In one of the strangest ironies yet, the founder of the BridgesTV network that was formed to improve the image of Muslim-Americans in the United States was just arrested for beheading his wife.
Muzzammil Hassan, a prominent Buffalo, New York area businessman, is charged with second-degree murder for beheading wife Aasiya Z. Hassan at his company’s office on Thursday.
Will this tragic story get much airplay on the mainstream media? Probably not. The media in this country doesn’t like to report any news that puts a Muslim in bad light.
We just have one question: he beheaded his wife and was only charged with second degree murder? What the hell do you have to do to get charged with first degree murder in Buffalo?
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I believe in NY state, first degree murder is reserved for the killing of law-enforcement officers. But I could be wrong. Those wacky muslims.
the responses to the situation once again indicate the stupidity of Americans. It would seem that education was wasted on a bunch of morons.
The killing of this lady had nothing to do with religion – once again it was a jilted spouse.
In a grown up country with civilized people – how can anyone judge a group of people by the actions of a few? This is just stupid and against the teachings of Jesus.
If we can judge muslims by the actions of a few, then let’s judge christians by the paedophiles in the catholic church, by the US solidiers that raped a 7 year old Iraqi girl and then killed her and her family, by the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki – killing an estimated 150,000.
Grow up you morons – and have the courage to admit that you’re just as twisted, bloodthirsty, arrogant, cruel as the next person.
Yeah, I mean, other religions behead people all the time. It’s really common for husbands to cut off their wives heads for filing for divorce, just like it’s common for fathers to cut off their daughters heads for wantonness and indecency. Not only Muslims do it. There was that one guy… and then that other guy. Lots of people. Remember?
Brad, I understand your attempt at the point. However you are missing something. Usually people don’t chop the heads off their spouses when they are angry at them. But in Muslim countries it is common for beheadings, stonings and other cruel methods of killing to occur. I see the method of killing in this story tied to religion.
And we don’t give clitorectomies to our girls either in this country.
Like Brad said, treating Muslims like they’re all one big sterotype is wrong. That’s why all Americans are stupid. They only deal in stereotypes. Some of my best friends are Americans, of course, but they’re all stupid, just like every other American. Because Americans are stupid.
Brad
Not judged by the actions of a few, but the inaction of the many.
Ella-
Can you even SEE the irony in your post? You attack Americans for stereotyping, yet throughout your post, you stereotype Americans!
I’m sure glad I’m not one of your “best friends”. I can’t even imagine what you must think of those that are only casual acquaintances.
I agree with Brad. This guys religion had nothing to do with his actions. people go on killing rampages all the time when anger takes over them. Road rage is a good example. We always do things that we later regret.
Administerminator:
Why are you being an advocate of hate? No religion teaches to behead people.
And um do you remember your four father King Henry VIII? I wonder what religion made him chop off his wives head.
In conclusion: I am Muslim, and I am a cuddly wuddly. Most Christians I know are cuddly wuddlies as well. The only ones that let hate be their religion are the ones we need to watch out for.
also, I have people who like to paint things in black and white, “us vs. them”
hate, not have, oops!
ps. now since I made a spelling mistake please dont broad-stroke all Muslims as bad spellers. =)
Ella, I hoped you were being satirical with your post, but now I am not so sure.
Cuddly muslim you have obviously never read your koran, there are a great many references to cruel and barbaric punishments, most notable being to smite the neck. You are ignorant although I doubt you are cuddly. cuddly as a rattlesnake practising taqqiya. Look that up in your holy book!
C’mon, cuddly muslim. Do you know of anyone of any other religion who’s beheaded someone in the last decade?
So calling all non muslims “kaffirs or kufr” is not an example of black and white thinking ” us versus them” Only difference is arab muslims also hate black muslims. Ever heard of a place called Darfur.
Interesting that you compared Henry VIII with Mohammed as they both created a new religion to justify their sexual and predatory excesses. Only difference, Henry VIII wasnt a paedophile or rapist as far as I know.
[quote] Cuddly Muslim 02.13.09 at 7:07 pm
Why are you being an advocate of hate? No religion teaches to behead people. [/quote]
Then I guess this guy is misinterpreting islam as well eh ?
http://sioedeutschland.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/behead_those_who_insult_islam_london.jpg
oh no its 4 against 1 so i better make this snappy.
