Katie Couric ends 2010 just as stupid as she began it

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• where would oprah be TODAY if us "crackers" didnt "bring blacks to America?

• So with so many things happening it seems we couldn't give Katie the proper goodbye. She sucked yet she is rich beyond her dreams. Sometimes life can be unfair, but it is all good though at least we don't have to expect hearing from her in a while.

• Did you guys notice how she was looking at the black woman like do you agree with me? She was so non-committal about it too. If people are ignorant there is nothing you can do about it if they are not ready to learn and relying on media or fictional stories is not going to help.

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  • We did a story a couple years ago about the Muslim TV exec in Buffalo, NY who beheaded his wife. Google put a Muslim dating site on the story. We found it so inappropriate and funny that we did a screen cap showing the ad and did a follow up story on it.

• For those of you coming up with clever muslim TV show ideas, we have a new thread for you to go post them in:

  Katie Couric says, “We need a Muslim Cosby Show.” We say, “Here are some free ideas, Hollywood.”

• People like Katy, who grew up in nowhere land and moved to the big city think that exposure and understanding will solve all problems. The Cosby show did NOTHING to change the view of African Americans. It simply made a black family more "white like" in the mind of many Amercians. A real show about blacks in a ghetto, where children cannot play outside, a 10 year old is responsible for caring for 2 younger siblings because Mom works 2 jobs, and drug deals go down outside their home would not have drawn much of an audience. The Huxtables were "clean". Literally just like the white middle class only with darker skin. It is the same with Muslims. Thse who act like us, live like us, and are basically us, but attend a different church (or no church at all) are acceptable. The difference between Muslims who are trying to take over the country (remember, we vote-if enough Muslims come here and obtain citizineship, plus natural birthrates, they can vote in Sharia law and there is nothing anyone can do.) She clearly has never learned anything abut the tenets of Islam. Poor research Katy.

  • Ouch to the thumbs down! I am simply saying that whatever the show was like, many many White Americans wrote it off as an aberration, and continued to feel ALL Blacks are stupid, ALL Blacks are Criminals, and NO Blacks hould be dating thier daughters. Not me, them. My personal physician for some 20years was Black, my son's Godparents are black. I know better.

• Yes she is stupid but look at what she said. What I think she meant is that HER perception of black people in general may have changed because of the show... which tells me that she had negative perceptions about black people in the first place and who knows she may still have them and relies on fictional characters to help her through her issues. Which is indeed all sad for her and makes her even smaller in my eyes.

  The other thing that I perceived is that of course her assumption that MOST (if not all) white people are like her (even if she doesn't admit it about herself). That is to say that most (if not all) white people are inherit racists and they all need to SEE, even if it is fictional, people portraying lifestyles that are seemingly unique for white people (being a professional, mom and dad in the home, etc) in order to ACCEPT black people as normal human beings. That is also sad and disgusting.

  So her assumption is that all non-muslims americans are hateful of ALL muslims (and that is not the truth) leads her to believe that fictional media needs to be invented in order for the stupid masses to be comfortable around muslims. Yes it is all idiotic but there is a lot more there and it is all gross.

  • The Cosby show showed that some black americans can live just like white americans, with the same goals, dreams, and aspirations.

    It worked because of the underlying, fundamental truth in that. Even the most far-out aspects of it is still a uniquely American thing, and the rest of the world does not share that.

    A muslim Cosby show would *never* work, because under the taqqiya covers is enough ugliness utterly alien to Western civilization that it simply will never be compatible with it. Even if people thought it was working, it would only work like propaganda -- a mask over an ugly truth that would inevitably reveal itself. Western concepts like a reformation of their religion, or that fundamentally all religions are alike simply do not apply. Tools like Katie can pretend all they want.

    Even if muslims would want to create such a show, their own imams would issue fatwa after fatwa against it if any of it were to cause a relaxation in their own dogma.

    • I want to say first that I agree with the Muslim assestment because overall it doesn't mesh with the American experience nor with the cultural parameters that have been set in this country. The only way it would work is for the family to be Americans who just happen to be muslims and how that interaction finds harmony in their relationship within themselves and outside their family, and like you said certain aspects will indoubtly crash with fundamental ideologies of the Islamic religion so it will be a difficult show to produce. However I still think that needing or wanting a fictional show to aid in the liking of muslims is making a lot of assumptions on the viewer (that he or she is racist or hateful against the muslim which I am sure it is not the case for most people). Katie is wrong in that.

