The hidden assumption underlying his whole diatribe is that Trump is somehow different and better than Hillary. There is no evidence of that. In fact, pick any political position you think Trump holds and I can show you where he said exactly the opposite of what you think he believes. His whole campaign is a mirage, a giant scam to recruit the gullible.
I tell you what I am sick and tired of: Trumpsters blaming me for the mess they created. Sean Hannity is the best example. He's been a shill for Trump since Trump started running, in spite of the millions of conservatives who made it clear they would never vote for the man. Now Hannity says it's immoral not to vote for Trump. No, Sean, you cheap-ass shill, it was immoral to support a man who cheated on every wife he ever had and bragged about it, talked about his penis in a national debate, lies every time he opens his mouth, insults his opponents like a kindergartner, and cheated, lied, and bullied his way through his career as a businessman.
I didn't thumb your post. You of course own the rights to your opinions, but I wouldn't qualify Zo's presentation as a diatribe. That seems like an unnecessary cheap shot. It's disappointing. In any case, it provided a rather honest set of points on not only this election, but those in the past. He never said Trump is perfect, however he maybe looking at levels here and making a decision that Hillary's levels of evil are so egregious that the idea of her winning should be the most detestable to people on the Right. Also looking for a political messiah on earth could be a mistake, for people can disappoint. The alternatives are a crazy communist/socialist, and a ganja adventurer who has no problem using the government to force people to participate in activities no matter the Constitution.
Now, unless I missed it, what do you suggest one on the Right should do? What's the plan? I read disgust for Trump and his supporters, even people with Truth track records like Zo... but where is your solution/plan/alternative? I'm respectfully asking...
Thumb downs don't bother me. Even if you gave it to me it wouldn't bother me.
My solution? My solution is to send a message to the establishment that thinks it owns us. Vote for the down-ticket contenders if you like them. Ignore the presidential ballot or vote for a third party. If they see a large difference between number of votes for senator and number of votes for president, maybe it will worry them.
Hillary is a leftwing, evil, statist, but no different than the last four presidents, really. Trump is something else, an evil, stupid, narcissistic, selfish, immoral ape who doesn't even comprehend how ignorant he is.
And when I was young, I had a belief that when it comes to politics, you want right wingers in elected office because they will respect your material rights, and you want left wingers in judicial positions because they will respect your immaterial rights, like your right to habeus corpus, right to an attorney, etc. Trump just said he wants to try American citizens in Guantanamo... do you really want that guy appointing SC justices? Maybe I was smarter when I was young...
Giving my one vote to anyone that won't have a chance sounds wasteful, but it's a legitimate option. Knowing also this strategy won't work prevents me from getting excited. The Establishment will never get the message peacefully. The TEA Party proved that.
Man! Trump can say some stupid things. Obama was kept in check by our Constitution and courts on several extremes he tried to pull. It will be the same, probably even more so, with Trump because the MSM will keep him exposed. So, I still don't think he would be as bad for America as Hitlary. Trump says stupid things but Hitlary is the real danger here. What she hides would fill volumes and the MSM as well as FBI would look the other way. Had to wait a while for that tint to come back to my rose colored glasses after reading what he said about trying American citizens in Guantanamo. How did he get this far?
Democrats picked him.
Good. That means they're rejecting Clinton. It's a start in the right direction. Unless your wearing a tinfoil hat, that is.
You assume that a Democrat voting for Trump in the primary is a Democrat who won't vote for Hillary in the general. How did that work out for Mitt Romney?
Like I said, I don't wear a tin foil hat.
I thumbed his post. I'm tired of HIS diatribe.
Sorry, JP...but I don't believe for one minute that Trump would pack the Supreme Court with Progressive appointments. So your argument that there's no difference between the two is bullshit. I'm hardly a "Trumpster"...I can't stand the guy. But I learned a long time ago that you have to play the hand you were dealt. He's the nominee, and he gets my vote. I would vote for his fucking DOG before I sat out the election and greased the skids for the most corrupt person to ever run for president.
