Quote of the Day
“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion [as a judge] than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

by Administrator on May 26, 2009

That was from Obama’s Supreme Court nominee Judge Sonia Sotomayor, in her Judge Mario G. Olmos Law and Cultural Diversity Lecture at the University of California Berkeley School of Law in 2001.

Now, go and read the Alternate Universe Quote of the Day to see how it would sound if John Roberts made a similarly racist quote.

Source: PunditandPundette.com

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porshaaaa
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porshaaaa

🙂 well at least you backed up your opinion unlike the other guy who I don’t feel like scrolling up to see the name of.

idaho2run
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idaho2run

There is more where that came from. I respect your reply. Sorry I lashed out.
Please refrain from insults or name-calling in discussions, it inflames people and invites retaliation. I will attempt to do so also.
Cite facts, figures, statements, backed up by references, sources, etc.
It brings credibility to your argument, and earns respect (grudgingly) if you are right. Which is not to say one side or the other is always right.
It is great that we are free to exchange ideas, insult and demean one another, criticize government and engage in verbal fisticuffs without going to jail, is it not? That is the beauty of a democracy.
I and others like me would like to keep it that way.
Thanks for your reply and civility this time.
I am sheathing my sabre now, and turning in for the night. Till we meet again…

idaho2run
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idaho2run

Sorry All,

Something about stupidity brings out the blue meanie in me…
I am in a great mood right now, watching news coverage of what may very well be come to know as the Tuesday Night Massacre occuring as we speak.
The people have spoken all over the country, and they are mad as hell, and not going to take it any more!
Guess I was hard on poorsha whatever, but, it is this mindless foolishness and acceptance of ass-clownery from the left that has brought us to the brink…
If you want to come to a fight, don’t come unarmed.
Right now, the MSM is almost in tears, making excuses, and minimizing Republicans, Tea Party folks and gnashing the teeth, wailing, and tearing the hair and clothing. It is beautiful.
Not all the voter fraud and electioneering is going to pull the dem’s fat out of the fire this time.
Hope and change? Ummmm, yeah.
Bless you all that voted and God Bless America!!!

Porshaaaaa
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Porshaaaaa

And paling speaks of singing Kumbaya with Obama. And this isnt racist? You are all by far mor ignorant than ignorant itself and more stupid than stupid itself. Conservatives are so brainless, as long as they are getting their money or killing something. Stupid stupid stupid, going to hell hell hell.

idaho2run
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idaho2run

Try spellcheck genius. Yore rightingk suks cuz u anit got no pucktuashun, gramar or meks eny cents.
Your scathing retort in the final line of your posting brings me to my reply:
Nyah, Nyah, Nyah!
Grow up, get a job, get off the drugs and come back down to earth.
Speaking of racism, check out the attitude, behavior and language oozing from the annointed ruler of the world, the OBAMA!!! He is the consumate (look it up) race-baiter. His attitude shows his disdain for Caucasians, Americans and the Founding Fathers.

porshaaaa
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porshaaaa

Sooooo typos makes one ignorant nowadayss huh? Well you’re super ignorant then. and quote something obama said and you won’t sound as stupid as you are in real life. Go kill something. You might feel better. Sorry Obama raised your taxes and you lose moneys. Haha.

idaho2run
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idaho2run

I didn’t lose “moneys” pea-brain. We ALL lose, in the form of taxes that will be passed on to our grandchildren, for those of us hetereos that still breed.
Obama claims to have ended to war in IRAQ-LIE. He won’t raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000.00-LIE. The Cambridge police acted stupidly-DUMB. Healthcare Reform won’t raise taxes or fund abortion-LIE.
Would you like me to go on? And that is without even looking it up.
Are you a producer or a taker? A payer or the one with a hand out?
From your obvious mastery of grammar and the English language, it appears you are not of this country, or fluent in Ebonics. Enlighten me, please.
As for the “killing” comment, that stands for itself. If anyone disagrees with your Doctoral Thesis Opinions, they are murderers?
Hey, turn on the TV or radio, if you are actually in the USA. The dems are getting their ass handed to them as we speak. Even after the imposter in chief, his shrew wife and court dunce VP play to literally HUNDREDS of people in venues all over this week…
NEXT ON A STATION NEAR YOU-REPUBLICANS HAVE THE HOUSE AND SENATE!!!
Bwaaaahaaaaaa haaaaaaaa!!! I voted, did you? And only once, using my real name and showing a real ID.
I feel your pain and anger at the massive loss suffered by your party and foolish ideas. And I gloat and revel in your pain….
Bwaaaahaaaaahaaaaa.
Good night!

