Another day another Piers Morgan fail: This is what happens when you bring a soup sandwich to an intellectual gun fight. We expect that any time now Mr. Morgan will look to do to the 1st Amendment what he’s been trying to do to the 2nd.

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sa_rose
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sa_rose
January 12, 2013 10:18 am

I just saw a trailer for a movie called “Bullet to the Head.” Are we really going to blame the guns? Anyone ever watched a Quinton Tarantino movie? Not only violent and bloody to the extreme, but blood shooting out of wounds (it doesn’t really do that) and every thing is slow motion to enhance the effects. Guns aren’t the problem. And Hollyweird is as responsible as anyone for grooming crazies to do what they do.

Progressive Hemrrhoid
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Progressive Hemrrhoid
January 12, 2013 8:15 am

Here’s some simple facts about how successful the British Criminal has been with his talk show.
CABLE NEWS RACE
THURS. JAN 10, 2013

FOXNEWS O’REILLY 3,162,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,152,000
FOXNEWS FIVE 2,129,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,005,000
MTV BUCKWILD 1,920,000
CMDY DAILY SHOW 1,880,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,704,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 1,401,000
CMDY COLBERT 1,220,000
MSNBC SCHULTZ 1,035,000
MSNBC MADDOW 982,000
MSNBC MATTHEW 954,000
MSNBC O’DONNELL 914,000
MSNBC SHARPTON 805,000
CNN PIERS 783,000
CNN COOPER 611,000

Ruben
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Ruben
January 12, 2013 1:18 pm

Fitting that Anderson finished last.

Does that mean I can start calling him Mini-Cooper?

Sidekick
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Sidekick
January 12, 2013 5:20 am

The other night I sat in a hotel lobby bar where the TV was running Piers Morgan’s show. As I ordered a beer I also fairly loudly asked that the channel be changed. A woman next to me asked me “Oh, so you like guns?”. To which, I replied, ” Yeah, I love them.” That began a conversation where I discovered early on that she is the Director of Diversity and Inclusion at DePaul University. Not ever one to shy away from a debate, I proceeded to eviscerate her entire world view. I don’t believe I changed her mind about anything since she apparently gave up critical thinking decades ago or never learned how to think independently in the first place. She was only capable of regurgitating media talking points with no context or information to support her views.

An example of the exchange at the beginning:

Me: “I think BHO is the worst president since Wilson and here’s why”…insert the usual outrages.

Her: Oh, you’re a racist.

It was game on front there.

The best part for me was when she was told me that her grandparents we’re from Mexico and came her legally but she fully supports amnesty for “undocumented workers”. I then asked how she reconciled that with the Mexican Constitution that prevents foreign born citizens from even voting or the violence taken against illegals crossing into Mexico’s southern border. Her response: “We have blonde and blue eyed Mexicans because their ancestors came from Germany?”

Now I ask you, how the Hell do you intellectually defeat (totally defeat) a political ideology whose adherents are so effing blindly ignorant and stupid yet occupy virtually all administrative positions within academia, thereby creating millions more idiots? I may have a won a battle but the war is never ending.

Plainsman
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Plainsman
January 12, 2013 6:00 am

Bottom line, you can’t debate with these types. As you say, they are loaded with non-contextual, media driven, BS talking points that do nothing but stir up emotion, and effectively push intelligent discussion into a corner.

PM kept hammering him about the AR15 assault rifle, asking why does a law abiding citizen NEED one of these. Shapiro’s answer was exactly correct, which is to say that we need to defend ourselves from tyranny.

What frustrates me is why can’t the discussion go to CCW laws? PM made one side comment in this video about ALL movie goers being armed implying that if someone came into a theater to start shooting that it would be bullets flying all directions. That kind of scenario totally ignores one very important fact… mass murderers, knowing that ALL movie goers are likely to be armed, WON’T EVEN ATTEMPT AN ATTACK BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WILL MEET DEADLY RESISTANCE!

