Revenge for the Opium Wars: China treats the U.S. like a drug dealer teasing a pathetic junkie

by editor on June 18, 2009

Sad to say, that's us, squatting in some squalid alley getting our daily fix of Chinese money.

Sad to say, that's us, squatting in some squalid alley getting our daily fix of Chinese money.

The Obama administration just concluded climate negotiations with China. No breakthroughs were achieved, but at least both nations now understand their respective roles:

China is the drug dealer, America is the junkie. They have the really good stuff we want: money. Just like any good drug dealer, they got us hooked with cheap prices, but now that we’re addicted the price they demand is going up.

Here’s how the Financial Times reports the results of the Obama administration’s recent climate negotiations with China:

Todd Stern, President Barack Obama’s special envoy on climate change, tried to sound optimistic when the US delegation ended its China visit but could hardly conceal that little had been achieved…

Chinese officials maintained that the two countries should have a “common but differentiated approach” – code for Beijing’s reluctance to adopt a formal domestic mandate to reduce its carbon emissions. The US Congress is considering a bill that would reduce US emissions to 83 per cent of 2005 levels by 2020. China wants the US to cut its emissions to 40 per cent below 1990 levels by 2020 – a different order of magnitude. It also wants the US to pledge up to 1 per cent of its gross domestic product to pay for clean technology in China and elsewhere.

Read that again. The Chinese want us to cripple American industry with carbon emission regulations from which they’ll be exempt. Then they want us to pay them 1% of our GDP to give the latest technology to their industries.

Sadly enough, we’ll probably do it because we’re addicted to their money. And like any good junkie, we’ll steal to feed our habit. Unfortunately, we’re stealing from our children and grandchildren.

Source: Financial Times via Tim Blair

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Now RIM, come on! Everything you said are geared towards accusing me of somehow accusing you of something. But I never accused you of anything!! All I did was respond to an article that says China isn’t doing anything. That’s ALL!!

(1) Your point 4 says “… China isn’t the ONLY nation that …”.

But I NEVER said China is the only nation that is doing something. Read my comment again. I said China is doing this together with other nations.

(2) Your point 3 says “… somehow just bend over for China …”.

Again, I NEVER even implied anything EVEN CLOSE to that. The article I am responding to says China is not doing anything, and therefore my response. I am just responding to an unfounded accuastion. And there should be nothing wrong with that. If someone was accusing you of something you don’t agree with, I am sure you would do the same.

(3) RE : “… If, as you say, it was the West that pushed for it …”

Well, it certainly didn’t come from our side. You personally may not agree with global warming theories, but the theories and the push for change certainly came from the West.

(4) RE : “… people like you who have been duped into believing that we even need to negotiate with China …”

Again, you are accusing the wrong person. I don’t hold any vews WHATSOEVER about whether the US should or should not negotiate with China on carbon emissions. And just in case you are wondering — as far as I know, neither did China invite the US to come to negotiate. It was the US who wanted to come to negotiate. And my guess is the US wants this because it needs an agreement with China to save itself from embarrassment in Copenhagen in December (not from the Chinese, but from Europe).

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RIM, let me repeat again that I am not accusing you and we are not competing with you. I am just responding to an article that is accusing us. That’s all.

By the way, you are welcome to browse around on my blogsite. I have American hardline conservatives (probably very much like yourself) on my side of debates. So maybe (just maybe) there isn’t so much difference between us.

http://chinablogs.wordpress.com/

(My alias there is “Chan”)

Plainsman
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1.I am complaining, right here and now, about people like you who have been duped into believing that we even need to negotiate with China on anything related to carbon emissions, period. With the current liberal leadership that we have in the US we will always come out on the short end of the stick in negotiations with someone like China.

Don’t worry, I’m complaining. I tell my Representatives and Senators all the time that they are making the wrong decisions on climate change/AGW.

2. “It was the WEST who pushed for it.” WHAT? If, as you say, it was the West that pushed for “it”, then why did we not sign the Kyoto Treaty, POS that it is. There’s something off there.

3. Christian Parenti? The Puffin Foundation? The Nation Institute? This is supposed to be proof positive that we should somehow just bend over for China? Get Real.

