Martin funeral director: No signs of fight on body

Martin funeral director: No signs of fight on body. It seems there’s something new coming out all the time, so here’s another bit of information.

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  • I am sorry I didnt see this earlier.

    Just so everyone knows. This is what Likwidlizard means by chimpout: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chimpout

    "AWL LAWDY" is a way for him to make fun of how American Blacks speak.

    Ladies and gentleman just so you know likwidlizard is a racist. Plain and simple. Please pay attention to the words and acronyms he is using. He is a danger to the site.

    Just so you know likwidlizard, I was not angry I was not out of control, I was not insulting and I certainly wasn't demeaning. People like you disgust me and I can assure you that G-d does not like ugly and that is what you are you and people like you... ugly through and through.

      • Yes it got deleted it was a racist post. He essentially called me an angry female monkey or ape, however I was nothing but civil to this person throughout the whole event. Demanding respect yes but civil nevertheless. I guess it was meant to be an answer to you that he would back off me using slang to depict his racism. On the other thread he used an acronym TBN and that is a racist thing as well.

        Thanks Editor.

  • He did not get a chance to use his fists while flat on his back shouting for help.......there were other remedies to hand.

    • I am sorry but your post is confusing... Martin's funeral director stated that MARTIN had no defensive nor offensive wounds. If he was on his back shouting for help considering he had no weapons then there were no other remedies at hand.

      • Now I am confused...thought it was Zimmerman on his back shouting for help. I am reminded of a great quote from Hamlet:

        "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." Shakespeare's Hamlet, Act III, scene II. The phrase has come to mean that one can "insist so passionately about something not being true that people suspect the opposite of what one is saying."

        • This article is about Martin not having bruising on his body according to the funeral director. Did you read the story? Your post made no sense. I think newsel that you and others can also fit that description if you care to truthful to yourself. It seems a lot of you are not reading the articles at all.

          • Thought some of us are discussing facts (eye witness reports) versus opinions...?? I do not understand (speaking from experience) how Martin would have any bruising on his body when he was the one cold cocking and on top beating the crap out of someone?

          • OMG!

            FROM THE ARTICLE: "Trayvon Martin was buried in Miami with a gunshot wound to his chest. But otherwise, according to Richard Kurtz, the funeral director who prepared Martin for burial, his body showed no injuries.
            "We could see no physical signs like there had been a scuffle [or] there had been a fight," he said. "The hands -- I didn't see any knuckles, bruises or what have you. And that is something we would have covered up if it would have been there."

            So what he is saying is that Martin had no defensive nor offensive bruising

            If he had no defensive bruising, then that is fine because it shows that he was not beaten by Zimmerman, but not to have offensive markings is weird because it means he did not beat Zimmerman. Get it? Do you understand now?

            Now LIKE I SAID this is strange and therefore I would like very much to see the official report. If the funeral director is lying the official report should show that. If it is true it means that Zimmerman self inflicted his wounds, if it is not true then obviously the funeral director is full of crap.

          • I'll REPEAT myself again Kimmy Kyle.. A funeral director is not a coronor. Some of your comments are flip-flopping. Go ahead TD me-I could care less. Maybe you should try reading other sites besides this one to get the FACTS.

          • The name is KimmyQueen. Not Kimmy Kyle. I have not insulted you, nor mocked your name. I am trying to be civil here. I agree! The director is not a coroner, I am not disagreeing with that. No I am not flip flopping I was astounded by the news, however I have said I find it so strange that is why I want to see something official. I don't understand why is that making you so angry?

            So only YOU have the facts ha? And I cannot make statements because then you call me names and you don't want me to answer back because you are better than me? Do I have it right?

          • KQ, If Zimmerman is found to have murdered that young man, I hope he never sees a day of freedom again. But the mail order reverends always got to scream from the raftors about every situation being the race card. I'm tired of it. No offence to you, OK? But my patience with this kind of black behavior is no more. I'm tired of reading stories where blacks have attacked whites and the MSM says nothing about it. FBI stats has stated that 83% of whites and 90% of blacks are victims of murder by blacks. Blacks are killing off thier own race. Sharpton and Jackson have NEVER did anything to help thier race unless it meant a BIG payday for them. Ask Budweiser/ Ameritech/ Coca Cola/ Toyota/ Paine Weber/ Morgan Stanley/ Goldman Sachs, the list goes on and on. These reverends are pure crooks and they are counting on a payday with this killing even if it takes riots in the streets because that's when they'll get paid to calm the situation which they produced to begin with.

