Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens

Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens. Dan Savage should write a new book and title it ‘My Hypocrisy Knows No Bounds.”

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  • HEY DARK SKID-MARK! You might get lucky, it seems Olivia would not mind letting you watch her kids.

      • All of San Antonio celebrates Cinco de Mayo. White Black, Hispanic, Asian. Its just another excuse for a party. Actually Cinco de Mayo commemorates a battle in a Mexican backwater, and is not much of a big deal in Mexico. I LIKE Cinco de Mayo. As a child I was in a Spanish language play about the holiday and enjoyed it very much. The bottom line, is you dug around and managed to find ONE derogatory article, and that all of a sudden applies to anyone who is not a far left winger. Desperate.

        • You love applying sweeping generalizations to anyone who is not a far Right winger. And I am not a leftist, so by assuming I am, you are doing just that.

          • All of us here know all we need to know about you, Dark Dimbulb. All we want to know now is when you're incarcerated. The general population will take care of the rest.

          • Actually, you know very little about him. He told you something that (whether or not it's even true) you wanted to believe; you took it and ran with it, and let your prejudices run rampant.

            That's one thing I find common to right wing ideology: a high value placed on snap judgments. One of the reasons you guys are so often on the wrong side of history.

  • Studies of the recidivism of child molesters reveal specific patterns of reoffending across victim types and offender characteristics. A study involving mentally disordered sex offenders compared same-sex and opposite-sex child molesters and incest offenders. Results of this five-year follow-up study found that same-sex child molesters had the highest rate of previous sex offenses (53 percent), as well as the highest reconviction rate for sex crimes (30 percent). In comparison, 43 percent of opposite-sex child molesters had prior sex offenses and a reconviction rate for sex crimes of 25 percent, and incest offenders had prior convictions at a rate of 11 percent and a reconviction rate of 6 percent (Sturgeon and Taylor, 1980). Interestingly, the recidivism rate for same-sex child molesters for other crimes against persons was also quite high, with 26 percent having reconvictions for these offenses. Similarly, a number of other studies have found that child molesters have relatively high rates of nonsexual offenses (Quinsey, 1984).

    Several studies have involved follow-up of extra-familial child molesters. One such study (Barbaree and Marshall, 1988) included both official and unofficial measures of recidivism (reconviction, new charge, or unofficial record). Using both types of measures, researchers found that 43 percent of these offenders (convicted of sex offenses involving victims under the age of 16 years) sexually reoffended within a four-year follow-up period. Those who had a subsequent sex offense differed from those who did not by their use of force in the offense, the number of previous sexual assault victims, and their score on a sexual index that included a phallometric assessment (also referred to as plethysmography: a device used to measure sexual arousal (erectile response) to both appropriate (age appropriate and consenting) and deviant sexual stimulus material). In contrast to other studies of child molesters, this study found no difference in recidivism between opposite-sex and same-sex offenders.

    In a more recent study (Rice, Quinsey, and Harris, 1991), extra-familial child molesters were followed for an average of six years. During that time, 31 percent had a reconviction for a second sexual offense. Those who committed subsequent sex offenses were more likely to have been married, have a personality disorder, and have a more serious sex offense history than those who did not recidivate sexually. In addition, recidivists were more likely to have deviant phallometrically measured sexual preferences (Quinsey, Lalumiere, Rice, and Harris, 1995).

    In a study utilizing a 24-year follow-up period, victim differences (e.g., gender of the victim) were not found to be associated with the recidivism (defined as those charged with a subsequent sexual offense) of child molesters. This study of 111 extra-familial child molesters found that the number of prior sex offenses and sexual preoccupation with children were related to sex offense recidivism (Prentky, Knight, and Lee, 1997). However, the authors of this study noted that the finding of no victim differences may have been due to the fact that the offenders in this study had an average of three prior sex offenses before their prison release. Thus, this sample may have had a higher base rate of reoffense than child molesters from the general prison population.

    http://www.csom.org/pubs/recidsexof.html

    • Okay. Still not a child molester. Now, if you have a problem with the subject, stop talking about it.

  • Poppa,

    I know it won't happen because it (the pedophile troll) won't give you its address (which is probably its parents' home), however if it does happen (again doubt it) please film it as a real man beating a pedophile troll to a pulp will be quite diverting in fact, it should be considered an olympic sport.

