, 2013 11:40 am

Dena, the service sucks because it’s government contracted welfare. You’re getting it for free. I’m paying for yours, AND mine. If you want good service, go buy a phone from a real company.

Chuck
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June 13, 2012 11:56 am

Hey moron. It’s obvious you never got past the third grade.

I sympathize with your plight about lousy customer service but for God’s sake, learn how to spell and use proper English. You look like a complete idiot.

Gail Stewart
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Gail Stewart
April 14, 2012 10:25 pm

We’re talking about lifeline service here. My 90 year old mother, who lives on an income of $1200/month gets a discount on her monthly phone service. She needs to reapply every year with proof of low income. She – and anyone else who qualifies – could do it on either a cell or a regular phone – not both. The same is true of Link-up, a one-time $30 discount on either a regular phone or a cell phone (not both) for low-income people. I’m willing to share with elders, disabled people and those who can’t jobs. Glad I have one.

Lauen
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June 24, 2012 6:27 pm

I wouldn’t want my 90 year old mom to depend on reachoutwireless for an emergency. They send out refurbished phones about to go out so you will purchase another phone. They make it difficult to purchase minutes by only accepting a money gram. It’s a service to take advantage of the disabled and elderly. The company profits by receiving grants from the Federal Govenment and using it to make a profit to sell their own stuff. It’s so sad that people believe they are getting help when they are paying more than someone with a regular monthly plan and have less coverage. I’m so sorry you chose reachout wireless because the safe link is a good thing and I think Obama’s plan was to benefit people. You just can’t monitor every single company participating until it’s too late.

flashingscotsman
Member
June 25, 2012 10:21 am

Yes, if they’re giving out millions of OUR money, they CAN monitor each company to see that they are doing what they are supposed to be doing, and not giving away anything to anyone who shouldn’t get it.

flashingscotsman
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June 7, 2012 10:51 am

Those who can’t jobs?

fred1968
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fred1968
April 25, 2013 11:28 am

Flashingscotsman – I like the name by the way – I sense a bit of sarcasm in your post, but please forgive me if I’m mistaken. However, as someone who deals with the social issues of people on a daily basis, I can tell you that the scarcity of jobs is real in this present time, and not everyone is as creative as you and I are.:) With that said, go easy on the stereotyping.

flashingscotsman
Member
April 25, 2013 11:36 am

Fred, I have full knowledge of the scarcity of jobs. Trust me on that one. And yes, there is a LOT of sarcasm in my posts. It’s how I make fun of people.

And, if you’ll read the entire thread, (I know, it could take days), you’ll see that none of the regulars here are against helping people who need help. We’re against helping those able bodied people who have decided to ride on the wagon instead of helping to pull it. And a cellphone is NOT a right.

Kathleen Wright
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Kathleen Wright
March 19, 2012 10:59 pm

Did you folks read the terms and agreements? First strange thing I noticed is that my free phone is probably going to cost me $74.00…hhhhmmmmm. Then a little further on it says that they shall always be held harmless, but they can come after you. One of the instances given was if you lost or destroyed a headset, they state in the terms and conditions that they can come after you for $5,000. So much for a “free phone”. I was less than 1/8 through…I decided to quit wasting my time.

flashingscotsman
Member
March 20, 2012 10:35 am

Oh, did they saddle you with terms you don’t like, while handing you something they stole from me? I feel so sorry for you.

So a person is on welfare, getting food stamps, subsidized housing, and a free cell phone, and they’re going to “go after you” for $5,000? Right. Like you’re going to pay it when they hand you the bill.

flashingscotsman
Member
June 7, 2012 10:51 am

Oooooh, now the big bad meanies on the left are going to thumb me down. The truth hurts, doesn’t it?

Ben
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Ben
November 7, 2011 5:47 am

You people make me sick. And to the idiot with the history lesson. Were u a slave? Do u have a time-machine? Maybe you would rather still be over in that barren desert they call Africa. I cant stand how every White person is a biggett from birth. You can shovel your Crap somewhere else. Its you that is perpetuating the Hate. All the freedoms Everyone of us Americans have should be taken as a blessing. Or would u rather be getting punked out over some Blood Diamonds…INGRATE

tom
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June 28, 2012 9:37 am

It is funny how blacks think that whites are biggots from birth. Blacks are the most racist ethnic group in America. They have things that would be considered racist if whites had them. Like the united negro college fund…can you imaging the fallout of the united caucasin college fund. FYI….if your black in America…you were never a slave and neither has anyone that you personally know been one….so get over it and get a job…..oh and lay down the crack pipe.

KimmyQueen
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KimmyQueen
June 28, 2012 12:22 pm

Your entire post can be considered racist due to its generalizations. I agree that having associations that are about a particular race are not to be tolerated but your assumption that all blacks are like this is utterly disgusting and essentially you are doing what you are accusing others of doing.

flashingscotsman
Member
June 28, 2012 11:43 am

Thank goodness I know black people that aren’t like that.

Tiffany
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Tiffany
October 31, 2011 6:11 pm

LOL…How do I get one? I’m sick of paying $100+ for a phone bill. Cherise the struggling Actress checking in from WEST HOLLYWOOD…I’m out. : )

flashingscotsman
Member
March 20, 2012 10:41 am

If you’re still struggling, it’s probably because you haven’t had your nude pics taken yet. Email me.

Ha!