      Now respectfully, I believe that got something wrong... The Cosby Show was about a normal family within THEIR normal circumstances. The color of their skin was inconsequential. The "American" "goals, dreams, and aspirations" all belong to all Americans. It isn't and it never was (at least in true philosophical intentions) just for whites. Regardless of the mistakes and the atrocities from the start up of this country until now, all of that evil was just to rob the original intentions of true American beliefs on all people. They were always at reach to any person no matter their background or circumstances. Some just reach out hard and grab it, while others expect someone to pass it on and if doesn't get passed on they get angry (and even that negative attitude is not exclusive to blacks either and if anyone thinks that is an idiot). Obviously the shameless plugs of celebrities friends IS NOT part of the normal experiences of MOST families, but again it is after all a fictional show.

      The fact that (some) whites needed the show to normalize black people, or the fact that some people took it to mean that black people can be just "like us" albeit gross in my opinion it is still inconsequential. I don't think that Cosby intentions were to show that black people can be just like white people and if that were his intentions I am sorry, but he is an idiot for that. The American circumstances are that people (any and all) can have families and lives and make a home and have jobs and encourage their kids to be the best they can be and personal responsibility and to be educated and get jobs and homes of their owns. In fact those circumstances are part of human history. It doesnt matter if the people are poor or rich, white or black (or any other ethnicity, color) religious or not. That is the American experience in a nutshell and everyone has access to that and it is not exclusive to anyone to the point that someone who doesn't belong to that exclusive club and portrays it is aberrant.

      The fact that someone would consider it aberrant in my opinion is wrong and borderline racist if not full on. I feel very strongly about this. My blackness has never been an issue for me, nor have I made it an issue, the only time when it has been an issue is when another outside of myself made it so. I reach for the opportunities that are naturally mine to reach out to and if I am blocked because of my blackness or circumstances some that are out of my control... no matter I find a way around, through or find another opportunity of equal or greater value. I am no better than anyone and no one is better than me and therefore I have the same opportunities and everyone else has them too, it is how we go about grabbing them that makes the difference in the end. Overall if anything that could be the message of the Cosby show.

      • I didn't mean that this show was ever intended as a tool to normalize relations between people of varying melanin content. I think they just wanted to make money, and this worked. A few years before, 'The Jeffersons' did, too, so so much for a tool to normalize anything. To repeat what you said, what they did was show a (relatively) normal family, in a (relatively) normal context, doing (relatively) normal things. They did it with humor, and class. Yes, some (or a lot) of what they did was over the top, but it wasn't anything we hadn't seen on something like 'The Brady Bunch'.

        However, they were not your average sitcom family, and were not the typical portrayal of black people in the media. This was not lost on the audience. I worked in a 95% black neighborhood during that show's run, and I can tell you that the positive values were seen and felt amongst the people I worked with every day. It was something we had in common, and we talked about it often. The fundamental opinion of the watchers of that show, black and white, was "They're like me, and I enjoy watching a show about me."

        I think that the foundation of an irrational prejudice is ignorance. If the stereotypical portrayal of black people is as drug dealers and worse on television, it affects many people, black and white. Not all of course. Your character is different, and I salute you for that -- you see beyond the stereotypes, and think for yourself. You're an amazing young lady -- then cultural pressure to "blend in" is strong, as you mentioned earlier.

        When a person talks of race, statistics helps. When the Cosby show came on, I'd say that a substantial portion of the white community (statistically speaking) simply had never met a "normal" black family, and vice-versa. A lot of eyes were opened by that show. Not all -- and not all needed to have their eyes opened. Bill Cosby himself opened a lot of doors for people, and we as a nation owe him for that. I won't say we owe him blind allegiance for it, though -- he's human, after all, and sometimes he's just plain wrong.

        I compare that to Redd Foxx -- I knew two acquaintances who hadn't gotten out of their rural area much. One went to Vegas and saw Redd, and the other saw Cosby doing his standup. The one that saw Redd saw him based upon his role in 'Sanford & Son', and he was appalled when he heard Foxx's foul language. I cannot vouch for his tolerance of others before, but he was not very tolerant, racially speaking after that. Redd was just too alien to his understanding, and he came away deeply disappointed. The other guy saw Bill Cosby based upon his role in 'I Spy', and came away from that a more tolerant person. I still listen to Cosby monologues during work -- his timing, humor, and understanding of what makes us humans tick is amazing.

        These were not 'just so' stories -- the road to tolerance is a lot more complex than that -- but they did confirm/enforce positive and negative opinions. The 'Cosby Show' also launched a lot of jealousy and hatred from people, for different reasons. I think that he would never have been given a fair chance from any of them, whether that be Spike Lee or David Duke. Not much anybody can do about that. If all people were rational, then we'd be in a lot better place, and I just don't think that this is the Time for that.

