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90,000 Christians martyred in 2016. And the rate of slaughter is increasing.

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poppajoe49
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It might just be about time to stop turning the other cheek.

KimmyQueen
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As long as it is up to you, be at peace with everyone. If the injury giving you won’t destroy you or others, let it go. Sometimes people are dumbasses, out of control or angry, but their stupidity amounts to nothing. Getting revengeful or angry at them does nothing good. However, it doesn’t mean being a doormat or willingly allowing people to destroy other people. People who do not want to be at peace with us, we cannot just let them do whatever they want.

sifi
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Revelation 20:1-4

1Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand.
2And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;
3and he threw him into the abyss, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time.
4Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

KimmyQueen
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On Resurrection Day we commemorate Lord Christ’s conquering of Death and His position as Redeemer and King that will Resurrect all of His People especially those Martyred in Christ.

Beth
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May I ask a question please, from an ignorant Jew? It pertains to life after death. A friend of mine is a Pentecostal Christian and she does not believe in life after death. Is this a common view in Christianity?

JPTravis
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John 11:25-26

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”

sifi
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I guess you’ve piqued my interest on this subject. I’m up early this morning and out of curiosity did a little research on the Pentecostal faith. I’m Southern Baptist, but it seems Pentecostals pretty much have the same beliefs as far as the rapture, resurrection and eternal life. A couple of branches are pretty far out there. I found one that does not believe in the Trinity. They believe Jesus is the soul embodiment of the one true God, which is not scriptural. Several believe you must speak in tongues as confirmation of salvation which is something else I’ve never seen in scripture. I believe in speaking in tongues as a sign of salvation, but that it is NOT a requirement for salvation. I could not find any Pentecostal variances that did not believe in life after death. So, your friend is definitely in the minority even among her own faith.

poppajoe49
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No

KimmyQueen
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I don’t do denominations they literally mean nothing to me. But if you emphasized her denomination the question is, is that normal for Pentacostals, not all Christians, as Christians generally speaking, worships a/the G-D who was dead and then Resurrected and promised the same for His followers… It doesn’t make sense for Christians in general to not believe it.

If she believes that then:

1. She is sadly very ignorant. If she is sincere in her beliefs then she needs to pick up a New or Second Testament and ask a non denominational pastor to assist and she can research online: http://www.gotquestions.org is a good place to start.

2. She is lying to you about being a Christian… weird why would she do that?

3. You misunderstood her perhaps? May have to ask her to explain her position more fully.

4. She has a mental problem of some kind and is using Christianity as a cover and she needs to get mental help (a reason for number 2 if that is an issue)

The entire premise of Christianity is about resurrection and eternal life, without it, Christianity would not exist so…. I would advice you speak with her more fully?

Beth
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I am Jewish and, therefore, not the person to have this conversation with her. However, in light of all the points made here I asked her what happens to the soul when one dies.

Her response was quite interesting, she “had a conversation yesterday about this yesterday and now I need to go back and firm up what I believe.”

So it seems to me she spoke with a fellow Christian(s) and is now beginning to re-evaluate her position. To be continued.

Great conversation though, I love learning about peoples beliefs and the depth of knowledge some have. Each time I have conversations about religion with people I marvel at those who knock religion and call it simplistic. These are deep and profound questions.

KimmyQueen
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I found this interesting: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionqanda/2017/01/jews-believe-life-death/

All in all it seems that Christianity was seemed to be the answer to that question for Jews, before the chasm happened. She is going to need to educate herself on the matter. If she is a minister it is a bad look.

sifi
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That is weird since Pentecostals believe emphatically on the gifts of the Spirit, the Holy Ghost power. Some of Peter’s Spirit-anointed sermon on the Day of Pentecost…

Acts 2:36-39 “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.” [37] When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” [38] Peter replied, “REPENT and be BAPTIZED, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. AND you will RECEIVE the GIFT of the Holy Spirit. [39] The promise is for you and your children and FOR ALL who are far off — for ALL whom the Lord our God will call.”

Jesus after His death and resurrection appeared to His followers telling them that He would send a Helper, comforter, the Holy Spirit from God. There is another promise, the gift of eternal life mentioned in several verses in the old and new testament. http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Eternal-Life,-Nature-Of
Two of the most popular…
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

It baffles me that anyone belonging to the Charismatic movement, which the Pentecostal church led, would not believe in eternal life. I can assure you that life after death is the common view in Christianity.

JPTravis
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Well that’s just weird. Are you sure it’s not just some sort of confusion about nomenclature? Because perhaps the primary requirement for calling yourself a Christian is believing that Jesus died and rose, providing at least one example of life after death. And the REASON He made the sacrifice was so that we all might have life after death.

By the way, (and this is just my opinion) “Pentecostal” is a word without meaning as far as churches go. Anybody and everybody calls themselves Pentecostal, to the point where the word tells you nothing. There’s some pretty weird pastors out there with storefront churches and (literally) a handful of attendees who call themselves Pentecostal and have no clue what the word is supposed to mean. Years ago I walked into a Pentecostal church on New Year’s Eve with my black wife and they told us to leave because we were interracial. Seriously? I went to another one where they had gone past speaking in tongues to singing in tongues. And that’s ALL they were doing. Talk about a weird-ass service. Nobody said a word, they just sat around in silence until someone would stand up and start howling nonsense like (my description) cats in heat. The louder the better. I didn’t know whether to run for my life or start laughing.