WILDHDGIRL
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WILDHDGIRL
September 14, 2011 2:36 pm

TOO FUNNY ON SOME OF THESE COMMENTS. I’VE BEEN WORKING SINCE I WAS 14, I’M NOW 50 AND NOT HOLDING MY BREATH TO SEE IF IM APPROVED FOR DISABILITY. YOUR DAMN SKIPPY IM GONNA TAKE A FREE CELL PHONE AFTER PAYING TAXES ALL THESE YEARS. ANYONE WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH THAT CAN STFU…LMAO

Kyle
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Kyle
September 18, 2011 3:36 pm

You should try to get a free phone. They are very handy. I use mine to schedule my mental health appointments. I am happy to say that I am better able to function in society because of these appointments. Not completely better, but I won’t be leeching off the government forever. This would not be possible without this phone.

Just a note, you probably should have taken the time to notice that most people are complaining that people who are making 50k a year or have the money to pay for their own internet connection, car, home and so forth- are still getting this phone. It’s not OK instantly complain about something you have not even read completely.

RockingHorseGuy
Member
September 14, 2011 6:08 pm

If you had come here to have a discussion with us, we would have been glad to do so, and also you would have noticed that you’re not who we’re complaining about. But since you came here to holler about things you know nothing about, shut the hell up.

MsKnowmostofitall
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MsKnowmostofitall
September 13, 2011 10:00 am

Funny how you guys are worried about cellphones and handouts to the poor but no one seems to be upset about the “handouts” our government gave to these car companies that sent all of the jobs to Mexico.

Where is the outrage in that? Where is the outrage about even the poor undeserving as you claim who pay taxes to support a war that I don’t give a rats nest ass about. I am worried about the homeless people with nothing to lose at the gas station, not someone from a sand dune a million miles away. I live in a pretty nice community and my bike was stolen by one of these good “vanilla’ people you guys seem to praise. It was not stolen by some illegal who jumped a fence to get here.

Alert, alert lazy people come in all colors and guess what I live in California and I see all kinds of white people use food stamps, then they leave the organic grocery store and load all their free food in their Volvo. People who can’t afford food don’t drive Volvo’s or a BMW.

Until the government that you guys love so well come up with some jobs people will be on welfare, food stamps, Wic and anything else free they handing out. Guess what you need a phone if someone is supposed to call you about these imaginary jobs that don’t exist.

I worked for GM for 18 years and got laid off. I already had my BA and finished my Masters and guess what I still could not find a job. I did not sit around watching Jerry Springer waiting on da welfare so I could get me some Newports and a 6 pack of Corona. I am now currently working a job for the state making a whopping $14.77/hr that after paying rent,lights, and insurance leaves very little left over.

I guess I could go back to school and get my doctorate so I can get a job at Wal-Mart being head cashier, get real. That won’t even cover my school books.

Unlike the car industry and the housing market I actually am paying back my loans. Good Old Uncle Sam did not tie his american flag cape around his neck and save my ass.

So for all the people with nothing left to do but try and tear down less fortunate people I really would like to see what you do if Jose takes your job because he does not need vacation pay, 401k, Aetna, paid sick leave, and a pension. I know you will find another job right away because you have some kind of magic job sniffing power unlike the rest of us lazy asses.

Then I wonder if you will say well I worked since I was 16, and I paid taxes.

KimmyQueen
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September 13, 2011 2:27 pm

You must be new… and lazy. If you taken the time you would have seen all of that has been covered already. Your rant was for nothing and it only served to make you look petty and stupid. If that was your goal though… good job.

FormerlyDeanH
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FormerlyDeanH
September 13, 2011 12:36 pm

Ms. knownothing, look around the site before saying such moronic drivel. Find some of these things you suggest this site loves, like car companies that the government now owns since using tax dollars to overtake them. You won’t find it.

Nonyabiz
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Nonyabiz
September 9, 2011 6:12 am

YOU PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS! WHAT THE HELL DOES ANY OF THIS RACIST SHIT HAVE TO DO WITH A GOVERNMENT CELL PHONE. PEOPLE OF ALL ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS RECEIVE GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE, I.E., FOOD STAMPS, WELFARE, MEDICAID, CELL PHONE, ETC. YOU SOUND PRETTY DAMN STUPID WHEN YOU MAKE COMMENTS THAT ITS ONLY BLACKS RECEIVING ASSISTANCE WHEN THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THERE ARE JUST AS MANY WHITES RECEIVING GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE THAN THERE ARE BLACKS RECEIVING IT. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE AND STOP FOOLING YOURSELF. IT HAS GOT TO BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO SLEEP AT NIGHT KNOWING THAT YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM ANY OTHER ETHNICITY, AND THE FACT THAT WE NOW HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT HAS TO MAKE YOUR SKIN CRAWL.

flashingscotsman
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June 7, 2012 12:38 pm

How good of you to play the race card. None of the regular posters here ever said anything about it. Seems that you might just be a racist.

Ms.Ella2U
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Ms.Ella2U
September 7, 2011 8:16 am

@ thatguy I thought the same thing but yet there are people complaining about it. I thought that it was a bit odd that the government would give away free cell phone and minutes to the less fortunate as well so I went on the sire and seen that it’s also free minutes and they only have to pay 2.50 a month. I don’t really know what is the importance in doing this but I guess they have their reasons. But, on my personal feelings I think that the person that took the time to right this article and the ones that agree with him should stop complaining become an elected official and do something about the changes that you do not like… It’s obvious that sitting here blogging about it is not the answer.

Thatguyo.0
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Thatguyo.0
August 18, 2011 6:15 pm

What kind of site is this, i came here to read about something being a scam, not a place that take political views that’s been dated further back than the 1800’s. not to mention, half of those who posted a comment seem to be treating this whole topic as some kind of high school debate competition. The way i see it, this whole program was created due to low employment rate because our economy is screwed up, if there were more jobs available maybe taxes wouldn’t be high, then again maybe it might. All i know is that I’m a hardworking man out of the U.S.M.C. I have been in a big city for over a year putting in applications anywhere a place is or even is not hiring, yet i still have to rely on Temp Agency’s just to get money. Way i see it, things happen and everyone has there responsibility’s. Just remember to think of how we spend our lives and the things we have done, it can either be rewarding, or in the long run bite us back on the ass when we look back. Conclusion, we put ourselves in this situation because of mostly carelessness and greed. Question is, What are we going to do to better the future for us and the future Generation.

