Former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney: Gaddafi-style socialism will solve America’s problems

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• The ones who destroyed US economy were whites and juice (Bush, Silverstein, Giuliani, Cheney, Rothschilds, Rockefellers etc.). During Clinton era the US economy had zero debt, now it is 14 trillion in deep debt and fast rising and if by some miracle USA paid its all debts now it would become a Third World country (culturally and morally it has always been such) overnight and U.S. GDP per capita would drop from today's (fake, bloated figure that actually is more like $18,000) $46,000 to a mere $2500 at best. No kidding.

  • That entire statement was idiotic on so many levels of idiocy that I am not even sure where to begin... Juice? really? wow you are indeed a moron.

    Thanks for your "concern", now go away.

    • It's Olivia's male side speaking to us.

  • Not only are you an antisemitic bigot, you're just plain wrong about the Clinton "balanced budget". It was only balanced if you ignored what they were borrowing from social security.

• USA is a failed state, because your education and your corporate fascist system is going to destroy yourselves.

• Cynthis needs to go back to Libya permanently and take all her parisites with her, would cut our deficit by 95%!

• Cynthia: Hi I'm Cynthia McKinney, a former congressperson from Georgia.

  Translator: We could care less who this fool is but she is either a do gooder from Hollywood or a left over groupie from Obama's "Cairo tour".

  Cynthia: I'm here today to tell you all Americans aren't evil like George Bush.

  Translator: We dressed her up in this rediculous outfit just to see if she knew we were screwing with her.

  Cynthia: Your system of government is so superior to ours.

  Translator: You should have seen the shit she ate for dinner last night. We scraped a camel turd off the road and told her it was Egyptian caviar. She asked for seconds.

  Cynthia: If you could just wage more war on those evil conservatives....

  Translator: Jimmy Carter...remember that fool... and John Kerry, the one who served in Viet Nam....yeah....they don't hold a candle to this idiot.

  Cynthia: We really are sorry for all the pain we have caused you.

  Translator: That's it for tonight my fellow jihadist. Thanks Cynthia for being on this episode of "American Dumbass".

• BTW, where's you know who? You'd think she'd be all over this one; kind of like bees on honey, or flies on sh......well anyway...

• This shows how Mckinney will do anything for gadaffy money.What a hateful piece of trash.Mckinney would look much better in a straight jacket

• I too find the comments offensive. If all you can see is skin color and nothing more then you are truly blind to what is the real issue. Socialist and or communist are what she is. She is crazy and a traitor, right up there with Jane Fonda.

  Treason use to carry some very stiff penalties and its time to bring that back.

• Can we get past this? Can people just get over it? My great grandmother was in a holocaust camp, tattoos and all. I don't hate Germans now. It's high time we move past this era of race baiting, of race cards, of race period. Blacks are not the enemy. Jews are not the enemy. Whites are not the enemy. Proponents of socialism, reduced liberties, and overreaching government are, no matter their color.

  • The only thing you left out was religious fanatics. More people have been killed in the name of "religion" than all the wars modern man has died in over political differences.

    • That is not true. It is a lie that has continued to exist in order to validate agnostic or atheistic beliefs. More people have actually died in the name of political ideologies. In fact political/social ideologies co-opting and abusing religious institutions in order to validate their positions.

      Interestingly enough just in the name of Islam perhaps one cannot say that more people have died, but again interestingly enough Islam is both a religion and a political/social structure. When a religion becomes a political/social structure that controls all aspects of life, that becomes a problem, but those are never successfully permanent... the only exception, again interestingly enough is Islam.

      Legitimate sources can conjecture that under the Crusades started by Muslims (interesting) 3-7 million people died over a very long span of decades. In the end, the Crusades were about political and societal control using religion as a means to obtain it. Religion was co-opted and debased not the other way around (religion co-opting and debasing politics). Those who died during the decades spanning Inquisitions could be counted within 70 to 200 thousand people and most of those who died where actually Jews and Christians so it was a war from a political/societal force co-opting a major religion against those who did not want their religious beliefs to be part of a political machine. Catholic rule in England during the years of Henry the Eight and his daugther Mary Tudor killed many Protestants who reviled Catholicism rule and the practices that were not Biblical. Queen Elizabeth I ended this with her Protestant rule. Witch hunting was probably hundreds to few thousands in the US and thousands to hundred of thousands in Europe. These witches were in their majority also jews, christians and those who spoke against the political structure of the day. Many millions died under Catholic rule in Spanish speaking American continents both natives and Africans and that was about political power. So is it really in the name of religion... or is it in the name of politics (using religion as a weapon)?

