Sean Penn Engaged in Shouting Match With Former Co-Star in Airport. He said, ‘You are a pig!’ So I said, ‘And you are a communist [bleep]hole! Is it great to live the way you do as a communist?’ We think Communist [bleep]hole fits perfectly, except that Sean doesn’t live like a communist [bleep]hole, he lives more like a bourgeoisie [bleep]hole who wants everyone else to live like a proletariat.
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Sean is still living the high life from "Fast Times at Ridgemont High"...He needs to stop rolling his own and get into some kind of program..perhaps the Chinese Space Program?
"Fast Times" was Penn's peak. It's been downhill ever since.
I liked "Bad Boy's", but that is it for him. Not the Marin Lawrence/Will Smith one either.
All animals are created equal , but some are more equal than others.
Someone read "Animal Farm".
I'm so sick of these fucking liberals in Hollyweird. I wish to hell Penn would leave the country and forget the way back. The bastard is living large because of capitalism, while he publicly decries it and promotes socialist/communist bullshit. Major props to Maria Conchita Alonso for calling Penn out in a public setting.
My father fought in the white army, against the bolsheviks in the Russian civil war. My mother was sent to Siberia, with her parents, when she was 14 - for the high crime of being the daughter of landowners (not to a gulag - to a run-down one-room shack on the other side of the Urals). So Ive been privy to some first-hand knowledge.
Most of the avid communists were petty bourgeois bleepholes, children of wealthy or well-off parents who shielded their kids from real life very well. Twice my father shared jail-cells with people who had previously arrested him for the high crime of having been born near the Caucasus mountains. Their crime was apparenty outliving their usefulness. Ten thousand people can tell Penn this will happen to him too. And if it does, he'll be as surprised about it as all the rest of them were, in whatever country.
What was it, 7 million died during the counter revolution either due to the fighting, disease, or starvation. Yet the text books will tell you that the Russian Revolution was almost bloodless.
makes you wonder what kind of tool wrote those textbooks.
One was a guy named Adam Ulam from Harvard. He was actually okay. He wrote his books years ago. The modern books are awful. I've seen what my kids had to read.
Andre Thanks for the fascinating story about your family..Too bad more people don't understand what really happened after the revolution.
Who keeps down thumbing Andre's posts? Someone who cannot grapso the reality of COmmunism? How very sad! Ignore them, Andre. We've got your back.
Oooh, I have a secret admirer! How exciting!
But seriously - a message to this person: I also have a post on the Whoopi thread, and a couple on the candidate match game thread that you missed. Come on! Get on the stick!
It happens to all of us, A serial thumber-downer who can't respond with logic, facts or common sense, so they do they only thing they can as liberals, click on the thumbs down icon.....and pout....
One exception. Oblivia needs and auto thumbs down.
Actually, I use the thumbs up or down as a mark showing that I already read that post. What am I gonna do, thumb Olivia up?
I was gonna say that, but I hate beating up the disabled all the time. Actually with Olivia, we should get a "Three fer" for each of her posts, one thumbs down and three show up, it would close the comment faster or even better, an "Olivia-destruction device", destroys the comment and sends a rude response automatically and on the thread there is nothing but a hole with smoke where the comment use to be.
Actually, I'd like to hear more of your family history, Andre. I have much more trust for somebody's opinion when they have either been there, or had friends and family involved.
The college professors that studied it out of books written by communist theorists can kiss my ass.
I'm not sure how that number is figured. There was nowhere near that amount of fighters, total.
It probably does include casualties of many events that were taking place at the time - WW1, famines, and purges of revolutionaries by the Czar. The famines were already taking place independently of revolutionary activity and preceded Russia's entry into WW1.
Technically, the Russian Revolution was almost bloodless (but it depends on your limitations of the definition of "revolution"). The Russian civil war, and Communitst "ruling" like communists, not so much.
That's the thing about communist revolutions -- after the revolution stops, the killing gets going at high speed.
Well, Lenin himself said that bolsheviks have to be willing to kill 90% of the population in order to establish communism.
You're right, of course, about the number of fighters, but as you know there was terrible famine and disease during and after the civil war. From what I recall about 500,000 died in combat. My point about the 1917 revolution being cited as bloodless is that it is farcical as the counter revolution was so bloody and the collateral damage so great. In other words, for the Bolsheviks to ultimately prevail, millions died.
"My point about the 1917 revolution being cited as bloodless is that it is farcical as the counter revolution was so bloody and the collateral damage so great. In other words, for the Bolsheviks to ultimately prevail, millions died."
I didn't mean to gloss over that - it's a spot-on point. But when dealing with the select-your-reality crowd, they very carefully separate all those details out. It's like the claims that Stalin didn't really have anywhere near millions executed. You see, technically, when someone died in a gulag mining tungsten with their bare hands and insufficient clothing for the Siberian winter, that technically was not caused by Stalin you see. And if one of Stalin's underlings signed the execution order, well, that's not on Uncle Joe either.