    • It's not a sport, it's personal.
      My brother and his wife fostered a boy several years ago. They found out that he was being victimized by a man in the neighborhood.
      My brother didn't tell me about it because he knows how I feel about that, instead he contacted the county prosecutor.
      Had I known, they would never have had the chance to prosecute, they would never have found the body. That's the one good thing about the NJ Pine Barrens. It's easy to make things disappear, and nobody tells what they saw.
      This is one subject that I don't play around with, I am deadly serious about my attitude where pedophelia is concerned.

      • Had I known, they would never have had the chance to prosecute, they would never have found the body. That’s the one good thing about the NJ Pine Barrens. It’s easy to make things disappear, and nobody tells what they saw.
        This is one subject that I don’t play around with, I am deadly serious about my attitude where pedophelia is concerned.
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        And you think you're better qualified than professional law enforcement to handle such matters, because......?

        • Because my methods don't allow them a chance to be repeat offenders. Since all the liberal bullshit methods of trying to rehabilitate pedophiles have been massive failures.

          • When it comes to pedophiles, rehabilitation has never worked. There's only one way to fix them.

            Go ahead, My Dear Sweet Olivia. Translate that for him.

          • Ok, listen carefully you fucking moron.
            You knowing downloaded kiddie porn. That is a crime PERIOD!
            Just because you erased it doesn't absolve you of the crime.

          • See, a normal person wouldn't ever put the images on their computer or anything else to begin with. And noting on a computer is ever really delted and gone. Having the images alone is a crime. So you have already offended. The statistics on your probability of recidivism is high because of yoru age, your justification, your lack of remorse. I know you thnkyour an ARTISTE and above all that but the law doesn't see it that way.

          • It is when I deleted it when I found out it is illegal. The law specifically states that it is alright if you destroy it.

          • When you go before the judge and tell him that, he will tell you "ignorance of the law is no excuse".

          • At the time, I didn't know lolicon is illegal, and again, it's still a gray legal area.

          • You admitted to having the stuff on your computer. That's something you did wrong. Then you erased it to hide your crime. If you didn't think you were doing something wrong, you wouldn't have erased it.

        • Because [rofessional law enforcement has its hands tied by people like you, who would rather see a cop beaten, stabbed, shot, or killed rather than let them do their jobs fo PROTECTING and SERVING the general populace. Until something happens to YOU, then all you can do is complain that they aren't doing their jobs, aren't doing them correctly or fully, or fast enough. . . . .

          • Yeah, the laws suck. Cops should have free reign to beat and kill anyone they want.

      • I haven't and will not victimize anyone, so take your silly ass grudge elsewhere.

        • And about half of Texas is wide open space. Ni witnesses, featureless, impossible to search.

  • Not that I remember. Of course, I don't remember him ever calling for the B;ack Panthers to threaten white voters, or instead of demonstrations to go out and "kill some mother F *ckers." But my memory is fading as I age.

  • WOW 400+ comments and I didn't get to put my 2 cents in... shucks. At this point I'm not going to, there is no sense in doing so. Yet this is obviously a heated topic and I understand why it would generate so much discussion. Discussion is always a good thing.

    Who is this TheDarkEricDraven guy though. I've been busy, not around for discussion as much as I would like to be, I've seen him brought up a lot recently though. Troll? Are he and Olivia secret lovers? I'm happy for them if they are. Otherwise, don't fall for the trolls people, trolls are the downfall of all of us, I know first hand about that.

    • Yes, he is a teen age troll who thinks he is the smartest guy in the room. He is also a self admitted pedophile, who claims he will never act on those urges, Umm hmmm. Right. And the moon is made of green cheese.

      • "Self admitted pedophile??" LOL. Please, I think I've actually seen others talking about him in a few posts if that is the case, had no idea what they were talking about though. Can you send a link, I may have to stop commenting to someone like that.

        • it did. It's here somewhere. it is androsexual. And pedophile two boots. it has stated its own innocence with regard to carrying out any of its craven desire. Teenage Trainwreck.

    • I happened to be looking right at the screen when my mail refreshed with your comment. Wow, you nailed the whole thread in seconds with 5 lines. Oh, Dweezle is a lolicon aficionado and you're already up to speed on the rest.

