Accidental Gun Deaths and Firearm-Related Homicides at an All-Time Low

Gun Deaths and Firearm-Related Homicides at an All-Time Low. Contrary to the the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence crazies, an armed populace is a safe populace.

This post was last modified on January 26, 2021

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  • I'm getting the wife a new handgun. A Baretta 9mm NANO. It will handle HydraShock ammo too. Sweet. She can keep it in her fanny pack when we are out and about.

    • My lady just recently bought a Sig Sauer 9mm. It's kind of picky about it's ammo, but whatever it won't eat, we can feed to my Glock 17. It'll eat anything.

      • I am so sorry, that was an Up not down, i even clicked on the little green hand! I just did the same thing on another thread to Mdlion. Neither of you I've ever downed before. My bad, I'm sorry. I am going to throw this tablet out the window!
        Or use it as a pigeon and shoot it with my husbands taurus, 40 cal.

        • It's ok, Babydoll. It took me a long time before I got comfortable doing things online with my Droid X. Give it time, they can get really frustrating. And I can handle a thumb down without getting upset.

          • Thank you for understanding, RHG. I was getting really fustrated last night. After I hit Bonfire's post, I had to log off and put it up for the night. Course I can laugh about it today, I suppose using it as target practice is a bit premature :)

          • I have found more than a few cellphones on the side of highways I was working on, with damage quite obviously caused by throwing them out the window at speed. The thought has crossed my mind a few times too.

          • I actually left one on top of my patrol car by accident, As I got on the freeway I saw a bright flash behind me on the roadway....was kinda cool....I didn't know they would splode if they hit the pavement just right.

          • Probably the lithium battery. Those things can get scary in an impact, like crashing a Volt.

          • Just Imagine how big the battery is in a dolt, I mean a Volt.....If my little cell phone battery went boom, I imagine the warnings are correct and a Volt battery would be a BIG BADA BOOM....

          • I carry a SIG 40 at work, use to carry a smaller Sig 40 off duty, Bought a Rock Island 45 to carry off duty now. I do like the stopping power of that thing...

  • Wait till Olivia sees this, she was bitching about "Wyatt Earp wannabees who shoot them selves in the foot". Guess she doesn't know her ass from a gun barrel. I tell people all the time, get a gun, learn how to use it. Its the only surefire crime stopper beside having a cop on your front porch. Unless of course you are Olivia, then you just argue, whine, and debate the criminal till he shoots himself because he can't stand listening to her anymore.

    • Its the only surefire crime stopper beside having a cop on your front porch.

      We have a Deputy Sheriff living on our block (a cul-de-sac). They keep their patrol cars with them, so it's parked in his yard whenever he's home. In theory, it's great, but he works night shift, so it hasn't helped because we've had vehicle break-ins and 3 houses broken into, including the cars across the street from him and the house of the lady next door to him! I'll be satisfied having my pistol loaded and next to my bed, thank you.

      • I was being a smartass, there ain't enough cops to be on everyone's front porch, that's why I am a big gun fan, buy it learn how to use it, and keep it handy. I never leave home without one.

          • And I am one of hose cops that are minutes away..Too damn much crime, too few police, too damn many criminal hugging attorney's, no jail space...We are screwed...

          • I'm not blaming the cops at all, just so you know. I understand they can't be within seconds of me at all times. I'm just agreeing that people have to be able to take care of themselves.

          • I know that I am just bitching cause there is never enough of us anymore...With the screwed up courts and prisons in Kalifornia, criminals just walk away and the victims are screwed big time...I wish this was the old west..Back then you could hang em or shoot em, and they never committed a crime again....

      • Love that movie, when Ted Striker does in the Old Lady, the Hindu guy and the Japanese soldier just by talking to them. :)

        Wait till Olivia hears about this, the shit's gonna hit the fan.....

        Nervous?
        Yes..
        First Time?
        No I have been nervous before....

        Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue...

  • The Nazi (National Socialists) party of the 30s ran on a platform of:

    1. National health care run by the government.

    2. Removing guns from private hands.

    3. Blaming the rich Jews (then any Jew) for all the woes of the nation.

    4. Centralizing control of government power to a small few.

    See any similarities to today's current democrat party?

    On another note, the graph would be even more impressive if it showed the increase in the number of guns sold/held as well. The graph assumes a constant level/number of guns. If offset for the number of guns those trend lines would be almost straight down.

    • If you want to call Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, Boxer, Wassermann-Schultz, Feinstein, Durban, & the rest of the hardline progressive Dems "national/nationalized socialists", I would'nt complain. If the shoe fits...

  • To control a populace the first thing that the "leaders" have to do, is disarm the people. That is exactly what gun control is about. Check every nation that has "outlawed" gun ownership. The crime rate sky rocketed, including those with a gun.

  • The only real answer to this dilemma is to ban motor vehicles. If we can do this in the next hour or so, I won't have to carry my ass into work (like I do everyday rain, snow, sleet, or shine) so lazy people can have a government teat.

