U.S. cardinal calls out the Pope for ill-advised words in Chile. It’s about time someone grew some intestinal fortitude and started calling this guy to account. He’s turning the Vatican into a worldwide joke. The commission to handle the issue of sexual abuse by priests was caught having gay orgies, the Pope merely “re-assigned” a priest who had raped children for years–to Argentina, his home country–and the Pope had this to say to victims of sexual abuse in Chile who aired accusations against a bishop:

“The day I see proof against Bishop Barros, then I will talk. There is not a single piece of evidence against him. It is all slander. Is that clear?”

In other words, under Pope Francis the Catholic Church will continue to do what the Catholic Church has done for centuries: cover up for pedophile priests and label their victims liars.

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JPTravis
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KimmyQueen
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So called Prophet from India Sadhu Sundar, I say so called because I don’t know yet, says Francis is the False Prophet of Revelation that will point to Anti-Christ and state that he is god. We shall see. He says that the seven years of tribulation is coming soon. He stated that Trump’s Jerusalem move started a Revelations clock. Again we shall see.

sifi
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Interesting. I recently watched the documentary linked below. It reveals the Roman Catholic Church and it’s evil actions to stop the reformation. The Jesuits were like Hitlers gestapo. So many tortured and killed just because reformist wanted the Bible available to everyone. It shows that the papacy seeks to replace God in order to control the people. You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.

A Lamp In The Dark: The Untold History Of The Bible [2010]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2NBPIOgiLk

It’s long, but brings much to light.

JPTravis
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The Jesuits have a nasty past which is why the church never raised a Jesuit to the position of Pope before. Many times over the years the church came close to outlawing the Jesuit order altogether. And now, for some strange reason, they decided to have a Jesuit Pope. It’s weird. If you look in a dictionary, one of the definitions for “Jesuit” will be something along the lines of “crafty equivocating person,” because they are known for their use of deceitful intellectual language to justify positions which are in opposition to Christian principles… and doesn’t that sound awfully familiar to anybody watching this pope go about his business? I’m sure in the next few days, now that the shit has hit the fan, the Vatican will put out a Jesuit-like statement that the Pope didn’t mean what he said, or the Pope never got the letter Cardinal O’Malley says he gave him, or some other legalistic excuse for the Pope’s despicable behavior in Chile.

One thing I’ve noticed ever since Pope Francis took office is how often they use language to justify something the Pope said. That’s a very Jesuit-like excuse. Almost every Pope is fluent in many different languages, it almost seems like that’s a job requirement. But this is the first Pope I’ve noticed who constantly needs to use the excuse, “Oh he wasn’t speaking in his native language, that’s why it sounded wrong.”

sifi
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The documentary shows where the Jesuits were sent out to infiltrate and destroy the efforts of the reformists. They went through much lethal training and learning of deception. ‘Tares Among the Wheat’ is the sequel, I haven’t seen yet, to ‘Lamp In the Dark’.

JPTravis
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What’s so strange about this thread, your posts, is that just a week ago I downloaded an eBook titled “Fifty Years in the Church of Rome” written by a Catholic priest, born in 1809, who became a priest and then at the age of about 50 left the church and wrote this scathing book that eviscerated the Church. I haven’t read it yet but based on the chapter titles, he considers the Church of Rome to be monstrous and bent upon devious conspiratorial designs.

whiskeyriver
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I have said it many times, I will say it again. Crap like this is why I do not believe in organized religion. The Catholics say their was is the only way to salvation. The Lutherans say the same thing. Baptists say their way is the only way, so do the Methodists. The Jews say you have to believe their way or face damnation, so do the Muslims. It’s all bullshit as far as I am concerned.

Organized religions are mans invention, not Gods. Jesus never said you had to sit in some grandiose momument to pray. Yet almost all religions have these huge monstronsities for people to sit in and listen to a priest, preacher, Imam, whatever. They were built so man could stand up and say “see how much I love you Lord”.
Jesus never said I had to pay a man wearing $1000 suits and $500 Italian loafers to tell me how to live. Especially when I wear $30 Wanglers and $100 shitkickers.

You want to know what I would call a “religious” experience? When I step out on the deck in the morning with a cup of coffee and watch the sun come up over the lake. I can say a little prayer right there, thanking the Lord for one more day on earth. And I didn’t need a fancy building to do it in either, just me and the Lord.

People have been killing each other for over 2000 years over differences in opinions in what God and Jesus were trying to say to us. Killing each other over some stupid mans invention called “religion”. No thanks, I’ll just stand out on the deck tomorrow and thank Him for another glorious day on earth. Don’t even have to send Him any money.

sifi
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Oh Buddha – The Imperials

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy2rDllbh3s

Listen all the way through. One of my all time favorite Christian songs.

whiskeyriver
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Why will the Buddhists end up in hell? That song says everything about organized religion that I hate. THERE IS NO ONE PATH TO GOD! There are many paths to salvation and just because you or anyone else does not think so does not mean that is not true. Now think about this, how many Shinto or Buddhists have killed others over a difference of opinion when it comes to religion? None. No wars. No mass killings of those who do not believe the same way. Only Christians and Muslims believe in holy wars because others do not worship the way they think people should worship.

