The other side of transgender . Belgian is euthanized after female-to-male sex change operation. Maybe, just maybe, gender is not the issue with these unhappy people:
“I was ready to celebrate my new birth. But when I looked in the mirror, I was disgusted with myself. My new breasts did not match my expectations and my new penis had symptoms of rejection. I do not want to be… a monster.”
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Funny thing about the LGBT community: When it comes to the "L" and the "G," we're continually told "I was born this way, and God doesn't make mistakes!" When it comes to the "T" portion of the acronym, we're suddenly supposed to believe that God DOES make mistakes and medical science must come to the rescue.
(And as for the "B": well, they clearly just don't have an opinion about anything.)
Right. Obviously liberals/progressives/socialist and so on have hypocritical and irrational ideologies that make no sense cannot truly stand on their own when implement and required FORCE manipulation/acceptance in order to exist.
I wonder if the "Bs" are those people who show up on all the political surveys as "Independent voters" or "Undecided."
No, they're the Obama voters who were bussed across state lines to register and vote twice.
Some "B"s of the female persuasion can be a lot of fun, though.
Sure. They can be a lot of fun I suppose but I think about their mental situation. I know of porn women who classify themselves as bisexual, but if given a choice they would rather be married to a man and have a child and not allow their kids to be involved in porn. If you look at their pasts, you will find they were raped/molested by strangers, known people/Family or Father/Parent. Being with women when they feel vulnerable and don't want to deal with men is a way to escape their past. "Being fun" is a facade. The same for male bisexuals. Most if not all male bisexuals are truly gay and most female bisexuals would rather just be with a man in the end once they get help or once they are ready to settle down.
So true!
People should be very careful what they wish for because they might actually get what they want.
Socialised medicine failed this person twice!!
And yet, in its own estimation of itself, it came to her rescue twice!
With all the comments and jokes that could be made about this poor, lost soul, I truly feel bad for him. I can't imagine what being born into a body I'm not meant for is like. Couple that with parents who are less than loving, and I'd say that's one very sad life. I do not condone euthanasia/suicide, but neither have I walked in his shoes. Rest in peace, Nathan Verhelst.
I appreciate your compassion. However gave you a TD because she was born in the body that she was meant to have. The problem here is that she felt she would be happier and accepted BY OTHERS (especially her parents/mom) if she changed her gender. That is the problem and that is the mistake. She was sick and she needed love, counseling and stay the hell away from those that wouldn't love her for who she was and form her own family and community. Instead she chose to drastically changed her outside to match the disgusting needs of others that hated her. That is not sane and that is not normal. Her name is Nancy she didn't accept her fake maleness that is why she committed suicide. Nothing about this is okay nor normal. Her actions were too dramatic and for all the wrong reasons.
barbiegirl ny, you don't help the situation by accepting the gender change as fixed in stone and calling her 'him.' This poor unfortunate woman is still a woman, regardless of all of the new added bling. We don't improve upon anything God makes, we only f*** things up and blame Him for it. I agree with the assessment that her 'supposedly' loveless mother was the major reason for her anxiety and distress and this is what shoved her mercilessly into the utter darkness and oblivion of the LGBT movement. In most cases, it's the father who forces young girls into becoming lesbians not the mother, but there's always that one case and this may be it. Her way out would have been to embrace God, but that seems not to have been in her stars and her decisions to drastically change her 'gender' may eventually lead to her death. All the way around, it's a sad story.
I have a feeling that Christians if they are any left in Belgium essentially capitulated and are not involved in the culture at least not to the point where she would have reached out for christian counseling or at least friends.
You're not getting it. No one is born into a body that isn't meant for them. It's a mental disorder to think "This isn't my body." Just like people who think "This isn't my leg and I want to have it chopped off."
It's crazy and it needs to be cured.
The person in this article DID NOT think of herself as a man and then find that her parents weren't accepting of the idea. Quite the opposite. She decided to think of herself as a man because her parents wanted a boy and TOLD HER SO on many occasions.
She was a victim of a delusion brought about by abuse - as are ALL so-called "transgenders."
It's called being crazy.
She essentially committed suicide due to a mental disorder as you stated. No responsible body of people should have first changed her gender and no responsible body should have allowed the euthanasia. She should have been given counseling even if for the rest of her life and asked her to move away and cut off her relationship with her parents and form her own community. In fact this woman needed Jesus Christ more than anything. I do feel bad for her, but her decisions were all insane and the people around her didn't care they saw $$ in the operation and in the euthanasia. Just like people here see a lot of money in abortions. It is disgusting. Now they are talking about euthanizing children?! The entire country is insane and sadly we are going down this path.
And, if you read the story, and believe what was said about his mother, it was external factors that drove him to believe that he was born with the wrong body.
Not all insane people are born that way. Many are made that way by people around them.
Yeah, but be careful how much you blame the mother. We know the transgender's side of the story, that's all. My mother said she wanted a girl - I wasn't damaged by that revelation. (Seemed perfectly logical to me: I was a late mistake baby, she had two boys already, she wanted a girl. Who cares?) It's possible the mother is not anything like the way she's portrayed... and I know some wonderful people who somehow survived horrible parents (including, for example, my two daughters who survived an alcoholic absentee mother and a father who didn't have a clue what he was doing).