  • Not to worry, I'm sure Holder and "Dear Leader" have another "Under the Radar" scheme to blame gun ownership on any assortment of manufactured crisis's.

  • OMG! ANOTHER reason to outlaw the evil internal combustion engine! Ban cars* now, they're more dangerous than guns! It's for the children!

    *Except for the Chevy Volt, which all patriotic Americans should all buy but not try to drive.

      • Jim Stewart:"ban children"

        Don't give the enviro-libs secretly supportive of Chinese child policies any ideas.

          • "It would at least be nice to have a few “child-free” areas."

            Totally agree, let's start with making brothels child-free areas.

          • I'll bet that if airlines offered child free flights, they could charge a premium and nobody would complain!

          • I love kids, but there ARE times that I'd rather not have them around, without having to resort to going to a bar.

    • BS! Not even Dems give a sh!t about American cars. If they did, you would never see a foreign car brand with an Obama sticker on it. But they were all for the bailouts of GM & Chrystler.

  • A few things...

    Almost all gun cotrol laws are UNCONSTITUTIONAL

    Almost all gun cotrol advocates are liars & have no concept of what the 2nd Amendment means, & they are a threat to our republic.

    More guns = less crime. Criminals want nothing to do with anyone who can fight back, let alone kill them.

    • I do have to disagree slightly. All rights are tempered with laws preventing their irresponsible or dangerous use. Freedom of religion stops well before human sacrifice, freedom of the press and speech stop with libel and slander. There is certainly nothing =inherently= inimical in legislation well-crafted to keep firearms out of the hands of those who would abuse or misuse them. We are fond of saying, after all, that rights entail responsibilities; I would suggest that the one rises in proportion to the other. A newspaper has (or at least they =had=) a high ethical standard guarding their responsibility not to print libel, which can injure only a person's reputation and character.

      How great a responsibility should guard the right to keep and bear the power to inflict grievous injury and death?

      I think I've said this before here, including the disclaimer (and apology) that I live in Mass. and maybe have a different view ingrained. But I don't have a problem - IN THEORY - with the idea that a person should be required to take some practical training in firearm handling and safety (or at least demonstrate) before exercising the right to keep and bear. I say "in theory" because I also understand that in the current political climate, any such requirement will either be, or at least invite, further and more restrictive licensing and registration.

      Case in point: buddy of mine was FD for many years here in Mass. Many years ago, I believe, he got called to an "incident" where a guy out in the woods beyond Boston had just put a hole in the wall with a shotgun. Asked why, he allegedly replied, "I didn't know any other way to get the shell out." Exaggeration? Urban legend? Maybe. Plausible? You bet your sweet donkey.

      All that said: Yes, I absolutely believe the above graph and its implications for carry. (I'm not sure what it says about cars, though.) I am NRA, and a huge fan of the "Armed Citizen" column. Regarding lawful firearm ownership and carry, open or concealed, I absolutely agree that more is better, less is worse. But - too often the screwballs who never should get their hands even on a slingshot get them on 9mm hardware and kill somebody, or a bunch of somebodies, and we all get the spotlight. I think the NRA, or local gun right/gun club bodies should take the initiative and start an aggressive campaign of self-monitoring - not sure how - not so much to screen out screwballs but to try and ensure a minimum level of competence and safety. If we do it ourselves, it will help keep government noses out.

      Another case in point: some years back now, the Coast Guard initiated a training standard called STCW (Standards for Training, Certification, and Watchstanding, I think) which affected everyone in the maritime trades, including a number who before had marginal CG oversight. Among these were the Alaska fishermen. (BTW I got this story from a shipmate who had been in that.) Anyway, you had hundreds of these grizzly old sea dogs angrily denouncing government busybodies and they'd been fishing the Bering Sea since it was a river and aint nobody from Washintun could learn em nothin new abut the sea. They griped and howled, and ultimately took all the required classes, and ya know what? The casualty rate dropped like Clinton's pants.

      Draw your own conclusions....

      • Good post, PsychoDad. Agree comepletly. I took it upon myself to get professional training last year after waisting ammo at the range for several years w/my handguns. I did this mainly to shoot better, but they taught us so much more in this class besides shooting--gun handling, safety, gun laws, personal defense and tactics, etc. I would highly recommend this type of training to any firearm owner who truly wants to be safe and proficient in their arms, though as you say, if it was mandated it leads to more restrictive gun regs and we have far too many now. As to the permit process that danybhoy and you spoke of, here's an example: I took State/ LE mandated 16 hour class to apply for a Kalif. CCW permit. Did fine on the class and set up the 1st appointment w/a Sherriffs Detective that I could get in March this year. I applied 8 mos. ago, but I guess I'm lucky--the wait now is 12-13 months. If I'm granted the permit it will have cost me approx. $500 for a 2 year permit. NV-$110/5 yrs. Utah-$65/5 yrs. Florida-$117/7 yrs. I got these last 3 with a 1 day classroom/range qualifying course in NV last year. Don't even think about getting one in NY and a few other States.