Then you are the gullible idiot the establishment is counting on. Every four years they give you a liberal against a liberal, and you slobber all over yourself in your eagerness to vote for the one with the R in front of his name. This time, they had a problem because Obama's radical leftwing nonsense had turned the country strongly to the right, making the nomination of someone like John McCain, Mitt Romney, or Jeb Bush impossible, but they rigged the process to nominate a Trojan horse, the most leftwing Republican pretender yet. And here you are, slobbering all over yourself to vote for him. You keep going out every four years and voting for these clowns while your individual liberty is destroyed. At what point do you finally wise up?
Hear Hear!
Play the hand you were dealt. The game is crooked and will be until we the people stand against this gambling with our liberty.
Gee, maybe more silly insults and self indulgent superior smack from you might to the trick?
If you really believe what you're spouting, why so hateful about it or turn to conspiracy theories? Common sense - no! Principled- no! Pride, not principle!
We lost once, Trump won. Why be part of losing it all to Clinton?
Arguing with JP about Trump is a waste of time. I starting to think he is a liberal who has not come out of the closet yet and wants Shillery to win the election. I have seen people who let their dislike for someone override their common sense but it doesn't seem to fit in this case.
And for the millionth time we have a Trumpster shouting "B-b-but he's not Hillary!"
That's pretty much how everyone has gotten elected since Reagan.
Ain't that so
Huh?
I kinda understand your twisted panties, kinda. But here's the question;
On the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November:
-You're going to stay home and pout and not vote
-You're going to vote for an outlier who has no chance of winning
-Or you're going to hold your nose [like me] and vote for the one I hope to God kills the Clinton's 'legacy' once and for all
PS what you all never mention is they have to deal with the House & Senate, that's where the fight has been for 20 years
So, what is it JP? Yeah or Nay, you claim to care about the grands just like I do, they're the ones who are gonna have to deal with this BS...
You staying home and whining or looking out for the grands?
If I sound irritated it's because I have to keep saying the same thing over and over. I don't care which one wins because they are the same person. They are both statist, power-hungry, self-centered, greedy thugs, willing to do anything to defeat personal enemies. Supreme Court? Please. Do I have to list the stupid things Trump has said that make any reasonable man shiver at the thought of him picking SC justices? His sister the abortion lover would make a good justice? We should try American citizens in Guantanamo? He wants to "punish" companies that move? No, they are both exactly the same, which is why Trump was long and early on a Hillary supporter.
" I don’t care which one wins because they are the same person."
And that my friend is what pisses me off. If for a second you think the Clintons care about your kids, grandkids and this country I want to watch you look in the mirror while shaving.
And whoever beats HER, will have to work with the House and Senate and maybe, MAYBE, we'll start getting this country right.
So if Trump is such a loser, he'll be gone in 4 years right? But are you really going to do what you can to get the HildaBitch elected?
That's just not believable, sorry.
If you didn't care you wouldn't be trashing the only guy who can take her out. They are not the same, take your blinders off. You keep repeating proven untruths to people who know better. Go ahead call me a troll again, but you're the one who sounds like the shill for Hillary more and more each day
I trash them both, dufus, because they are both slimeballs.
You're so giddy for Trump to loose your swipes at Hillary appear to be nothing more than a beard.
Hillary's the end of the line, you fool...
That you would hesitate is a shame.
He made some solid points
No friend, hesitate to post here: It's a serious Marvel's Avengers Civil War all up in this joint.
Sad but true.
Have a good Sunday!
^^^ :-( Feel bad
Nothing to feel bad about. I enjoyed your link and watched a few more of his videos. You sparked a good debate. It's not your fault some can't disagree without being disagreeable.
Thanks . This election is important. I want to see all sides with low emotion and high wisdom.
Low emotion high wisdom. In the USA? Have you any precedent in our nation's history to base your hope on? Please know i am not attempting argument nor insult. Still my first response ( granted it was a knee jerk one) was to laugh aloud nearly.
The Bible tells us the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Can the left honestly have wisdom then? I don't believe so.
Pbbbttttt. The 'book' you quote was written and started being edited 100 years after Jesus died . ( do you know why they nailed his feet? Takes a little longer to suffocate), and Mary was a prostitute. right?