4. Big Deal! China isn’t the ONLY nation that is experimenting with alternative sources of power. http://www.pppl.gov/index.cfm

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(1) RE : “… dozens of articles monthly (at least) that fan anger at the US …”

If that is the case, and you don’t like it, it’s your job to complain. Not mine.
In any case, what you said doesn’t invalidate what I said in any way. It isn’t like there is a competition here. I am merely responding to the claims in the article here.

(2) RE : “… ‘no other country’ including the US, SHOULD come close …”

Fine. It WAS the West who pushed for it. It is almost as if you push the developing countries to do this, and when they’ve done it, and it’s now your turn, you simply change tune.

(3) RE : “… Point 3 – BS! …”

Here is one of the many references : http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090504/parenti/print
( Author of that report I quoted was Christian Parenti. Here is a description of him and his articles :
http://www.thenation.com/directory/bios/christian_parenti )

(4) RE : “… Point 4 – I don’t believe it! …”

No worries. But if you want to know more about it, here is the original report :
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-09/28/content_699035.htm

And it’s been reported all over the internet, including this science heavyweight :
http://www.physorg.com/news88097920.html

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RIM, you may not like what I say, but I am not in any way against you or competing with you (see point 1 above). I am merely responding to an article.

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That article you quoted is yet another example of the media trying to vilify the Chinese and its government.

The 2nd paragraph in that news article (” … code for Beijing’s reluctance to adopt … to reduce its carbon emissions.”) is clearly designed to mislead the public and fan anger at China and the Chinese government. In fact, what they didn’t say is that :

(1) China is by far one of the largest (if not THE largest) investor in green energy in the entire world.

(2) On top of that, China has just announced YET another US$440bn to expand its renewable energy use. As far as I know, no other country on this planet even come close.

(3) China’s commitment to fight climate change didn’t just start today. Even back in 2006, China’s efforts to fight climate change was ahead of most countries. Back then, China unilaterally kicked off the most aggressive energy-efficiency program in the history of the entire world, which aimed to produce carbon dioxide emissions reduction almost 5 TIMES greater than the ENTIRE European Union had committed to achieve under the Kyoto Protocol.

(4) On top of all this, China which was already by far the world’s leader in thermonuclear fusion technology in 2007, is also going to contribute billions in the world’s most expensive clean energy project (ITER) together with a few other countries. This clean energy project was originally spearheaded by NONE OTHER THAN China in 2006 to create the so-called “artificial sun”.

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The reason for the US to go to China for negotiations is not to save the world from global warming, but to save itself from the embarrasements in Copenhagen this December, because the US simply cannot match the efforts of the Chinese government.

Plainsman
Member

Oh, Horse Feathers!

“mislead the public and fan anger at China and the Chinese government”

So, this would be AN article which is supposedly fanning anger at China, against, oh let’s just say dozens of articles monthly (at least) that fan anger at the US.. about EVERYTHING not just AGW.

“China has just announced YET another US$440bn to expand its renewable energy use. As far as I know, no other country on this planet even come close.”

And “no other country” including the US, SHOULD come close to blindly spending billions on wind, thermal, and other renewable energy sources. If people want to use wind power.. fine.. but don’t make US taxpayers foot the bill for the whole damn globe!

Point 3 – BS!

Point 4 – I don’t believe it!

“..the US simply cannot match the efforts of the Chinese government.”

Poppycock!!

Plainsman
Member

We are going to be conquered so easily if we let these bastards dictate our economic future in this manner.

The masses need to understand that this AGW/Climate Change agenda is a pure and total fraud!

There is nothing wrong with conserving resources and otherwise being responsible for our environment, but what charlatans like Algore and Prez Barry and many others currently in power right now have done is to inflame this issue to the media, brainwashing the masses into thinking that the planet is going to extinguish itself in a major climate driven catastrophe that can only be avoided by turning off our AC’s, switching to pedal power, stop using toilet paper, start using those awful CFL bulbs, and on and on.

It’s CRAP, I tell you, utter CRAP!

Administrator
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It’s CRAP, I tell you, utter CRAP!
I see you’ll fit right in here at I Hate the Media. 🙂

Plainsman
Member

Thanks, I’m doing my best. R

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