“Where are the tax revenues? … We got nothing,” Norah O’Donnell beseeches Jay Carney

by editor on August 2, 2011

CBS White House correspondent Norah O’Donnell showed her true colors Monday. In a post-debt ceiling session she confronted Press Secretary Jay Carney with what cannot be interpreted as an impartial question.

Commentary Magazine has the details:

… CBS’s Norah O’Donnell peppered Carney with terse, accusatory questions about the lack of tax revenue (read: tax increases) in the debt ceiling deal. O’Donnell complained about how many GOP demands were met by the deal, and then said to Carney: “You gave them everything they wanted and we got nothing.”

We? We as in liberal Democrats?

Would someone please tell the pretty, but dimwitted reporter that she’s not supposed to reveal that kind of thing in public?

Source: Commentary Magazine

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LA Sunset August 2, 2011 at 3:58 pm

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//“Where are the tax revenues? … We got nothing,”//

Translation:

You bastards. We trusted you to punish those evil rich people, some of whom pay our upper middle class salaries……. You had a chance to stick it to them good, those greedy capitalist pigs. And you didn’t. We got nothing. You bastards.

Big Al August 2, 2011 at 4:10 pm

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I am not popping any champagne corks I think that the country is looking at a meltdown. The debt problem hasn’t really been addressed. The stock market is in freefall and gold is through the roof. Things are going to get sour or worse.

Omar August 2, 2011 at 4:43 pm

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Let’s see…some simple math….
Right now as it stands, the US is borrowing around 1.5 TRILLION every year, for the foreseeable future, give or take a few Billions. That equates to around 15 TRILLION in new debt in the next 10 years.
This “deal” promises to “cut” 2.4 TRILLION over the next 10 years. But because of baseline budgeting, it’s not really a cut in spending, only a cut in the rate of growth of spending. And this is assuming that a future congress doesn’t decide to toss these “cuts” aside and ignore them.
This means that in the next 10 years, the US will borrow around 12.6 TRILLION in new debt by the year 2021, instead of the projected 15 TRILLION.
Add to that the already existing debt of 14.3 TRILLION, and we will be around 27 TRILLION in the hole by the year 2021.
And who knows how much more after that.
Oh yeah, and that’s not counting the unfunded liabilities of social security and medicare (promises of future payments to people who haven’t retired yet for which there is no money to pay them with when they come to collect)…that’s how many more TRILLIONS?

Does that sound about right? Can someone check my math please? My calculator couldn’t take it anymore and exploded.

Yep. The collapse is going to be EPIC. The riots in Greece and the currency collapse in Argentina are going to look like a holiday compared to what’s headed our way.

These idiots can confiscate every private jet, yacht, mansion, investment account and piggy bank out there…..It may make them feel better, but it won’t make a lick of difference.

David Bishop August 2, 2011 at 4:52 pm

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Unfortunately, for you, your math is wrong. We are already at an oversight of 2.2 trillion this year. I doubt we will not run up another trillion or so over the remaining 4 months, so you’re actually looking at a borrowing rate of almost 3 trillion a year.

Omar August 2, 2011 at 5:32 pm

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Unfortunately for all of us, you mean?

David Bishop August 2, 2011 at 7:31 pm

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Yes. You are correct in your current assumption.

Elrond Hubbard August 2, 2011 at 4:18 pm

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Norah O’Donnell boldly speaking truth to power (the hapless Jay Carney). Giving voice to that silent minority of upper class white liberals who control the MSM.

Gregory Tart August 2, 2011 at 5:17 pm

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What do you expect from some insipid dolt who thinks she is living a life out of the movie Saint Elmo’s fire- this is from Politico (2009)- about Norah meeting famed power chef and husband Geoff Tracy:
“Norah and I had our first night that involved a smooch or something like that” during their freshman year at Georgetown University in 1991, Tracy recalled. They were out with a group of friends at The Dubliner when an “old guy with no teeth” began to hit on O’Donnell, and Tracy offered to make him go away if O’Donnell would go along with what he said. The old guy got off easy. Smooch? This power couple probably finished the night vomiting their guts out in some alley after swallowing the lime in the Corona

jwilson07 August 2, 2011 at 6:45 pm

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Seriously folks, its VERY VERY simple. Buy gold, silver, or platinum. All are traded in dollars and as the dollar melts away you will be safe economically. i would have a few guns and some food too, just to be safe. Don;t worry about the debt, its never going to be fixed now.

poppajoe49 August 2, 2011 at 7:07 pm

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i would have a few guns and some food too, just to be safe.