        • Wow. The minimum for Mass. is an approved (ie NRA) Home Firearms Safety Course, 4 hours, cost about a hundred bucks, which does not even include actual shooting. I took the deluxe course, which was a full day with range time. You get an appointment with the firearms office at the PD, it took a few months but only because the regular man in there was out injured and it took some time to get a new man up to speed. Other than that it was pretty routine, only thing that sucked was that =this town= the Police Chief does not issue CC to first time permits. O and a hundred for 5 years .

          • My NV, Utah, and Florida permits came in approx 2 months. If I'm granted a Kalif. permit, including the backlog of applicants, interview, paper processing, etc. it will have taken 1 year from the time I did my approved LEO course.

          • I'm so glad I moved out of NJ! I had a hard time getting a firearms purchase license! A CCP would require a colonoscopy and hysterectomy!
            Florida is so much more reasonable.

          • You guys want to have some fun? Try getting your legally owned and registered gun returned by the Sheriff after somebody uses it to commit suicide in California. It took 6 months.

          • They kept saying that they had to finish their investigation. But when I got the gun back, it didn't seem to have been investigated at all. It wasn't even cleaned. And I had to submit papers to the FBI to be cleared to be able to accept my own legally owned gun back.

          • Yeah, I caught the part about it being in Texas, Robert. You know that wouldn't happen in California.

            You know, I understand that my gun should have been checked over to be sure of who fired it last, since the last time it was fired a life was taken. I WANTED them to investigate the situation closely, because that would clear my name completely. But six months? And I need FBI permission to have my own gun returned? Nonsense!

          • My dad found a .45 in the dumpster behind the store he managed. He reported it, and the responding officer merely took down the serial no. and told my dad to keep the pistol while the investigation was underway. No owner was ever found, and my Dad still has the pistol.

            This happened back in the 80's, and in Texas.

          • Glad I live in a state where nobody cares. You can pack a pistol on your hip, keep it on the dashboard of you car or pickup, as long as it is plain sight you are good to go.

            The only place it is illegal to carry, conceal permit or not, is in anyplace that serves alcohol. Most of us don't pay any attention to the law, neither does law enforcement unless you do something stupid, then it's off to jail for you.

          • Whiskey, I used to work as a bouncer in a bar in San Antonio back in the 80's. I don't think there was one guy that wasn't packing in that place. We just had to be careful how we handled any scuffles! There were only 2 of us doing crowd control, me and a 6'10" 300 lb off duity Texas Railroad Comission cop. We really didn't have much trouble in that place.

          • I never worked as a bouncer, in my younger days I was more concerned about occupying a barstool, but I always noticed that the more protection everyone carried the calmer the beer joint stayed.

            One funny story I just remembered. We were at a well known biker bar having a few in rememberance of a friend who had crashed when an out of towner got into it with the barmaid. Apparently a couple of local boys stepped in and the next thing I heard was "GUN!" and this fool was looking at about 50 pistols pointed in his direction. Needless to say he decided to light his ride up and get out of town. Didn't even finish his beer, the wuss.

          • Lucky you-we just got a new Sheriff almost 2 yrs. ago who is very pro 2nd Amendment and has been issuing permits like crazy. The previous two Sheriffs issued approx. 50 in about 10 years (mostly to cronies). Last I heard (several months ago) about 1000 had been issued already, so with my training and other state permits, I feel my chances are very good. "Personal Defense" is all you need now for an excuse to get one. They use to have a requirement that you see a shrink for an hour before they would consider you for a permit, but NRA got that repealed, Thank God.

      • I said almost all of them. Many local/state laws make the lawful purchase & getting a permit to carry so expensive & such a pain in the ass that they work as a ban of sorts. It should be easy for law abiding citizens to purchase & carry them. But some make it so hard to exercise your 2nd Amendment rights that some just give them up, & that's wrong. There are a few restrictions that can be rationalized, but not to the extent that tyrants like Bloomberg do in NYC.

        • Agree there. Mass. isn't actually that bad, but too much is at the whim of local police chiefs. Getting a long gun permit is pretty routine. A bit more paperwork for handgun, but still pretty routine -again depending- only the full "Concealed Carry" permit is a bit stingy.

          Of course we have to keep them locked up in the home, unloaded, so they are virtually worthless for self defense unless you a) practice really hard at unlocking and loading (ha!) in the dark or 2) break the law and keep an unsecured firearm with ammo handy. Here, putting the "NRA" sticker on your window is a bloody invitation, so I don't even bother (I =do= have the "Come And Take It!" flag on the porch though!), and "Protected by Smith & Wesson" is a punch line.

          I'm still planning to escape over the border into Switz - I mean New Hampshire.

  • Great news for everyone except haters of our constitution. Now what card can they pull out of their sleeve for use in eroding the second amendment?

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