Ever the gracious host, Sean Hannity welcomed radical, anti-American, Islamic cleric Anjem Choudary on Wednesday night. He bid his guest a fond farewell.
“Now here’s the point I’m trying to make to you and I will finish my thought. You believe every woman should wear a burqa. You’re a fascist. You want to ram that down people’s thoats. You want to cut off people’s hands that steal. You want to stone people that commit adultery. You want to rob Israel’s land. And, I believe, but you don’t have the courage to admit it because you are a coward, that you believe that people who killed 3,000 Americans are going to heaven and are going to get 72 virgins. So can you not step back from your sick twisted bizarre ideology here to see that those 3,000 people were innocent victims, sir… You’re one sick, miserable, evil S.O.B but thank you for coming on anyway.“
And don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
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Trust me, alien, I know....I have been places you will never go, nor do you want to. And, that's the funny thing about "beliefs".... Reality is what it is, facts are what they are, what one believes is irrelevant if not based on facts....
Had enough of this thread...I stated facts....I always do....
Necron is right....and I let myself get sucked into it..... Done now... Have fun with your beliefs....I have your back "if" it becomes necessary.....
All right y'all, I really wish you well. I'll part with this for a spell:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/stand-freedom_541404.html
Funny....as I expected, you missed the point.... typical....
I don't drink Beck juice, doing what I do, traveling as I do, making what I do, you don't get a lot of down time....not impressed with your six figures (if that's real), Alien... Nice thing about internet, its available to me, everywhere.... I watch Beck only occasionally, but at least with him, you get truth most of the time. Facts and figures...that's what impresses me...
You keep on ignoring what's going on around you....it's called apathy...which is exactly how we got to this place over the past 60 years, and to this marxist babboon in our white house. If you don't see what is happening right here in our country, well, that makes you just uninformed....like I said, all the info you could possibly wrap your liberal head around is available, if you choose to look for it. Don't think it can't happen here?
Lay down? I think not...I kind of like my toys, you know, and I have lots of them...and didn't say I was scared of anything. You have no idea.....
Then we are in some agreement. No fear... and I have a "toy" too. Where we differ, i think, is in rating odds. You seem to believe that Muslims can actually pull it off, here in the U.S. I do not. Unless they are Allah's Ubermen, they don't have the numbers. They can blow up 10 more skyscrapers, and it won't work.
"We shall go on to the end... We shall never surrender..." I have relatives who remember those words on the radio, during the blitz
I only allude to salary because of your comment: "I doubt seriously you want to give up your welfare big screens, your cars, your government house, your pepsi, and your cheese doodles." You want to paint me as some kind of welfare sucking liberal, and you are dead fukk wrong.
You challenge me that I've never watched Glenn Beck. In fact, you BET me, and you lost that bet. Ok then, screw Glenn Beck. What is it that YOU see out there, in your travels, that has you so rattled about the imminent threat of Caliphate on these shores? What are the facts and figures I'm missing? Maybe as you get around, on your boat, or whatever.. you are catching something I don't.
C. Strasburger, Our little friend Alien just wants an ego stroking and for someone to tell him he's brilliant, insightful, & right. I mean, after all, he make's 6 figures! and anyone who pulls down that kind of jack must be intellectually superior to all those minimum wagers out there... plus, with 6 figures you can buy a hell of a lot of sand to bury your head in. Once you come to grips with the fact that Alien's grasp of reality is stronger than your own (as I and Hisham have, "All hail the 6 figures!") life will be so much simpler and easy to comprehend.
Necron....you're, of course, right... Allowed myself to get sucked in....not the first time. Apathy and ignorance of reality really irritates me....all too common in our world today...and that makes it worse. Sometimes its funny....but none of this today, in any area, is funny. And the ignorance is just sad....
Like I said to our friend, for me, this thread is done...see you in another thread soon!
Please please.. by all means... withhold your, uh.. stroking. Should i just sit back and absorb the repeated and blind accusations of welfare abuse? Cuz i've been getting that crap for weeks. I wonder why
Quell your Beck chalkboard hysteria with this: http://www.globalfirepower.com/navy-aircraft-carriers.asp
His understanding of military strategy is laughable. Even if the Caliphate could arise from the ash heap of history, the territory is overstretched and the logistics impossible. There is a reason its been smashed to the pieces it remains in today.
