US, Britain warn about risks of Israel becoming involved in ground war. Obama said. “It’s not just preferable for the people of Gaza. It’s also preferable for Israelis, because if Israeli troops are in Gaza, they’re much more at risk of incurring fatalities or being wounded.” You just can’t make stuff like this up. We reply with the usual “No shit President Sherlock!”

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6 November 2012
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If people are killed, they die!

danybhoy
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I could post another metal classic, but I won’t. However, I will say that it’s called “Killed By Death”, & it’s from Motorhead.

GhostntheMachine
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No Way! Really? Who’d a thunk?

I love your running commentary sometimes, especially when I remember almost all of it comes off the top of your head.

poppajoe49
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He has an amazing amount of music knowlege in there, doesn’t he?
I thought I knew alot about music! But then, most of what I know is from the early 80’s and before.

GhostntheMachine
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ABBA fan, eh? Hah!

danybhoy
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I’m actually a big ABBA fan. Yep, Iron Maiden, Rammstein, Metallica, Volbeat, AC/DC…& ABBA. Yep, & I don’t care. They were an amazing band, & I’m sad that I’ll never get to see them live.

BTW poppa, there are more then a few guys out there still going strong & continue to rock well beyond 53.

Also, Ghost, much of it DOES come off the top of my fat head. Considering someone has writen a song about almost everything, it’s not that hard to make the connection.

GhostntheMachine
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Hey, hope you took that as the complement it was meant as?

danybhoy
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I knew how you meant it. It’s how my brain works, & it makes subjects more relatable. If people here find them entertaining in some way while trying to make a point, all the better.

GhostntheMachine
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So I can close my eyes & relive seeing AC|DC at Hara Arena? Look it up, And we had bunches of family burning the phone lines after the news broke about the Who debacle. Knew we went to all the shows, that one we missed (so to speak), still partying in the out-lot.

w/38 Special as warmup, best show I ever “heard” if you know what I mean. Rock On?

GhostntheMachine
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Meant look up Hara, awesome ‘hockey’ arena that happens to have great acoustics(?) Early\mid ’80s, So as always I’ll bow to your knowledge. Nowhere near your experience, but the best show I ever “heard”.

danybhoy
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Was that with Bon Scott?

poppajoe49
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Only of the women. 😉

GhostntheMachine
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Is it really true they dedicated this song to you on the albums liner notes? Read it on Cracked.com, must be true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg7ZsOFSV7c&feature=related

(re liner notes; once upon a time young’uns, there were these things called LP’s. Pressed on vinyl, can you believe it? Google it whippersnappers, and while you’re at it know this:

Steve Jobs, one of your demi-gods was always a serious audiophile. And after he made his big bucks I mean SERIOUS. And he was always shocked part of the reason he got rich was because so many people would trade convenience for quality. I read somewhere the # of LP’s he had and the system in his home, color me seriously green with envy.

poppajoe49
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You don’t have to explain liner notes to me, I still have more music on vinyl than CD. BTW, I’ve never owned an Apple product, so Steve Jobs has no place in my life.
Speaking of green, I have the Eagles Hotel California on green vinyl!

GhostntheMachine
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Hey now, you’re a year older than me I think, that was directed at the yutes not you. Or danyb for that matter.

sa_rose
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You are all babies! I;m older than ALL of you! HAhA

flashingscotsman
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I’m no baby! I even qualify to order from the senior menu in some restaurants!

sa_rose
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You are ALL babies! LOL

poppajoe49
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Ghost, you ain’t hit 50, so, it counts.

Flash, VERY good point!

flashingscotsman
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“ABBA fan, eh? Hah!”

“Only of the women.”

Only when they’re facing away from me, and not singing.

GhostntheMachine
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4 years, but at this stage who’s counting?

poppajoe49
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I’m 53, born in 1959.

danybhoy
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Israel vs Gaza & probably Egypt. Well, it’s an ancient story, & the plight of the Hebrew people is the subject of the song “Creeping Death” by Metallica from their 1984 album, “Ride The Lightning”. Here is a live version, recorded in Tel Aviv, Israel at the Ramat Gan Stadium on 5/22/2010…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=draPGbwdtzM

…lots of Jewish metalheads love the fact that this song was performed in Israel, I know at least 1 guy there, & it was a big deal on top of the show itself.
Here are the words if you need to see what it’s all about…

Slaves, Hebrews born to serve
To the Pharaoh
Heed to his every word
Live in fear

Faith, of the unknown one
The deliverer
Wait, something must be done
For hundred years

So let it be written
So let it be done
I’m sent here by the chosen one

So let it be written
So let it be done
To kill the first born Pharaoh son
I’m creeping death

Now, let my people go
Land of Goshen
Go, I will be with thee
Bush of fire

Blood, running red and strong
Down the Nile
Plague, darkness three days long
Hail to fire

So let it be written
So let it be done

I’m sent here by the chosen one

So let it be written
So let it be done
To kill the first born Pharaoh son
I’m creeping death

Die by my hand
I creep across the land
Killing first-born man

Die by my hand
I creep across the land
Killing first-born man

I, rule the midnight air
The destroyer
Born, I shall soon be there
Deadly mass

I, creep the steps and floor
Final darkness
Blood, lambs blood painted door
I shall pass

So let it be written
So let it be done
I’m sent here by the chosen one

So let it be written
So let it be done
To kill the first born Pharaoh son
I’m creeping death

…this song is just 1 of many reasons to love Metallica, & damn it, I need to see them again.

