ObamaCare best advertisement for Libertarianism ever

ObamaCare best advertisement for Libertarianism ever. “In truth, especially in a big country like ours, the more the government controls healthcare, the worse that care is — and, ironically, the less democratic, the more discriminatory, it becomes. Where there are bureaucrats, there is favoritism.” To paraphrase Obungler’s first piece of work chief of staff, “Never waste a good failure.”

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  • Actually, everything the government tries to control, the worse it becomes. I cannot think of one thing government does efficiently or effectively. Can someone name something for me?

    • One thing government does efficiently or effectively? How 'bout three?

      Crashing the economy.

      Attacking traditions.

      Murdering babies.

      • Ok, it seems clarification is needed here. Name one thing GOOD that government does efficiently or effectively.

        • Gov kicked off the Internet pretty well, and had the good sense to hand of huge chunks of it to commercial/private control fairly early.

          Had government continued to run the thing, i doubt it would have come out so well, nor would i be in my current line of work

          I see similarity in our space program.. and maybe fusion research decades out

          • It would be shortsighted to argue the federal government does nothing right but no one can argue that it hasn't gone way beyond its constitutional authority. That includes Medicare and Medicaid, which should not exist at the federal level.

            As for the space program, Interstates, CDC, and military, I would argue those things are constitutional under Article 1 Section 8. They are all there literally or under the 'promote the progress of science...' enumerated power.

          • Yet, the interstate system is often used as a way of bringing the states into line with what the fed wants to force on them.
            "If you don't pass this law, we will withold your highway funds" is an oft heard story coming from the fed.

        • Well, Flash, we have a pretty decent interstate highway system, courtesy of the government.

          We've got a good Medicare program for seniors.

          We have a CDC that tracks and controls disease throughout the nation, as well as doing research to combat disease. I'll bet you thought those diseases just stayed contained on their own, didn't you?

          We have a pretty good military, I'm told. And a lot of our medical technology was developed as a result of government research to treat war injuries and illnesses of our soldiers and veterans.

          I could go on, but I have to go to sleep (working tonight). You sound a bit like a petulant child, complaining that Mommy and Daddy never did anything for him, but not realizing that Mommy and Daddy have worked very hard to keep him healthy and safe and well nourished and comfortable.

          • I would challenge your assertion that Medicare is a good program. It is stop gap at best, and still leaves many seniors out in the cold as far as access. Our interstate highway system is badly in need of basic infrastructure repair and maintenence. CDC is trying hard, but isn't funded nearly well enough for the job they are expected to do, and have a heavier burden placed upon them by the dysfunction of the FDA, the USDA, etc as far as PREVENTING outbreaks to begin with. And none of it has been done cheaply or in a well organized way, as priorities change with each election and whose in charge in Congress and the White House. So you can stop patting yourself on the back for shutting down Pappa's comment.

    • The entire government, as it is run now by the Republicrats, is an excellent case for Libertarianism.

  • You want a good laugh?
    My wife thinks we should move to Canada! She thinks healthcare will be better there!

    LMFAO!!!

      • I've said it many times before, when you remove the insurance process from healthcare, it brings costs down. Drs don't have to deal with the medical billing and coding, they don't have to wait for payment, and when they take cash, even now, they charge less.

        • Back in the day, whe no one had insurance, that is exactly how it worked. And Doctors were creative about bartering if cash was a problem. The some folks got together to form sort of coops to pay for catestrophic injuries and accidents, People went to the Doctor generally when they really needed to. Unfortunately, that resulted in a delay in treatment that frequently cost more than if the problem had been identified earlier and treatment started earliee. So as a BENEFIT, companies started offering insurance that was less expensive than individual insurance because the risk was spread out over multiple people. As medicine began to focus on preventive care, employees began to insist on coverage for it, and the cost went up because the risk equation got altered. EVERYONE used preventive care. And people became Doctor dependent. If you have a cold, you don't need to see a doctor. Stay home and take something for fever and aches, and drink alot of fluid. Only in certain cases should you contaminate everyone else by going to see the doctor, much less going to work, Co pays were instituted to reduce this flood of unnecessary office visits and the cost went up. Then came PPO's to try and keep cost down, by contracting with a group of physicians to provide care at a lower cost. And then the gateway PPO's where to see a specialist, you had to be referred by your regular doctor. Not everything needs a specialist, and frequently lay people chose the WRONG specialist for their problem. Going back to a properly functioning family doctor would save zillions.