I’ve been stockpiling ammo for a while now, can never have too much!
Canned food is a pretty good investment, but you might want to check out one of the companies that offer foods with a much longer shelf life.
I know, it sounds like the 50′s when we were talking nuclear holocaust. and I hope that it doesn’t get that bad, but you never know.

Sidekick August 2, 2011 at 7:16 pm

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I think you are right to do so. I’ve got the guns and ammo but I need to stock up on food. The MRE type stuff is probably the way to go. Space is the issue. Did you see the CDC report on preparing for a zombie invasion? It is tongue and cheek and the real idea was to get people to read about preparing for a major disaster. Guns, ammo, food, water, batteries, ability to make a fire, battery powered radio, and flashlights. Anyone who thinks that is paranoid need only reflect on New Orleans post Katrina.

Sidekick August 2, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Olivia August 5, 2011 at 6:39 am

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Seriously folks, its VERY VERY simple. Buy gold, silver, or platinum. All are traded in dollars and as the dollar melts away you will be safe economically. i would have a few guns and some food too, just to be safe.
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Translation: “I swallow every piece of crackpot advice Glenn Beck feeds me. How can I resist it, when he builds up my self-esteem with these Rambo fantasies?”

drb August 5, 2011 at 7:26 am

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2nd thirds!

poppajoe49 August 5, 2011 at 9:52 am

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Translation, I get my investment advice from the 3 stooges. They told me buying gold was stupid, so I guess Soros is an economic dummy.

George Soros buys gold despite dubbing it ‘ultimate bubble’
George Soros doubled his investment in the world’s largest gold fund – just weeks before claiming investing in the precious metal is now the “ultimate bubble”.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/gold/7259161/George-Soros-buys-gold-despite-dubbing-it-ultimate-bubble.html

Ruben August 2, 2011 at 7:13 pm

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‎Norah, you ignorant media whore, 5,000 years ago, Moses said to Israel, “Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land.” When Welfare was introduced, Roosevelt said, “Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a Camel, this is the Promised Land.” Today, the government has stolen our shovels, taxed our asses, raised the price of Camels and mortgaged the Promised Land to China. What more could you possibly want?

David Bishop August 2, 2011 at 7:33 pm

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Analysis GOLD!

Buck O'Fama August 2, 2011 at 7:41 pm

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Today, Obamoses says to the Acorns, “Vote for progressive asses and camels and I will lead you to Utopia, where the streets are paved with OPM”

hisham August 3, 2011 at 9:15 am

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That was a great commentary Ruben. Right on point, to the point and funny as hell! :-)

Olivia August 5, 2011 at 6:42 am

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‎Norah, you ignorant media whore, 5,000 years ago, Moses said to Israel, “Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land.” When Welfare was introduced, Roosevelt said, “Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a Camel, this is the Promised Land.” Today, the government has stolen our shovels, taxed our asses, raised the price of Camels and mortgaged the Promised Land to China. What more could you possibly want?
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I swear, I’ve never seen such whimpering and whining and playing victim outside of a nursery school. If you think welfare is such a bang-up deal, why don’t you go for it? Goodness knows, a lot of the posters here don’t seem to do a lick of work, considering the amount of time they spend blathering on these boards. ;)

RockingHorseGuy August 5, 2011 at 7:05 am

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Two firsts in a row. My timing is off.

drb August 5, 2011 at 7:25 am

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thirds!

poppajoe49 August 5, 2011 at 9:53 am

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Goodness knows, a lot of the posters here don’t seem to do a lick of work, considering the amount of time they spend blathering on these boards.

Pot, meet kettle.

RockingHorseGuy August 5, 2011 at 2:05 pm

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Hey, I’m networking for my businesses online, and just visit here when there’s nothing else going on. I’m really staying pretty busy. Between blathers.

MDLION August 2, 2011 at 7:29 pm

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Katie Couric drove CBS news ratings so far down that I guess Scott Pelley figured he’d try to get them up by having a pretty face at the White House. Does Norah know she’s supposed to be an objective hard news reporter for CBS? When Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh say “we” they’re open about being conservative. These liberals do things like this and then say they’re objective.