KATHERINE
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August 18, 2011 1:23 pm

OK I HAVE A BROTHER WHO IS ALLMOST 50YRS OLD ABLE BODIED REFUSES TO FLIP BURGERS AND LIVES AT HOME WITH MAMA BUT GETS ALLMOST 300.00 IN FOOD STAMPS WHILE MY KIDS AND I ARE STARVEING ! IS THAT FAIR REFUSEING TO TAKE JOBS ALONG THE WAY ! CAUSE THEY DIDINT PAY 20.00 AN HOUR TO ME THATS A FREELOADER LETS MOOCH OFF MAMA AND UNCLE SAME ! THREE YEARS AND BEFOR THAT 6 YRS WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND ! THATS WHAT WE SHOULD BE BITCHING ABOUT FOLKS !

whiskeyriver
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whiskeyriver
August 19, 2011 8:41 am

Why are your kids starving? You too lazy to go to the welfare office and apply for foodstamps? Judging by your spelling I would say you don’t have much education ergo not much of a job either.

What is with the all capitols thing? Don’t you know it is annoying and hard to read? Who cares what your brother is or is not doing? He is mooching off of mom and Uncle Same? You have an uncle named Same? That is a family problem YOU need to take care of, nobody else can do it for you, so why should WE be bitching about your personal problems?

If your brother has a “free” cellphone, paid for by us taxpayers, come back here and tell us all about it. We can then bitch about something that has to do with this story.

KimmyQueen
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August 18, 2011 6:16 pm

KATHERINE!!!!

CAN YOU READ THIS KATHERINE?!? IS THIS BIG ENOUGH FOR YOU?!?! AWWWWWW! Were you annoyed by that Katherine? Good, now I hope you understand why caps are annoying.

REBECCA FOX
Guest
August 6, 2011 10:10 am

cum on all you ignorant raciest hillbillys,you seem to be the most ignorant of them all, I”m as white as they come ans I”ve busted my ass workin construction as a laborer for many many years and waitressing when there wasnt any work,but now due to a medical condition I cant work and take care of my 16 yr old like i used to so im so grateful for our system that helps the less fortuate out ..and FYI down at my welfare office in Chicago a big city theres always just as many white faces in there as there is african americans and not many hispanics at all, so Im not sure were you idiots are getting your facts from,Cuz Im getting my from REAL LIFE EXPERIANCE, not sum non-factual blogs from a buncha country hillbillys….peace out idiots..

Olivia
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Olivia
July 31, 2011 6:48 am

Except that the government doesn’t increase revenue without placing a hardship on everyone.
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Not true. It places a hardship on SOME taxpayers. For others, it’s merely an inconvenience.

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49
August 1, 2011 6:06 am

Really? Are you the accountant for the entire country? How would you know what affects someone and how, if you don’t personally know their situation?

jwilson07
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jwilson07
July 29, 2011 8:55 pm

Social security is NOT WELFARE. How dare you compare a person who worked 50 years, his retirement he paid into the whole time, to a lazy shiftless worthless 3rd generation welfare queen. Stop that complete B@llsh*t argument right now. We owe people a decent retirement who worked and slaved to make this country successful and prosperous. We do NOT owe ANYTHING to welfare and food stamp losers.

Olivia
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Olivia
July 30, 2011 4:56 am

Social security is NOT WELFARE. How dare you compare a person who worked 50 years, his retirement he paid into the whole time, to a lazy shiftless worthless 3rd generation welfare queen.
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1) Not everyone on social security has worked 50 years; and many people go through everything they’ve paid into social security within a short time.

2) Not everyone who receives TANF or EBT is lazy, shiftless or worthless.

3) Seeing everything in terms of tired old stereotypes is a sign of a lazy mind.

PsychoDad
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PsychoDad
July 30, 2011 5:07 am

Go eat a bowl of dicks, you useless twat.

Olivia
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Olivia
July 31, 2011 5:54 am

Go eat a bowl of d*cks, you useless tw*t.
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Classic mindless (and sexist) reaction from one who has nothing but trashy vulgarisms to contribute to the discussion.

(And then he wonders why women won’t just shut up and let miscreants like him make their reproductive decisions for them……..)

Reggie
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Reggie
July 29, 2011 11:18 pm

Again, any comment can be considered derogatory if the intent is not understood. Alice made a comment that African Americans are all after welfare or don’t want to earn their own. It was my intent to show that first, they are all not on welfare and taking handouts, because 230 million out of the 245 million are not receiving welfare according to the census bureau and the US dept of health and human service. Secondly, when I say social security, it is intended to encompasses more than just retirement insurance and healthcare for the dedicated worker. It cover retirees, the disabled, regardless of age, survivors benefits, which includes spouse, children and stepchildren, SSI, which is absolutely welfare, medicare and medicaid and a portion of the state children’s health insurance program. Lastly, Social Security is not a savings or retirement plan, it is a safety net (financial aid) designed to help with basic needs when one can no longer work. And regardless of how much a person pays into the system they are still entitled to this peace of mind because as a society we don’t want to see someone work there fingers to the bone for 50 years, raising kids, paying for college and bills to be destitute after you can no longer work. I see nothing wrong with that choice, but it is the biggest part of our budget. (side note: Social Security & Medicare over 35% of budget, Dept of defense over 17%, unemployment over 9%, Interest on debt over 9%, welfare and social programs just over 3%) Welfare is a problem but its not the problem.

