Democrats having second thoughts about Charlotte for convention? Despite public assertions that the DNC is staying, angry reactions by the party’s rank-and-file to last Tuesday’s vote outlawing gay marriage in NC has Dem officials privately wondering if Charlotte is the best place to launch Barack II, The Sequel. Well, don’t go to West Virginia, BO barely beat a convict in the primary there.

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drb
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drb
May 12, 2012 3:39 am

Over-all, I think the analysts are reading too much meaning into the vote to outlaw gay-marriage and civil unions in NC. Only 14% of voters turned out to vote in the first place. So 86% stayed home. I think what that really mean is that in the minds of most North Carolinians,1) the nomonies have already been selected (Romney v Obama) so what difference does it make to vote in the primary? and 2) In terms of gay-marriage, most here view it as something that has no effect on their daily lives and could careless either way. So they just left it up to those who do care about it (appearantly 14% of the voting population) and let “he who cares most” win. Charlotte is a very liberal city, and they have a large gay population there and it is openly on display there. I don’t think the Dems will have much to worry about there. It’s the rest of the State that they will have to contend with and that is a mixed bag.

Alien
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Alien
May 12, 2012 8:32 am

hmm i didn’t realize that primary vote coincided with the ammendment vote. So if there’d been a contested democrat primary, the results might’ve been much much different.

Well i think we all know its heading to SCOTUS within a decade. Though both Obama and Romney say it should be up to the states, it will be pressed

drb
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drb
May 12, 2012 9:08 am

Well we also had some other elections taking place too (on the State level, judges and what not…things I should probably pay more attention to but do not) so Dems should have come out to vote as well.

drb
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drb
May 12, 2012 9:20 am

side note…I received my notice in the mail about when to vote and where along with who was running for which spots, etc. I’m not registered as a Republican so I couldn’t participate in the primary election but the State wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the other elections going on and what we non-republicans could vote on. so there are no excuses for anyone who is registered in the state not to know what was up for their individual votes. They just didn’t turn out for it. everyone here knew when the amendment one vote would take place…if they had a clear preference one way or the other, they had their chance to vote for or against. I know this one gay couple that was going around telling everyone they know how and when to vote on the amendment but when it came time to cast that vote where were they?? In Florida on vacation. So, clearly they didn’t care enough to stay here and vote their preference.

Alien
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Alien
May 12, 2012 9:47 am

Agreed, voter apathy is inexcusable.. and like you i don’t have room in my brains for all the judges etc.. I guess that’s why so many vote on party lines.

that’s hilarious about the Florida vacation couple, btw

drb
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drb
May 12, 2012 9:51 am

Re Fl vaca…I thought so too

flashingscotsman
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May 13, 2012 9:33 am

I always, ALWAYS, vote by mail. no excuses.

sa_rose
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sa_rose
May 11, 2012 6:32 am

They can’t afford to move the convention at this late date. It will be in CHarlotte, and there iwll be some picketing, etc that they will use toshow that NC residents are simply backward, intolerant CHRISTIANS, and no one should listen to anything they say.

EXFED4
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May 11, 2012 11:35 am

Yep and the libs will send in some reneck looking shills to look stupid and make trouble. No offense meant to all the good and patriotic rednecks!

drb
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drb
May 11, 2012 3:44 pm

IDK about all that…Charlotte is a predominately liberal town

Sidekick
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Sidekick
May 11, 2012 3:54 pm

Here in Tampa is where the real horror show will be. The GOP convention will be ugly…..at least that is what the conventional wisdom says. I plan to be right in the middle of it too. Can’t wait.

drb
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drb
May 11, 2012 4:02 pm

Yes, I can see that from waaaaay up here. 😉

Fenster314
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Fenster314
May 10, 2012 2:02 pm

I think San Francisco should be gay friendly enough. Not to mention lots of those OWS folks to support them.

Elrond Hubbard
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Elrond Hubbard
May 10, 2012 12:55 pm

North Carolina is a very important state in Obama’s reelection plans, it’s one of those states he has to carry to win in November. Accordingly, after the hoopla dies down, the Democrat convention will be held in Charlotte.

