In this clip, talk show host Alex Jones discusses the invasive new “enhanced pat down techniques” brought to you by the TSA.
Let’s make this simple: Should you decide to opt out of the TSA’s new naked body scanners, get ready to get felt up like you’re in the back seat of a ’64 Chevy.
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You are correct it was used from the 20 until the early 60's or before I was born :)
It was banded because the watch painters got sick after they ingested the radium paint. Normal body processes placed the radium into their bones. because radium has a half life of 1601years and it decays by producing alpha particles which is the most damaging form of radiation but least penatrating their radiation dose was MASSIVE and exposure time CONSTANT.
In medical imaging and in the airport scanners it is gamma radiation which is far more penatrating but the least damaging. Its all about type, time, distance and shielding.
They used tritium vials. You can still get them in the US. Luminox makes them and others. Google "Tritium Watches" and you can see what I mewan.0
http://www.gemday.com/item0309.htm
Most nowadays use a luminous coating that has to be charged with light before they glow and most don't glow for long.
The tritium usually lasts about 10 years before it loses its glow.
I'd doubt there's enough radiation to bother anyone.
unless it is ingested
You make work in radiology ( and your buds have irradiated me accidentally on more than one occasion)
That is quite the acusation. IF true then your should report that to risk management and corrective action should be taken.
but I am the Nurse who cares for the radiation sickness,
Really? Has an atom bomb gone off in the U.S. or were you a first responder for the victims of Hiroshima? Because it would take a friggin MASSIVE dose of radiation to cause hundreds of millions of individual cells in a given bodily organ to die off and cause said organ to fail. You simply aren't going to get enough medical X-rays, CT's or Nuclear Medicine studies in your lifetime to cause that!
Why are you so hard on Deb? I understood her to be saying that she has been trained for, and would take care of people with radiation sickness, not that she is doing it all the time. Seriously, if that happened, it'd be all over the news, and there's no reason to hack on a person for not being 100% totally correct.
People are way too paranoid about radiation -- so paranoid that they are not able to deal rationally with what they actually experience. In addition, some medical equipment has problems -- what she is saying may have some validity without requiring a duel at twenty paces to resolve. You obviously know something about radiation and are a professional about it, and so rather than pound on her and get a pissing match going, do us all a favor and educate.
Ok let’s start with this. There are three most common types of radiation, alpha, beta and gamma.
Alpha is the MOST DAMAGING but the LEAST PENETRATING. A mere sheet of paper can shield you from it.
Gamma is the reverse. It is the LEAST DAMAGING but the MOST PENETRATING. Shield with lead.
Beta is in the middle. SOMEWHAT DAMAGING and SOMEWHAT PENETRATING. Shield with plastic.
Gamma is used in medical imaging. So what does it do in the body? It produces what we call “free radical”. What the heck does that mean? In the individual cells it causes the H2 atoms to separate from the O atom. THE VAST MAJORITY of the time (greater than 99%) these free radicals reunite to once again form water and the net effect is ZERO. The risk truly is minimal.
Have you ever had a sunburn bad enough to cause your skin to blister and peel? Probably. That is the first and mildest sign of radiation sickness. Have you ever had an x-ray leave your skin red? Blistered? Peeling? Probably not. And how many have you had? Including x-ray, CT, MRI and Nuclear Medicine studies? I am licensed in both nuclear medicine and CT.
Nuclear medicine is different from other modalities in radiology in that x-ray, CT andMRI look at the structure of the anatomy, where as Nuclear Medicine looks at function. Does the organ work the way it is supposed to? I hope none of you need my services in Nuclear medicine because that would mean that you are already very sick. Coronary disease, lung disease, liver disease, uncontrolled vomiting, cancer, etc.,etc. I wouldn’t want to meet any of you under those circumstances.
Yes, our machines sometimes have issues that is why we test them daily (through a series of tests actually) before we ever place a patient under the camera. And if it isn’t working properly we don’t use it. We reschedule the patient if we have to and they get all pissed off at us and that is understandable. But hey, gotta do what we gotta do.
drb,
Perhaps you can explain why they outlaw glow in the dark watches which used radium, from what I recall.
I always get a kick out of us being denied conveniences, such as those radium dial watches, while on the other hand, we are told the stuff is harmless.
Perhaps a bit more consistency and honesty from government would make us all feel a bit more comfortable. These mixed messages sure don't.
I am unaware that glow in the dark watches are made of radium, I'm pretty sure phosphorus is used. And I got one for christmas last year so when did they get outlawed?
The difference between "was" used and 'is' used is substantial. Many years ago, they hands and numbers would stay very bright, all of the time (radium). The ones now are, for the most part, good for a couple of hours after they have sat in bright light for a while.
The is a world of difference between the two.
Uh oh! Now I now why the TSA people were rolling on the ground laughing last time I flew someplace.
Kimmie, there's no radiation coming out of your computer. You know the x-ray machines that they use at the hospital? These body scanners are much stronger and the radiation only hits the surface of your skin. At the hospital, you wear a lead jacket to cover up the non-necessary portions of your body because the risk of cancer is so high. If your family has a history of skin cancer and you travel a lot, you're increasing your risk substantially. Read up on these things before you make ignorant comments.