The Mother stated that she hadn't (at the time of the article --- there is another article about this story in that link) read the letter her daughter left her before she died. She also stated that her daughter was right, she never cared for her and she was dissapointed at her birth. That she had a phantom birth and that as far as she is concerned this is good and she is moving on. So Nancy did not lie.
With that said YES many people do survive horrible parenting even if it takes years of therapy and prayer. It is a combination of having the will to survive, seeking appropriate help, having OTHERS in their lives that are positive and in many cases holding on to a benign deity/Deity. Nancy sought the most expensive, negative, challenging and dramatic avenues to solve her problems. She had no one that really cared for her and she probably didn't take the opportunity to seek out alternatives (people and circumstances) that would giver her the support that she obviously craved so much.
I'm the eldest of 3 boys, my mother kept wishing for a girl. None of us ever flipped out.
Same situation here - except I'm the youngest.
Some of us are stronger than others. I was "raised" by my stepfather, who sincerely desired that I had never been born. Well, ok. He might have been ok with it if I'd been a girl, since he DID show a tendency towards molesting little girls. But, I digress.
Before you jump on me for blaming it entirely on the mother, JP, notice that I DID qualify that with "if you read the story, and believe what was said about his mother." I didn't assume that everything this guy said was true. But I do know that in many cases of insanity, the parents are the cause.
Growing up, I knew a family that had ten boys in the quest for a girl. Sounds kinda silly to me, but what do I know? They finally had a girl, and mom immediately had her tubes tied. The girl died when she was a year old. Mom went into a depression that she never recovered from. I'm sure that didn't exactly help with keeping the boy's heads on straight.
My uncle married a woman who wanted the 7th son of a 7th son. My uncle was the 7th son, you see, and 7th sons of 7th sons are supposed to be magic or some shit like that. My aunt ended up giving birth 16 times before she got her 7th son. (And got a hysterectomy immediately afterward.) I heard my last name being called at a Halloween party one time and asked the guy why he had my last name. He turned out to be my 7th-son cousin, whereupon I cried out, "Ohmygod, you're my magic cousin!"
I'm lucky he didn't turn me into a frog.
I'm not so sure being born into a body you're not meant for is possible. In fact, that's an oxymoron. There's no long line of souls being allocated bodies by overworked bureaucrats waiting for their lunch hour. We get what we get and we make do with what we get. It seems to me this example shows the unhappiness she felt was not about gender, since changing gender obviously didn't make her any happier.
What this story tells us is how cheap human life has become. Don't like being in a body with boobs and a vagina? Cut them off and build yourself a fake penis. Still don't like your body? Oh well, you gave it a shot, now we'll help you kill yourself.
I would definitely agree with you there!! Wrong body? How can that even be possible?! I've never heard that argument, but I would be willing to hear how these people think it really possible. I do however believe she must of had a very sad opinion of herself to go to such extremes to butcher herself and then still feel that she was not worth living. The fact that they have such a program that facilitates this idea ones life is not worth anything is deplorable. No love, compassion, or inherent feeling for life.
I'm not happy with the body I was born in, I think I was meant to have an athlete's body, with Tom Cruise's face, and Oprah's money. Yea, that's it! Now, Dr Whatever, make me over so I'll be happy!
I once had a discussion with a leftie who told me that Barbie makes girls insane because they get an unrealistic expectation for their own bodies. I informed her that I had grown up wanting to be Captain America, and it hadn't driven me insane. In fact, why are so many men OK with being fat, sitting on a sofa, and watching athletes perform astounding feats?
She said, "Oh, I never thought of that." It had never crossed her mind that men might have unrealistic expectations, too, but they just shrug them off and get on with the lives they've been given. I think she got a little smarter that day.
Yes indeed good for you for spreading some knowledge and wisdom and good for her to have listened to you and taking it well.
Good for you!
Imagine that, the adicktome failed and they don't wish to be a monster. Its time people need to accept their natural sex and not attempt to change it. There use to be a commercial about not messing with mother nature Guess what the X and Y chromosomes don't like being messed with.
I do not want to be… a monster.
Too late.
Yep. Turns out transgenders are not actually misplaced souls "trapped in the wrong body," but people driven into a delusion by a simple equation of bad circumstances + unstable mind.
Who'd'a thunk it?
If I were to judge anyone on this one, it would be the Mother. The cold and callousness of her comments, in regards to her own child. A complete lack of compassion for her own offspring is strange and foreign to me.
Humans have become the equivalent of Stray dogs at the animal shelter, don't like em, Juice 'em! (that's the term shelters use for euthanasia)...Wonder which federal (or should I say Feral) department of the government will be in charge of juicing the sick, the old and conservatives under Obamadeathcare? Perhaps the EPA?
The IRS.
Seems his mother is a big part of the problem. If the story is true, he was never TREATED like a human, so had no reason to feel like one.
Seams his mother felt the same way. Doesn't sound like he ever felt human.
One less LGBT voter to deal with I guess.