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The end of the university as we know it. Intellectuals are busy with outrageously expensive construction projects to expand on-campus infrastructure, while the higher ed bubble is preparing to burst and educational methodology is about to go virtual… and these are the same brainiacs Obama has running the country.

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Sidekick
December 19, 2012 1:42 pm

I totally agree with this assessment as the race to build buildings and add head count will end in financial disaster at many schools as they fail to fill their beds. The good and adaptable professors will do fine teaching at the virtual university.

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ooddballz
December 19, 2012 2:15 pm

Wow, now I’m kinda torn……between hysterical laughter and dancing a jig on the grave of the indoctrination system.
Perhaps I will just laugh hysterically while dancing a jig.

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Dan
December 20, 2012 5:55 am

Stories such as this make me just wanna wish that the Myans had it right. Oh well, 12-21-2012 is nearly hear…BRING IT! LOL :-)

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poppajoe49
December 20, 2012 7:18 am

Does this mean an end to raving professors lecturing about their political beliefs in calculus class?

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Sidekick
December 20, 2012 7:26 am

Funny you said that. The professors I had did not rave but they interjected their politics. I remember taking Midldle East Politics at the time Sadat was assissinated. This was only two years after the Iranian revolution and I clearly remember my PhD professor, who was also a veteran of the Peace Corp. say matter of factly that the Arabs and Iranians just were not ready to change either by “Westernizing” or being free. In other words, subjugation was their natural state. I swallowed that bs hook, line, and sinker for years. I was only reminded of this as my son and were talking about college last night.

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sa_rose
December 20, 2012 10:15 am

Well, he was sort of right. They overthrew the Shah, then were subugated by the Ayatollah Khomeni and company. They had been more westernized, then went backwards under the Muslim religious rule. Egypt just dumped on dicatator, then basically elected another one, and now are being subugated by the Muslim Brotherhood. And everyone in the Middle East (except Israel) hats the West in general and the US in particular.

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Sidekick
December 20, 2012 10:37 am

The point he tried to make, in my view, is that the Iranians should never have tried too move into the 20th century before 1979.

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jcrowley1985
December 20, 2012 9:42 am

Universities, like all other industries, are just another branch of Corporate Greed’s tyranny.

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sa_rose
December 20, 2012 10:15 am

Said by someone sho couldn’t be successful in College if he had all the answer sheets to the tests.

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jcrowley1985
December 20, 2012 10:20 am

What do you have to back up that claim? Actually, it doesn’t matter. If I had hypothetically been someone who you believe could be successful in college by your standards, would you agree that higher ed is a sham more interested in profits then it’s true purpose of education; ie: Corporate Greed.

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sa_rose
December 20, 2012 10:26 am

A university is not a Corporation. Do I think American schools in particular are more interested in money than education? Yes. But “corporate greed” does not apply to every cheat the systems have. Your failure to grasp that is indication of your lack of critical thinking skills.

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jcrowley1985
December 20, 2012 10:31 am

If it’s not, it exhibits the same type of financial corruption that other Corporations show. Higher ups like bank ceos and university presidents giving themselves huge bonuses and incentives at the expense of taxpayer bailouts and higher tuition respectively. All under the guise that both would use that extra money to improve each of their services but rather pocket it for the few at the top and screw over those consumers who keep them up there.

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poppajoe49
December 20, 2012 4:29 pm

The only thing you seem to be able to exhibit is the fact that you are a stupid fucking asshole.

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jcrowley1985
December 20, 2012 4:39 pm

Well, I guess Corporate Greed would think I’m an asshole for finding out the truth about them.

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poppajoe49
December 20, 2012 8:10 pm

Ron Paul thinks you’re a stupid fucking asshole.

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sa_rose
December 21, 2012 9:08 am

Corporate Greed is a non entity. There is no THEM. It is a description of behaviour only. Which is why you inappropriate use of the term is so annoying and rarely applies to the posts at hand.

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December 20, 2012 5:28 pm

@PJ49

LMAO!