          • The interesting thing that I was not even talking about that nor was I in any way defending that. Where did you see me defend the race baiting? Nowhere. Your anger was directed towards the wrong person as DRB stated. You were essentially acting like a rabid person looking for someone to unleash your bile. Because you are tired of Black blah blah blah you had to unleash your hatred on me? Why because I am Black? Why because I believe that Zimmerman is not innocent? I take that from liberals all the time, but I certainly do not appreciate taking that from people that claim to be conservatives. I am not at fault that they are doing what they are doing. My entire debate has been about the questions being raised by the case, not about the race baiting and certainly not in defense of it. I have been here long enough for someone like you to know better. I am done with you on this issue, I hope that next time you take the time to be more civil if we do disagree on an issue.

          • Agreed, but there is no need for you to stir the pot with your own rantings coming from the opposite direction. Further, it seems that you had directed these rantings toward KQ when she has nothing what so ever to do with what you are fussing about. When you take things out on the wrong person, you are the @$$.

          • As one who has done a lot of sparring, I can tell you that I have never had offensive injuries or marks. I've had my share of black eyes but I've never injured my hands or feet. Just saying that the funeral director's observations do not mean much to me. In other words, this is more superfluous clutter.

          • It could be that is why I want to see the official reports, because as I have said it makes no sense. However with that said, Zimmerman's description was of a rather violent and crude and bare knuckles fight not a sparing session, which I believe also comes with taping or enveloping the hands. Also I don't think that Zimmerman would just stand there and not put in a punch or two, especially when he was able to "allegedly" beat an ex girlfriend and "allegedly" beat a cop a few years ago. I am sure that Zimmerman would have attempted to defend himself at least scratch Martin or something. That is why I find the funeral director's description strange.

          • Trust me, I didn't always tape or wear gloves once I got to a certain level. Most street fights are over very very quickly. One good shot in the chin and Zimmerman would have been toast. I got knocked out when I sparred for my TKD brown belt and I felt like Neo waking up in the Matrix pod. The sound was the same. Weird. I still don't remember the hit and I guarantee you if such a shot was delivered to Zimmerman he doesn't remember it either. He would have come to with Martin on top of him and really unable to defend himself.

          • He may not have remembered but the witness saw it happened, there was also a witness that claimed there was a fight (Martin and Zimmerman fought with Martin ending on top). If there was a fight there had to be markings that is all that I am saying. In any case, it doesn't matter, it is an odd case. I really don't want to get into this further, because it doesn't matter either the funeral director is lying or he is not. The report will state more.

      • Last time I heard funeral directors are NOT coroners. Maybe Olivia can prove me wrong. Heh.

        • You obviously haven't read the whole thread. Was it laziness? I know that he is not a coroner that is why I want to see the actual report. However he did get to see the body and he is qualified to know if a body has been mangled or not. However, considering all the facts as we know it I do not believe it, even though I do believe Zimmerman is guilty of something because it doesn't make sense. Next time take the time to read the whole thread.

          • Why do you keep insulting me and acting as if I am your enemy for having a different point of view than yours? I am not Olivia nor Kyle. I abhor the race baiting, but I do have the right to express concern that this case will be all about that, and not about finding what happened to the young man.

            This is the crux: If it is found that Zimmerman by following created the situation that lead to Martin's death (even if Martin beat Zimmerman), does he have the right to claim self defense? Does a person get to claim self defense and be absolved of a crime, if he created the situation that lead him to kill someone in the first place? That is all that I have been asking from the beginning. It is a debatable issue, but it is almost as if people just want to belittle me, instead of debating the issue itself. That is sad coming from fellow conservatives.

    • He had no defensive nor offensive wounds on him ACCORDING TO THE GUY. He had no bruising on the knuckles and so on and so forth. However I find that hard to believe so I would like to see what the coroner say.