Buck O'Fama August 2, 2011 at 7:38 pm

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“Would someone please tell the pretty, but dimwitted reporter that she’s not supposed to reveal that kind of thing in public?”

Truth of the matter is that bus has sailed, as Joe Biden might say. Telling Nothing O’Donnell not to say “me liberal” is like telling Nancy Pelosi not to say she snorts botox. It’s so freakin’ obvious even dogs know it.

toocoldinwa August 2, 2011 at 7:46 pm

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After Dan Rather, is anything from CBS a surprise?

john August 2, 2011 at 8:27 pm

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Ignorant, whiney, liberal twit. As for you calling her “pretty”, a lot of makeup doesn’t make her pretty.

editor August 2, 2011 at 8:40 pm

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In the words of my farmer father, “I wouldn’t kick her out of bed for eating crackers.”

poppajoe49 August 2, 2011 at 8:45 pm

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“I wouldn’t kick her out of bed for eating crackers.”

What if she starts talking? ;-)

perlcat August 2, 2011 at 9:03 pm

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…or if the bondo starts to fall off?

editor August 2, 2011 at 9:29 pm

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Put another cracker in her pie hole.

poppajoe49 August 3, 2011 at 4:13 am

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It’ll take something much bigger to stop her from yapping.

danybhoy August 3, 2011 at 4:28 am

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Are you suggesting that maybe she’s a size queen?

john August 3, 2011 at 7:59 am

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Yea whatever dude, a woman that fkn stupid wouldn’t get anywhere near my bed.

FormerlyDeanH August 3, 2011 at 10:57 am

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Her dog is named Crackers. What then?

jukin August 2, 2011 at 8:51 pm

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GAFFESTASTIC!!!!

danybhoy August 2, 2011 at 11:00 pm

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O’Donnell & other outraged libs, who are outraged that tax rates ain’t high enough, need to know that you can give the IRS as much as you want to & they will gladly take your money. Do it yourself, don’t wait until April 15, go to the IRS & set something up & pay “your fair share”.

deepthinker August 3, 2011 at 5:28 am

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“We got nothing” I didnt realize O’Donnell was part of the administration or a member of the liberal portion of congress. The last time I noticed, she is suppose to be a reporter that is to be unbiased.

thatguy August 3, 2011 at 5:45 am

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The sad thing is, someone needs to ask the same question of the Republicans. “Where are the savings? What about the debt now? We may not have 10 years. Why does Obama get to decide that this is not a campaign issue? So taxes won’t go up this year. You gave him what he needed to get reelected. Taxes sure as Hell will go up then. You gave them everything they wanted and we got nothing.”

FWIW I am sure CBS would say the “we” was the hard working average American that they of course represent and know the will of. Because no one knows the will of the common man better than the media, because the media programed it. Anyone to stupid to appreciate the insight of their intellectual betters is subhuman and does not count as human, common or otherwise.

poppajoe49 August 3, 2011 at 6:01 am

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There are no savings. They didn’t cut current spending, they partially cut future increases in spending. Therefore, we will still have an ever increasing debt load, it just won’t be as much THIS year, but it will still increase.

mrsstone August 3, 2011 at 6:08 am

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dont tell me the media is biased.. c’mon man.

Mitch Hoops August 3, 2011 at 7:49 am

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Sure way to solve debt crisis: get rid of social security, social security disability, medicare and medicaid. If Granny can’t work, refuses to work or can’t get insurance, then have her family take care of her (instead of the nation). If family doesn’t want to foot the bill, then family death panel…Granny gets put on ice floe, muzzled with pillow, or faces business end of .45. Obamacare stays as long as children get full coverage till they’re eighteen: they had no choice in the hand they were dealt. After 18, its game-on; either save or die. It’s just that simple.

hisham August 3, 2011 at 9:23 am

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Mitch, do your personal views ever seem a little harsh to you, or do you ever reread what you write before you submit a post?