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon
January 12, 2013 6:13 am

Bullets flying all directions is hardly accurate. Rather several converging on one target in rapid fashion from a few different directions. Yeah, the morgan is a whistle.

Plainsman
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Plainsman
January 12, 2013 6:31 am

Exactly, but the PM types want that picture of bullets flying everywhere. Truth is, even with the latest steep ramping up of gun sales, in a theater scenario like we’re discussing here, the % actually carrying would be nothing close to what PM is trying to present.

Begs the question – did anybody see anything on the news about the San Antonio shooting, where an off duty, female, deputy shot one of these crazies? The only place you’ll see that kind of story is on the internet, oh and perhaps a one day report on local stations… they can hardly ignore it, but then it dies because it doesn’t fit the msm agenda.

AYE!

sa_rose
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sa_rose
January 12, 2013 10:13 am

Of course I live in San Antonio, so we heard about it for days right up to the Deputy receiving an award for her actions. Nationally? no so much. No one was killed, the shooting was an overflow of what was essentially a domestic issue, so the MSM couldn’t use it to scare people.

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon
January 12, 2013 6:42 am

In the Newtown and Aurora cases as well as the other massacres that are brought up, the cowards traveled past other target rich environs to get to guaranteed gun free zones. Concealed carry protects! Open carry enhances that protection, but concealed carry is the win. When the bad guys can’t tell who or how many but KNOW some probably are ready to pop em, their instinct to live keeps them quiet. How many mass shootings do we hear about in places where the carry laws are quite open? Not off duty cops or security guards, but regular citizens. That guy that didn’t shoot at the mall, he was a regular joe, right? Anyway, even if they do happen, we don’t hear about em without searching for that news. It doesn’t fit the agenda of the agit-prop media arm of our government.

Sidekick
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Sidekick
January 12, 2013 6:56 am

As we have so often seen the massacres are good for the left and their agenda.

When the gun laws were loosened here in Florida the number of car jackings virtually went to zero overnight. When I first moved here they were a very frequent occurrence especially in South Florida. So much so that the Miami Herald and the Sun Sentinal used to run articles about how to protect yourself (less a gun) from a car jacking. One way they said to protect yourself was to run traffic lights so you would not be immobile on the city streets. That is a tactic only a brain dead liberal could get behind.

Today a would be car jacker would be playing Russian roulette.

ooddballz
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ooddballz
January 12, 2013 2:29 pm

Just where in FL do ya live kick?
I lived in the panhandle (Niceville) and S.FL (Boca).
All things considered, I prefer the panhandle.

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49
January 12, 2013 11:36 pm

As do I and DefHarryMelon. Well, the greater Tampa area.

Sidekick
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Sidekick
January 12, 2013 2:38 pm

I’m in Tampa.

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon
January 12, 2013 7:03 am

And we can’t have these, either- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDrzMGdYWZc

Sidekick
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Sidekick
January 12, 2013 6:36 am

Or the young mother near Atlanta who emptied her revolver into a home invader thereby protecting her three small children.

The hypocrisy is what frustrates me. People like PM invoke the children when talking about gun grabbing but they ignore the unseen, which is the thousands who are SAVED or never assaulted in the first place because of the presence of guns. They will never acknowledge that truth, of course, because it destroys their own case.

Sidekick
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Sidekick
January 12, 2013 6:06 am

I only wish Shapiro stated that the Kathy Giffords shooter used a handgun as Morgan brought up Mark Kelly, who has allowed himself to become a useful idiot.

drb
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drb
January 13, 2013 7:12 pm

I wish Shapiro would have corrected him on the Newton shooter, the “assault rifle” was found in the trunk of the car, and was not actually used in the shooting spree. He used 2 hand guns and multiple clips.

Sidekick
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Sidekick
January 14, 2013 4:19 am

The jury is still out on the AR in the trunk. I think he used hand guns but I can’t prove it after the government threw a lot of dust in the air and confused the issue as it always does.