Have a look around: http://www.globalfirepower.com/aircraft-total.asp
Tell me the United States is not equal to this challenge. Convince me that Beck's "analysis" is based on anything resembling military or geopolitical reality. Add up the economies of the Caliphate countries: http://www.globalfirepower.com/purchasing-power-parity.asp How do they even stack up to a single 1st world nation? Even if the U.S. sits this out, do you think Russia, China, India will sit idly by and let Caliphate rule over all?
Hey hey hey.. its Kaliphate Kool Aid!
Alien, you really are showing your ignorance with this thread, and proving beyond doubt that liberals simply cannot think past tomorrow afternoon. (BTW, liberal legislative policies historically prove it).
Come on son, think, I know its hard for you, but try, K?
Your posting is not worth reviewing because its irrelevant. A caliphate will not come by millions of radical muslims floating across the oceans on little boats....it will come naturally, and right here at home, because they are already here. One of the concerns I have is primarly because our military will not start launching missles into the US to wipe out radicals...when they begin their lunacy (i.e., like you little mindless liberals) with their imminent violent protests, as seen happening in Egypt, it will just get worse and worse, again, as seen in Egypt. And, frankly, throughout Europe today. This is how the caliphate begins....all in the name of democracy! Creating chaos throughout the world, and our leaders in DC are to spineless to do anything about it, because it would not be politically correct. By the time they realize what is happening, its too late.
Yes, if you do a little research, the data is out there, the islamofacists, and the liberal facists around the world are partnering today to cause this chaos...the problem is, the liberal facists are too stupid to see how this nightmare, and it will be, is going to affect them... If they are successful, through their proven partnership, liberals will become their target....you see, as much as you mindless cretans talk about your disdain for capitalism, I doubt seriously you want to give up your welfare big screens, your cars, your government house, your pepsi, and your cheese doodles. Under islamic rule, all that goes out the window, but it was acquired through capitalism, you know, money. Government programs will go away...because under their rule, everyone suffers, no one works, really, and that leads to no taxes....hence, no welfare checks! See how this works? Although you liberals have no idea, obviously, most people in muslim countries live at or below poverty level...though the way they structure the term "poverty", is WAY different than we do here. Point is all those luxuries we take for granted will no longer exist...and then what are you going to do? No cheese doodles? WTF?
Alien, you need to grow a brain, and soon. You may not like Beck, but then, I'd bet you've not once watched or listened to him....and likely all due to the fact that your mindless liberal leaders tell you not too...hence the name I like to use to describe you people, lemmings. All he does is discuss history, and point out facts you are not hearing from your Matrix. And all of the info is easily researchable....and he even tells you where if you can't find it yourself....
Don't believe him, he doesn't want you take his word......he wants to find the facts for yourself.....and the facts are pretty easy to find.....across the board....... Not advocating Beck or anyone else for that matter....but if you do a little homework, lots of this you can find for yourself...
Yes, i did watch Beck and Rosenberg play Risk with Muslim countries on their chalkboard. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/beck-rosenberg-explain-the-new-caliphate/ They are talking about Caliphate overseas..
You can't even get facts about me straight. I make six figures and have never taken a dime of welfare or any kind of government assistance. I don't believe in handouts. I bought my big ass TV.
WTF?? is up with the cheese doodles?
So, pops, are you going to lay down arms and let this phantom Caliphate arise here? You don't think Americans would fight? What's got you so scared, huh? I have mormon and hindu and atheist neighbors who wouldn't give up. My boys wouldn't give up.
Do you think the projected Muslim population in the U.S. will outpace the Catholic Hispanics? Or Mormons? Think THEY'LL surrender?
This whole thing only works if you expect surrender, after all. And if keep drinking Beck juice
Every time I see this guy I can't help thinking it's Ajay Naidu in a fake beard doing a comedy bit.
"Hannity is right. You can live under Sharia just fine as long as you obey Sharia. If you do not obey Sharia you are dead or imprisoned… possibly more dead than imprisoned."