      • You sound just like OLIVIA KIMMY KYLE. Hey ask them to ship you all the findings, tests, Xrays etc. So you can have all that PROOF that people here aren't giving you. I can't prove anything for you but I know all too well what ghetto thugs are like. This **** wasn't an angel as the mail order reverends would like to persuade everyone to believe. Gold teeth, tats, drugs, and trespassing into neighborhoods he had no business being in. I have a very hard time believing these race baiting oh so truthful Tawana Briley type 'reverends'. Will I change my mind? Heh

        • THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. This is why this story is toxic and should be left alone. Stories like these are an albatross around conservatives' necks, because it creates a lot of animosity and that is what liberals want. Why are you attacking me personally? You attack half the thread by calling people idiots for no discernable reason. All I did was post that the STORY AT HAND stated that the director said he (Martin) had not bruising (either defensive or offensive). If he didnt not have any bruising (other than the gun shot), then it means he did not assault nor was he assaulted. So your post made NO SENSE. Did you even read the article?

          Did you even read the whole thread? Are you lazy? I was astonished as this makes no sense, then I stated that we need to see the official report, because the ramifications of this will be pivotal to the case. I posted that I cannot believe it.

          By insulting me you are in essence behaving like a liberal. You are more of an Olivia actually. Are you angry because I put up a fact that you either didn't read or you didn't comprehend the article? What is your problem? Am I in the wrong for wanting to know the official report?! I am not asking YOU to prove anything to me, all I did was state what the article stated, which would make your post nonsensical.

          This is not about Martin being an angel or not. This thread is a discussion on the funeral director's assessment which could be wrong or not, that is why we need to have the official report.

          Him having gold teeth is inconsequential to the case, and him being suspended or having drugs issues at school is also inconsequential because that is not the reason he got shot. He did not trespass in the neighborhood because his family lived there. What is wrong with you? Yes the race baiting is bad enough, however people who claim to be conservatives attacking another one and acting like angry people is exactly what the liberals want. Why are you giving them the pleasure?

          • My "idiots" was pertaining to the mail order "revrends". I called NO ONE HERE idiots. Sorry it appeared that way. I don't call people on this thread names unless it's idiots like OLIVIA. Are we straight now?

          • There was no reason for you to liken me to her. It is an insult. In any case, I really dislike what this story has done. I hope this story goes away and soon.

          • The story will go away but it's not going away quickly with the mail order reverends race baiting day in and day out.

          • We agree. Obama et al should have not gotten involved. That was never something I cared for. My concerns were others, not sure if people like you are angry because you think that I am defending the race baiting, but I never did that is why I find the uncivility perplexing.

  • So, let's say they arrest, convict and incarcerate Zimmerman. Is it over then or do we get to beat this dead horse into perpetuity?

      • I know what you're saying. I'm getting tired of repeating myself on this subject matter. Enough already.

        • Yes I realize that I am repeating myself as well. There is a new person coming in every day berating me and assuming things when I have already spoken to that same issue days ago. Nothing is going to be resolved here, we are human beings and we are free to think what we want, all we are doing is putting our two cents. I still think Casey Anthony murdered her daughter AND her case was investigated and she went through due process and she was found not guilty. I still believe that OJ Simpson murdered his ex-wife and her friend and he also was found not guilty and went through due process and everything else. Am I wrong to believe that? Perhaps but that is what I believe. They are guilty and justice was not served. However their cases were investigated nevertheless.

          Even though I am willing to believe that Zimmerman may not have had PREVIOUS intention in killing Martin as he was following him, I just think he is guilty because he initiated an action that led to a death that he could have avoided, he was irresponsible and he should be investigated and go through due process. That is MY opinion, people are free to disagree, but I am really tired of defending my opinion over and over again.

  • We have to see what the medical reports say of Martin's body. Even though I do believe that Zimmerman went looking for Martin, it is astonishing to me that Martin had NO fight bruises. No offensive and no receiving? If this is true then it means that Zimmerman created his own injuries! Someone else mentioned at some other thread about self inflicted injuries, I didnt kow why it was said, but if this is true then that is the case then. I don't know we are going to have to see. It is just astonishing to me, Icouldn't believe it when I read it. I hope the funeral director is not lying inorder to help the family I saw him this morning on the news.

