Penn State covered up Sandusky, was their ClimateGate investigation of Michael Mann more reliable? “We saw what the university administration was willing to do to cover up heinous crimes, and even let them continue, rather than expose them. Should we suppose, in light of what we now know, they would do any less to hide academic and scientific misconduct, with so much at stake?” As Led Zeppelin said, “Mmmmm, an’ it makes me wonder…”
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I agree PSU has been caught covering up junk science and the despicable act of child molestation. PSU can hire all the spin masters that it can. The damage has been done. Now let the consequences of the cover ups begin. Start writing checks board of trustees the ones for the junk science and false misleading research and for covering up Sandusky's perversion.
Guys, why do you even give "John" (isn't that the slang for toilet?) the time of day. Stop even acknowledging "john" exists. I suggest that Mr. or Mrs. John better known as "It" resides in a campaign HQ in Chicago and is paid to generate the BS "it" does just to pull your chain and waste your time and energy. Case in point? I draw your attention to the following msg from the Tea Party as received earlier today:
"Dear Patriot,
"There is something very pervasive happening in our movement and you need to help us stop it! The left is paying people to infiltrate our message boards, Facebook groups, and other social venues. They aren't being sent to argue for liberal policies they are trying to disenfranchise us by pretending to be one of us and discourage our action by being whiny losers. It's starting to work with some conservative activists and we need to give our friends falling for this ploy, a swift kick in the rear! "
That kick needs to be delivered swiftly and hard....not to "It" but rather to ourselves. We are being F'd with.
"Guys, why do you even give 'John' (isn’t that the slang for toilet?) the time of day. Stop even acknowledging 'john' exists."
Exactly. I think we should just vote John down without actually responding to the posts. By actually responding and posting anything even as minimalistic as something like "TD...MO" we give this weirdo an opening to post more drivel.
we give this weirdo an opening to post more drivel.
He already has an opening from which he posts drivel, it's the same opening that his head nests in 24-7.
No, because he has the right to come here, post stupid sh!t someone else pounded into his low milage grey matter, & be called a dumbass for doing so.
Also, by looking at his dumb posts, you get an idea about what you are up against. When someone said "the meak shall inherit the earth", they were right. What they did'nt tell you is that the assholes would be there to contest the will. That's where idiots like "john" come in.
Yes, John has the right to come here and post. But we are also free to ignore those posts. And it seems to me that IT would be much more productive and efficient to just give John a thumbs down and not post anything because John doesn't learn anything.
If you respond negatively, John will say that this is confirmation that "corporate greed" is everywhere and/or that you obviously support "corporate greed". If you respond in a sarcastic manner that something must be "corporate greed", then John will say that you are finally learning the truth. If you try to get John to define "corporate greed", you will get nothing...or John will post that you must be a supporter of "corporate greed".
And, yes, if you just give John a thumbs down, John will just assume that you support "corporate greed". However, if you just give John a thumbs down, you will have saved time and energy by otherwise ignoring a person who is becoming more and more likely to be either just a troll or completely batshit crazy.
TD,............MO. He has a right to speak, I have a right to ignore him.
So you think I'm being PAID to discredit you? Now who's the conspiracy theorist?
Plus I'm a Ron Paul supporter. Both Obama and Romney are corporate sellouts corrupted by greed.
We're dealing with a troll here, persistent but dumb. Ignore him and he'll go away, simple as that.
If it's trolling to know the truth behind Corporate Greed, then I guess so.
You don't know squat about anything. Go peddle your crap elsewhere.
TD
MO
I fart in your general direction!
Ron Paul dropped out of the race, who don't you join him and drop out of IHTM...TD MO
You'd miss me the most as 90% of your posts are TD MOs
Just like we miss your mother, Obliviousidiot.
NOT AT ALL!!!
You'd think they'd provide him with better scripts.
And just who do you *think* you have discredited? You don't even understand basic definitions.
I can't believe something like this can happen in 21st America. The entire administration should be put under close investigation if it hasn't already.
Now I'm starting to wonder if their academic research publications are fraudulent...
John may have to take a cry break:
mhttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/15/paul-bid-to-be-nominated-for-gop-president-ends/?test=latestnewsay
Looks like your hero quit, even he appears to be smarter than you when it comes to fighting a battle...Maybe he quit because of CORPORATE GREED! hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I jumped on this confluence of scandals shortly after the Sandusky scandal broke: This really is Penn State. As Penn State hires PR experts to salvage its reputation over coming years, we need to remember that one mistake is an exception, two identical coverups is a characteristic. Penn State is a cesspool.
Communication breakdown is always the same
I would bet large sums that any academic misconduct or outright falsification in the AGW projects perpetrated by the fraudster Mann was ignored.
I feel badly for anyone that has to go into the job market with PSU on his resume this year. Talk about stigma.