KQ, you don't ever want to have to live under Shari'a. Shari'a is all encompassing, it includes civil behavior, religious doctrine, political discourse, education, military, governance, thought, law, morality, and more. You would be considered a third class citizen, (muslim women would be second class), and you would be forced to pay Jizziya, (tribute, a head tax on free non-Muslims under Muslim rule). If you so much as think a word or action against the prophet Mohammed you could be hung, or cruxified, or beheaded, or stoned to death by a Shari'a court for breaking one of their many blasphemy laws. No, you don't ever want to have to exist under Shari'a. I say exist because it won't be life as you know it, unless you convert to Islam and they won't let everyone who wants to convert to Islam convert. If they did that, who would pay the Jizziya?
Nah... I will be dead plain and simple. If a Muslim man tries to rape/marry me I will be killed because I will destroy his private parts. If a person tries to convert me to Islam they will behead me because I will say no thank you. Overall the only way that I will be alive is because as you mentioned they need people to work like an ass in order to support their economies and it is better business to keep the infidels alive than not. However if any of them put their hands on me they will either die or be infirmed and that will be the end of me and so... whatever. I hate Islam (I dont hate all Muslims just the extremists and terrorists, but the religion I hate). I have no idea how things will definetly play out, but the 12th Iman will either be the Antichrist, or he will be a tool in the Antichrist's hands. I want nothing to do with Islam, Mohamed can kiss my behind.
Yeah, a convert to Hishamism! Or maybe I got that backwards.
Does this mean that Muslim and Christian eschatology intersect at some point? Interesting. I know at some point you have said that Islam may be a corrupted work of Satan
Huh? What does the end of the world have to do with Mo kissing Kimmy's butt?
My advice is to please ignore the ET. He has become obsessed with me in the past few days. I ignore his posts, they are not worthy of my time. Since I consider time valuable that is why I advice that.
Barb, if I may and only if you are interested of course, please listen to Beck for the next few days (I think he is still talking about it or go to his website he may have previous episodes there) and I would recommend individual study on Islam. I would suggest reading up on the 12th Imam. If you have a Bible, please refer to the Prophets Isaiah, Zechariah, Ezekiel, Daniel. Also refer to Matthew 23 or 24 and of course Revelations. Sometimes things don't need to spelled out to make educated conclusions or have theories that the 12 iman's role may have in world events. If you read both where Muslims (especially the militants stand on it) and read what the Prophets and Apostles have to say about end of times events it is very chilling.
I personally estimate that the Antichrist could be him (the 12 Iman) and the World Power that many believe would be a new Rome is actually a new Caliphate that this time around will spread worldwide. Before it was stationery in North Africa, Arab countries of course and some parts of Europe like Turkey, but then of course it was destroyed. This time it may spread worldwide even to countries that you would never thought of it possible.
The President of Iran prays at the UN every time he appears to ask Allah to bring down hell on the infidels in order for the 12th Iman to make his appearance. Since as I conjecture Satan likes to appropriate things of G-d and make counterfeit versions of the procedures of G-d, it is my estimation the 12th Iman/The Antichrist is a counterfeit version of Messiah Prince (Jesus). However, I don't see why the he being Muslim would order the destruction of the Temple on the Hill in Jerusalem in order to rebuild the Temple of the Jews...
So... if the 12 Iman is NOT the Antichrist and indeed the world Power is in essence Rome II as many have predicted for centuries, then the 12th Iman could be a tool in the Antichrist's hands, he could be defeated by the Antichrist (and his army) in order to bring "peace" to the world. People will be very grateful for the destruction of what I believe will be a very dangerous man and that could start the entire process described in Matt 23 or 24 and so on where the Antichrist seeks to rebuild the Temple in order to get himself worshipped by people.
It is interesting to study even if just for curiosity sakes...
According to Scripture, the Antichrist will be a dynamic leader that first swoons the Jews, as they believe him to be their long-awaited "Messiah". He comes in his own name, not the name of Almighty God.