KimmyQueen
Member

I am laughing now so that would have been what I would have done

Beth
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First, Happy Easter to you and your family. Second, thank you answering me.
As to my friend, who is an ordained Minister, who claims there is no life after death.
It has been an ongoing conversation between us. She’s an extremely wonderful human being and I enjoy our conversations, however this is her position. It’s bothered me because if you don’t believe in life after death it would seem you’d miss deeper lessons. Last week,
I asked her, if G-d transcends nature wouldn’t so too the soul? Her exact response was, ” Can’t say I understand what that means.”
Anyway, I thought her position was a minority view. You all seem very knowledgeable about the subject and thought I’d take a chance asking. Thank you again.

KimmyQueen
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I mean no offense… There is something off… very off… That is not a minority view, that is an anti Christ view. I am not assigning malignancy to her, just stating a fact. If it is not a mental incapacity or disability keeping her from accepting the most basic of tenets, then something else is going on and since I don’t know her I couldn’t venture to guess. Sorry. Just keeping it real.

Red Robster
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It is written in the 19 chaptering of Job: For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: 26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: 27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.

As an aside Paul who was a Jew among Jews wrote to Timothy:

Bible > KJV > 1 Timothy 2

◄ 1 Timothy 2 ►
King James Bible

1I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. 7Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

8I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
Now how may any woman be a Christ preacher?

JPTravis
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I get a daily quotation by email and today they sent a quotation from Mahatma Gandhi, which irritated me a little, it being Easter, until I realized the quotation was about Jesus:

“A man who was completely innocent, offered himself as a sacrifice for the good of others, including his enemies, and became the ransom of the world. It was a perfect act.”

That from perhaps the most famous Hindu of all time.

KimmyQueen
Member

Indeed an act of perfection.

Not so silent
Member

Achmed, meet MOAB……and his family….Problem solved.

deepthinker
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The religion of “peace” is anything but. Those of us who are Christians are the ones who are persucuted around the world. Yes, in the previous centuries many things where done in the name of Christ which killed believers of other religions. Those times have passed. Yet islam still believes in killing all those who refuse to follow the child molester.

I’ll stand up and die that way instead of bowing to the heathens of islam

KimmyQueen
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What I want to say is the following: People taking the Lord’s Name in vain to do evil acts that were nor done by Christ, nor sanctioned by Him nor His Disciples and Apostles are NOT the true representation of Christ nor the Church nor her mission. Acts done by these people have no core value in the Church whatsoever. I will not apologize nor pre-phrase my beliefs in this matter, because those people were sinning against G-D and His Church. They were NOT part of G-D nor His Church. They had no legitimate reason to do what they did, they were lying and breaking every commandment possible. The Church went through cleansing and continues to grow and get into Reformations and revivals in order to purge the Church from the wolves in sheep clothing and the crazy and the evil that seek to use the Church to hide their evil. The Church can be abused and mistreated and used, but the Church does not allow that to happen for long as the Truth always comes out and The Church always seeks nearness to Christ and in doing so, by force and necessity, sheds the freaks off. Freaks love the Church and her desire for purity and righteousness so they can leech off her and try to clean themselves by defiling her (like the witch doctors in African countries telling men with aids to rape girls or nuns or religious women to clean themselves from the disease). Due to many factors the Church is thus victimized and because evil always hurts, people blame the Church for allowing the pain and defilement and don’t see her as a victim herself. They blame the victim, the Church, for the vileness acts of those that claim to be of or from her, but aren’t. They are taken the Lord’s Name in vain, they are lying. They then accuse the Church of being false for not cleaning them or cleaning the world. It is disgusting. The Church can take up her armor and be proactive in getting rid of the freaks, and protecting herself more, but we live in a fallen world. In the end Christ will come to rescue us.

Not so with Islam. The acts done by Islamists WERE done by Momo an his followers, sanctioned and encouraged. They are a true representation of Islam and what it stands for and its mission which is to subjugate the world. Moderate Muslims want to Reform, but it is impossible because, unlike Judeo-Christianity, what Islamists do IS the core of their beliefs and therefore they practice their true religion and therefore there is nothing to reform nor cleanse nor shed. If they get rid of the core then it is no longer Islam.

KimmyQueen
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I don’t want to be like Saint Peter, but even if it means death I shall have to stay on Christ’s corner. It is the winning side. It is the righteous side. I believe in self defense and in personal armament, Christians shouldn’t have to be victims, but I understand that sometimes it is not possible to arm oneself or to fight back. Christ said this would happened and in great numbers. I mourn my martyred family, pray for their families and communities and ask my Father to please do something and give us the abilities for us to help ourselves. I have no problem with dead Muslim terrorists and persecutors.I have no problem with their destruction. I do pray that many will come to Christ or at least leave Islam, but I do pray that Islam is wiped clean from the Planet and alongside the evil ones that will never change.

JPTravis
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So the next time some ignorant Muslim or politically-correct liberal tries to regurgitate some CAIR-inspired bullshit about Islamophobia and the poor lot of Muslims in America, you tell them in loud and certain terms that you know who is persecuted in this world and who’s doing the persecuting, and they should step off before you decide to give them an education.

deepthinker
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After 16 years of babbling about the religion of peace, it’s going to take a strong willed Peesident who will put the heathens on the slabs or will force them to change and learn to accept that there are those who won’t follow their “religion”.

If you have daughters or sisters hoe in good faith follow so a barbaric practice and treatment of women? Try explaining that.

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