Not to be picky but they are magazines not clips. It has become a massive pet peeve of mine when some anti-gun proponent displays his or her utter ignorance of the very thing they want to ban. Like little kids trying to make the scary monster-thing go away. Of course, liberalism is adult onset infantilism.

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon
January 14, 2013 5:17 am

After a closer look at the video of the guy jacking the long gun in the trunk, it is apparent that whatever it was, it was NOT an AR15 or one of the many duplicates. The guy handling it pulls an actuator on the right side of the receiver. There is no actuator on the right side of an AR15 type.
Another issue though, didn’t the medical examiner say the victims all were shot with high power rifle rounds?

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49
January 14, 2013 6:52 am

I find it hard to believe that shooting with high power rifle rounds at that range, there would be a round in the bodies to retrieve. More likely they would have passed through, unless he used silvertip or hollowpoints.

drb
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drb
January 14, 2013 5:44 am

so we shall just let the fornensics tell the story then, bullets either match the rifle or they don’t.

Sidekick
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Sidekick
January 14, 2013 5:23 am

He did but that really does not make sense either. I hate conspiracies but the Sandy Hook tragedy has been thoroughly confused for political purposes.

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon
January 14, 2013 6:20 am

I believe the other gunman used lanza as a patsy. The thing about a conspiracy is the likelihood that it will get exposed rises exponentially with each additional participant. When the government is disinforming – big difference from misinforming – it points to some complicity they want covered up. I do not discount the possibility of our rat bags being involved in the JFK assassination, and I certainly don’t discount anyone in this current administration would conduct operations such as what I’m suggesting.

drb
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drb
January 14, 2013 4:23 am

I remember seeing video of the police removing the weapon from the trunk.

Sorry, magazines, I stand corrected.

Sidekick
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Sidekick
January 14, 2013 4:45 am

I saw that too but even Red State had a piece about the AR being used. Whatever. The AR suits the liberal narrative so chalk it up to another Orwellian Ministry of Truth example.

I’m not trying to be a jerk with you about the nomenclature. Like I said it is a pet peeve when the gun grabbers get it wrong. Immediate loss of subject matter credibility.

drb
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drb
January 14, 2013 5:42 am

Oh,no, I don’t think you are trying to be a jerk or anything like it. When it come to guns, I know which ammo I need, how to load and shoot what I have…I don’t really worry with much else. I don’t claim to be all knowing about all guns. So I don’t have a problem with what you have said.

danybhoy
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danybhoy
January 13, 2013 6:21 pm

Sidekick, when did Kathy Gifford get shot?

drb
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drb
January 13, 2013 7:03 pm

oh, you know he meant Gabby, not Kathy…

danybhoy
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danybhoy
January 13, 2013 7:34 pm

I know that, just being a litteral ass.

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49
January 12, 2013 8:10 am

The ONLY reason they’re not screaming about handguns is that they have a different demon to vilify. Once they get their way on rifles, they will return to their war on handguns. It has been their primary target for decades.
Most states with restrictive gun laws have much more restrictive laws where handguns are concerned. NJ for example prohibits the purchase of more than one handgun at a time, and there is a waiting period between issuing a new handgun permit if you already have one. Each handgun requires a separate permit.

sa_rose
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sa_rose
January 12, 2013 10:11 am

And how many murders have been committed with Saturday Night Specials in that period? Were ANY of those guns registered? Did the owners have a permit. or evidence of any gun safety training? Hell, could they even document the guns were even sold legally? I’m thinking the answer to all of those questions is no. So how will another gun law change anything?

Plainsman
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Plainsman
January 12, 2013 6:25 am

Right, and PM never DID answer Shapiro’s question about banning hand guns.