As if there is a job market while Corporate Greed is in charge...
Little boy, your playing with adults again and we think your stooooopid. Remember what I said yesterday, you got neither the intelligence or life experience to comment. If your gonna blame a sex scandal on corporate greed, you are a hopeless cause. I suppose the solar flare this weekend was caused by corporate greed, the heatwave caused by corporate greed, you lousy situation in life caused by corporate greed.....Get a clue Johnny Bob....Get a clue.
EVERYTHING is connected in some way to Corporate Greed. It is the source of all evil.
sounds like somebodys mommy and daddy work for a corporation and his only option is to work for said corp. boo hoo
Resorting to personal insults with no basis of backing them up. Looks like you're out of arguments here and I was right all along.
I win!
Sounds like i struck a nerve
I take offence to your saying i did not have any basis to my point of attack, you lower me to obama's level- check
"What is corporate greed, john? Give me a definition and then use the phrase in a sentence. I’ll wait.
I'm with Sidekick on this. Give us this truth. Educate us. Enlighten us. We are all anxiously awaiting your revelations.
The gnat has got nothing and we all know it. How many times, now, has he run away from your questions? I say it's time for him to put up or shut up as he has worn out his welcome.
At least 5 of us have asked him to tell us what corporate greed is.
He has been unable to give even one example.
We are all wasting our time on him because he is unable to comprehend anything we are saying.
He lives in his own little delusional world, and the only thing I can think of to explain why his parents allow him to keep up this behavior is that he's an only child/momma's boy, or his parents are college professors.
I've given plenty over the past year of posting. The federal reserve being established and abolishing the gold standard, outsourcing in the name of cheaper labor and worse working conditions, the recent housing crisis by intentionally giving bad loans to force foreclosures. These are just a few of the things I've gone into over the course of me posting here. All brushed aside as "conspiracy theories". So why should I bother anymore. I gave my proof, you chose to not listen. So I condensed all that truth into one simple to repeat phrase.
TD,.............MO.
@John
Those are hardly the comprehensive reasons and references I've been asking for. And you haven't been paying much attention if you think they're news to the posters here. I'm against the federal reserve. I'd like a return to the gold standard. And I'd like a free market so that "corporate greed" would result in so many corporations being formed that they would have to compete for consumer dollars by producing better products for less money. And they'd have to compete for labor by offering more money and better jobs.
But "corporate greed" did not create the federal reserve. That was the government. In fact quite a lot of the proponents for the federal reserve argued that it was necessary to remove monetary fluctuations that could be manipulated or rather were created because of the "capitalists". Does J.P. Morgan saving he gold reserves ring a bell for you?
And as for moving off the gold standard . . . well that was the government too. A large part of the reasoning for that was so that government could spend far beyond its means. Some of that was for wars and military spending. Now I am against unchecked military spending . . . but a reasonable amount is necessary and one of the only legitimate functions of the state. And a lot more of this government spending has been wasted on social programs. Social programs like the ones you subsist off of John. So why don't you do what you can to end the system that has made this "corporate greed" possible. Get a job and pay your way. Stop giving the government an excuse to support this system you only half despise.
Hey Johnny Bob is "pretty much right"...he ain't even sure of what he is talking about....I can assure you given the number of thumbs down you get for your idiotic posts, you're "PRETTY MUCH WRONG" all the time....You can't even answer a simple question, just insults and what you think is funny. We had this conversation yesterday little man, you are, how can I put this simply? A MORON.....Only a MORON (LOOK IT UP) thinks he is right when he is wrong...You got nothing..
Keep trying to convince yourself that you're right. Just remember one thing. Ask yourself, "If I say one thing and everyone else disagrees with it, who is most likely wrong?". You might have a revelation. It's highly unlikely that you're right and the rest of the world is wrong. Not even Ron Paul is trying to convince people that corporate greed is ruining the world.
let's start by setting you straight on some definitions.
Corporate Greed:
The belief that hard work, personal risks, innovation and investments should be rewarded in a capitalist economy.
Crony Capitalism:
A close relationships between business people and government officials in which politicians or their supporters grant favors to connected businesses in the distribution of legal permits, government grants, special tax breaks, and so forth in exchange for campaign contributions or outright kickbacks.
I seem pretty much right. You don't want to admit it though.
wrong again, john
You you basically run out of logical arguments and finally realized I was right? Hence the nastiness.
Well, John, people generally aren't that nice to people who have worn out their welcome.
I'm not here to impress you, and I'm tired of your mind numbingly idiotic drivel. Don't expect me to be nice to you.
Real Classy, poppa!
Shut the fuck up idiot.
Your mother probably thinks you're brain dead.