MARTIN: riote, i have never read my “ko-ran” riote riote. you obviously are a master of the Arabic language and have done research on ihatemuslims.com I can tell =). keep up the good work and please keep your snakes to yourself
KEVIN: Last decade?? HMMM a quick google search and I will give you some in the LAST WEEK!!
(christians)http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090211/METRO/902110453/1361
(hindus)http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/autocodes/countries/lithuania/man-guilty-over-beheaded-woman-murder-$1269023.htm
(Sikh)http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090206/BC_beheaded_daugther_parole_090206/20090206/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome
(Budhist) http://www.kxmc.com/News/Nation/323154.asp
(Christian) http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/pregnant-us-tourist-beheaded-in-puerto-rico_100151581.html
I could do more but i’m sleepy
MARTIN (AGAIN): when did i call my non-Muslim friends and neighbors “kaffirs?” Christians/jews are considered “people of the book” in my ko-ran.
Wow Martin, you must be getting your “facts” on iz-lam from Daniel Pipes.
Azrael (aka Israel)
Yes, anyone who “beheads” is a SICK INDIVIDUAL.
all religions teach love, respect, and that all walks of life are sacred since we are all His Creation.
And yes I am very cuddly
I looked at the link where you claimed a Christian beheaded someone. I saw no reference to the guy being Christian. Do I need to look at the rest of your examples, or are they equally as disingenuous?
The solution to the bad rap islam gets is simple, cuddly muslim. Get your brethren to stop killing people. Seriously, that’s all it would take to make your religion to re-enter the civilized world. Is that so much to ask?
Yep, the religion of pieces strikes again.
Specifically directed at people like Brad and Ella (and Brad and Ella in the event they read this every): As you must clearly not know, there are intelligent people everywhere, people who do not stereotype others, however it is quite clear that you fall into the stereotype of hating Americans for stereotyping. You beat yourself! How can anyone be as amazing as yourself? Please, us Americans would love you here, because you have made it quite clear that you are one of us. By stereotyping, you also show your incredible stupidity (does your intelligence lie below the average American?). It’s like living on the beach yet hating the ocean, or hating people who drive the same make of car as you (I apologize in advance if you are incapable of understanding this).
Whoever said this guy did it for religious reasons?
Sounds like he just went psycho.
There are a lot of reasons people do a lot of things. I doubt that every action of every person can be tied directly to their beliefs.
One thing that would settle this once and for all would be to count up the number of beheadings per capita of muslims and the percentage of beheadings per capita of other-than muslim (or break it down further if you wish). See what the numbers are. If the numbers are higher for the muslim population than that means that muslims have a propensity to behead people more than do other religions. Nothing prejudiced about this. Just statistics. Now, one of the problems will be getting the accurate number of beheadings in Islamic countries because they are not exactly known for free speech, human rights watch or any favorable treatment of women. But i would think with even the most certain underreporting from the Islamic countries, the percentage will be significantly higher.
Jet’s just think about this anecdotally for a moment. Quick, in the next five seconds what beheadings done by non-muslims come to mind? Come on, be honest, I’m sure it’s none or maybe one you might know of. Now, think about any beheadings by muslims. Many, many come to mind.
By the way, where the hell is this story in the news? Can you imagine if a Christian TV network president beheaded his wife? It would be Aruba times 10 for the networks. It would be everywhere, in shock and outrage. But when a muslim, illegal alien, or any other “media protected” group does something, its all hush, hush. I remember when that muslin in Seattle (or was it Portland?) killed four senior Jewish women, it barely made the news. Over and over the media hides stories like these. Sure they’ll mention it, but then it’s over.
“If the numbers are higher for the muslim population than that means that muslims have a propensity to behead people more than do other religions. Nothing prejudiced about this. Just statistics.”
Nah. Muslims would call that islamophobic. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO NOTICE HOW MURDEROUS ISLAM IS! It’s the law.
Geert Wilders noticed… and now he can’t even visit England.
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You know, I was really wondering if I should have used a /sarc tag.
I was being sarcastic. So, yes, I was aware of the irony in my post. Hooray! Reason has triumphed!
Brad, I fear, was serious.
Oh, and I am an American. So, I guess I denounce myself….