      See^^

      • Lotion aficionado? If you meant lotion aficionado, all you had to say is he/she works for NBC. I'm not a grammar Nazi, quite the opposite. Maybe a lolcion is something I've never heard, it's may be worse actually.

        • A lolicon is someone that enjoys pictures of pre-pubescent girls in sexual situations.

          • So a "lolicon" is someone who enjoys drawn pictures of pre-pubescent girls in sexual situations?? I have to assume this word.. "lolicon".. is a word created because of the modern internet age.

            I'm bamboozled right now. I mean..... wow.... that's..... wow! I don't know what to say. I'm actually happy I don't understand most of the crap that is generated by the internet. It makes me think I'm a good person.

          • I had to look it up, I didn't know what it was either.
            It made me sick to my stomach.

          • Thanks for googling it so the rest of us didn't have to. I almost did so last night, because I didn't actually think Ghost misspelled lotion, I was just pronouncing 'lolicon' as "lotion" with an accent.

            I wish I could have gone on assuming a "lolicon" was someone who worked at NBC and was just really excited when our Dear Leader came around. Now, I know a lolicon, and I wish I didn't. Thanks IHTM..... I still love you though you stupid website.

        • We all do idiot. Its the way the website is set up. If you subscrbe to a thread, they tell you when someone has added a new comment. And of course you know that, or you wouldn't stll be here.

      • I understand, I dated a sequential hermaphrodite once. Well, in reality she was all woman, but went from a smokin' hot 10 when she had makeup on, to looking like a young dude when she didn't. I still miss her though.

          • I called you a hermaphrodite because that was what you said you were. Then I participated in some self deprecation because if you can't make fun of yourself, who can you make fun of?

          • I'm gonna go out of my way to avoid insulting you or offending, for now.

          • Please go forward with the insults and offending. We may both believe in sarcasm, but I don't think we could be friends. It's been a long time since I trolled on left leaning websites, while you're all into trolling on right leaning websites. You'll grow up one day and get over it though. Maybe even get friendly with a woman or a man, depending upon what sex you are, being a hermaphrodite and all.

            I wish you luck though :-)

          • No reason we can't be civil. Why make more enemies then necessary, you know?

          • I've never came to IHTM to make enemies. I've been drawn to this site for the opposite reason actually. I don't agree with everyone here, but even those I don't agree with... civil is usually default (unless me and vodka have been good friends).

            However, you have apparently been trolling lately. I don't know the extent of it, I've been busy. The fact that you have been responding to me within seconds, while I just wanted to say something before going to bed, is more than telling. So hate me or love me, I don't care. I got a job I need to go to tomorrow. Have a good night.... friend.

          • I'm androgyne, actually...Your tone makes me not instantly hate you. Maybe you are one of the better ones, like Alien. Please don't prove me wrong.

  • YOU are the one who is advocating disparate treatment. I favor equally harsh punishment for any such crime.

    I quoted the loathsome Whoopi Goldberg as an exemplar of leftist hypocrisy, as a prominent public figure with a wide media forum who, bizarrely, suddenly took a stand completely at odds with what any liberal or conservative thinker might reasonably think; that one who drugged an underage girl and violated her ought to punished under the law. Instead, she, and a bevy of other Hollywood personalities suddenly decided that Mr Polanski had suffered enough or that she was asking for it all along, or some damn fool thing that a reasonable person of ANY political stripe ought consider disturbing and irrational to the point of lunacy. And don't play coy, it was a major news buzz when it happened. If you never heard about it before, you are woefully uninformed and unqualified to address the topic until you have done some basic research.

  • So I can safely believe that you support different punishments for the same crime , based on your status in life ? If a person who is white says he hates so-n-so , then commits a crime and then is slapped with hate crime punishment , then a black or a muslim or whoever says they hate , say Israel or Jews , then tries to kill as many Jews as possible , well thats ok because they're a minority . Equal punishment for the same crime , is that an evil thought to your kind ?

    If what happened to Channon Christian and Chris Newsom ( look it up ) ever happened to a black or a sodomite there would be civil war in this country . Its scum like you and your kind , that think nothing of slaughtering their unwanted baby , that equally looking at what happened to Channon and Chris as , well its just another crime , boo hoo . Equal punishment for the same crime , an evil thought to you and your kind .