Alien
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Alien
May 10, 2012 2:30 pm

I always thought N.C. was one of a few bonus states he had last time around.. its not like Romney and Ohio, for instance

actually, seems to me like they are heavy on a western strategy.. lots of visits to Colorado lately and more to come

Sidekick
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Sidekick
May 10, 2012 2:03 pm

Very doubtful he takes North Carolina in November. It was close last time and Bev Purdue has really screwed the place up since then. Drb, do you agree?

drb
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drb
May 11, 2012 2:06 pm

Yes and no…I think NC is a “toss up” state. (hope I’m wrong on that but that’s what I think). Bev Purdue DID screw things up and people around here are quite upset with her (especially with the voter ID veto). However the inemployement here is higher than the national average. (around 10.2% for the State 10.6% here in Greensboro) So, we have many who are dependant on help from the government. A second home on my street was foreclosed on last month (they had been trying to sell it before that could happen but after 3 years on the maeket it never sold.) And another neighbor was laid off 2 and a half years ago. He took unemployment till it ran out then officially retired. Down in Randolph county, things are even worse. There are many who think we Obama’s policies are wrongheaded but they are afraid of benefits ending and no jobs to be found. College kids who have lived here all their lives are looking for jobs out of state…My BFF’s son just took a job down in TX for the summer even though he will be returning at the end of August to finish his senior year. I have seen plenty of Obama 2012 ssticker on carsas I drive to and from work but to be honest I have also seen Obama 2008 sticker that have the scars and scratches of attempted removeal as well. Others that I have talked to say they think the “Fix is in” and that Obama will be re-elected even though they themselves want him voted out. I hope they are wrong. I know some who say they aren’t even going to bother with voting and I know others who are out there trying to convince people to register to vote and to vote against Obama. And yes I have heard it repeated more than one the they would vote for a ham sandwich over Obama but I have also seen people wearing Obama leather jackets ( think we know how they will vote). So there you have it…I wrote a book just to say your guess is as good as mine! 😉 I hope I am pleasantly surprised in November.

Sidekick
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Sidekick
May 11, 2012 3:51 pm

I was hoping for a more optimistic assessment but your rationale makes good sense. Even the media is beginning to turn on him (ever so slightly) but if that trend continues the jabs will get more vicious. Just like in 1980 and Jimmy Carter.

Even with the usual Democratic shenanigans, the voter fraud won’t be enough to counter an electoral sea change that will make 2010 just a warm up. People are really worried about their kids’ futures and that will drive votes against Obama. Even my life-long Democrat mother-in-law (from NC, BTW) just switched to the GOP. I don’t think she is alone.

drb
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drb
May 11, 2012 4:11 pm

Yes I understand your point of view, but I have seen just enough”pro-Obama” around here to make me a bit gun-shy (so to speak) about making any definative statement on it. There are days when I’m sure the over all vote will be against Obama. But then I come across some evidence to the contray and I start thinking that maybe I’m putting to much stock in my own wishful thinking. I’d like to say there are more who will vote against Obama rather than for Obama, but I can’t be sure of it just yet. Sad statement though isn’t it…vote against Obama rather than “FOR” Romney. Not many here care for Romney either so if anything it’s that anybody but Obama mentality.

Sidekick
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Sidekick
May 11, 2012 7:07 pm

I’m warming up to Romney. Can’t explain exactly why but my gut tells me he will be a lot better than many think. For example, he won’t lie awake nights worrying about whether the Department of Education is constitutional or not like Ron Paul might do but I think he will look at it from a cost/benefit POV and slash its size and scope on that basis. He also is staying on message despite the lame hit pieces and shiny objects the media/Dems toss out for consumption. That works for me.

drb
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drb
May 16, 2012 8:45 am

Ok, I feel better now…it might not be my wishful thinking after all.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/16/romney-up-8-in-north-carolina

FormerlyDeanH
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FormerlyDeanH
May 12, 2012 5:31 am

Warming to romney myself but it is only marginally different from the nose holding, ballot casting vote of the last presidential cycle. I find him less than desirable and untrustworthy. I loathe voting for the lesser of two evils, but that’s how its been since 1988.

Sidekick
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Sidekick
May 12, 2012 5:37 am

True enough.

drb
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drb
May 12, 2012 10:55 am
FormerlyDeanH
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FormerlyDeanH
May 12, 2012 3:03 pm

That’s about right.

PsychoDad
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PsychoDad
May 10, 2012 12:27 pm

Why not West Virginia?

danybhoy
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danybhoy
May 10, 2012 9:47 pm

I would love to see that. Maybe the United Mine Workers could axe Obama, the DNC, & those controling our energy agenda about why they wish to see coal fire powerplants go away.

ooddballz
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ooddballz
May 10, 2012 12:23 pm

No matter WHERE they go0, I predict an epic fail.
Any one have the latest Vegas odds on Obumma’s chances?

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