Weekly Thread. 9/13/17. What’s everyone think about sports figures sitting or kneeling for the National Anthem?

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Trickie
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Kneeling is a sign of subservience, I they want to admit in public they’re beneath us, let them, I never watch till after kick-off anyway

Kip Hooker
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I, of course, support a person’s right to protest. I also support the NFL’s duty to give the fans what they want. And what fans want (me included) are players that appreciate how lucky they are to live in a country so wealthy that men who play a kids game for a living get to live like kings.

Lots of people want to play football and never get the chance. Time to give some more of them the chance.

Red Robster
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Strip them of their citizenship and deport them.

KimmyQueen
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This guy is a weird looking idiot… he is a professor … :-/

https://youtu.be/pYxtxpEZKaQ

Red Robster
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The dude immediately reminded me of this song
https://youtu.be/XkB_CFi9row

MGAP
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Extirpates
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The NFL is so exciting to watch! You have the multi-millionaires from one place playing the multi-millionaires from somewhere else. It is not sports, it is a business!

MGAP
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Of course the average American is to blame for this little action to continue We need to tune in for the anthem and turn off the tv as soon as one of these oppressed lads takes a knee. If America can make the advertisers spend their money elsewhere, the NFL will make their players act like adults on the sidelines. This isn’t sports, it’s Capitalism at its finest. Supply and demand will get these assholes on their feet. We as consumers control demand.

RedRightBlonde
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How long do you have to watch a program before the ratings thing kicks in?

MGAP
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I dunno.. I’m pretty sure the cable companies can tell the ratings people what we watch, down to the second.
Used to be the Nielsen people would select you and they actually put a box in your house to monitor your activity. I had a co-worker who did this. They also paid him to do the ratings thing, though I don’t recall how much he said they paid him. But nowadays? They know exactly what we are watching and when. Would not be surprised to hear they have a video cam inside the cable box to record our reactions to boot!

Not so silent
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If they wanna skip the anthem, let them kneel in front of the porcelain god in the men’s room. That’s where this belongs. Act like an ass then protest where the ass is king…

MGAP
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I think it’s silly. If kapersack and the boys are really committed, let’s see them drop their exclusive zip codes and move into the hood to fight the problem at ground level. They’ve got the kind of money to really improve poor black communities. I’m not talking about making United Way appearances for tax breaks, but digging real deep and pouring 80-90% of their income into fixing problems. Surely a guy making several million a year can live on a tenth of that if he’s truly committed to a cause.

KimmyQueen
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If the team owner(s) (and investors) are ok with it…*shrugs* there is really not much that I can do other than what I can do as described below, if the team owner(s) and investors are not ok with it, they have the right to deny them pay, fine them or fire them.

If the owners/investors wish to allow them their freedom of speech, but do not want them do it in public, they have the right to ask the person to sit the anthem out in the locker room and come out once it is over. If the players do not want to compromise, that is their right and the team has the right to deny them pay, fine them or fire them. The team also has the right to put what they want from players during moments of patriotic or civic duty or appreciation in the contracts so if the players are in breach they can be immediately dealt with.

No matter what, the following is ESSENTIAL: The government needs to stay the hell out of it in every way shape and form.

If the public is ok with it, obviously they can put their money, time and viewership in the team as wanted. If the public is not ok with it, they have a right to complain, to ask for the player’s dismissal (or for a compromise as stated above), and to put their money, time and viewership elsewhere.

Now the practical and logical stuff being over, my PERSONAL opinion and take is that sitting down or kneeling (if kneeling is not the correct procedure to what is happening, sometimes it is…like in prayer or getting instructions from the coach or something) or the player is actively or silently protesting during ANY national anthem, patriotic display or act or civic duty; it is extremely disrespectful to the country that allows him or her to live her life to the fullest or that allows him to visit another country to demonstrate her talents. The irony is that in a truly oppressive state this jokers would be imprisoned or dead. The fact they don’t realize that is both hilarious and sad.

It doesn’t really hurt me emotionally nor physically because:

I don’t watch this stupid so called sport, I don’t care about these fools on a personal nor professional level, I don’t spend money nor time in them, nor the sport in general or particular. I invest absolutely nothing, so I have nothing to lose nor gain. I have general dislike and slight disgust at the disrespect just for being a citizen (which is no small matter on that aspect alone), however, I really don’t care that much on an emotional nor physical level beyond that.

As stated above, this should be handled privately, I care not for the government involvement, but everyone has the right to be outraged or find this appropriate according to belief systems. All of that is Constitutional and legal.

Just to clarify: I don’t PERSONALLY see this disrespect, so I am not in a position where I can be completely outraged, as I don’t like the game, I don’t watch the game, etc. The general disgust and dislike is just because as a citizen I find the behavior wrong, but I cannot be outraged by behavior that I don’t see in a situation that I am not invested in.

If this was the Olympics or a real football game, then yes I would be far more triggered. Still believe in the logical and private way to handle the situation, but since I am invested in, and witness this disrespect I would be in flip table mode, but knowing fully well that I just have to either ignore, if the game is absolutely important, or just turn it off. I can also ask for his or her dismissal and just hope it happens, and do the other things mentioned above as that is the extent of my personal influence on the matter.

JPTravis
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I think it’s pretty much a 100% certainty that we will see it at the next Olympics because of the namby pamby way the NFL and media have handled this. By lionizing these morons they’ve made it acceptable to disrespect the entire nation. How can the Olympics deny them a chance to do the same thing there?

KimmyQueen
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They have ways I am sure… IF the Olympics wants to nip it in the bud, they can. We will see.

ooddballz
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Only way they should sit out the National Anthem is if they are in a wheelchair.

JPTravis
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Makes me sick. The sheer absurdity of multi-millionaire athletes trying to play the victim makes me want to puke. Ruins my enjoyment of watching football. I have no sympathy for the idiots involved in this protest who don’t seem to have the brains of a door knob. Like a lot of other fans, I am watching a lot less football since this business started. When I see someone disrespecting the flag at the start of a game, I generally turn off the game out of sense of duty to my country.

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