Another point that gun rights advocates like Shapiro don’t make: lefties want a TOTAL ban on ALL guns. And the sick part is that within the left’s hardest core demographic, the Bill Ayers types, there is an evil component that truly doesn’t care about the mass murders, except as might serve their evil purposes. They are like vultures, constantly scanning the landscape for another mass murder to jump on with emotion, fueling passionate hype about guns and the need for more control, asking what seem to be no-brainer questions like “why does anybody need an AR15?” when all the while their real motive is a total ban, which will give them total control, allowing them to become the mass murderers.

Sidekick
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Sidekick
January 12, 2013 6:30 am

That in a nutshell is the agenda.

flashingscotsman
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January 12, 2013 8:51 am

I sincerely believe that Obama is in this same group.

Missile Command
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Missile Command
January 12, 2013 4:32 am

Piers the pompous ass exemplifies exactly the arrogant, dishonest and ignorant liberal world view. I can see why this fool chose media for a career. An industry replete with group think, know-it-all morons, all government worshiping lemmings just like himself.

Jayhawk46
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Jayhawk46
January 11, 2013 8:01 pm

I think that Piers must be a masochist. I think he enjoys being slapped around.

danybhoy
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danybhoy
January 11, 2013 8:08 pm

No, he’s actually getting attention now. No such thing as bad press with this guy. His ratings suck & he knows CNN wants better ratings. If becoming a ligtning rod once a week gets him that attention, he’ll do it. That does’nt work long term, guys like Keith Olbermann, commit career suicide by doing what Morgan is doing, & his American TV career won’t be a long 1.

flashingscotsman
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January 12, 2013 4:22 pm

He does have that “I like getting slapped around” look to him though.

danybhoy
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danybhoy
January 13, 2013 5:24 am

He has the money to pay chicks to abuse him if he wanted to.

flashingscotsman
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January 13, 2013 9:57 am

I was thinking maybe guys in leather chaps and biker hats.

danybhoy
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danybhoy
January 13, 2013 6:20 pm

Maybe. Could also be things like whips, restraints, discipline, & other forms of S & M. Some folks reqiure some weird sh!t to get them off, so who knows? BTW, I don’t want to know.

danybhoy
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danybhoy
January 11, 2013 7:43 pm

Piers, I’ll make this really simple for you…

1. We know you hate guns, & you want to ban them.

2. Get 288 members of the House to vote for a gun ban

3. Get 67 Senators to vote for a gun ban

4. Get 38 States to go along with your proposed gun ban.

5. You then would have the 28th Amendment, overturning the 2nd Amendment.

…until then, you can shut your effing mouth.
That goes for E V E R Y O N E!

Obama
Biden
Emanual
Bloomberg
Cuomo
Fienstein
Pelosi

Whoever, whatever, does’nt matter. Follow the effing law, & if you don’t like what the constitutions says, change it… LEGALLY.

Joe
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Joe
January 12, 2013 1:23 am

They’d have to come and take them of course… That won’t go well, for us or them.

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49
January 12, 2013 8:01 am

Less well for them.

flashingscotsman
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January 13, 2013 9:53 am

When they come to get them, put Piers and Fienstien in the lead.

Big Al
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Big Al
January 11, 2013 4:57 pm

I like this Shapiro guy but for Piers sake I wish dueling was still legal. We could learn a lot from Andrew Jackson.

davidintexas
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davidintexas
January 11, 2013 5:39 pm

Good point but that would require testosterone – of which Congressional Republicans have NONE.

flashingscotsman
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January 11, 2013 7:17 pm

Thank you David.

flashingscotsman
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January 12, 2013 4:20 pm

And thank YOU, Fweetness. I like the warm fuzzy feeling we get when you’re paying attention.

davidintexas
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davidintexas
January 11, 2013 4:29 pm

Piers Morgan is to intelligent discussion as Bill Clinton is to fidelity. Talk amongst yourselves.

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49
January 11, 2013 6:58 pm

Piers Morgan is to intelligent discussion as Barack Obama is to austerity.

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