JPTravis
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You are completely wrong about the Shinto and Buddhist religions. You’ve fallen for the Hollywood anti-Christian propaganda. They kill plenty of people. Not like Muslims of course but then nobody kills as many people as Islam… Islam is basically a dressed-up death cult.

Dalai Lama voices sorrow over Buddhist violence in Myanmar

As for Shinto, look up Bushido. Or remember that the emperor of Japan during WWII was considered a Shinto god… as they slaughtered people all over the Pacific basin.

whiskeyriver
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“Essentially, this [bushido] was a codification of moral conduct by the warriors of Japan. From our perspective in this country, I suspect we’d find it still a pretty harsh code of conduct. But, it did impose certain responsibilities for the leaders and the followers. Essentially, the ideal of this code was to cultivate right behavior, to live with personal integrity, to learn politeness, benevolence and loyalty. ”

Bushito was not a religion like Catholic or Islam JP, it was a way of teaching young men how to be warriors.

“In January 1946, Emperor Hirohito famously renounced his divine status in an imperial transcript known as his “declaration of humanity.” The statement, made under the U.S. Occupation, was a prelude to the rewriting of Japan’s Constitution the same year.”

Hirohito was not a strict Shinto either buddy so your argument holds no water.

JPTravis
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Are you kidding me right now? Here are your exact words: “…how many Shinto or Buddhists have killed others over a difference of opinion when it comes to religion? None. No wars. No mass killings of those who do not believe the same way.” I have given you examples of both, belying what you said. I don’t give a flying fuck whether Hirohito renounced his godhood, Japanese Shintos rampaged around the Pacific basin mass murdering people everywhere they went, and as for Buddhists, even the TOP Buddhist is upset by the mass killings currently being perpetrated by his fellow religionists. You made blanket statements that were demonstrably false, and furthermore those blanket statements are straight from the Hollywood left-wing playbook. So I’m correcting you.

whiskeyriver
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But the Japanese atrocities during WWII had nothing to do with a specific religion JP, that is the point I am trying to make! And if you think I give two craps about Hollweird nonsense then you haven’t been paying attention.

JPTravis
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“But the Japanese atrocities during WWII had nothing to do with a specific religion JP…”

Again, completely and utterly factually inaccurate. During WWII the powers that be in Japan elevated the emperor to Shinto divinity for the express purpose of using that divinity to inspire greater Japanese patriotism and further the war effort. Prior to that, the emperor was not considered divine. So in that sense, Shintoism was used as a tool to justify what the Japanese did.

I’m not attacking Shintoism so much as battling the constant and despicable Hollywood use of false equivalencies. They always gloss over the unpleasant facts about other religions while negatively portraying Christianity, the goal being to claim “all religions are the same.” They are not, and you’d best take that to heart.

whiskeyriver
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What you say is true but you are still missing the point. The Japs did not go to war because of a specific religion, they used a religion to get the people to go along with their expansionist plans. And yes, all religions are the same. They all preach about a higher power, no matter what name you want to use. They all talk about a heaven, an after life, a utopia, no matter what name you want to attach to it. The only difference between true belief and man’s version of it is man’s interpretation of what belief should be. Which is why we have Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, even Muslims and Shinto’s in the world. A man’s interpretation of what God said, not necessarily what God meant.

sifi
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Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. John 14:6

I’m Baptist and all Baptists, I know of, believe the Word of God. I’ll also add that every Baptist Church, I’ve belonged to, do not believe they are the only ones going to Heaven. If they did I would not belong. The only requisite for salvation, according to the Bible is a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. Many are in darkness and I don’t know how God will deal with them. When the Light has been presented and darkness is chosen instead, you’re on shaky ground. The following verse sums it up nicely.

“This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. John 3:19

I don’t want to get into a long debate. I’m just presenting the way I see it.

JPTravis
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I see why you wanted him to listen all the way through. One verse is different. 😉

sifi
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The song is kinda dated. I think it came out in the late 70’s. That one verse really makes it hit home.

JPTravis
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Yeah, the mention of Hare Kirshnas kind of gave away the time period. Remember when they used to be in every airport, and flocking down downtown streets, and bugging the hell out of legitimate businesses by selling roses outside their doors?

sifi
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I was dating a girl when George Harrison came out with My Sweet Lord. She loved that song. We soon broke up.

sifi
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Yep, they even included them in the movie Airplane.

Dave K
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Hear hear WR, I feel exactly the same way and I couldn’t have said it any better. I follow the Ten Commandments which all three major monotheistic religions follow and that’ll have to be good enough.

Organized religion really started to turn me off after all the televangelist scandals over the years. Also, I was a junior deacon in a Baptist church when I was a teenager when the pastor was booted for embezzling. All those clowns are just people with a title reading from the same book that I did.

whiskeyriver
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Thanks Dave, just saying it the way I see it.

SSGRick
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This Pope IS smoking dope or maybe I should say HE IS a SMOKING DOPE!!

Joe Redfield
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I wonder if Harvey Weinstein wishes he were Catholic now?