And everyone in the hospitals has a badge that monitors their radiation dose, which is cumulative. Why should I add an unknown amount of radiation to my system, whenI already have many years of multiple x-rays behind me? How much will sort of tip my tolerance over the edge? I also have some concerns over the "saving" of images. Why? Why are they only kept until the plane successfully reaches its destination? What happens if health problems preclude the use of the scanner and religious beliefs prevent the usage of this very intrusive pat down? What do they do then? Hand you a bus ticket?
HHT and Deb,
Stop eating bananas then. The bodily process of digesting a banana produces radiation. In fact if you eat a banana and then hold up x-ray film to your belly, you expose the film and you can see the mashed up banana in your stomach. No other radiation from an x-ray machine needed. We are surround by radiation. It comes from the very ground you walk on, the sun, the TV, and yes your computer.
"And everyone in the hospitals has a badge that monitors their radiation dose, which is cumulative"
Not everyone in the hospital...just those who fall under the catagory of radiology, such as myself.
The conversation referred to radiological services and commented on the use of lead aprons. That is the reference I made to "everybody/" I am well aware that there is radiation everywhere. Since the effects of radiation are cumulative, and cannot be reversed, one must be cautious about adding unncessary radiation to our dose. I cannot escape the soil and air around me, but I seriously limit beng in the sun. I cannot control irradiated food that I eat (simply because they refuse to label it as such). I cannot control the radiation inmy tv or microwave. But I can control unnecessary x-rays, other exposures, so I do. That is all I am recommending. You make work in radiology ( and your buds have irradiated me accidentally on more than one occasion) but I am the Nurse who cares for the radiation sickness, and I will do what it takes to prevent that in me and my family.
Many years ago (back in the fifties), shoe stores had these x-ray boxes to see how your new shoes fit. You slid your feet into an opening at the bottom of the box, then pushed a button. You saw your shoes, your feet, and, your bones. You could see if the shoes were too tight, or, too loose.
Now, I realize that they have improved technology, but they have not improved radiation. They removed those boxes from shoe stores sometime in the late fifties or early sixties. It seems that they thought that they were dangerous.
Though we get radiation from many sources, there has been a tendency to cut back on the amount of exposure, even in the dentist office. The cumulative effects are what has become a concern. If you fly occasionally, and you are willing to tolerate the invasion of your privacy, radiation is probably not of concern, unless you are frequently exposed by other sources. Then, the only issue, and I believe the primary concern, is, and should be, invasion of privacy.
On the other hand, radiation may be of concern to those mentioned, though it should not be a concern to that occasional flyer. However, the reason for rejecting the scanning is simple, we pass laws against peeping toms, even if you are only wearing a nightgown. We should we mandate legal peeping toms who are allowed to do, since they work for the government, what you would be arrested for?
Meh. Dose makes the poison. You get a nice shot of radiation from flying, too, and you don't see them ugly-assed flight attendants wearing lead suits, even though it'd improve the aesthetics...
All's I know is they ain't getting my bananas.
[crazy theory time] remember when they were all young, sweet hotness, and we called them stewardesses? Maybe all that radiation... Nah. Political correctness in the workplace did that. Libs love to steal the joy out of life, keep anything beautiful hidden from sight. That leads to crazy theory #2 -- maybe that's why the libs love them their muslims -- they want all women dressed under those Hefty Garbage Bag things so men won't look at them...[/crazy theory time]
I'm absolutely appalled by this. I'm flying down to Vegas to spend Thanksgiving with friends and I'm thinking it might be the last time I fly.
They are indeed winning the war without firing a single shot.
Every time I fly, I get singled out for "special" scanning--while women in burquas with dynamite hanging out of their carry-on bags are waved right through. The last time I flew, the TSA lesbo went WAY too far for a first date--I usually hold out for dinner, roses and a ring before someone does what she did. I'm driving from now on--even gas station rest rooms don't make me feel that dirty!
I stopped flying years ago (about 2001) when I was taking a one way trip to Phoenix to rent a truck and move some furniture to my new home. Since it was one way, I think I was subjected to the then "security" measures. When I got my boarding pass, the lady drew a smiley face on it. This seemed rather curious until I found out what it meant. When I got to security, the lady saw the smiley face and said, "stand in that line". Well, that line was the line for bad guys. They went through my carry on, shoes off and inspected, and a simple pat-down. That was it for me, The rather arrogant use of the smiley face and making me feel that I was in a third world country (chickens and pigs on the roof, please), was my last flight on commercial aircraft.
Now, we all know what Franklin said about Liberty and security, yet so many continue to fly. What would happen if those offended by this activities stopped flying? What do you think that airlines would lobby for if they lost, say, 20% of their customers?
If you are willing to give up your liberty for a rather ambiguous security, then, well, you don't have the stripe that the Founders did when they refused to drink tea.
And I'll bet you can't do either exam on Muslims, since it offends their cultural sensibility. When they deliver babies in American hospitals there are all kinds of hoops to jump through because they don't want males in the delivery, and they don't want to be exposed (it is really difficult to deliver under a blanket). So I cannot feature Muslims allowing this. Besides, we are to teach our kids to report anyone touching them in their "private places." What do they think about a stranger feeling them up in an airport? How do we begin to explain that to our children!
They SHOULDN'T be patting down children... that is disgusting. I do believe that certain people groups would be exempt as well and that is not right.
Now, what if I show up to the airport in my leopard skin speedo? Will I still have to walk through the scanners?
Might depend on any suspicious bulges.
Or which way the pat-down person swings. :-)