Kate
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Kate

Sotomayor’s comment was really more about her life experiences than her race or gender. Whether or not one’s gender, race, age, or religion causes one to make better or different decisions is debatable. But it’s quite obvious that one’s experiences play a part. Taken out of context, anything can sound bad. If someone wishes to criticize Sotomayor, they should concentrate on her record.

Nate
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Nate

Her comment is without a doubt “racist” in that it implies that a particular race would be better suited to judge someone than another race. Her comment also was “sexist” in that it implies that a person of a particular sex is better suited to judge someone. That said, it is very understandable as most people’s experiences and perspectives in their life are based at least in part on how they are treated as they progress through their life (and of course race/sex plays a very important part of that). So, though her views ARE “racist” and “sexist”, who are we to condemn her for telling the truth about how we all think, even when we try not to? I do however think that everyone who called her a racist was not that far off and the media should drop that and focus on the more important issue of whether she is a fit candidate for the Supreme Court.

hardyhar
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hardyhar

locust –

Sure, let me know how that works out for you, Mr. Jr. McVeigh.

Administrator
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Mike, here’s the whole quote from the link you posted. Readers can decide if it changes anything.

“In our private conversations, Judge Cedarbaum has pointed out to me that seminal decisions in race and sex discrimination cases have come from Supreme Courts composed exclusively of white males. I agree that this is significant but I also choose to emphasize that the people who argued those cases before the Supreme Court which changed the legal landscape ultimately were largely people of color and women. I recall that Justice Thurgood Marshall, Judge Connie Baker Motley, the first black woman appointed to the federal bench, and others of the NAACP argued Brown v. Board of Education. Similarly, Justice Ginsburg, with other women attorneys, was instrumental in advocating and convincing the Court that equality of work required equality in terms and conditions of employment.

Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice O’Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases. I am not so sure Justice O’Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes that line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor Martha Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.

Let us not forget that wise men like Oliver Wendell Holmes and Justice Cardozo voted on cases which upheld both sex and race discrimination in our society. Until 1972, no Supreme Court case ever upheld the claim of a woman in a gender discrimination case. I, like Professor Carter, believe that we should not be so myopic as to believe that others of different experiences or backgrounds are incapable of understanding the values and needs of people from a different group. Many are so capable. As Judge Cedarbaum pointed out to me, nine white men on the Supreme Court in the past have done so on many occasions and on many issues including Brown.

However, to understand takes time and effort, something that not all people are willing to give. For others, their experiences limit their ability to understand the experiences of others. Other simply do not care. Hence, one must accept the proposition that a difference there will be by the presence of women and people of color on the bench. Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see.”

Mike
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Taken alone, yeah, this quote sounds racist. But it would have been more honest of you to post the entire argument that surrounds it. It doesn’t sound so racist then, but maybe that would have prevented you from raking mud.

Here’s a little more than just the soundbite you posted: http://www.seattlekarma.com/2009/05/27/is-obama%E2%80%99s-supreme-court-nominee-judge-sonia-sotomayor-racist/

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locust
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time for revolution is near, buy guns and ammo, no election is going to fix this nation.

whataloadacrap08
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whataloadacrap08

Just think how much wisdom she would have if she were a gay, crippled, transsexual, retarded, non-English speaking, convicted criminal, uneducated latina woman from Africa. A libs dream come true!

rob
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rob

racist left wing bitch