Ray Burgess, CEO of Solar Power Technologies, a Texas-based solar monitoring company: “Solar panels do not work that well. Often far below expectations.” “In Italy last year, ‘they discovered that after one year in the field, over 90% of the (solar panels) from a one megawatt project began to delaminate and ended up on the ground.’ Delaminate: Scientific talk for falling apart.” The companies that make the damn things, like Solyndra, don’t work all that well either, so it’s a perfect match. And Obama makes three.
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They should make Al Gore & "O" go over there and clean it all up by hand. This still wouldn't change their stance on solar because not enough money has went into their pockets yet. They both know this is all a SCAM.
They must be doing it wrong. We've got a bunch of panels from a company in Florida up on our roof. We've had them for 3 years now, and they're still going just as strong as the day we bought them.
Apparently from this article Solar Panels work about as well as this administration, they promise to do more than they actually can and generate a lot of waste.
Wonder if they could spin that for the next election. "The Consistent Administration."
Aren't those delaminated solar panels considered hazardous waste? I know the manufacturing process is supposed to get pretty nasty. Just figured a panel breaking down would expose some of that nastiness. Anyone got input?
Not sure about hazardous, but they sure are a waste!
Efficient solar and room temperature superconductors. The holy grail of scientific research.
Hey Poppa - way off topic - but I been real real busy these last few days, pop in here every now and then - haven't seen much at all of miss britches - she been around?
Of course, but not as much as usual. I guess the signal strength on her phone isn't too good in the Wall Street area.
Sometimes the tinfoil hat causes disruptions in the signal...or so the theory goes, I thnk.
FWEETNESS! You're still around. Tea?
And don't forget cold fusion.
Or is that fission?
Whatever, you get the point.
It's fusion. Fusion generates much more energy than fission, but also generates much more heat. Cold fusion would solve all our electric generation problems, as long as they can achieve it and will be allowed to build the plants.
"...and will be allowed to build the plants"
Now THERE'S a whole new can of worms. No doubt the luddites will be protesting that too. If someone invented a way to create energy by just thinking about it, the luddites would "find" some irreparable environmental harm in that too.
A good friend of mine is an electronics engineer. He told me several years ago, when this recent obsession with solar was just getting started, that real, practical efficiency in solar-generated power is not in the forseeable future. By which he meant that there need to be some significant breakthroughs which currently we do not even imagine, before large-scale solar can be used.
I hope this CEO is not actually surprised at this news. Otherwise, that company needs a new CEO.
Just like we need a new administration?
Delaminate is not scientific talk, it's basic vocabulary.
I'd say more technical than basic, but it still sounds jargony, like 'energetic disassembly.'
You mean it's like saying that the Islamic Terrorist energetically disassembled himself?
I think Obama would call it kinetic delamination
I guess "basic" is developing a new definition. The way I figure it, less than 10% really understand words like that (along with "clinical tests" and "leaves dishes virtually spotless").
When I had my own wind and solar system at my home in the desert, I bought only the panels that showed up at the local solar shop "damaged in transit." I got a huge discount on them, and they tested out to put out power just fine, they just couldn't be sold for full price because the plastic overlay was shattered. Eight years later, when I sold my place, they were still working fine, no delamination whatsoever. (I've yet to run across anyone that can't figure out the meaning of the word delaminate)
Maybe mine worked well because I didn't buy them from a government subsidized company?
Actually, it's just the peeling off of layers where the adhesive has failed.
Look at plywood, it is many layers with the grains going in alternating directions, which is what gives it it's strength.
Delamination is when one or more of the layers come off due to adhesive failing. This ruins the strength of the plywood.
I got you covered on that plywood stuff, Poppa. Remember, I'm the one that convinces people on a regular basis that my rocking horses are carved out of the entire trunk of the plywood tree.
Yes RHG, that's why I used the plywood example, because almost everyone understands that.
Solar panels are made by a layering process also, that is why they can delaminate.
Yep, seen it happen many times. If you let the wood get wet, the glue will let go pretty quick. What I'm saying about the solar panels I had is that after all those years, even though I started out with damaged panels, they hadn't come apart at all. So they CAN be built with some quality. And I'm just as sure that if they're not built right, they WILL come apart. The best way to ensure that something isn't built right is to get the government involved.
From Southwestern Ecuador, if I recall correctly.
See, I'm not the only one who knows about plywood.
I bet you and Poppa know all about T1-11 siding too. ;)
Or perhaps they weren't made in China?
Good ol' Bob on drinkingwithbob.com was just talking about this. ...Or, rather, shouting about it.
http://drinkingwithbob.com/?p=448
If solar was a good investment people like Trump would be investing in it. They're not. They never have.
It's amazing how moonbats will never give up on a bad idea.
Then how did Rose's neighbor, T. Bone Pickens, get snookered by wind and end up with warehouses full of turbines? I understand at that level there are ways to make money I've never dreamed about, but still, what was his angle?
Or did he just whoops one in his world as compared to me going Beta instead of VHS in mine? I'm confused.