Forget the 'Church' said, "Oh Sorry", our bad. She was a good girl.
I believe there is a higher power, this world is not an accident. And I'm also looking for the new Crusaders, which is coming
Not because you cite some book but because it's the right thing to do.
AHEM, fuckem all, let Allah sort it out.
Psalms and Proverbs were written well before the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
Yeah, yeah & the Old Testament was written centuries before Christ was even born. And translated and transliterated how many times? From what I gleen from your posts you're also a student of history, or are we to follow the King James version because his is right? Just so he could get a divorce?
You're confusing hank 8 w James, .
Oh dear. Why?
Did you see what happened above?
I did. Sorry for my part in it. I react and get high in emotion and I guess low in wisdom at times. :)
:-D
You too
I'd call myself a conservative before a republican, and I'm going to vote for Trump. So, according to AlfonZo, I think that makes me a common sense conservative.
He presented some interesting analysis. I spied your recent conversation with another poster, this REALLY is relevant. I really hate the idea of wasting a vote on an imperfect and meaningless alternative because either major political party failed to produce the desired political messiah. It's something to consider.
I've occasionally disagreed with Alfonzo, but I would never have said he was wrong.
The only Russian track & field athlete allowed to compete in the Olympics just got banned from the Olympics before she even got a chance to compete:
Sports officials are just about the only people in the world capable of making government bureaucrats look smart.
The Court of Arbitration for Sport ruled early Monday that long jumper Darya Klishina is eligible to take part in Tuesday's qualifying because she has been based outside of Russia for the last three years and has been subjected to regular drug-testing. I think she's jumping tonight
Also. Reportedly she is lonely.
What happens when your Roomba meets fresh dog poop:
Thanks for this, Kimmy. It doesn't surprise me that it was taken down. Pressure from somewhere...or just FB itself found it "offensive". But HATS OFF to this kid! I couldn't think of a better response if I had a WEEK to think of one! I wonder how old he is...I didn't see his age in the article...
I'm thinking Junior High... She's so vain she thought it was about her.
Great link ty
Apparently they met their quota, since this is dated in 2014...but I'm sure they could always use more help in taking away someone's firearm...
Out of the blue (intended); for those of you like me who live outside the city lights, (and it's freaking dark out here), this is awesome. Something to see
I'm EXTREMELY jealous! Not only are there too many lights here, there always seems to be plenty of clouds, too. I have YET to see a meteor shower. I catch a single every once in a while, but nothing spectacular as the full shower...
I feel your pain, but this is no joke; we drive about 10 minutes NW from here and park in a field cutout (where the farmers refuel and empty the combines), The lawn chairs & cooler are locked and loaded. They're saying 80 to 90 'shooting stars' a minute during the peak, it's something to see.
{And #2 on my bucket list is a trip to WAY UP NORTH Alaska to see the Northern Lights. Just don't ask what #1 is cause I ain't tellin ;) }
Complete and Total arachnicide?
Also: that article lead is promoting sin
That's good, cuz I ain't askin'!
That's another one I've wanted to see since I was a kid...the Northern Lights. Maybe a quick cruise up the coast and back, though...I wouldn't be able to handle the bugs in the summer, and for SURE wouldn't wanna put up with the temperatures during the winter. I watch a couple of shows, like "Life Below Zero", and all I can conclude from them is that these people are NUTS.
Boooo, all dressed down @ 2 a.m.and nowhere to go. Serious overcast here, maybe next time...
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Hesitate to post, but found interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyqLsQZmBMw&index=6&list=WL
The hidden assumption underlying his whole diatribe is that Trump is somehow different and better than Hillary. There is no evidence of that. In fact, pick any political position you think Trump holds and I can show you where he said exactly the opposite of what you think he believes. His whole campaign is a mirage, a giant scam to recruit the gullible.
I tell you what I am sick and tired of: Trumpsters blaming me for the mess they created. Sean Hannity is the best example. He's been a shill for Trump since Trump started running, in spite of the millions of conservatives who made it clear they would never vote for the man. Now Hannity says it's immoral not to vote for Trump. No, Sean, you cheap-ass shill, it was immoral to support a man who cheated on every wife he ever had and bragged about it, talked about his penis in a national debate, lies every time he opens his mouth, insults his opponents like a kindergartner, and cheated, lied, and bullied his way through his career as a businessman.