    • So I can safely believe that you support different punishments for the same crime , based on your status in life ? If a person who is white says he hates so-n-so , then commits a crime and then is slapped with hate crime punishment , then a black or a muslim or whoever says they hate , say Israel or Jews , then tries to kill as many Jews as possible , well thats ok because they’re a minority . Equal punishment for the same crime , is that an evil thought to your kind ?
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      I'm afraid you're confused again. Once more: a hate crime is not only a crime against the victim, but a means of terrorizing the minority group the victim is from.

      If a group of black people torture and kill a Jew purely or primarily because they hate Jews, it is indeed a hate crime. If a black man gets into a fight with a Jewish man and ends up killing him, that would probably not be a hate crime, since the murder had little or nothing to do with the victim's religion.

      Tell me: when did you see anyone here say that "it's ok" for a black person to murder a Jew? I know the antiliberal propaganda machine likes to make such claims about liberal views, but, like most of what they say about us, it's a big lie. ;>)

      • So I can safely believe that you do NOT support equal punishment for an equal crime ?

        • Once again: it's not "an equal crime," any more than assault and battery is equal to assault alone.

          Sounds to me as if you think hate crime legislation is about letting minorities off easy. It isn't----it's about considering intent. Just as planning and carrying out a murder in cold blood is a worse offense than accidentally delivering a lethal blow during a fight, it's a worse offense to kill or injure impersonally---because a person happens to be of the wrong race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, religion, etc.

          I don't know about you, but I think the murder of Matthew Shepard, purely because he was gay, was even more egregious than it would have been if he'd been murdered by a jealous significant other after being caught cheating. Did you ever see the movie Schindler's List, when the character Helena Hirsch talks about how horrified she was when Goeth shot a woman who was doing nothing wrong? Schindler responded, "She meant nothing to him. He shot her because she was in the way."

          That was the horror of Nazi antsemitism: the military were free to act on their bigotry any time they pleased, toward any Jew they pleased, and in any brutal manner they pleased. The whole point of hate crime legislation is to deter hate groups and bigots from acting on their prejudices. Do you really think that would be a bad or unnecessary thing?

          • Again the question is --- When a black been charged with a hate crime ?

            Show me the punishment .

          • Two points
            (1) - I stand corrected . You will not hear me that question again , even though I totaaly support --equal punishment for an equal crime .
            (2) - Oblvious isn't going to like this site . Too bad.

            I will do more searching in my home state , as I believe that most here are frustated in the belief that only white people are raccist and white people commit the majority of the hate crimes in this country .

            It doesn't change your post , as I DO appreciate the update and AM corrected . But equal punishment for the same crime , it an idea that most libs hate as it guts down on their voter base .

            The next step in hate crimes--- crimes against the State.

          • It doesn’t change your post , as I DO appreciate the update and AM corrected . But equal punishment for the same crime
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            The point, which you seem to be missing, is that the crime is even more destructive when it targets the victim's social/ethnic group. Just as killing someone is a greater crime when it's premeditated.

          • Not the same. Premeditation covers the plan to attack someone for a specific reason, such as ethnicity. And it is a harsher pusnishement than Murder 2 which is spontaneous, usually in a sudden throe of passion, but was unplanned. OPr manslaughter, where one kills, but uniintentionally. Instead of hate crimes, I feel that "intoxication manslaughter" should be simply murder.

          • If a group gets together, gets liquored up and decides to go rough up someone, anyone, that is premeditation. Someone who downs 6 drinks in an hour and jumps behind the wheel of a car where he then kills someone, that IS premeditation. He knew he was drunk,, he knew he was impaired and went out to drive anyway!

          • Not the same. Premeditation covers the plan to attack someone for a specific reason, such as ethnicity. And it is a harsher pusnishement than Murder 2 which is spontaneous, usually in a sudden throe of passion, but was unplanned. OPr manslaughter, where one kills, but uniintentionally. Instead of hate crimes, I feel that “intoxication manslaughter” should be simply murder.
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            I'm sure you do, especially if treating all homicide cases as murder doesn't affect you or yours personally. But that doesn't necessarily make it just.