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49
July 30, 2011 4:46 am

Alice made a comment that African Americans are all after welfare or don’t want to earn their own. It was my intent to show that first, they are all not on welfare and taking handouts, because 230 million out of the 245 million are not receiving welfare according to the census bureau and the US dept of health and human service.
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Where did these numbers come from? Since there are 308,745,538 people in the US, there in no one group that comprised 245 million people.
Whites come closest at just over 223.5 million. Blacks come in at just over 38.9 million, therefore, the 15 million that your numbers imply might be the total welfare population in the US, but not even close to the black population on welfare.
According to the 2010 census data http://2010.census.gov/2010census/data/
the percentages of population by race break down as follows:
National population 308,745,538
White 72.4%
Black or African American 12.6%
American Indian and Alaskan Native 0.9%
Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander 0.2%
Some other race 6.2%
Two or more races 2.9%
Hispanic or Latino 16.3%

I was unable to find any clear stats from a government source, that could show the population that is collecting welfare, either by raw numbers or by race. There are plenty of websites that claim to have these numbers, but they all seem to have an agenda or don’t have the stats I’m looking for. The census website is nearly impossible to navigate through and the government doublespeak is horrendous!

Reggie
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Reggie
July 30, 2011 5:57 am

poppajoe49,

Thank you for pointing this information out, I am man enough to admit when I am wrong and in this case I am. I just still find it hard to believe that 38.9 million Americans or 12.6% of the population is the cause of our economic mess. This is the greatest country on the face of the earth and it took all of, regardless of how dark or bright our histories are, to make it that way, we all contributed to the greatness of the country one way or another. I think the more we fight each other the easier it is for politicians to rob us blind and I would be willing to put money on the fact that the 4 trillion dollars worth of debt we are in is not sitting in the bank accounts of the poor, middle class families or small business owners.

poppajoe49
Member
poppajoe49
July 30, 2011 6:04 am

Reggie, it’s not the black population that is the cause of this mess. Welfare alone isn’t the cause of this mess. There are more white people on welfare than all others combined.
What is the cause is the sum total of the social programs, pork projects, bloated government, “welfare” to foreign countries (foreign aid), and the unwillingness of the powers that be to cut any of it.
When your income decreases, whether it be from less overtime, getting laid off, or whatever, do you spend more, or do you cut expenses? Washington spends more money when it gets less in tax revenue. If our government were to realize that throwing money at a problem isn’t the answer, we’ll all be better off.

Reggie
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Reggie
July 30, 2011 7:14 am

Bravo! Those are the real issues. Seems like Washington lacks common sense on all sides. I know you can’t completely compare government to a household but the principles are the same. If I have monthly payments due for $1000 but only have $500 income, I can’t afford to give my brother-in-law $100 (although I might give him $10 to get a bus pass to get to work so they don’t all move in with me, lol), I need to find another job or two and I need to get rid of excess. I don’t know, maybe I need to go take a fancy economics class but until then, this makes perfect sense to me..

Olivia
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Olivia
July 31, 2011 5:57 am

If I have monthly payments due for $1000 but only have $500 income, I can’t afford to give my brother-in-law $100 (although I might give him $10 to get a bus pass to get to work so they don’t all move in with me, lol), I need to find another job or two and I need to get rid of excess.
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Exactly. Not only do you look for ways to cut expenses, but you also look for ways to INCREASE revenue—-preferably, ways that won’t place a greater hardship on one member of the family than another.

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49
July 31, 2011 6:21 am

Except that the government doesn’t cut expenses, and it doesn’t increase revenue without placing a hardship on everyone.

alice
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alice
July 29, 2011 5:38 pm

OMG! i am amazed as to how ignorant many people still are!

and when for God’s sake when are african americans going to start earning a life own their own?
until when are they going to keep using the whle slave thing to live for free! or careless living off the government? besides i dont think there are any past slaves still living? or there is?

come on people! you’re free………. have been for a long time now get to living, but earn it! Gosh!

Reggie
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Reggie
July 29, 2011 7:28 pm

Alice,

Not sure if you mean to imply that all African Americans are looking for a handout. Out of the 30 million welfare recipients the number of African American and White are about equal, with white being the slight majority. In addition whites make up almost 90% of the expenditures for the social security and medicare entitlement programs. There are some really lazy people in all race classes that just refuse to work but I truly believe that most Americans regardless of race work there butts off and have less and less to show for it. African Americans, last time I checked, made up about 12% of the us population (roughly 245 million, which approx 11 million of that number are on welfare). The poorest in our society did not cause our current problems we face, greed, lack of leadership, irresponsibiliy and lack of common sense did.

alice
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alice
July 30, 2011 12:20 pm

not necesarily! no! but gosh i hate it whenthey want to go black on everyone and everything!!!!! oh jsut becasue am black , balck this black that!!!!

this wasn’t supposed to be a race issue its about free phones!!!!!!!!!
but it all seems to be turn into a racial issue for some!!!!!!!!! specially african americans!!!!!

not jsut blacks and white folk get welfare! asian and lots of arminians if not go to hollywood and see!!!!!!!!:(

i am hispanic and make little money & still dont and have never been on any type of welfare!!! my husban became a citizen a few years ago like 3! after 14 years of marriage! yes and he hates the fact that many go straight to welfare after getting their legal documents!!! and i dont blame them no, with the economy who can blame them! but it does affect certain ethnicities!

get stereytped! like sayign the mexicans are taking our jobs! its just unfair and ridiculous, they get the jobs no one wants & for little money!

who here would work in the fields and pick cucumbers for 0.3 cents a lb? who is interest? no one ? off-course not!