I didn't thumb your post. You of course own the rights to your opinions, but I wouldn't qualify Zo's presentation as a diatribe. That seems like an unnecessary cheap shot. It's disappointing. In any case, it provided a rather honest set of points on not only this election, but those in the past. He never said Trump is perfect, however he maybe looking at levels here and making a decision that Hillary's levels of evil are so egregious that the idea of her winning should be the most detestable to people on the Right. Also looking for a political messiah on earth could be a mistake, for people can disappoint. The alternatives are a crazy communist/socialist, and a ganja adventurer who has no problem using the government to force people to participate in activities no matter the Constitution.
Now, unless I missed it, what do you suggest one on the Right should do? What's the plan? I read disgust for Trump and his supporters, even people with Truth track records like Zo... but where is your solution/plan/alternative? I'm respectfully asking...
Thumb downs don't bother me. Even if you gave it to me it wouldn't bother me.
My solution? My solution is to send a message to the establishment that thinks it owns us. Vote for the down-ticket contenders if you like them. Ignore the presidential ballot or vote for a third party. If they see a large difference between number of votes for senator and number of votes for president, maybe it will worry them.
Hillary is a leftwing, evil, statist, but no different than the last four presidents, really. Trump is something else, an evil, stupid, narcissistic, selfish, immoral ape who doesn't even comprehend how ignorant he is.
And when I was young, I had a belief that when it comes to politics, you want right wingers in elected office because they will respect your material rights, and you want left wingers in judicial positions because they will respect your immaterial rights, like your right to habeus corpus, right to an attorney, etc. Trump just said he wants to try American citizens in Guantanamo... do you really want that guy appointing SC justices? Maybe I was smarter when I was young...
Giving my one vote to anyone that won't have a chance sounds wasteful, but it's a legitimate option. Knowing also this strategy won't work prevents me from getting excited. The Establishment will never get the message peacefully. The TEA Party proved that.
Man! Trump can say some stupid things. Obama was kept in check by our Constitution and courts on several extremes he tried to pull. It will be the same, probably even more so, with Trump because the MSM will keep him exposed. So, I still don't think he would be as bad for America as Hitlary. Trump says stupid things but Hitlary is the real danger here. What she hides would fill volumes and the MSM as well as FBI would look the other way. Had to wait a while for that tint to come back to my rose colored glasses after reading what he said about trying American citizens in Guantanamo. How did he get this far?
Democrats picked him.
Good. That means they're rejecting Clinton. It's a start in the right direction. Unless your wearing a tinfoil hat, that is.
You assume that a Democrat voting for Trump in the primary is a Democrat who won't vote for Hillary in the general. How did that work out for Mitt Romney?
Like I said, I don't wear a tin foil hat.
I thumbed his post. I'm tired of HIS diatribe.
Sorry, JP...but I don't believe for one minute that Trump would pack the Supreme Court with Progressive appointments. So your argument that there's no difference between the two is bullshit. I'm hardly a "Trumpster"...I can't stand the guy. But I learned a long time ago that you have to play the hand you were dealt. He's the nominee, and he gets my vote. I would vote for his fucking DOG before I sat out the election and greased the skids for the most corrupt person to ever run for president.
Then you are the gullible idiot the establishment is counting on. Every four years they give you a liberal against a liberal, and you slobber all over yourself in your eagerness to vote for the one with the R in front of his name. This time, they had a problem because Obama's radical leftwing nonsense had turned the country strongly to the right, making the nomination of someone like John McCain, Mitt Romney, or Jeb Bush impossible, but they rigged the process to nominate a Trojan horse, the most leftwing Republican pretender yet. And here you are, slobbering all over yourself to vote for him. You keep going out every four years and voting for these clowns while your individual liberty is destroyed. At what point do you finally wise up?
Hear Hear!
Play the hand you were dealt. The game is crooked and will be until we the people stand against this gambling with our liberty.