            Hate crimes aren't necessarily premeditated, by the way. In fact, we've all read stories about hate crimes in which a gang of racists or homophobes gets liquored up and decides to go rough up someone---anyone----who happens to be of the target group. The killing or torture or battery is unplanned, but the hatred is certainly premeditated.

          • If you're only a little confused, that puts you way ahead of My Dear Sweet Olivia and her fantasy lover, the Dark Meathead.

    • I read that article, did you post the link here to that news story? I think it was right around the time the judge was dismissed and all his cases are being re-opened? This case is one of them.

      Horrifying, absolute evil happened to them. I just hope their murders are kept where they belong, behind bars.

        • Ah, yes-----this story is extremely popular with far right wingers and/or racists. I've seen it advanced many, many times in arguments against hate crime legislation. Thanks a lot for directing me to a racist site----that website was so nasty that I felt like I needed to take a bath after consulting it.

          First, I agree----it was a horrible, horrible thing those men did to that couple, and they deserved the heaviest punishment possible. (Although, bleeding heart liberal that I am, I don't believe in the death penalty.) But, as vicious and ugly as it was, it didn't involve terrorizing a minority group, or in oppressing white people in general.

          In no way does that mean that I think it's less horrible, by the way. The ringleader received a death sentence, and his brother a life sentence without parole, so it seems unlikely that punishment would have been any more severe if it had qualified as a hate crime under existing law.

          • Tell the the truth to power Olivvya my lady! Some people are more equal than others. That is why they deserver more equal protection under the law. That is why they need the more due process than the racist whitey. Tell them the truth. That it is racist and hate mongering to expect one set of laws for everybody. And we must punish the emotions that are hateful! Hate is a crime! We must stop it in its tracks. I say we must also punish what causes the hate. Thought! We must have thought crime laws!

            BTW . . . do you love me?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr6Qgzw5nbU

        • Ah yes, I remember that site....

          I navigated around it for a little while the first time, and ended up reading a story that was sooo freaky I had a hard time sleeping for a few nights.

          Its a good site, alot of what is there wont make news the way the Trayvon Martin case has.

    • People like you should die for the good of the rest of the world. Not one of the retarded things you said even deserves a response.

      • So you now have murderous thoughts just as you accused someone else of having . Aren't you a special boy !!!

        • I'm not going to murder anyone. I just think the world would be better off.

          • You're young yet. We'll see in the next 40 years or so how many children you molest, or murders you commit.

          • I think you WANT me to, just to prove yourself right. Why not say "I'm glad you see that sex with children is horrible" instead of "YOU'RE GONNA TOTALLY MOLEST SOMEONE MIGHT AS WELL GET IT OVER WITH".

            I will never hurt a child. End of discussion.

          • If a white person wishes his non-white neighbor dead , believe me , no one is clapping their hands . Telling someone , I wish you were dead , for the good of the world , well to your kind , they're clapping their hands . How was it put --- it depends on their intent .

            Remember , the only thing that evil people need to succeed is for good people to do nothing .

      • Animals such as yourself should be fed to the criminal justice system housing occupants.

  • HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Show me ONE case where a white persn's n\murder has been considered a hate crime?
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    Here you go: Landmark Anti-Gay Hate Crime, Decade Later - CBS News
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    And in the US show me ONE case where a Christian was attacked and the crime had a hate crime designation attached!

    The point of hate crimes is generally to protect a minority group, Rose. Hate crimes are a bit like terrorist acts: they intimidate the minority group that's targeted. Remember the lynchings that occurred during the Jim Crow era? Those were designed not just to kill someone, but also to frighten and oppress all black Americans. For the same reason, the brutal torture and murder of Matthew Shepard was intimidating to another minority group, gay people.

    While it's just as heinous to torture and kill someone solely for being Christian, there's little danger that such an act would intimidate or oppress ALL Christians, because Christians are not a minority in this country-----not in terms of numbers, wealth or political clout. What's more, the vast majority of legislators in Washington are also Christians, so it's very unlikely that they would be oppressed or persecuted with the tacit consent of the government.

    • And if you read my response, I remove gays from that category, since pretty much hate crimes started with gay assaults and spread to minorities. A white Christian male attacked is far less likly to get a hate crime appelation. And since all violent crme has its basis in hate, it is still the same thing. No need for a special category. There is usually a range of punishment for such crimes. Let the punishment fit the crime.

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