I'm With STUPID
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Me Likie

danybhoy
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Thank me!

ooddballz
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NOT my type of music, but I applaud the sentiment.

danybhoy
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That’s fair. This is from a wiki page explaining it more fully…

The band was inspired for the song by the second half of the film The Ten Commandments, which is based upon the Bible tale of the plagues which were bestowed upon the Egyptians. While watching a scene in which one of the plagues kills every Egyptian first-born child, bassist Cliff Burton remarked “Whoa – it’s like creeping death.” The band liked the sound of “creeping death” and decided to write a song about the plagues, with the phrase as its title.[4]

[edit] Biblical references

The song is being told from the point of view of Moses,[citation needed] the leader of the Hebrews in Egypt and also mentioned dialogues he has with God. Throughout the song, some of the ten plagues are mentioned, all from the story of the “Hagada”, The Passover exodus. Moses repeatedly demanded from Pharaoh to set the Hebrew slaves free from Egypt, famously known as “Let my people go” and insisted he was sent by God, to the promised land (“Land of Goshen”), which wouldn’t be affected by the plague (Exodus 8:22-23). To prove his point and persuade Pharaoh as Pharaoh refused to do, Moses, guided by God, laid ten strikes on the Egyptians. The ten strikes:
To kill the first born Pharaoh’s son: The tenth and most severe strike — The God of Israel killed every firstborn Egyptian that was a boy (In reference to the Pharaoh’s order to throw every Hebrew firstborn into the Nile). One such child was the Pharaoh’s firstborn
I will be with thee, bush of fire: Refers to God speaking to Moses through a burning bush.
Blood, Running red and strong, down the Nile: The first of the ten plagues, water of the Nile turned to blood
Plague: This line refers to any of the ten plagues
Darkness three days long: The ninth of the ten, the sun was blocked for three days
Hail to fire: The seventh of the ten, burning hail fell from the sky
Blood, lamb’s blood painted door; I shall pass: Passover; the night God slew the firstborns of Egyptian families. The Hebrews were warned earlier by Moses to paint the doorpost with lamb blood so God would pass over their houses and not kill their sons (this is actually why the holiday is called Passover)…

BTW, if you did’nt figure it out by now, most of what I listen to is very agressive & loud. I love the big sound that can fill the biggest venues. I know it’s not for everyone, & that’s cool. That means there will be more room for me at the next show should I choose to go.

That Guy
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Anyone else looked at Yahoo news these past few days? The biggest headlines are all about how Gaza is being hammered and tons of people are dying and it’s all the evil Israeli’s fault.

No mention at all of the hundreds of rockets launched by the crazies in Gaza. Not until you’ve gotten through the first few paragraphs talking about how we should support people who are lobbing high explosives indiscriminately at our allies.

sa_rose
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Tht is exactly what I think everytime I hear someone bitch about the Israelis bpmbong the strip! I feel for the innocents getting caught inthe middle, but really are they supposed to just take 100 rockets a day being fired into Israel? REALLY? And they did put up with it a while before they started bombing back. Hamas broke the cease fire, and now they are experiencing the consequences of that behavior. As far as advice from Barry, I’d sooner bomb him too. It would be good for the international community.

Sidekick
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I know you’re not shocked.

That Guy
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Do I look shocked? Disappointed? Sure. Shocked? Nope.

danybhoy
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Israel needs to go all out & destroy what needs to be destroyed, & kill who needs to be killed. They also need to warn the UN straight away that they have failed in the past, & they need to be viewed as the enemy as far as Israel is concerned, & should be treated as such. The general population of Gaza & the Palistinian territories need to suffer to such a level that they reject the likes of the PLO, Hamas, & the other various terrorist groups that make up the ruling class there. It’s time for the IDF & the Mossad to put an end to this BS once & for all.

poppajoe49
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Do the “official” rules of war apply when you are fighting off a terrorist attack?

Just sayin’

danybhoy
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Rules of war? As determined by the UN? Screw them, they are as much of an enemy as those launching rockets from Gaza. Also, media operations who only show the “poor Palistinian” side of the story & the hell with objective coverage of this war should be targeted if neccessary. Israel needs to really quit effing around & finish off what the punks in Hamas, Hezbolah, & the PLO types, started. Total war, period, end of story, & if that means they seize more land, DO IT. Seek & Destroy.

GhostntheMachine
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But, but the international community would be soooo disappointed. It’s in the article so it must be true; “A ground invasion is much more difficult for the international community to sympathize with or support…”

So sick of hearing about what that whole international community thinks. Think they’d sit up and take notice if I cc’d every single one of them and told them exactly what I thought of them?