        The real interesting part of the 'Cosby Show' was that the black people I knew saw more healthy lives that didn't cause them to turn their backs upon the culture they grew up with, and didn't force them to spend their lives blaming others for their circumstances. That's a priceless thing. I'd say that that's the real bargain tolerance-wise that came out of it. I can't say that it "fixed" anybody, but if it caused them to not be abusive to a person that seeks to raise themselves up out of poor circumstances, then mission accomplished.

        I don't think that it was a perfect thing, but given the bargain with the devil that our society has made with television, I have to take the positive where I can find it.

        • In the end the only person I can control is me and no one else and no one can control me either. By that I mean that the only thing that is certain is that everyone reacts in their own way to the same stimuli. Obviously I live my own life and I seek to react to situations appropriately, but as you say we are all human and we are all different. I dont think that the Cosby show was this huge social experiment, like you I believe it was meant to make money all other circumstances good or bad stemming from the show were perhaps in my opinion unintended. That show in my opinion was no different from any other family show regardless of race in fact the similetude far outweighs the differences...

          Back again as far as people's perceptions and how we react to things based on our experience and preconceptions for sure it is what it is. I dont have to like it though because I think we all have to grow the hell up. No one person is more than another and just because bad stuff happens it doesn't mean that it has to stay that way or that it should infinetly and forevermore define a person or a group of people.

          Going back to the original story that is what Katie is doing even if she doesn't know it.

        • Yes, one day, Katie will graduate from being an ignorant little tramp into being a knowledgeable little tramp.

• I can't stand Couric. She was paid $20 million/year to host the TODAY show, and if it wasn't bad enough that she was overvalued (understatement), she nonetheless proved herself time and again to be a cheap, miserly person. And I don't believe for one second that she doesn't already know that there was a Canadian sitcom called *Little Mosque on the Prairie*, disingenuous sh*t that she is. And since Cosby's recent nauseating gush over Michael Vick (some tripe about his having morphed, butterflylike, from animal abuser to caring human being--patouey!), I couldn't care less if Vick killed him in the same manner he murdered those innocent doggies.

  Anyway, there are at least three seasons' worth of *Little Mosque* episodes on YouTube, if anyone's interested in checking out the show (it grows on you by the time you've watched about 10 episodes in a row). It didn't change my view of Muslims: some good, MANY BAD!

  • Cosby is an idiot if he said that.

    • He's entirely human. He has done a *lot* of good in his life, but he falls as victim to groupthink as anybody.

      A person would think that his opposition to the negative aspects of urban black culture would make him a conservative. It doesn't. Sometimes I wonder if he takes on lib opinions just to keep people from hating absolutely everything he does.

      There's not a lot of liberals that I can respect, even though I disagree with. Cosby's one of them. Still, he leaves me scratching my head sometimes.

      • Yes... but still an idiot. Because the Vick story doesn't mesh with his philosophy on life or at least the one he has been talking about for the past 30 or whatever years. It doesnt have to be conservative philosophy overall, but it can be a stop crying and get to work philosophy that anyone who has a mind and uses it can adopt. When Vick came out of prison (too early in my estimation) he had a woe is me attitude I am sorry this happened to me and that I got caught attitude. There was no real repentance there and so far all that he is doing is PR control. I just dont see it, it is my opinion... which could be wrong but I don't see. Almost like Paris Hilton saying she was into G-d and reading the Bible and going straight right off prison... so... yeah that didn't happen either. A lot (not all) of these celebrities disgust me to no end and yes they are human, but they put themselves in a platform and then complain that they are no heros but at the same time want to be paid like a fake hero nevertheless.

        Cosby has said a lot of good and I am not saying that he is an idiot everlasting just that he is an idiot in this aspect.

        • True, true, true.

• You know when she is doing some of her finest work when she lowers the octave of her voice from the normal screech to this low and serious tone, and she has her serious work glass's on. Also the other expert sociologists in her group are heard going "yea, uh huh, yea". Wouldn't the world be a better place if that metro, girlie Food Channel host Mo Rocca was set free to make the rules for the rest of us to follow?

• It's all quite simple, Katie Couric is a profoundly stupid person. A Muslim version of the "Cosby Show"; that's it, maybe we can have a Muslim version of "The Family Guy" or a Muslim version of "Two and a Half Men". Yeah that'll solve the problem of self-detonating jihadis.

  Katie's problem is a liberal problem, they believe that the cause of terrorism is Americans' misunderstanding of Muslims and our irrational hatred of them. The idea that the real cause could be the Muslims' misunderstanding of the West and their irrational hatred of non-Muslims never occurs to them. To a liberal, it's our fault, it has to be our fault, it's always our fault. But all we need to do is sit down in front of a TV and watch a Muslim Crosby once a week and we'll be cured.

  Thanks Katie, you freakin' dolt.

  • Ol' Katie is some highly refined stupid.