Gee, maybe more silly insults and self indulgent superior smack from you might to the trick?
If you really believe what you're spouting, why so hateful about it or turn to conspiracy theories? Common sense - no! Principled- no! Pride, not principle!
We lost once, Trump won. Why be part of losing it all to Clinton?
Arguing with JP about Trump is a waste of time. I starting to think he is a liberal who has not come out of the closet yet and wants Shillery to win the election. I have seen people who let their dislike for someone override their common sense but it doesn't seem to fit in this case.
And for the millionth time we have a Trumpster shouting "B-b-but he's not Hillary!"
That's pretty much how everyone has gotten elected since Reagan.
Ain't that so
Huh?
I kinda understand your twisted panties, kinda. But here's the question;
On the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November:
-You're going to stay home and pout and not vote
-You're going to vote for an outlier who has no chance of winning
-Or you're going to hold your nose [like me] and vote for the one I hope to God kills the Clinton's 'legacy' once and for all
PS what you all never mention is they have to deal with the House & Senate, that's where the fight has been for 20 years
So, what is it JP? Yeah or Nay, you claim to care about the grands just like I do, they're the ones who are gonna have to deal with this BS...
You staying home and whining or looking out for the grands?
If I sound irritated it's because I have to keep saying the same thing over and over. I don't care which one wins because they are the same person. They are both statist, power-hungry, self-centered, greedy thugs, willing to do anything to defeat personal enemies. Supreme Court? Please. Do I have to list the stupid things Trump has said that make any reasonable man shiver at the thought of him picking SC justices? His sister the abortion lover would make a good justice? We should try American citizens in Guantanamo? He wants to "punish" companies that move? No, they are both exactly the same, which is why Trump was long and early on a Hillary supporter.
" I don’t care which one wins because they are the same person."
And that my friend is what pisses me off. If for a second you think the Clintons care about your kids, grandkids and this country I want to watch you look in the mirror while shaving.
And whoever beats HER, will have to work with the House and Senate and maybe, MAYBE, we'll start getting this country right.
So if Trump is such a loser, he'll be gone in 4 years right? But are you really going to do what you can to get the HildaBitch elected?
That's just not believable, sorry.
If you didn't care you wouldn't be trashing the only guy who can take her out. They are not the same, take your blinders off. You keep repeating proven untruths to people who know better. Go ahead call me a troll again, but you're the one who sounds like the shill for Hillary more and more each day
I trash them both, dufus, because they are both slimeballs.
You're so giddy for Trump to loose your swipes at Hillary appear to be nothing more than a beard.
Hillary's the end of the line, you fool...
That you would hesitate is a shame.
He made some solid points
No friend, hesitate to post here: It's a serious Marvel's Avengers Civil War all up in this joint.
Sad but true.
Have a good Sunday!
^^^ :-( Feel bad
Nothing to feel bad about. I enjoyed your link and watched a few more of his videos. You sparked a good debate. It's not your fault some can't disagree without being disagreeable.
Thanks . This election is important. I want to see all sides with low emotion and high wisdom.
Low emotion high wisdom. In the USA? Have you any precedent in our nation's history to base your hope on? Please know i am not attempting argument nor insult. Still my first response ( granted it was a knee jerk one) was to laugh aloud nearly.
The Bible tells us the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Can the left honestly have wisdom then? I don't believe so.
Pbbbttttt. The 'book' you quote was written and started being edited 100 years after Jesus died . ( do you know why they nailed his feet? Takes a little longer to suffocate), and Mary was a prostitute. right?
Forget the 'Church' said, "Oh Sorry", our bad. She was a good girl.
I believe there is a higher power, this world is not an accident. And I'm also looking for the new Crusaders, which is coming
Not because you cite some book but because it's the right thing to do.
AHEM, fuckem all, let Allah sort it out.
Psalms and Proverbs were written well before the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
Yeah, yeah & the Old Testament was written centuries before Christ was even born. And translated and transliterated how many times? From what I gleen from your posts you're also a student of history, or are we to follow the King James version because his is right? Just so he could get a divorce?
You're confusing hank 8 w James, .