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poppajoe49
December 20, 2012 8:17 pm

What the fuck would you know about corporations?
You’ve never held a real job!
Working for the census only qualifies you to speak about counting to 10, which any 3 year old that has ever watched Sesame Street is capable of.
You have no inside information about corporations, because you’ve never worked for one, so you have no clue.
You need to speak to what you know, living off of your parents, living off of the government, sitting in the basement watching reruns of Jesse Ventura’s Conspiracy Theory television show, and counting to 10. None of which will get you to the point where you will ever be self sufficient, so we have resigned ourselves to the fact that we will be supporting you until either we or you die.
You must be so proud of yourself.

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jcrowley1985
December 20, 2012 8:25 pm

Correction, you will be supporting Corporate Greed’s corrupt military industrial complex and bailouts until you die, as that is where most of your money goes; to countries that hate us anyway. You must be proud of yourself.

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poppajoe49
December 20, 2012 8:27 pm

I am proud of myself, I am self supporting, I employ others, and I don’t get a fucking thing from the government that I didn’t earn.
Too bad you will never be able to say the same.

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sa_rose
December 21, 2012 9:17 am

That military industrial complex is what’s allowing you the privilege of spewing your rants on this site. After WWI, the military was seriouly defunded, because the war was over, and it was the war to end ALL wars, so we didn’t need the military anyore, Right? They sent Marines off to places like the Dominican Republic to serve as policemen and train the native population so they could police themselves (any of this sound familiar?) WWII comes around and we are pure out of luck. The country is coming our of the great depression, people (including draftable men) were malnourishes, had untreated medical and dental problems and were weak and under developed. We had minimal weaponry and hardly any Officers and Non coms to teach incoming draftees. Our guys were drilling with brooms and sticks becuase there were no guns (another familiar refrain!) The standing theory is that if England had not held out as long as they did, We would have lost the war, and everyone “would be speaking German!” You clearly no nothing about the military, the government, Corporations or anything else. You parrot the propaganda without thought and that makes you of the same ilk that knew… Read more »

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sa_rose
December 20, 2012 10:24 am

I understand the tendency to move toward online education, but I would hate to see a brick and mortar university setting go by the wayside. For all its faults, there are some great advantages to that type of education that go beyond just the material. I know people now getting online degrees, and while they are busy busy busy writing papers and “answering disussion questions,” ad taking tests, I don’t see any real learning going on. It is the usual school game of vomiting back information provided but on steroids. Many of the students don’t exactly do their own work, they do minimal research on the subjects they write about, and 6 weeks later can’t even remember what material they covered. I have seen projects that are average for a high school classes being praised as though they were Earthshaking revelations, and 100% grades are handed out for stuff I wouldn’t have gotten away with in Junior high. I am sure some students are better than others, and that some programs are more demanding than others, but in general they are paying the same as they would to go to Harvardor any other top tier school, but they are not… Read more »

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December 20, 2012 11:49 am

You’re dreaming if you think kids are learning social skills in college. They’re learning to borrow more money than they can pay, they’re getting brainwashed into self-destructive political beliefs that will destroy their chances at happieness later, and they’re getting drunk.

Far more valuable social skills are learned when high school grads get their first full-time job and get smacked in the face with economic realities.

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sa_rose
December 21, 2012 9:18 am

So true! I keep fprgetting that College has changed since I was there back in the dark ages!

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December 21, 2012 9:39 am

College is now a place to learn binge drinking, and gain liberal indoctrination. That’s why so many graduates are flipping burgers. You can get something useful out of it if you really work at it, but it’s difficult, and you have to have some intelligence going in.

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poppajoe49
December 21, 2012 10:51 pm

That’s why so many graduates are flipping burgers.

Or living in their mother’s basement, obsessing over RP and CG.

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danybhoy
December 21, 2012 12:37 am

How many colleges are better known for their college football & basketball programs then they are for producing people who make the world better?

Also, it’s sad that the only people who earn their saleries are the coaches of those programs who actually bring a return of the school’s investment. They actually turn a profit, yeah, I know, greedy profits. Instead of the gender studies professor who pulls down a 6 figure salary, teaches once every 2 weeks, & produces no students that have any value to the general public outside of teaching “gender studies” or being hired into HR departments who are effing up everything in this world.

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