      Now let's turn our attention to agnosticism, atheism, G-d haters, socialism, nazism, communism, marxism, liberalism, progressivism and darwinism.

      Hitler hated Jews and Christians (and everyone else for that matter). He was heavily influenced by Nietzsche, Marxism, progressivism, darwinism and he was a person that knew that G-d existed, but hated that G-d existed. In comparison to all other wars, murders, persecution in the name of religion so to speak... Hitler masterminded and in effect ordered the murder of 11-14 million people, decimating the world wide jewish population. The war that he CAUSED killed an estimated 35-70 million people!

      Pol Pot's rule (communist, atheist and so on and so forth) and organizations friendly to his "cause" were guilty of estimated 1.5-3 million people. Stalin (communist and I believe also an atheist) it is impossible to estimate how many people he and his government killed through war, through famine, through incarceration, through torture for all his years of power. If anything the entire country suffered one way or another those who actually died can be anything within 20-50 million people. That is insane.

      Other than the Crusades which again where started by Muslims, nothing in the name of religion (so to speak) comes close to the numbers of deaths by far more RECENT governments and individuals who hated G-d, or denied His existence or were communists/socialists/marxists/darwinists/progressives/etc.

      These days the biggest persecutors and murderers of people in the world is Fundamental Islam and even though horrible the numbers of death by the hands of Muslim Fundamentalists is no where near Hitler or Stalin's numbers.

      • Great post KimmyQueen.
        Glad I saw it.

        • Thank you!

      • Hitler believed deeply in Divine Providence. He was raised in an extremely strict religious family. His father resorted to violence in discipline and nearly killed the boy at one point. I do not attempt to conflate abuse here with Christianity. Hitler appears, instead, to break with Christ over time, but never Providence.

        To Hitler the scope of this divine guidance grows mightily over the years. He exalted in his early ability to be ringleader among the boys at school. He yearned to return Austria to the German fatherland. As a messenger on the Western front in WW1, he survives several spectacular incidents of combat, and boasts of being protected by God's hand.

        At the end of that war, he even interprets gas induced blindness as yet more Providence. God has literally chosen a new people, the German volk. Not only had the scattered race of Jews failed God, they had also sabotaged Germany's victory in War. Every setback and perceived act of grace only furthered his conviction that he served God's will.

        If he ever hated God, it would only be at the bitter forsaken end, as his conquests fall to Allied might.

        Let me be clear. I believe in victory Hitler would've sought to supplant the Christ in his new Germania. He is decidedly UnChristian in the end. Nothing short of a new faith built around him as the prime agent of God would have sufficed.

        • LOL okay you go on and believe that from the atheistic websites... good for you.

          If anything the one religion he liked was Islam for obvious reasons. However regardless of upbringing (if you were born into a christian home and are now an atheist the point has been made and if not you personally it happens all the time), he became a G-d hating individual. His god for all purposes was not the G-d of the Jews and Christians, the god was himself and if anything it was a demonic situation. So this "divine providence" theory does not come forward from a Christian point of view on his part. If anything it may have come from a demonic point of view.

          He wasn't a Christian, he wasn't a Catholic and he wanted to do nothing with religion (although he did have an interested point with Islam). He wanted to co-opt, abuse and utilize it as a weapon against people. He made a mockery of religion, churches and great numbers of christians died under his rule.

        • "He wanted to co-opt, abuse and utilize it as a weapon against people."

          That describes libschizoisme very well. Atheistoliberals may hate christianity but still shamelessely abuse it to justifie their own, seriously retarded beliefs of a future global tolerastic orgy.
          They try the same thing with socialism and the theory of evolution. "You gotta understand, no regime in the world was ever socialist or communist, only fake ones. Because they never subscriber to our beliefs of what communism and socialism truly was, which is the right one.
          Obviously, we, the basement-dwellers and wiggers of the west knows Karl Marx and Engele way better than Lenin or Stalin ever did!"

        • One of my favorite Ronald Reagan quotes:

          ""How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist?
          It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin."

          If a person truly understand the underlying truths of these belief system they will fight against it not for it.

        • I said he was decidedly UnChristian in the end, did I not?

          I don't frequent athiestic websites, but I did read "Adolf Hitler" (Toland) and most of Mein Kampf (which believe it or not is a tiresome read). There is much nonsense about Jewish Peril and nothing about The Prophet or Koran. Sure the Nazis enlisted muslim fighters on the eastern front.. (Soviets had many enemies). But it stretches credulity to view his preferred religion as Islam

        • The point is that he was never a true Christian to begin with. No one that has a true Christian base would end up doing what he did, the Bible (OT/NT) is very clear on that issue.