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I love the way “Cuddly Muslim” attempts to blur the very real and obvious worldwide crisis of Islamic-driven murderous terrorism, and vague historical antecedents long forsaken by other religions. And although he appears to want to appear “reasonable”, like other Islamic apologists/deniers, no where does he admit the blunt truth of the matter–not all Muslims are terrorists, but the overwhelming majority of terrorists are Muslims.
Just once I’d like to see one of these “reasonable” Muslim apologists admit the reality of the situation with regard to at least some of their dco-religionists, and demonstrate a real desire to eradicate this cancer eating at world peace everywhere.
P.s. Check out post by “Brad”–typical of Islamo-liars. By pointing out the extremely rare examples of brutality in “other religions” he wishes to obscure and deny the truths mentioned in my previous post.
The simple truth can be simply illustrated to simple people like Brad by merely counting the origins of world wide terrorist attacks in last 10 years, counting how many were committed by Muslims compared to other religions. People like him are either 1. Islamic immigrant (of whom we have already admitted too many–talk to Europeans about their problems with this now, then contact your Congressman), 2. hooked up with one or 3. some drooling left-wing recipe mumbler who wishes to profess the official Jimmy Carter-type wisdom, i.e., that really all the world’s problems would be solved if we would only make nice to these murderers!
Duh.
Just to be clear – I can only recall one story where a non-Muslim cut off the head of a female relative (daughter, I think), and that guy was Coptic, but was still Egyption. IIRC; I can’t find the story. But I have never heard of a non-Muslim or someone from a non-Muslim culture kill his wife in this way. I’m sure it’s happened, it’s just not common.
As for all the “historical” crap about Henry VIII or the French Revolution or whatever other beheading-type or wife-killing example these people come up with: those were government acts that came after trials and public hearings (even if they were sham trials … another topic…). A common form of public execution was the guillotine. That is hugely different than some guy taking an ax or a kitchen knife to his own family. It’s like comparing murder who puts strychnine in food to a warden who performs a lethal injection. Because, hey, they both used poison! If you can’t see the difference, you are depraved. (And yes, innocent people can be executed, yada yada. That’s not the point. The point is that one person – the warden – is acting within the rules and recognized processes of a larger society. The other kills because he feels totally justified in doing whatever he wants to a weaker person and apparently few people are willing to say boo.)
Hassan felt like killing his wife, so he did. Brutally. That’s common. The method is not common.
Every story about a female beheading or “honor killing” involves an Arab or a Muslim or both. Christians, Jews, and Buddhists don’t do that. Western cultures don’t do that. It’s not racist or hateful to observe that when a woman gets her head cut off, it is almost always because her Muslim husband or father did it to her. What’s sad is that people spend more time arguing against the stereotype than defending the victims of people who reinforce that stereotype. I think Hassan’s wife got a much worse deal than Hassan is getting.
And stereotyping is to say “Because Joe is X, he must be like Y because every X is like Y.” That’s silly because Joe is an individual. Cuddly Muslim is not like Muzzammil Hassan just because they’re both Muslim. But to look at statistics and say statistically Y is more common in X community is just … statistics. Is it racist to observe that meth is cooked and used by whites more than other groups? If not, then it’s not racist to observe that most beheadings are done by Muslim men to Muslim women.
And Henry VIII didn’t create a religion to do anything, much less behead his wives. He could have done that without any religious oversight, and did, because he was king. Protestantism had been around for almost a hundred years at that time. He split from the Catholic Church only to get sanction to divorce his first wife, who lived for about twnety years after that quite happily. Or, at least, alive.
Perhaps Hassan should have considered divorce a preferable option to chopping his wife’s head off.
Only two wives of six were beheaded: Anne Boleyn (admittedly, just because he got mad at her) and Catherine Howard, for committing adultery which, since he was king, was considered treason. That would be wife #2 and wife #4, if memory serves. So, four others were annulled, divorced, or died of natural causes.
And, we’re Americans here. Henry VIII is not anyone’s “four” father. Or forefather.
It’s ok to mention that Europe in the 1500’s was pretty awful, Ella. There’s no reason to defend it. They did some sh#tty things. Sometimes they used Christianity as an excuse to do them!
But no one uses Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, heck, even Wiccanism as an excuse to kill people today in the civilized world. That’s what’s important. Today, Christianity causes no deaths. Unfortunately, in the uncivilized world of islam, people still get murdered for that stupid book they read. There can be nothing holy about the koran while it continues to cause death in the name of the devil god it describes, a god who asks for murder in his name.