This Antichrist finds a way to negotiate a great peace that no one prior to him could ever have negotiated. His right hand man will be a prophet which will gain worldwide recognition as a prophet because of false "signs and wonders". One is a ruler/politician, the other is a religious "magician". The ruler has the acceptance of Israel and rebuilds the temple in Jerusalem and reinstates sacrifice.
According to the Bible these two are so amazing and charismatic that the entire world will follow after them, except what the Bible calls the "Elect" which the passage insinuates "If it were possible" to be deceived.
My point in all this is to mention the "12th Imam". No it is not a "Biblical" title necessarily, but the idea that a great "prophet" should arise that is acceptable to the Moosies, and a great ruler that should have the support of Jewish people everywhere is feasible and would seem to do the trick with regards to working out a 'peace'.
Incidently, the next chapter of the story is, a short while into this wack-tard's reign, he begins to actually believe he is the Messiah and then demands that people worship his image (or the image of the Beast - its up for debate, which one) the Jewish people realize that this guy is truly a wack-tard and jump off the happy wagon and then all hell on Earth breaks loose from there.
The method of persecution/execution for not being down with the wack-tard, is, you guessed it: beheading. Sound like a Moosie political system? It sure does.
Thanks Kimmy. I'll make sure to catch up with Beck online. I'm running a bit late in ... well, just about everything.
And I love your nickname for the Alien! LOL!
P.S. But I'd still love to see Mo kiss your butt.
Barb this may help: http://www.watchglennbeck.com/ if it changes tomorrow look up by dates on the left side of the screen (02/08). From minute 32-38 is interesting especially the trailer for the "Caliphate" Conference that happened in Illinois in 2009. He does speak of the 12th Imam today. The CIA has a report on a world wide caliphate that is actually true. I am having a hard time accessing the website that he was talking about but it is still there: http://www.khilafah.com/index.php/the-khilafah/khilafah/9939-cias-2020-vision-for-the-future-caliphate-is-short-sighted
I hope that helps and I am glad that you were open to it...
I really am not obsessed with her, but she can enjoy her fantasy
LOLOL. Have a good evening!
I got no respect for Mohammed. He was a murderer and a freak. According to rumors he would kiss it if I was a young boy.
Beck has been good with the information on the 12th Iman and it can of course be backed up.
Bible says nothing about 12th Imam, unless i'm mistaken
You are....see my post above.....
Alien, please don't speak in riddles. I live in a seriously cold place and I have to devote most of my brain cells to keep from freezing. Please have pity on me and speak plainly.
The discussion is about Sharia. Do you have anything to offer in the debate? You for it? Agin it? Don't give a shit?
I am trying to figure out why people are taking this 12th Imam stuff seriously? Its all Koran. By all appearances, Islam looks to be the most dangerous faith on the planet. They have a violent extreme, and a passive majority too cowed or complacent to put an end to it. But 12th Imam as Antichrist I don't get. I know its what Beck has been talking about, but since half the idea is taken from Koran, i don't understand why its credible. Its delusion not prophecy
Why people are taking this 12th Imam stuff seriously?
Allow me to quote Sun Tzu, "Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster."
I'd buy this if the 12th Imam were real, but he's not, and he won't be. You can't even get agreement in the world of Islam about him. Some think he already came and went in the 9th Century.
The Caliphate is done. It couldn't avoid fracturing and infighting with any great success. It couldn't survive the Turks, barbaric horsemen of the steppes, newly crazed with Koran, who devoured a swath of a squabbling Byzantine Empire on their way to Fatimid plunder in Egypt.
Seljuk Turk succumbs to Ottoman, more infighting. THAT resultant Empire was stopped cold after advancing into Christendom, and never recovered. Sad pockets of Islam are dropped off in places like Bosnia on the way out. Remember Kosovo and St. Vitus Day, Vienna and the Holy League, and how things turn. Europe and the West are finally rising, their science and economies leaping far beyond the civilizations of the East.
Does anything happening today make you think Islam is a credible threat to our existence? They have little recourse but insurrection and asymmetrical warfare. Do you think the U.S. military studies terrorists and rogue nations, or does it study prophecies? If they strike us with a nuke, I tell you now, Mecca is done.
If I am naive, then you are paranoid. Fearing Caliphate is like fearing the resurrection of Imperial Rome.
