Louisiana petitions “to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.” Every avalanche starts with a handful of snow sliding. Just sayin’.

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CO2Insanity
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I can see Obama comparing himself to Lincoln if this gets very popular.

poppajoe49
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I can see Obama comparing himself to Lincoln if this gets very popular.

Would that mean he would meet the same end?

Not so silent
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Seen any good plays lately?…:)

RobertW
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Harry Hawk killed (as it were) with this line:
“Don’t know the manners of good society, eh? Well, I guess I know enough to turn you inside out, old gal — you sockdologizing old man-trap.”

RobertW
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well moocherelle already as good as called him the Anointed, so that’d be a step down, well maybe more than a step. actually, a whole flight of stairs.

xsstevec@yahoo.com
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My wife and I started one for South Carolina! Here is the link, come join the fun!
Sign our petition and create your own secession petition!
http://wh.gov/9UgO

RobertW
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I’d like to, but there’s 2 things stopping me.
1. barry is called President up on the header of the page.
2. You’re too civil, kind, and didn’t really enumerate the reasons why you’re asking to secede to succeed.

RobertW
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this is how it’s done!
The U.S. continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the U.S. suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect its citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnAPvDXcadg

fight4freedom
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all things have small beginnings! The petition may have been formed by the people and not by the state, but it was submitted to the Obama adminestration petition board. Even if it is thrown out it is still raising awarness to what is going on! Texas being a soveriegn state i dont understand why they would need a petition when in all actuallity they can pull out anytime. I have seen more shit talk on sites like these (not including this one) from people who have no idea what they are talking about saying things like, well let the southern states withdraw will see who needs who, o they cant remember what happen last time they did this and they lost the civil war, or my favorite we’ll let the U.N pearcfully resolve the issue. HAHA ok for starters the South controls over 96% of the nations oil and gas, ports, industry and food not to include NASA is in Texas so there goes that! The civil war was not about slavery as history will so make it out to be it was about heavey taxation, goverment opression and control of our ports the same thing that is starting to happen now with the Obama adminstration (we clearly do not relye on or need the north as we did in the 1800’s it is in totall reverse). As the U.N goes are any of you aware of what has been going on this week? Obama is trying to give the U.N the right to come into our country and take our guns by force any oppossed is to be shoot! Obama can say what he wants about its only for small firearms and assault rifles, but really reasearch the U.N’s version of this treaty and you will find it to be not so! If this treaty is passed you wont have to worrie about the states withdrawing and starting a war, this treaty alone will start a war because no one will openly give up their rights to bare arms and if they do they are not american and they are giving into tyreeny. Americans have long forgotten that they are in controle of the goverment not the other way around and the second admendment clearly states that we have the right to bare arms and start a melitia and over throw our goverment when their acts are deemed un-constitutional to our rights as an american! So why is over half the country ignorant and blindly follow the Obama adminestration? And yes I am from La and i signed the petition!! I appoligize if i am not totally clear on some of the things i have so much i would like say going through my mind

Alien
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Unless I missed something, how does a treaty abrogate the 2nd Ammendment?

ooddballz
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Unless I missed something, how does a treaty abrogate the 2nd Amendment?

I don’t think it does, but your 2nd amendment rights can punch holes in any treaty.
Just sayin’

Kip Hooker
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There has long been a question as to if a treaty ratified by the Senate or even Presidential agreements will carry the full force of the Constitution and abrogate anything that preceded it due to some of the wording in Article VI (This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.). Who knows really . . . but I suppose if they can use the general welfare clause to free themselves of the limits of enumeration (even if the clause was never intended so and even if it had been would have been abrogated by the 10th Amendment) and the authority to levy taxes as a catch all granting congress unlimited power of compulsion (so long as a tax is involved) and if imminent domain has been extended to Walmart in order to ensure their right to take your property . . . well I guess using this as a method of suppressing the 2nd Amendment wouldn’t really surprise me.

Alien
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Damn Founder English.. I am thinking that anything in the Constitution or
Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding
covers us, though..

In essence, Treaties are (part of) supreme law of land, notwithstanding what’s already existing in the Constitution

I need to buy ammo though.. I’m sure dude at gunshop will tell me all about it.. I need to find a place to take daughter shooting. Promised her at 10 years old.. $#*()$# that came up quick

PsychoDad
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Didn’t we hash this over before recently? Read it again, you got the right bit — it’s referring to the constitutions of the states, not the US Const. Simply establishing that A treaty is Federal law and trumps state law, if there are discrepencies. I do not believe anyone has ever asserted that an international treaty which contained de facto un-Constitutional provisions would supercede the USC.

Of course when this was written, about the sum total of what they were thinking of woulda been alliances and trade/tariff deals. This was intended to prevent states from making their own deals on the side which might conflict with Fed. agreements and possibly undercut other states — for example if Virginia charged a penny a pound tax on imported fabric or something, and Maryland decided the same stuff could come in for free.