    • You think maybe an autopsy was done? That might be a slightly more reliable source if info on this.

      • There are medical reports that have to be done on a dead body by a coroner let's wait and see I have to say that regardless of my beliefs on this case I find this very hard to belief, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

        • I suspect that they will not want to release the toxicolgy reports...note that they can take upto 4 weeks to run....

          • Maybe nothing......its a routine screening test. But still interested in finding out given the reason for the school suspension. One less thing to worry about.

          • I don't follow you. At all. I don't think it matters one single bit what was in Martin's blood or system, unless you are saying that Zimmerman smeared poison on his bullets or some other aggravating thing.

            I have been drunk on my ass more than once, and if someone shot me because I was mouthy, it'd still be murder. If, on the other hand, I was belligerent, alcohol has nothing to do with that -- I am still expected to keep my temper under control, booze or no booze. Booze/chemicals are not an excuse -- and shooting a kid who is high or mouthy is still a crime. More so, since Z was TOLD not to follow him.

            Maybe he was a troubled kid. So what? I know plenty of people that went through a rough patch -- most straighten out, given time and people that care. Some don't. They don't need some vigilante imposing capital punishment upon them for it.

          • Then again, just because the coroner is SUPPOSED to be someone we trust, I don't necessarily trust someone just because he has been installed in an office of trust.

  • OMG!!!!!!!! This is astonishing! If it is true no knuckle bruising? Are you serious? Come on... I cannot even... If this is true then well what can I say? Zimmerman and that "witness" have A LOT to explain.

        • SK I havent yet heard it not even on Fox. I dont watch 24/7 but havent heard anyone say the democrat Zimmerman or anything to that effect.

          • No, I think we are being bitten by our own on this one. Oh well. I think its fine to disagree even with those whom we like very much. At least for the most part it has been civil.

          • I agree DRB. I am very dissapointed but that is the fact. People have not been uncivil to you, but I have received uncivility. From liberals it is one thing, but from conservatives it is another issue altogether. Not sure if it is because I am Black, I really don't want to think that way. It is very dissapointed in any case. We can disagree without being disagreeable. I have been very careful not to injure anyone that I know has claimed conservatism, others unfortunately have not taken that same care.

          • Yes, that is why I said "for the MOST part". I don't care for the way Mr.X addressed you in the least and I'm not a fan of likwidlizard at the moment either (it isn't the first time likwid has come across a bit rough). Although likwid isn't as bad as Mr. X who disgusts me. At least when Robert (for example; there are others) was disagreeing he wasn't rude or insulting in anyway. For most (Mr. X being the possible exception) I don't think it had anything to do with your being black. It is just a highly charged issue, with lots of emotions being drug out. People just have strong and passionate opinions about the case. It's a sad story with two families being torn apart with grief.

          • http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/george-zimmerman-says-trayvon-martin-tried-to-take-his-gun/

            The story is less important than the fact that Zimmerman is a registered Democrat. meanwhile you have some dingbat at the AFL-CIO claiming right wing policies are to blame for the shooting. Inconvenient facts are inconvenient.

            http://weaselzippers.us/2012/03/30/afl-cio-conservative-right-wing-policies-are-to-blame-for-trayvon-martins-death/

            This is what happens when the administration wants our cities to burn over a long hot summer in an election year.

          • Interesting. It is incovenient if he is a registered Democrat if indeed Republicans and those on the Right are to be blamed for the shooting. Zimmerman has been increasingly and intensely changing his story as time goes by. I find that suspect.

          • The more we learn the worse it looks for Zimmerman. On the other hand, the race baiters are confusing the issue by bringing in irrelevant conversation. If Zimmerman is convicted, the Sharptons and Jacksons of the world will declare victory and with help from the MSM ensure that the message was that it was a politically/racially motivated act caused by a man who recklessly used a handgun, which of course necessitates a call to more strict gun control laws. Never mind the wholesale black on black slaughter of children in Chicago, Oakland and other cities that should be the subject of intense scrutiny by the so called black community leaders.

            The fact that Zimmerman is a Democrat will disappear down the memory hole.

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