trust me even i pay for those free phones!

have anyone see the phones for the dissabled? well we all pay for them too!

check your land line bill or cell bill! tax A, tax b or tax C? WTF?
even the poor who have a land lineor cell phone pay for those! so in the end even the poor pay for things they get! “for free!”

and yes i think we all know the poor people did not cause the currrent economic problems “GREED did ! mostly!

they government got so used to blaming everythign on the illegals and the poor that now it’ll be hard to get rid of it.

i’ve meet quit nice african americans, hard working ones! but i have met more lazy ones than anything! and not just blacks that’s for sure! but the fact that african americans are blaming mexicans and their ancestors being slaves is just wrong!!!! they need to stop! that’s all!

peace to all!!!!!

perlcat
Member
July 30, 2011 8:52 pm

You make interesting points. You sound like an intelligent young lady with a lot of pride and are well on your way to being successful. I’d like to point something out to you, though.

You said:

“like sayign(sic) the mexicans are taking our jobs! its(sic) just unfair and ridiculous, they get the jobs no one wants & for little money!

who here would work in the fields and pick cucumbers for 0.3 cents a lb? who is interest(sic)?”

These jobs are not wanted because they pay poorly. No doubt. They pay poorly because there are many people who will accept that pay because they do not have legal status. In fact, before there was such a large influx of illegal labor to be taken advantage of, those jobs paid considerably more. I still can remember when working in the meatpacking industry was viewed as a good job. It is no more.

Sadly, no one is looking out for those laborers, either. Certainly not their union. Their union collects relatively high dues based upon the eventuality of a strike, knowing full well that illegal immigrants are not stupid enough to go on strike, call attention to themselves, and get deported. In the meantime, the pay rate has not kept pace with the times, and the safety conditions have become intolerable due to the unholy marriage between the unscrupulous unions and the equally unscrupulous people that hire people that clearly are here illegally.

In a more just world, the employers that wish to hire Mexicans at a lower wage would move the jobs to Mexico, rather than abuse the US’ legal system and economy. While that would mean that jobs would leave the US, the US is free to compete in other ways, and Mexico is able to develop their economy, rather than rely upon people wiring money to their relatives back home. In addition, since these people would be working *legally*, they would have the full protection of the law — far too many people have been maimed with no accountability to the people that create these unsafe work conditions.

If you wonder who to blame for this sorry state of affairs? Blame a mix of Democrat politics as well as a dose of crony capitalism from the establishment Republicans. This has to stop — not because anyone here bears any animosity to Mexicans — far from it — the people of Mexican and hispanic descent I know personally are wonderful people who want nothing more than the same chance to succeed that anyone else has. It has to stop because it is wrong to treat people as pawns in electioneering and profiteering schemes.

flashingscotsman
Member
June 7, 2012 12:12 pm

If welfare weren’t so easily available, maybe Americans would do those jobs.

Christiane
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Christiane
July 22, 2011 8:59 am

Most of you are missing the main points. First, only one phone is given to a household, no matter how many people are there. Second, the phones are given to those who qualify and prove it. Third, I remember the initial ads claimed to give the phones for emergencies. I wish I had a cell phone with me when a pack of dogs attacked me. Every second counts. I wish I had a cell phone when there was a trailer fire next door and my landline did not work. Again, every second counts. What if a senior citizen cannot get to a landline but has a cell phone in one pocket. I repeat…. Every second counts. Sure, some people may abuse it, at least in your minds, but even if one life is saved, it is worth it. Scam? I do not believe that at all. The phone companies can benefit from publicity and extra dollars from those who pay for extra minutes and features. Think about those who work and do not have much to support a family. They need and deserve an extra break, and this is not much to give them. So, why complain? I repeat….If it saves one life, it is worth it!!!

PsychoDad
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PsychoDad
July 30, 2011 5:10 am

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. A lawfully – carried 9mm would have been better to have than a cell phone. Be glad it was only dogs and not a gang of angry urban youths.

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49
July 30, 2011 5:30 am

A 9mm is good, but a .50 cal says “run or die”!

RockingHorseGuy
Member
October 21, 2011 10:30 am

Or maybe, run and STILL die?

David Bishop
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David Bishop
July 27, 2011 8:23 pm

If it’s profitable for those companies, then why subsidize it with government funding?

Reggie
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Reggie
July 13, 2011 4:42 pm

My wife and I also made over $100k per year, nice home, car etc. etc.. I felt the same way about gov’t handouts as most of you do. I often felt so upset when paying property tax, self employment tax, payroll taxes, sales use tax and income tax and I thought where does it stop. I did end up having to use the welfare system. My wife was diagnosed with cancer, she was hospitalized to the point where the insurance company stopped paying mid treatment. We quickly ran through $60k of savings. I let two of the employees go and filled the orders myself during the middle of the night. One night while leaving someone robbed and shot me. I lived, obviously, but I missed payments, credit lines where decreased or closed and the business that I worked years at building closed. Although I paid 100% of unemployment taxes on my payroll check, I only got 40% of what I qualified for because I owned the business. This is all while dealing with a sick wife and three kids. I had nothing left. Electricity off, phone off, cable off and enough unemployment for food. I maxed credit card on hospital bills. I sold everything I could think of to turn things around. It felt like the worst day of my life when I had to go ask for help. They gave me food stamps, insurance for my family and told me about the phone program and energy assistance to get the lights back on. I used the phone only to search for work and as an emergency contact number. After healing, I got called for a job and my income is now about 40k. I know there is a ton of waste and fraud in the system but I am so grateful for the assistance and have a greater appreciation for the term unforeseen circumstances.