Kip Hooker
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That is how I would read it . . . but if it can be manipulated into something it is not some will try.

poppajoe49
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Aside from a few typos, you are crystal clear, and we agree with you.

fight4freedom
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ha i will admit typing has never been a strong point for me, but i am glade there are people who understands what i am talking about and what is going on in this country and why these states are wanting to withdrawl. so far that i understand louisiana, mississippi, alabama, texas and missiouri have started petitioning

RobertW
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your candor is refreshing Fight!
as well your early American spelling skills. did you know that it wasn’t until i believe the late 19th, early 20th century, that most Americans spelled pretty much however they wanted to? Yep.
Glad you’re here, hope to get more of your input in days to come!

danybhoy
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RobertW
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Well, he was a KGB analyst, but at least he doesn’t dislike Americans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9uK41gvqU

And since they seem to be farming enough wheat for themselves that will mean more for us, instead of the govt. paying farmers NOT to grow wheat. (do they still do that?)

Sidekick
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If Texas follows a path that they have threatened to do over the years and pull out, I’m going. I was born at St. Davis Hospital in Austin and I will (re)declare my citizenship.

deepthinker
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Nice city, family and friends live there.

Not so silent
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Can you adopt me?

PsychoDad
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I’m nothin’ but a Damyankee born n bred, and I’ve crossed words here and there with friends and acquaintances over some aspects of that “Late Unpleasantness,” but by God and Jeff Davis if anybody starts pulling free of DC now, I’ll be there if I have to row my family and myself from Cape Cod Bay right up the Calcasieu Waterway to Lake Charles.

An I aint just whistlin’ “Dixie!”

NodakSuz
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If we draw a line down the middle of the country than swing to the right and include the southern states that would form the letter ‘L’, which would stand for LIBERTY!

deepthinker
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If they do, I suggest they get with Texas and form a country. I’ll be moving soon after that if der leader hasn’t restricted movement without proper papers.

poppajoe49
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If it gets legs, I could see all the Gulf Coast states joining in on this, then GA, SC, NC, WV, TN, and a few others would likely join.

drb
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RobertW
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newsmax reported 20 states.

drb
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RobertW
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again they’re behind, Texas has already surpassed the number set by the WH for a response. But, barry’s gonna weasel out of responding directly to Texas’ petition by foisting it off on some sub-oval office functionary.

drb
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ok it’s 24 states now…Louisiana, Texas, Alabama, North Carolina, Florida, Kentucky, Michigan, Indiana, Montana, North Dakota, New Jersey, Oregon, Colorado, New York, Minnesota, Tennessee, Missouri, Georgia, South Carolina, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Nevada

poppajoe49
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New York and New Jersey?
That’s a kinda futile effort.

RobertW
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Nevada? wow, they must wanna cozy up to all the wealth in Texas.

but barry’s not gonna take any notice until over half the 57 cantons as well as the international bridge toll booth attendants petition.

drb
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Yeah Nevada too, but it is the newest so it still has a longway to go to get the signatures it needs.

NodakSuz
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If it works, perhaps all the Red States in the middle of the country would join in as well. That would leave the east and west to figure out what to do next – LOL.

Not so silent
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I mentioned that the other day, You realize who would control the bulk of oil production, food, manufacturing etc if these states did this? Where do I sign? I’m ready for the new version of the country. One that damn well does not include Kalifornia and it’s political corruption.

poppajoe49
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As well as NJ, NY, and the New England liberals.
Let them make their own welfare state and leave us out of it!

Not so silent
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Split the country right down the middle, charge liberals a fee to pass thru or fly over…..border guards to keep out the liberal unwashed, no allowing them to move in unless they are self supporting….

hisham
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“no allowing them to move in unless they are self supporting….”

They wouldn’t be liberals then! Well, you know what I mean.

Not so silent
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WE have one good bingo, are there any others, please hold your cards…:)

poppajoe49
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That line would have to run coast to coast, with a blip north to include WY and the Dakotas, and a blip south to include NM

RobertW
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Not So Silent:
That would be one sure way to reverse the post 1950’s exodus.
Also, I think it’d be advisable that these Liberty States stock up on (maybe even hoard) tetanus vaccines, that way they can engage in commerce with detroitistan. Or do you think that’d be going to far?

Not so silent
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All conservatives welcome, Liberal staters would not be allowed and would be arrested and deported to Detroitistan

poppajoe49
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I think trying to impose martial law on Louisiana is one sure way to get lots of National Guard members killed, unless they follow their conscious and not orders.

Angry Southerner
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I would not mess with the “bitter clingers” in Louisiana. Most of them are a lot better with there weapons and skills than your average weekend warrior

Alien
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Hey now.. I tested Expert back then (grenadier, too)

But yeah, no interest in Civil War redux. And I don’t have any grenades either

RobertW
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Very nice Alien.

say, re Natl. Guard, Louisiana, and movies, any of y’all ever seen southern comfort?

poppajoe49
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Then too, they have quite a few automatic weapons in Louisiana too!
You ever watch Sons of Guns?

Not so silent
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I wish I could play with some of those guns…Damn that looks like fun…Nothing like the smell of gunpowder in the morning!

ooddballz
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Seems some OTHER folks down south tried that once already….Hope it works out better this time.

Missile Command
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This is on the whitehouse.gov site? A new list of folks on which Valerie can take out her revenge. And if such a thing gets pressed I can see dear leader sending federal troops to impose marshal law to “protect” minorities.

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