I’m pretty sure that no other religion prevalent on the face of the Earth gave a standing order to its adherents to murder people who don’t follow the religion. It leads to crap like this, where a man chops off the frickin’ head of his wife. Sorry to acronymically swear, but WTF!?
This is a bad, bad, bad religion.
Martin said that Henry VIII and Mohammed both created new religions to justify their bloodlust. With Mohammed, that is true, with what little I know about Islam. It is worse than a lie with Henry VIII; it is a very convenient inaccuracy to create moral equivalency.
Part of what frosts me is blurring the lines between reality and propoganda. Have people in the name of Christianity done evil things? Of course. But Henry VIII didn’t do what he did in the name of Christianity. We didn’t nuke Japan in the name of Christianity. So why is saying “this has nothing to do with Christianity” some kind of denial?
In point of fact, pedophile priests could be a black eye against Christianity. However, there is no sane way for Hiroshima or Nagasaki to be. There is no way for alleged rapes or murders commited by US soldiers to be the fault of Christianity, unless you’re saying that the US equals Christianity. And the modern US equals 1500s England, and Henry VIII equals Christianity.
It’s this bizarre hodgepodge that I think we in the “West” (as in, non-Muslim) should argue against. Islam and a few other cultures mix all of this – America, medieval Europe, Crusades, kings, Jews, and Christianity – in one big blender, like we all share the exact same histories and motives. Like England engaging in the Crusades 300 years before the Western Hemisphere was even disovered is somehow the direct fault of America and all of our Mid-East policy is built on that framework.
If you want to talk the Crusades, knock yourself out. That we can assign to Christianity.
Of course, as you point out, the Crusades were hundreds of years ago, and the Muslims are the only ones still fighting those ghost battles.
Here’s the difference between the atrocities committed by Christians and those committed by Muslims:
1- Atrocities committed by muslims are IN FULFILLMENT of their scriptures. Obeying the letter of the Koran. Read the Koran and see for yourself.
2-Atrocities committed by christians are IN VIOLATION of their scriptures.
Disobeying the letter and the spirit of the New Testament.
This is why you don’t ever hear serious discussions between “moderate” muslims and their radical brethren. The radicals win the argument every time by quoting the Koran.
“the responses to the situation once again indicate the stupidity of Americans. It would seem that education was wasted on a bunch of morons.
The killing of this lady had nothing to do with religion – once again it was a jilted spouse.
In a grown up country with civilized people – how can anyone judge a group of people by the actions of a few? This is just stupid and against the teachings of Jesus.
If we can judge muslims by the actions of a few, then let’s judge christians by the paedophiles in the catholic church, by the US solidiers that raped a 7 year old Iraqi girl and then killed her and her family, by the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki – killing an estimated 150,000.
Grow up you morons – and have the courage to admit that you’re just as twisted, bloodthirsty, arrogant, cruel as the next person.”
The murder was, in part, motivated by religion. Ever heard of honor killings?
BTW, your argumentative, rather name calling, style is as moronic and arrogant as those you claim to accuse. You are judged by your own statements. Why don’t you admit that you don’t know enough about any of the responders here to judge them as twisted, bloodthirsty, arrogant or cruel?
Don’t be silly, pacman. When was the last time you got so pissed off at your wife that you decided to remove her head? That’s a ‘muslim only’ dilemma. Regular people don’t consider this to be an option.
Kevin
I was responding to an earlier post that is quoted in mine, just in case that was not clear.
Regular people don’t consider this option, I agree entirely. Only in the ‘religion of peace’ is such barbarity sanctioned.
1.BEHEADINGS & CHOPPING HANDS,WIPING STICKS- Is legally practice in
Saudi Arabia. I worked in Saudi for 3 years & my wife,we witness it.
2.HANGING AND STONING TO DEATH ( GAYS,THIEVES,WOMEN)- Is practice
in IRAN. See news in internet -STONING & HANGING IN IRAN.
3.IRAQ- BEHEADINGS- see news in IRAQ( AL QUEDA) and Philippines (ABU SAYAF).
4.HONOR KILLINGS-See all news in internet.
5.MUSLIMS KILL MUSLIMS-See IRAQ news- SUNNI VS. SHIATES.
6. TERRORIST AROUND THE WORLD- See news in the internet.
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