Kyle
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Kyle
July 1, 2011 10:25 am

Let’s not forget that there are those out there who actually need these phones. I live in Maine and use a transportation service called Community Concepts. It is paid for by Maincare which is “a ‘Federal/State’ program which provides health and dental insurance assistance to people with limited resources” (www.maine.gov/pfr/insurance/glossary.htm -source) I get rides every week to Tri-County Mental Health services in order to work out the two most prominent debilitating mental conditions that I have -social anxiety and severe memory loss (although the memory problems seem to be caused by a recently discovered cyst instead of some mental block). But in order to schedule a ride to these appointments, I need a phone. This free (to me) phone really helps me out. I’m able to schedule rides to work on my problems so that one day I can become a tax payer and productive member of society.

With that being said, I think if someone is receiving benefits from the government (foodstamps, social security or whatever), their benefits should be reduced by as much as it would cost to get and keep the phone. I receive $200 a month in foodstamps. Let’s say the option was available to get a prepaid phone from the government. it’s $10 for the cheapest phone and if I were to get a monthly plan, $20 would get me 125 minutes. That’s about 80 minutes extra that I wouldn’t use -it only takes 5-10 minutes to schedule a ride. 4 rides for my mental health and occasionally a 5th and 6th ride for a regular doctor and the dentist. So the first month of my new phone I would receive $170 in foodstamps and subsequently $180/month. I would be perfectly fine with that. If I went with a 50 minute plan, I would receive $190/month.

Just to be clear, I’m not saying that poor people are entitled to these phones, what I’m saying is that they should be required to make the choice to have the money taken from their foodstamps or social security (or whatever is received) if they want the phone, or just go without. I don’t speak for everyone, I’m just providing food for thought. –maybe just a snack actually.

RockingHorseGuy
Member
July 1, 2011 12:32 pm

Gee, you COULD just take thirty dollars of the money we already give you, and go to WalMart, or CircleK, and BUY a prepaid phone. It comes with minutes, that last as long as it takes you to use them. Problem solved. Keep up with those mental health appointments. You need them.

Kyle
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Kyle
July 10, 2011 9:08 am

Here’s the shortened, more understandable version:
I was trying to say that it would be $30 less spending the first month and $20 less spending in subsequent months as opposed to the $200 plus the phone. Without the phone, I will not be able to make appointments, and my mental health would continue to decline. Please don’t tell me you are actually complaining that there is somebody out there who wants to spend as little of your tax dollars as possible, for the least amount of time as possible. Perhaps you should enroll in treatment yourself. You are seemingly unable to understand that spending less money is a good thing. It would also seem that you have an ego so big, it’s obvious you’re trying to compensate for something.

Just in case you still don’t get it, here is a different way of looking at it:
Our government (however decrepit it may seem) has given the OK for these phones. That means, it is thought that they will provide some benefit in the long run. The phone is a valuable resource for me and people like me. If I did not have this phone I would likely continue to leech off your valuable tax dollars for the rest of my life. With the phone, I can make appointments and eventually rewire my brain to function in society, get rid of my foodstamps and hold a job – which means I will be paying taxes, and paying back all the money the government has spent on me.

“Keep up with those mental health appointments. You need them.”
I would appreciate if you actually read what I wrote. Saying “you need them” in reference to my mental health appointments, could mean:

A.) You can magically tell from my comment the exact severity of my social anxiety and memory loss.

B.)You skimmed over parts of my comment that you deemed invalid.

C.) You have nothing better to do than throw a bit of a temper tantrum on the internet by attempting insult those less fortunate.

D.) All of the above.

RockingHorseGuy: “Erm…Answer number D!!!” DING DING DING!!! Congratulations, RockingHorseGuy, you are the winner of The Least Valid Commenter award!!! You only have five business days to claim your prize, so ACT NOW!!! Feel free to complain about how you’ve won! Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go spend more of your tax dollars.

RockingHorseGuy
Member
July 10, 2011 10:18 pm

You don’t get out much, do you?

Kyle
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Kyle
July 11, 2011 1:22 pm

Yeah, it’s called SOCIAL anxiety for a reason. I will admit that not everything I say is well thought out, but at least I don’t try to set loose a random collection of statements and insults onto the internet.

I have to hand it to you though. You can bring up valid points. You just come across a little strong and sometimes end up insulting people too much for them to take you seriously. I realize you actually have valid things to say, like when Lea said her husband works 60-70 hours per week and still got welfare. It does sound a bit fishy. But the way you replied, it almost sounded as if you were blaming her for some unfortunate circumstances. I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt. perhaps you are not as rude as you seem. Try wording your comments carefully to avoid coming off as rude.

Lea
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Lea
July 11, 2011 4:51 pm

I did feel disrespected. My husband does NOT have a lousy job. In our area, he has an awesome job. Most of his friends, in construction, make much less than he does. Benefits just are NOT standard here, in our area.
If you can find a job for him that makes $40 per hour, around here, I’ll buy YOU a cellphone, lol. It just doesn’t exist, even with the years of experience he has.
For years he was self employed, but it is too shaky now, in his industry. He is very proud, and the hardest working man I have ever met.
He makes salary, based on 40 hours at $26.50 per hour. Most of the companies here start at $13 per hour. $13!!!!! No overtime, either. With no benefits, it is cheaper to hire another guy at $13 than pay overtime. He makes twice as much as guys twenty years older than he is, because he does the job right and is willing to go in early and stay late if need be. That’s why we are blessed to make what we do.
I never stated that I was going to get this phone forever. It is helpful, however, and as a taxpaying American, I feel no shame in accepting help when we hit a rough time and had exhausted our savings. Hopefully, we will get ahead again soon and not have a need for help. It takes time, however, it doesn’t happen overnight.
I understand the frustration for those who are cheating the system, not trying to get ahead. However, sometimes you try as hard as you can and life throws you a curveball. It is impossible to plan for everything.