So next thing you know, Stalin was really a swell guy who maybe, at most, killed 300,000 people. Just a peach of a fellow.
Before the revisionists took over, I was taught that Stalin's body count was 25M plus another 25M killed during The Great Patriotic War. When I was there virtually all mention of Stalin was erased. Even the Soviets wanted to forget him.
I liked what Al Haig said about Moscow a few years back: "On every street, you can see new Mercedes with platinum blonde in the passenger seat. It's just like LA, only there are no communists."
On a similar note, my father-in-law spent years in the Gulag for being in the army that invaded Berlin -- Stalin was worried that they might have been exposed to ideas, and shipped nearly all of them out. I never met him -- the socialist 'free' medical system took care of that. I suppose that coming from a landowner family that had money pre-revolution didn't help. He became a priest after he got out -- not a lot of job openings for people that survived the gulags.
perlcat:"my father-in-law spent years in the Gulag ... He became a priest after he got out"
That's interesting that he became a priest after getting out of a Gulag. A lot of men would have lost their faiths. And I don't sit in judgment of those who do lose their faiths after such trials. I wonder if my faith would be strong enough to withstand such a trial. A lot of men who returned to the United States after World War II went into monasteries. They had seen horrible things and were said to have wanted to live in peace and quiet the rest of their lives.
"Visit me not, O my loving Lord - if it be not wrong so to pray - visit me not with those trying visitations which saints only can bear.... Still I leave all in Thy hands, my dear Savior - I bargain for nothing - only, if Thou shalt bring heavier trials on me, give me more grace."
-Blessed John Henry Newman (1801-1890)
Your father-in-law was lucky to have gotten out.
That sounds pretty much like Stalin - paranoid and thoroughly insane. My father got captured by the Germans in the Berlin invasion. He spent a couple of months in the German POW camp. He became an MP with the UK occupation army after he got freed, and they kept him from being "re-patriated" back to Russia- a euphemism for "sent to the wrong end of a firing squad" for having been captured.
It seems that either with some shortages of ammo, or if the guy had already been in Russian jails, they surrendered to the Germans, figuring that a German POW camp couldn't be that much worse than going back to Russia. So Stalin's "solution" was to execute anyone who was captured.
My mother's family did not have money. They had land. They lived in the Ukraine, which is pretty much the equivalent of Kansas, except with more wolves and a lot less tornadoes. My ancestors on her side were slaves, freed in 1861 (or so) by Alexander II (who was assassinated by a petty bourgeois revolutionary). Some of the slaves received land grants, and became known as "kulaks" (Russian for "fists", as in tight-fisted or cheap, a derogator term given them by the revolutionary proletariats). BTW, I'm still waiting for my reparations.
Your family history is fascinating, Andre. I was a Russian/Soviet Studies major. Useless degree in the real world but I loved it. I spent three months in the USSR in 1983. That was during the terminal head cold of Yuri Andropov.
Well, then there's my drunken (yeah, yeah, I know - that's redundant when talking about Russians) great-grandfather. At 18, he participated in a raid on a nearby Cirkassian (relatives of the Persians) village. Part of the loot was a 16-year old girl. After divvying up the loot, they drew straws for the girl, and my great-grandfather got her. That was a Saturday night. Sunday morning, he took her to church, baptized her (they're Moslems), and married her. She's my great-grandmother.
Wow! Great story.
It's always people who actually know about communism from a first hand basis that get it. It's those who believe their professor who buy into the communist BS. It is always folks from behind the "Iron Curtain", or from South American or Asian marxist nations that warn us & are asking "WTF?"when it comes to supporting Obama & people like him.
That's because they have the New and Improved Communism 6.5.8 handbook. Subtitled.."This Time It'll Work"
She is still giving Pac Man a hard time.
Maria Conchita Alonso is 1 of the few entertainers who gets it, at least when the subject is communism. Born in Cuba, raised in Venezuela, she knows what socialism/communism is, her family has fled it, she get's it.
As for Penn, he is the product of a politically active family. His old man Leo Penn was an actor. He was a big supporter of the old Hollywood unions, & refused to accuse others to the House Un-American Activities Committee. He was blacklisted as a result. So Sean Penn running around having a political chip on his shoulder & acting as he does is no shock. But he is a wealthy Hollywood leftist, & he knows that socialism is for people like you, but not for him. A classic do as I say, not as I do guy, & since he's an important A-Lister, why should'nt he feel that way?
Maria, this dope is not a real communist but what we call a "limosine communist." He goes around singing the praises (and kissing the asses) of people like Chavez and Castro but then goes home to his mansion in Malibu. He is a lousy, stinking phony.
She is correct in that he is an asshole.
"He is a lousy, stinking phony."
As are all of the communist leaders they have such a hardon for. Not a one of them would ever dream of subjecting their own precious person to the hardship and deprivation they so casually inflict upon their nation.