Or maybe what's what they WANT you to think, you're not looking at the big picture. They're not making it hard on themselves, we all know that Corporate Greed is already heavily established and can cope with the tight restrictions. They are making it hard on the small business just starting out in order to force a monopoly for their greedy ways.
drb, the only problem with your statement, which by the way is correct, is that joan seems to have it in his head that corporations run the congress also. It all goes back to corporations.
What doesn't make sense is that in his blank little mind, corporations control congress. The same congress that passes extreme regulations that make life difficult for those corporations. So in essence, he is claiming that corporations are making their own lives difficult, and less profitable, because they are greedy.
Circular arguments never really work out, do they?
The federal reserve being established and abolishing the gold standard
Incorrect statemet...It was congress that passed legislation to move us off the gold standard.
outsourcing in the name of cheaper labor and worse working conditions, the recent housing crisis by intentionally giving bad loans to force foreclosures.
All caused by congressional legislation and regulation once again.
Face it John, you got the wrong boogyman.
Setting the Federal Reserve aside which has nothing to do with corporate anything, outsourcing is not the definition of corporate greed but a natural reaction to artificially high costs of labor and an overly regulated economy. Now, DEFINE corporate greed? Not some half-assed "example" that you think is corporate greed. Think!
Don't forget to use the phrase in a sentence.
John, you have won nothing whatsoever. When are you going to get it through your thick skull that no one here is interested in the BS you are peddling? If you were really interested in "the truth" you would do more research. And if you were interested in promoting what you belive in, you would take your message elsewhere as everyone here has told you that we are not buying your point of view. Stop being a gnat and move on to people more receptive to your ideology.
What did you win? What is corporate greed? Insulting you is just a bonus. No loss to the strength of anyone's argument at all.
Your dick is directly connected to corporate greed..The source of all evil is stupid people like you who can't get a grip. Your as mentally unstable as Oblivious....I will say it every time, you got no job, you got no future, your on public assistance and it's all some mythical corporations fault, your just a whiny frickin' victim like all the libturds. "Help me, I be a victim of 7-11, McDonald's, general Motors, Napa auto parts, Johnson Marine, UPS, dey all conspiring to keep poor Johnny Bob down...Your an idiot.
They're conspiring to keep EVERYONE down. You're either their slave or out in the cold.
Dumber than a box of dirt....that's our Johnny. I might as well be talking to a box of turds. TD MO
At least I don't let myself get pushed around by Corporate Greed like dirt.
Yes you do. You are a slave to your own paranoia and neuroses manifested as corporate greed. You are a serious head case.
You're a slave to your paranoia and your food stamps and free phone.
If you were truly free, you would be self supporting and not a leech on the economy.
What is corporate greed, john? Give me a definition and then use the phrase in a sentence. I'll wait.
If I'm a slave to anything it's to everyone's reluctance to see the truth for what Corporate Greed really is. And how they fail to see how right I am.
Of course you can and you are! Anyone can see it.
You can't be a slave to yourself. And my own "paranoia" is nothing but truth regarding Corporate Greed.
There is for people with a solid work ethic, marketable skills, willingness to relocate if necessary, a willingness to start at the entry level if necessary, a good attitude, and those not hopelessly dependent on their mommies or the government.
That you fail on all accounts listed above just leaves you with your pathetic "corporate greed" nonsense. Crowley, you are such a puke.
Even with all those skills, unless you're willing to suck Corporate Greed's metaphorical (and sometimes literal) dick you ain't getting in.
It's not about giving people employment, it's about control to Corporate Greed.
Corporations are people too.
Just listened to a Romney brainwashing speech huh?
Just confirmed it, your an idiot John..A sad pathetic idiot with no future, no job prospects, all you got is a free phone and food stamps...Even your insults are stupid and lack thought..Come back when you grow up, if that ever happens and you ever make it in the real world instead of the whiny I am a victim world....
John has already confirmed, that He is an idiot.
I just can't understand why you guys are arguing with a stump. TD,...............MO.
I confirmed nothing except Romney being a Corporate sellout.
john, You ought to apply at Penn State. You would fit right in and they would fit in you.
The only thing iron about you is your head.
Stating the phrase "corporate greed" is not an argument. I think you should try and tackle some of Kip's questions he posed to you. After all, a good libertarian like you should be comfortable talking about Austrian economics and the role limited government plays promoting economic freedom.
Nah, just you trying to think of a response to my ironclad argument against Corporate Greed.
Dum da dum dum, dum da dum dum dum.....Your song
"Those that can... do; Those that can't... teach"
and those that can't teach, teach gym.― Woody Allen
And those that can't teach, administrate.
And those who can't do, teach or administrate, and have no skills whatsoever.... altogher now.... ARE PRESIDENT!
Hey Michael Mann, is that a hockey stick in your pocket or were you just happy to see that grant money?