RockingHorseGuy
Member
July 11, 2011 10:31 pm

Again, he has an “awesome” job, and you still qualify for welfare. It ain’t workin’ here. Either you’re lying, or welfare is just a bit too easy to qualify for.

Lea
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Lea
July 12, 2011 12:22 pm

Well, go to the Maryland Energy assistance website and look for yourself if you don’t believe me. The newest guidelines say the limit for our family is $59,167.50 per year. Why would I come here and lie? To be insulted? No thank you.
Is it so hard to believe that a family can fall on hard times and take a while to get out? We had savings, we used them for emergencies, that is what they were for.
Have you thought of running for office? If you were elected, you could help make the laws, and maybe then you would be happy. 🙂

RockingHorseGuy
Member
July 28, 2011 3:59 pm

Like I said, and you just proved it for me, welfare is a bit too easy to qualify for.

fredfred
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fredfred
July 12, 2011 3:33 pm

Eleven years ago, my wife and I were both working and bringing in about 100,000 between the two of us. We were living fairly decently, had a couple of nice cars, great neighborhood, did the family vacation thing etc., etc. Then our daughter fell ill was hospitalized for almost a year with an additional six months worth of in and out hospital stays. Our insurance ran out, our savings were depleted, and my wife had to quit her job in order to tend to the needs of our child.

We found ourselves in a situation where we were trying to maintain our lifestyle on half the income. It simply was not working and we had a choice – to go on the “dole” (we most certainly qualified for it) or adjust our lifestyle to fit within our means. We chose the latter because it just did not sit well with either of us to be taking handouts in order to maintain a lifestyle we were ill equipped to afford. Both of us would have had a lot of trouble facing our neighbors knowing that they were subsidizing our very existence.

We sold our house and found another that was affordable – still in it, by the way – not the prettiest house and not the “perfect” neighborhood, but we can afford it. We sold our nice cars to get rid of the monthly payments, pared down our monthly expenses – got rid of cable TV, the book clubs, the dry cleaners and all the other fluff and non-necessary things. It was difficult at first, but it really did not take all that long to get used to it.

During those hard times, many people told us we should seek assistance – many told us we were stupid for not taking advantage of it since we “paid in” all those years through our taxes, so it was in essence “our” money anyway. We did not and do not look at it that way – I was still working and made decent money so we never even considered assistance as a viable option.

You see; far too many people in this country feel they are entitled to a “good” life and deserve to have everything they want simply because they exist. Far too many people in this country perpetuate that sense of entitlement by allowing it to become a lifestyle, or career if you will. If someone is truly indigent, then by all means help them out – but if someone is living in a 150,000 house they can’t afford, handing them free stuff and subsidizing their mortgage, phones, food, etc. at others expense is most certainly sending a very wrong message. The best way to help out that particular person would be to teach them what it means to live within a budget.

“Give a man fish you feed him for a day…teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime”…or something like that.

perlcat
Member
July 12, 2011 1:42 pm

Here’s where you lost me, Lea.

If you cannot make it on $50,000 a year, then you have to find a place where $50,000 is sufficient to make it. Or do something else. Sorry, life is full of hard choices. Sounds like you have a great family, and the time spent raising your kids will reward you in the long run.

Nobody is compelling you to work for a sub-survival wage — your choice is to live in a place where it isn’t possible to. If good people move away from bad situations, then eventually, they will all migrate to where the wages are better. You are right in that a mortgage is hard to support in an area where entry level houses are $150,000 — that leaves you paying almost half your husband’s salary on mortgage.

As to there being no place to live that are better? Unemployment is around 5% where I live, and I just had two houses sold in my neighborhood for $50,000 — which trashed the $70,000 value of my house. It isn’t a castle, but it’s mine, and I can afford all 1400 sq feet of it, even on unemployment — which is exactly why I chose to buy a small, cheaper house. Median income is $35,000, so you guys would be the rich people in town.

If the rest of the country is compelled to subsidize people so they can live beyond their means in the place they prefer, then the people who chose a more economical neighborhood are taking a beating so you can live in what would be a *very* affluent neighborhood around here. How fair is that? Why can’t I just take a little out of everybody’s paycheck, so I can live in a wealthy neighborhood?

In addition, I have lived without a cell phone raising kids for twenty years — why, again, should I be compelled to pay for you to have what I saw as an excessive expense and did without?

I am all for charity — but if my charity money goes to someone better off than I, then there is some explaining that needs to happen. So start with the explanation of *why* it is necessary for the rest of the nation to pay for your discretionary expenses.

whiskeyriver
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whiskeyriver
July 11, 2011 7:21 pm

Waaa, waaa, waaa. It sounds like you are one of the “keep up with the Jone’s” type. If what you say is true your hubby is earning about $50 grand per year and you can’t “get by” on that? I know a lot of working folks where I live that are raising families on a lot less and they pay their own way. No gooberment provided cell phones or internet service, they pay their own way.

From what you say here I would just about bet you live in a, for example, fancy $150,000 dollar house when a smaller home worth $75,000 would work just fine. I bet you have 2 newer model cars, or a car and a pickup, in the driveway that you make payments on instead of taking care of and driving a paid for car or pickup.

Are you making payments on a couple of ATV’s or “personal water craft”? Or is it a bass boat instead? Do you owe the bank so much money on loans you will be paying until the day you die? Are your credit card bills so high you have to pay the minimum every month so you can continue to use them? If so you are a fool and need to learn how to manage your finances.