          In order for your divine providence to make sense you have to belief that Hitler was a true Christian at some point in his time and then he somehow changed out of it into unchristianity. That doesnt make sense. You just don't stop being a Christian, you are either a Christian or you aren't. Those who are hypocrites in all reality are not Christians they are just people who wanted to use the name of Christianity for their own nefarious purposes.

          At first Hitler was all kissy kissy with the churches, but it was all for show (like someone else I know who is considered to be an empty suit). He said the right words, but he never came from a true Christian base.

          Atheists want to prove that he was a Christian (at some point) in order to prove that he wasn't an atheist or a G-d hating man in order to feel better about the fact that one of their own did not have what it took to murder all of those people.

          I find that rather sad. If I can accept that there is no perfection in Christianity which in reality is not possible to accomplish in this imperfect world (but we try and it will be accomplish at some point in time), I would believe that atheists and G-d hating individuals would at least just admit that Hitler was one of you and that he did do what he did because he hated everyone and everything that got in his way.

          I also read believe it or not.

          "Had Charles Martel not been victorious," Hitler told his inner crowd in August 1942, "then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world." Hitler told Mr. Speer that Islam is to the Germanic temperament."

          Albert Speer, the Nazi minister for armaments, recalled in his diary: "It was almost as if [Hitler] was in a delirium when he described to us how New York would go up in flames. He imagined how the skyscrapers would turn into huge blazing torches. How they would crumble while the reflection of the flames would light the skyline against the dark sky." Hitler hated Manhattan. It was, he said, "the center of world Jewry." Less than 60 years later, Hitler's plans were executed by Muslim immigrants living in Germany. At the 2003 trial of the network around Mohamed Atta (the pilot who flew into the World Trade Center), Shahid Nickels, a German convert to Islam and a friend of Atta's, said that the Islamists had targeted Manhattan because it is "the center of world Jewry, and the world of finance and commerce controlled by it."

          How can it defy credulity if the man himself said it? As described by a colleague who heard it from the man's own mouth?

        • I'm not an athiest. You keep saying that.. I am not trying to defend athiests

          My use of the word Providence is not meant as a marker for Christianity, either. It simply is the word that Hitler returned to over and over, in his writings and in speeches. He clearly believed himself to be guided by the Divine. He employed language which, I agree, indicate some drift away from Christianity. My musings on Hitler's sense of mythos are not meant as an attack on Christianity.

          I vaguely recall the scene you depict, regarding Muhammadanism, and I also recall that Hitler felt that naturally Germanic peoples would've overthrown their racially inferior Arab conquerors. He had great respect for martial cultures. He bored his advisors on many occasions with his what if scenarios that went back millennia, as he sought to visualize Teutonic supremacy. In childhood he obsessed over Bismark and lamented Austria's lack of participation in German victories. He highly revered the British Empire, wished to avoid war there, and sought to model Germany's own after it, after achieving victory in Europe (this did not at all stop the Blitz, however).

          He also regretted that the Germans did not have a religion more like Japan's, on several occasion. He thought Christianity was "too soft"..

          It really all goes back to his experience on the Western Front.. His multiple near death experiences fully convinced him that God shielded him and had plans for him

          What God? I don't know. I'm agnostic

        • Then his interpretation of Divine is a mockery or a perversion of true divinity. Other than Allah no other deity searches for the destruction of human beings. So his perversion in all reality stems from an evil nature. His god then was Satan or a demon. Satan likes to perverse true divinity so it would make sense. It has nothing to do with a righteous deity, it had everything to do with an unrighteous deity, so atheists who claim he was a Christian and from there it stems his ideologies are dead wrong.

          Oh I see... now you vaguely remember that when you couldn't stretch "credulity to view his preferred religion as Islam" before. Right. Regardless I was correct. He did prefer Islam over Christianity/Judaism and he did like Eastern philosophies because a lot of them do not deal with the issues of evil. Even if he believed that he could have overtook the Arabs (and he believed the same of the Japanese), if he was going to chose a religion to implement Islam would have been one of his first choices. The fundamentalist nature of it protects his theories about the expendabilities of certain humans to a T.

        • My only argument is that he was not an athiest. Of course his interpretation of Providence, to which he repeatedly referred, was twist-ified and evil. He believed that something guided him, and you may believe that was in fact Satan, which is fine. I am not an athiest trying to pin Christianity on Hitler

          The scene to which you refer is one that I've taken in the context of Hitler's general musings about various martial cultures. He was not talking about Germany's future but a what if scenario turning on the fate of Tours..