Oh dear. Why?
Did you see what happened above?
I did. Sorry for my part in it. I react and get high in emotion and I guess low in wisdom at times. :)
:-D
You too
I'd call myself a conservative before a republican, and I'm going to vote for Trump. So, according to AlfonZo, I think that makes me a common sense conservative.
He presented some interesting analysis. I spied your recent conversation with another poster, this REALLY is relevant. I really hate the idea of wasting a vote on an imperfect and meaningless alternative because either major political party failed to produce the desired political messiah. It's something to consider.
I've occasionally disagreed with Alfonzo, but I would never have said he was wrong.
The only Russian track & field athlete allowed to compete in the Olympics just got banned from the Olympics before she even got a chance to compete:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/russian-long-jumper-darya-klishina-banned-for-doping-185055600.html
Sports officials are just about the only people in the world capable of making government bureaucrats look smart.
The Court of Arbitration for Sport ruled early Monday that long jumper Darya Klishina is eligible to take part in Tuesday's qualifying because she has been based outside of Russia for the last three years and has been subjected to regular drug-testing. I think she's jumping tonight
Also. Reportedly she is lonely.
What happens when your Roomba meets fresh dog poop:
https://www.facebook.com/jesse.newton.37/posts/776177951574
http://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com/2016/08/some-sports-you-may-have-missed-at.html
Shameful http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/08/12/egyptian-athlete-booed-for-refusing-to-shake-israeli-athletes-hand-n2204342
The Israeli can walk away holding his head high. He not only beat his opponent, he's the better man.
Notice Facebook deleted their post/account
http://conservativetribune.com/teacher-boy-anti-hillary-shirt/
Thanks for this, Kimmy. It doesn't surprise me that it was taken down. Pressure from somewhere...or just FB itself found it "offensive". But HATS OFF to this kid! I couldn't think of a better response if I had a WEEK to think of one! I wonder how old he is...I didn't see his age in the article...
I'm thinking Junior High... She's so vain she thought it was about her.
Great link ty
Apparently they met their quota, since this is dated in 2014...but I'm sure they could always use more help in taking away someone's firearm...
https://inspira.un.org/psc/UNCAREERS/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/c/UN_CUSTOMIZATIONS.UN_JOB_DETAIL.GBL?Page=UN_JOB_DETAIL&Action=A&JobOpeningId=34627&&utm_content=buffer67ce3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
And nothing will happen...again...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/11/house-probe-central-command-reports-skewed-intel-on-isis-fight.html
Out of the blue (intended); for those of you like me who live outside the city lights, (and it's freaking dark out here), this is awesome. Something to see
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/9/12411218/meteor-shower-jupiter-august-11-thursday-night
I'm EXTREMELY jealous! Not only are there too many lights here, there always seems to be plenty of clouds, too. I have YET to see a meteor shower. I catch a single every once in a while, but nothing spectacular as the full shower...
I feel your pain, but this is no joke; we drive about 10 minutes NW from here and park in a field cutout (where the farmers refuel and empty the combines), The lawn chairs & cooler are locked and loaded. They're saying 80 to 90 'shooting stars' a minute during the peak, it's something to see.
{And #2 on my bucket list is a trip to WAY UP NORTH Alaska to see the Northern Lights. Just don't ask what #1 is cause I ain't tellin ;) }
Complete and Total arachnicide?
Also: that article lead is promoting sin
That's good, cuz I ain't askin'!
That's another one I've wanted to see since I was a kid...the Northern Lights. Maybe a quick cruise up the coast and back, though...I wouldn't be able to handle the bugs in the summer, and for SURE wouldn't wanna put up with the temperatures during the winter. I watch a couple of shows, like "Life Below Zero", and all I can conclude from them is that these people are NUTS.
Boooo, all dressed down @ 2 a.m.and nowhere to go. Serious overcast here, maybe next time...
Bummer...
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mjJUpv3Hyzg/V6jnRUilHkI/AAAAAAAAfNw/uDLnAShBk0krrywnMfCllykUyF1AbVucACLcB/s1600/first-gold-medal-of-the-2016-Olympics.jpg