The resurrection of Imperial Rome... Now that I would welcome!
yummy downvotes. Does this mean that Muslim eschatology should not be taken seriously? Or that Islam is not a work of Satan?
Alien, do you know anything about islam, its spread, shariah, or for that matter, anything related to reality?
For you, that was a rhetorical question....you really don't need to answer.....
Of course i do. I have mourned the loss of Byzantium in my heart. I have felt rage over the Prophet's mad followers sweeping desert sands, to cut out the throats of unbelievers. I have felt pride swelling at the memory of Tours and Venice, as the advance of Muslim hordes into Europe were blocked by sword and cross. I weep at the thought of caged little girls, acid thrown in their faces for daring to walk to school
I also have no fear that Shari'a will ever be law in the land.. not in a million years
Thumbs up for the first part being very poetic...
Thumbs down for the last sentence being very naive.
It is not naivety, it is defiance. Do you seriously think these United States will succumb to Shari'a law?
The best they can do is slip a nuke into one of our cities.. then, i imagine, all bets are off on Mecca
I'm certain there were a great many people in Syria, Armenia, Egypt, North Africa, Cyprus, Constantinople, Spain, Georgia, southern Italy, Persia and Iraq, Afghanistan, India, the Caucasus, Nubia, Anatolia, etc. etc. that felt as you do and were filled with the same vim and vigor... yet still they fell.
Normandy, Venice, Poland, Austria, Bavaria, Saxony, Great Britain, Sikh and Punjab. Russian Orthodoxy, Holy Roman Empire, Hindu rebellion, Crusaders Kings and Popes. Remember those who resisted and defeated the hordes of the Prophet.
Charles Martel, Merovingian King of Franks, taught the Umayyad Caliph humility, as did the Byzantines. The Mongols slew a Caliph in Baghdad.
Constantinople threw off multiple Arab sieges, holding the Virgin Mary high upon the walls in defiance. Only infighting and Venetian/Crusader treachery weakened the empire sufficiently for the Turk advance centuries later. We owe them a debt for stopping Arab advance into Dark Ages Europe.
Poor Persia fell because it had been hobbled by wars with Heraclius. China so overawed Arab ambassadors that they didn't even make the attempt.
Look upon the map left over from Islam's advance. It did little but squeeze through the cracks of greater powers, confined to desert and rock and island nations torn from rulers unable to defend their overseas possessions. Their sprawling "dominion" lies fractured to-this-day by acts of Colonial Powers. The GLOBAL Muslim economy barely matches 1/3 of Europe's alone. Secularization and modernization continually threaten the fabric of their most oppressed societies.
They seethe, like a swarming hive. But they are weak. While they are desperate, we are vigilant. We can deliver fiery death to any point on the planet, while they must skulk into planes and carry bombs on their bodies like kamikazes or Soviet tank dogs.
No military in history has so handily defeated them on the field as our own.
PRO PATRIA VIGILANS
To quantify your little liberal brain waves, you are right on both counts. Whatever you little "counts" are anyway.
you are deluded if you think me liberal
I don't like Hannity. I keep a Sirius subscription just so I can listen to Wilkow during the afternoon drive home. That being said . . . he did a marvelous job here. Kudos to him!
Hannity is right. You can live under Sharia just fine as long as you obey Sharia. If you do not obey Sharia you are dead or imprisoned... possibly more dead than imprisoned.
Okay. Behavior reading time:
Starting at about 0:52, when Hannity starts reading the list of "You want..." Look at Choudary. He's nodding his head. Choudary agrees with everything that Hannity is reading there.
Also, starting at 1:32, Choudary starts rattling off a list of "You will have....", but he's shaking his head. He doesn't realize that he's doing it, but he knows that what he's saying is complete BS.
That would be a wonderful piece for Tanya Raidman to look at. Good catch!
Anjem Choudary probably saw Hannity's condemnation as a vindication of his extremist views. Choudary is an English citizen who has praised the 9/11 attackers and favors the imposition of shari'a law on England. He's the poster boy for the utter failure of diversity and multiculturalism. He's a Muslim fifth columnist who should be stripped of his citizenship and deported.