Nah, you’re right, I’m a bitter clinger (beats the hell out of being a bitter Klinger) who needs to be re-indoctrinated. Wolverines!

drb
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I am so sick if this Nation worrying about what the “international community” thinks. That’s like worrying what the neighbors would think if you dared to paint your dining room red rather than biege. Oh the horror!

GhostntheMachine
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Did you? Really? Paint it I mean.

drb
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No, I actually want to strip the wallpaper off of my kitchen walls and paint them red (ok burgundy wine) but, time and money, ya know. When ya got the time, ya don’t got the money and when ya got the money ya don’t got the time

GhostntheMachine
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I almost slipped, and maybe kinda mentioned you could, oh I don’t know, use a handy-man. But I didn’t. Mention it that is.
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? Would look great with a dark hardwood floor, with splashes of color in the room; fresh center piece, table settings, My G-ma’s quilt on an antique rack in the corner, little evolved duck-billed platypuses in tails lining the armoire…

Oh, you said kitchen, I was thinking dining room, my mistake.

drb
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Yup, that’s the color I want…WOW, you are droppin’ all kinds of hints there my friend. 😀

GhostntheMachine
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Just a friend, from waaaaaayyy up here, kinda West-NorthWest from where you be, but it is fun. Do your hardwood floor for free, if’n you don’t make me sleep on the porch and promise I can have my macaroni w/out spam. Deal?

[edit] Whoa, I just re-read that and it could really be taken wrong, sleep on the sofa not outside, it’ll take two days to do the floor & paint, so no Spam in my pasta. No offense.

drb
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Quetions about Spam?

http://www.spam.com/

GhostntheMachine
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Seriously? My mom always told me it meant SpanishHam, Spam. Always thought I was being Continental, she lied?

flashingscotsman
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Oh, THAT Spam! Fry up a few slices, put it on a biscuit with egg and cheese, and I’m all set. But, don’t I remember it being inexpensive many years ago?

poppajoe49
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Ha-ha-ha!
If it don’t come in a can that says “spiced ham” on it, I’m not interested.

drb
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teehee

flashingscotsman
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Gimme your email address, Poppa. I’ll send all my spam over to you.

poppajoe49
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HEY! I like Spam!

drb
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sounds like a plan

GhostntheMachine
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Me too Skipette, didn’t mean to imply anything, why I tried to backtrack the comment, in my heavy-handed way. (but I’d still do it for nothin)

{_}3 AM it is.

drb
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Slow down there Skippy, I’ll have to think about all that. Just sayin’

drb
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Terrorists don’t follow any rules why should anyone else?

flashingscotsman
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Terrorists will kill their own children for propaganda purposes. I’m pretty sure that would be against the rules.

NodakSuz
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” if Israeli troops are in Gaza, they’re much more at risk of incurring fatalities or being wounded.”

Would that comment qualify for a Darwin Award? If so, it might go nicely with the Nobel Peace Prize he ‘won’.

flashingscotsman
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I certainly wish Dear Leader qualified for a Darwin Award.

Not so silent
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What’s Barry worried about, that the IDF will go into Gaza and kill thousands of Barry’s future voters? Israel needs to do what it must to protect itself..If a few thousand Camel Riders and their Burka babes get wasted it can only help the Arab gene pool….Might even prevent the birth of another Mockmood Ineedajob.

I'm With STUPID
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Uhhh..Let me be clear…Its uhhhhh um a bad idea for Israel to ummm protect itself against my uh fellow brothers um the muslim brotherhood, al queda, hamas, taliban…etc… these are my muslim friends that I umm support with weapons whenever possible. It is my goal to help the middle class… ummm that is the middle east class. thank you[cheers] thank you[ more cheers]

Neo-7
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A profound CSI moment for Barry .

I can’t even ponder what Biden might have uttered .

StrinaM
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If I were Netenyahu I would hang up on the pres if he ever called to talk me out of anything. The pres has proven that he won’t do anything to help Isreal and that they are on their own.

drb
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Perfection…Luv it! (avi)

GhostntheMachine
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Was StrinaM here when you had your “no you can’t, but I can”?

drb
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I don’t know for sure, but I think so.

poppajoe49
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Yes Strina, I must admit that avi fits you very well.

GhostntheMachine
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Cool, avatar tag. And while I liked Santa Puppy, think this one is so you.

Not so silent
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Newtenyahu just needs to get a new phone number and not let Barry have it….

RobertW
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fer sure.

flashingscotsman
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And change his Facebook ID.

marcomom
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Guess he forgot his telepromter! What an embarrassment.

poppajoe49
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Did you see his speech in Thailand this morning?
I have heard less “um’s” and “uh’s” at a stutterer’s convention!
I guess the First Teleprompter is on vacation.

BobontheJob
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“if Israeli troops are in Gaza, they’re much more at risk of incurring fatalities or being wounded.”
Thank you Captain Obvious. Actually, genius, they’re at risk just standing outside in Israel with all the rockets being fired.
I know if I was considering war, this probably wouldn’t be my go-to guy for advice. I mean, Obama wearing a bomber jacket is like Pee Wee Herman in a Dick Butkus jersey.

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