Christopher Dorner standoff: Cops urge burning of cabin (vulgar language)

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• Well the LAPD is well known for using Excessive Force. But I'm with the folks that are saying somebody higher up wanted this guy quieted in a hurry. Look at the bright side, the taxpayers won't have to foot the bill for incarcerating him.

• I don't agree with this guy's method of 'clearing his name'. I smell a rat, though.

  I think that he had lost his mind, and going by what I've read about it, think that he got pushed over that edge by a whole mess of injustice. Damn shame, really.

  [scarpers off, wearing a "ATTENTION: LAPD: I'm not Chris Dorner, PLEASE DON'T SHOOT!" T-shirt.]

• Personally, I hope Dorner is dead and I don't care if he committed suicide or the police burned him out. Any trial for this scumbag would become a left-wing circus with Dorner and his lawyers turning the courtroom into a political show trial.

• I feel sorry for the person who owns that patch of charred ground.

  • You can bet their insurance carrier is already analyzing the fine print to try and wiggle out of paying for it. They could try and claim it was an act of war and deny the claim.

    • They could try and claim it was an act of war and deny the claim.

      Yet Ft Hood was merely "workplace violence".

    • Big Bear is a terrible place to be starting fires. Maybe this time of year, it's not so bad, but they are understandably a VERY fire-conscious community.

• Hi, I'm Janet Reno and when you need to start a blaze in a hurry, do what I do, reach for Kingsford charcoal. You'll be burning Branch Davidians and pissed off cops in no time.

  • I hear ATF helped David Koresh to stop smoking.

    • I hear ATF helped David Koresh to stop smoking.

      Only fair, since they made him START smoking.

• This guy was crazy and could have possibly left behind some more widows if given a chance. An extended stand-off might have afforded him with such an opportunity. No gray area here IMO. I hope he suffered... a lot.

  • I've never understood the importance of taking lunatics alive. I think SWAT teams put way too much emphasis on taking them alive. But I also agree that this guy was a danger and embarassment to the establishment, and that's why he's dead now.

• Janet Reno comes out of retirement to save the day!

• My advice during Waco: just put a fence around it, name it Waco Federal Prison and post a few guards - those people couldn't give up fast enough so they could whine about due process...
  Here, though, Karmaa is correct. What about a standoff - they usually last a while; even days. Tear gas, smoke grenades - common. Torching is NOT a common tactic.

  • My advice during Waco: just put a fence around it, name it Waco Federal Prison and post a few guards

    Can we do the same with the White House?
    Call it DC Federal Prison?

  • I agree with your Waco thinking entirely.

    In this case, sorry to say, we couldn't allow this 'minor' drama interfering with dear leader's SOTU speech. Quickly now, off with his head/sarc.

    Sarcasm aside, I can see why the cops would want this guy dead. But it is the higher up authorities wanting him dead, and quick, that is troubling to me. It seems as there was absolutely no restraint used, no idea to take him alive. Once you challenge the system, or are deemed a threat to the system, you are to be exterminated quickly so no questions can be asked and the state can set the after action narrative.

• Come on, torching a place is a standard strategy to flush somebody out. It's a little different than going in with flamethrowers and napalm grenades.

  • I thought Dorner set fire to the place then shot himself... O.o

    • There's no way to know that. And if there's evidence to the contrary, do you think we'll ever see it?

  • You must live on an interesting planet.

  • Don't we generally use smoke grenades to flush people out? Fire in a combat situation I can understand, but torching a little cabin in the woods? That seems pretty extreme. Just saying...

• These are the "authorities"? They are the ones that we task with protecting us and being able to treat even the worst offenders with respect? I am not happy about this AT ALL. In fact, I am disgusted beyond words.

  Why is what these cops did any different than what Dorner did? Dorner killed people that he felt had ruined his life. These cops were willing to kill a man because he killed people they cared about. I mean - think about it this way - Dorner was killing over something that happened to him personally. These cops were killing aver something that essentially offended them.

  I can't even wrap my thoughts around this one. I do know however, that this entire incident has eroded my confidence in police. The LAPD is clearly corrupt. These cops were allowed to bring their personal feelings into the situation. I know they are only human, but Dorner was only human too.

  (disclaimer: I am not saying that Dorner was justified or that he was even living in reality-land. What he did was dead wrong, and anyone who supported him, or rooted for him is a sick person.)

  • And to you and all the way too far and between Lady IHTM types out there

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    • Thanks Ghost!

    • Why thank you! What a sweet thought!

      • That was sweet wasn't it.

        Awe, Ghosty *blush*