I may not have much but everything I have is paid for. My home, the 1800 square foot “vacation” cabin near Angel Fire, my pickup, car and Harley, all paid for because I never lived outside my income, saved my money, never had a credit card, paid cash for what I wanted other than home mortagage payments.

Until you, and a lot of Americans, get the message and quit worrying about “keeping up with the Jone’s”, you will always be broke and taking from Peter to pay Paul each month. If your hubbys salary doubles next week it will not matter, you will waste it on foolish things like a new car, boat or pickup and your lot in life will remain the same.

And you expect me, a responsible taxpayer to pay for your cell phone service? As my Aussie friend would say, bugger off. You dig your own hole, you figure out how to climb out of it.

Lea
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Lea
July 12, 2011 12:03 pm

I have no idea why I keep coming back here, lol.
I do not know where you live, but can I move there, lol? Where in the WORLD would I get a home for $75,000. Here, even in the rural area we live in, a home to fit our family is at least $170,000. We paid $137,900 for our house, 10 years ago. TOWNHOMES are at least $150,000, in a bad area. So are doublewides, on a lot, with additional lot rent. A single wide isn’t big enough for everyone. I have nothing against trailers, they aren’t big enough though.
Two new cars?? HA!! I may have spit out my drink at this one! One car seats 9, which is necessary for us. We do have a *small* payment. The car is 7 years old, and was bought used. It will be paid off as soon as possible. Our other car is a 1981 Toyota that seats 5. My favorite car, it has historic tags and was my grandmother’s car. It was our only car for years. If we still all fit in it, we would still have just the one car, and I would be very happy. In fact, if we ever scrape up the money to get this little car fixed, I will be very happy.
Keeping up with the Joneses is just NOT my thing. First of all, we can’t afford it. Second, why would I want to? Jet skis? A bass boat????? REALLY???? I mean, good grief!!!!!!!
If I want to fish, we go down to the river with some lemonade and spend a few hours fishing. We are down to earth, not hoity-toity. We dig our own worms. 🙂
I respectfully wish to tell you that you have no idea what you are talking about, sir. We live frugally, buy almost everything second hand, and make things last. We usually have a big garden, to supplement our large grocery budget. We buy a beef from a local farmer, we buy things on sale, and my husband has almost always worked TWO jobs, one regular job and then side jobs too, to make ends meet. Most people are struggling here right now, so not too many people want their siding replaced or a new roof, they are making do. So, less side work. Not to mention bartering, we do things for neighbors, they do things for us.
We simply fell behind, and it snowballed into a big mess. It took time to get into the mess, and it is taking time to get out. I should say that we make a lot more now thatn we used to. For the first 15 years or so of our marriage, we made around $20,000-$25,000 per year. This job has been an incredible opportunity for us, an answer to prayers. SO MANY are out of work, we are very fortunate that he has a good job.
In our state, as I have said before, the income levels are very high. This is not my fault, I do not set the guidelines. I am not doing anything illegal, we are simply accepting help we have paid for in our taxes, while we need it.
We do not abuse the system, we contribute to our community and we vote. There is no reason to feel bad that we fell on hard times and help was there.
If you are interested, go to the Maryland website and lookup the guidelines. They are very high, and it surprised me too.
I won’t judge you as you are judging me. I do not know you. However, I would caution you to think a while before accusing people of being something that they are not. Not everyone is out to get something for nothing their whole lives. Some of us are hard working, and honest, and want nothing more than to be good citizens and raise good, productive citizens in turn.

RockingHorseGuy
Member
July 28, 2011 3:58 pm

Sounds like you may have been breeding beyond your means.

sianna watson
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sianna watson
June 26, 2011 2:27 pm

im getting annoyed by all this racist crapp! reachout wireless is not a scam, all of us need help in some way, and it has nothing to do with our race… there is no such thing as only african americans, or other races needing help more or less than the white people… the least we can do is provide help for those less fortunate. some of you who commented are inconsiderate, racist, ignorent idiots.. why cant all races and ethnicities live together peacefully?… maybe one day…

gunitTa88
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gunitTa88
June 15, 2011 8:27 pm

You are some ignorant, ill-mannered, idiotic buffoons with an IQ less than that of a goldfish. Not the slightly more expensive ($1.50) puffy eyed goldfish but the 5-for-a-dollar ones you feed to oscars. (And no not that green motherf*cker in the trash can on channel 8). Talking about illegal immigrants and the “negras” swimming across the ocean because the government is allowing people to have a low minute phone in case of emergencies? Bigots like you are the reason they created the safelink phone program so that when the torches and pitchforkes come marching down the ave.; some have a way to call of help or say goodbye. Hopefully some wise up and use a few minutes to prank call your degenerate asses.

Ps: some words may be too big. Use a suck-my-dictionary.

dbdbdb
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dbdbdb
June 22, 2011 1:18 pm

first of all who and what gives you any right to call someone a buffoon, monkey, nigga or what ever dumb name you can come up with, You have a problem with people. Don’t be surprised if the closest female to you gets pregnant by one of those bad names you were calling people. Grow the hell up… if you don’t have sensible things to say don’t say or write them We are not back in slavery times where that is accepted or tolerated. You can be sued for slander. And the worst thing is…is that you probably really feel what you say is correct. that’s really SAD!!!

Alma Vasquez
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Alma Vasquez
June 5, 2011 7:17 am

i read a book on telecommunications, in it, it stated, that people in Africa pay $2 a month for phone service. And the companies still make a profit. So, it stands to reason, that here in the U.S., the companies make a huge profit when they sell you phone service for $100, and it only cost them $2 , that’s $98 in pure profit. Eventually, when this information gets out, phone service prices should fall, maybe to $15 a month or thereabouts.

KimmyQueen
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June 5, 2011 2:03 pm

That is seriously disgusting…

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