          In fact, in the very same scene he immediately speaks of Germanic overthrow of conquering muslims..

          For theirs was a religion that believed in spreading the faith by sword and subjugating all nations to that faith. The Germanic people would have become heirs to that religion. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the Germanic temperament. Conquering Arabs because ot their racial inferiority would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans would have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Europe.

          And this helps your case against those who want to pin it on Christianity..

          "You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"

          This is a man talking about conversions which occurred many centuries before his day. He repeatedly rails against Charlemagne's violent conversion of Saxons to Christianity. He hates the emphasis on peace that permeates the teachings of Christ.

          He is not someone who is ready to drop everything and begin following The Prophet Muhammad. Madness.. he's going to tell tens of millions of Germans they can't drink? (MADNESS?? THIS IS BAVARIA..!!! [kick])

          Given time and victory, he'd have made himself the godhead of a new teutonic frankenfaith

        • I don't think he had an actual deity, either -- just saw opportunities in being able to control people. Some of the pseudo-religious things they cooked up in the heights of their frenzy were just plain bizarre.

          It's a lot like reading about phrenologists, or even the atlas I had from the 1890's, where everybody in a non-English-speaking country was described as being dirty in some way or another. It wasn't too hard to figure out.

          Plenty of people consider themselves under the rule of "providence" in some way or another. Providence is just another euphemism for a deity -- much as ba'al simply meant "Lord" to the Phoenicians. However, the intention is that their theology is somehow different (this time). When people try to cook up a religion based upon a collection of near-misses and use it as a crass attempt at crowd control, they are dangerous nutters, indeed.

          The moment they try to use religion as a control, they've proved themselves a false prophet.

        • Exactly. It all ends up stemming from an unrighteous place. My point was just that many atheists love to say that he was a Christian as in well he got his ideas from there. He could have very well perverted Christian ideologies to suit his needs and it wouldn't be the first person to do that. It is not in the end the fault of the Christian G-d, in as much the perversion of the freak dictator. He was also into the Greek and Romans deities. He was actually looking for the spear that was plunged on Jesus' side. He was taking the best (to him) from religions around the world to create his own where he was the center. Anyone who disagreed were offed.

        • Right, Providence does map right back to a God (any god(s)) or the Divine.. Its no indictment of Christianity here. It also indicates an active God.. one providing guidance.

          Hitler shed himself of much of his Christianity over time. Christ's teachings are simply not useful to a Nazi imperialist. I am thoroughly convinced victory would have given him room to cobble together a whole new theology, built around his own cult, his own sense of providence, and the supremacy of the germanic people.

          In short.. neither Christian nor Athiest.. just a megalomaniacal fiend

        • for some reason this thing is not letting me edit:

          "... Mr. Speer that Islam is SUITED to the Germanic temperament..."

    • Hence my agnosticism. I would love the whole "GOD HATES YOU BECAUSE YOU DO THIS" to be dropped from the argument. Common sense and an unblinded view of the world prove conservative values to be true, even in the absence of a deity.

      • God hates no man, but he surely turns his supernatural graces from those who despise him. You have to avenues with God: Mercy, or Justice. Me...I err on the side of Mercy...His Justice is forever!

      • There is a line between using religion to personally set yourself free, and using religion as a means to control other people. When it is used as a control mechanism, invariably, it gets ugly.

        The control can be through guilt, hedonism, sex, dogma, whatever.

        I don't throw out religion because it gets misused any more than I will throw out tasty, tasty beer because somebody acts like an ass when they've had too much.

        • Exactly... Human made theocracies are a bad bad idea, Islam is the perfect example of this (in most recent times). Even though culturally speaking Jews are known for their religion it was a good idea not to make Israel a de facto theocracy. Who would claim to speak for their G-d? How can you truly qualify that what is being said is true and not just a mechanism of control? What about those jews who are jews by birth but not by religion?

          So yes I think it is important to make the distinction that you made. In all reality not all religions are the same and also in truth not all religious practitioners are bad or hypocritical.

      • It is not necessarily a deity that is the problem then as per your own post. The problem is the people that propose to follow a certain deity over another. That is the problem of the people, not the problem of the deity per se. I believe that a righteous deity would more than likely revile and condemn those that use his or her name in order to validate violent and evil actions. However with all that said in the end... it is political power and governments that in the end are the biggest enemies of humanity, not religious forces especially when they are righteously executed. The only exception is perhaps Islam but ONLY because it is also a political and gubernamental entity.

• She needs a visit from a smart bomb. It would save the World from having to endure another idiot.

• Lady Haw-Haw.