Marines guarding US Embassy in Egypt not permitted live ammo?

Marines guarding US Embassy in Egypt not permitted live ammo? “Ambassador to Egypt Anne Patterson ‘did not permit U.S. Marine guards to carry live ammunition,’ according to multiple reports on U.S. Marine Corps blogs.” “…reports indicate that the Obama administration was relying on Egypt’s new Muslim Brotherhood-backed government to ensure American security…” WTF????

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  • You know damn well if some marine shoots one of those assholes, even in defense of his life or to defend someone else's life, his ass is going to be grass. What with the spineless wimps and Perfumed Princes (credit to Col. David Hackworth) in the military leadership and the suckass-media, that poor marine's life will be hell.

    • I have a picture of Hack on my desk swearing me in for my re-enlistment as I type this. A true soldier's soldier, how much he is missed and any other who thinks the way he did. Thanks for the post!

  • And today more rioting and attempts to attack Embassies from US and Germany inTunis and the Sudan. Some Sheik called for everyone to "defend their GOD" during AM prayers and they all obediently went out and rioted. The Marines are famous for "fightnig our country;s battles" form Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli." So why aren't they being allowed to do their jobs?

  • When I was in the PI and armed, you damn well bet the arms were loaded. Granted, the first three rounds that would be fired were personally owned (less paperwork and fewer questions that way) but nevertheless, there were live rounds in the mags. I cant imagine being in some shithole like Cairo or Libya with empty weapons. Are these people completely nuts???

    • Well, Bama has zero experience in the military either (like so MUCH of his responsibilities as President) and he clearly doesn't place much respect on the Diplomatic corps ( ok, I get that) or the marines that are sent to guard them. Nuts.

  • Pretty sad when the Marines in Cairo didn't even have a water cannon handy. More brilliance from their commander in chief.

  • Where is the military leadership on this one? Have the Marines forgotten Black Hawk Down so soon? Come on NCO Corps, do your job and protect your men, or are you too busy playing hide-the-weenie with your bunk-mate?

  • Right out of the Jimmy (teeth) Carter's play book. Send the US Marines into a shit storm with only soft weapons(i e batons) and then charge them with protecting the whole damn compound. I bet her personal body guards are armed to the nines with everything possible. What an asinine fool. That's what you can expect from a liberal dim wit. They'll stand there letting someone kill them while the whole time saying " can't we talk this out and I can't believe you are doing this".

    Those of you on the left, it's time to wake UP and face facts. Your campfire mentality isn't working on those that flat out hate all of us. As soon as you realize this bit of truth, you might stand a chance at surviving.

      • Missile Command

        Until you placed the link here I'd not seen it. I've just been around dumb ass limped wrist dim wits for a significant portion of my career. I find it shocking when I have to answer questions of why didn't you try the personal skills training you received during your time in the academy while someone is either attempting to resist or has taken an aggressive stance or worse has produced a weapon. At this point I've been fortunate enough not to have had to use deadly and or lethal force. My other training has been sufficient enough.

        A FTO once told me he heard the best response once while waiting to testify in a trial. The liberal prosecutor (yes they are out there) asked a witness why he shot and killed his attacker. Without hesitation the guy leaned forward and stated " I'd rather be here where I'm at today then where he's at today." seems the one who was dead had started the situation and produced a gun 1st. The defendant was found not guilty by justifiable homicide.

  • Many of the State Department bigwigs were Peace Corps hippies when they were young. Ambassador Stevens was - and then he graduated from Berkeley.. 'nuff said - right?

    The point is that these lifers in the State Department are touchy-feely unicorns and rainbows types. Even living in a war zone doesn't cause reality to set in. Guns are BAD BAD BAD, and one of those Marines might accidentally shoot himself or something. And besides, all we REALLY need to do is lock hands and sing Koom-By-Ah together and we will have world peace.

    That stupid moron was lucky that it wasn't HER instead of Stevens. Seriously!

    • That rant reminds me of a book called The Last Centurion by John Ringo. If you haven't read it, you ought to.

    • Remember, the Yalies joined the CIA and the Harvard grads went into the State Department.

      The State Department has always been very much an infiltration target by our enemies. For example, Alger Hiss went to Harvard Law School

  • So how many people here make sure they have their extra mag on them before they leave the house? Lol. I personally don't carry, but I know people who do and they always have an extra magazine or 2.

    If these Marines can't carry ammo and defend themselves or protect the embassy, bring them home. We don't need any more dead Marines or any other branch of the military.

    • Joe not only do I have my extra mag, I also carry a nice backup as well. A Mossburg 12ga with a pistol grip. 1st round down range is a slug, followed by buck shot then alternated.

      • Model 500?
        I used to have that one also, with an 18" barrel and modified choke. Plus the 28" barrel with full choke, and shoulder stock.