Mitch Hoops August 3, 2011 at 10:27 am

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Harsh, yes. But no harm done. Exaggeration gets the point across. It’s my view the Tea Party folks are mostly retirees and right-wingers that hate government. I can handle the left-wing nanny-state folks espousing these programs–that is who they are.
I CAN’T handle right wing-nut/tea party hypocrisy. If you’re a right-winger/tea party person that wants gov’t out of your life, then let’s get rid of SS/Medicare.
The Constitution (Art. I, sec. 8) states Congress provide for “the general welfare and the common defense.” I don’t see where social security or medicare provides for either: these programs are specific to the elderly and not the “general” welfare or the common defense.

Old folks don’t die of strokes or heart attacks anymore; they live to be 85/95 and die of dementia. I don’t want to pay for that. If you can’t work or have your own resources to survive you’re taking up my space and my money.

This reminds me so much of Terry Schivo; the right wing nuts called a special weekend session of Congress for the ENTIRE gov’t to get involved in one persons life. I exaggerate to expose hypocrisy and inconsistency; it gets a rise.

Thanks for asking.

It is what it is

RockingHorseGuy August 3, 2011 at 12:21 pm

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Give back all the money taken from me against my will for the Ponzi scheme, and I’ll gladly remove myself from the program. Don’t forget the interest.

deepthinker August 3, 2011 at 12:42 pm

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I have no problem helping those that can not help themselves. As for the illegal, able body, druggies and drunks, screw them all. You do not wish to work; you do not wish to eat. It’s that simple. Look at the past. The American Indiana’s looked after the frail, those mentally disabled but they sure as hell didn’t care for the lazy ones.

If you can lift a fork, drive a car, use a key board, your lazy ass can work. If people are on the welfare tit and they keep popping out kids. The check and stamps won’t go up with each future dead beat.

Yes I want less government at all levels. It’s time people took responsibility for their actions or inactions. The government can not and will not answer any of your problems. In most cases they have created them.

Mitch Hoops August 3, 2011 at 1:44 pm

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You da’ man!!! My only caveat is the 65+ crowd has/had 40 good working years to make it happen. If you’re 65+ and can’t help yourself, then you gotta’ go.
If you’ve already paid into the system, OK. But for those who haven’t yet (say 16 and under) well, then it’s time to finish SS/SS disability, medicare, and medicaid. That will take care of the 50 trillion in unfunded liabilities.
For those 55 and under, sorry, it’s time to raise the age of SS/Medicare to 75 with vouchers and say bye-bye to medicaid.

perlcat August 4, 2011 at 4:49 pm

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Let’s un-troll this.

Social Security *is* unconstitutional. It is also politically radioactive. A Congress unable to rein their spending in after trillion dollar deficits won’t even touch these programs.

I do think that they need to be placed before the people as a Constitutional Amendment. It’s only fair. The amendment would have to deal with the payments in so they can’t be used as bonus taxes/congressional slush funds like they are now. They have to deal with corruption in the administration so that they are not political payola for voters. The only way I can see this happening is to collect the funds nationally, and have the states administer them. You can’t end these programs — people have come to depend upon them, and more importantly, they have paid for them. These were never sold to the American people as taxes. However, they’ve been treated as such.

Just like the “lock box” is a fiction designed to keep people from marching on DC with torches and pitchforks, the supposed connection between what you pay in and what you get out has misled people into thinking that these are payments and not taxes, and therefore, have a legitimate right to collect on them. Good luck explaining to Joe Sixpack that he paid in for forty years and now he gets nothing, or coming up with the funds to pay for retirees without taking money from eighteen year-olds.

It is possible to make Social Security work, but you’d have to get the electioneering out of it, and keep the funds out of the wrong pockets. It *could* work just like insurance — and life insurance works quite well, thank you.

There is a simple reason why this will never happen, though. In order to put it before the people as a Constitutional Amendment, the politicians would have to admit that it is *not* constitutional. That means that 80+ years worth of elected representatives have violated their oath of office on their first day of work. We need to throw the whole lot into prison for that.

LA Sunset August 3, 2011 at 3:44 pm

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I often wonder if Mitch was born dense or if he had to work on it. I say this because he can dish out more BS in one little paragraph than can be found in all of Pamplona and not bat an eye. He takes the Left wing lies and distortions….and can vomit them up at will, with no thought to what the hell he is saying.

No one is taking Granny’s SS or Medicare away and yet he spews the lie just the same.

But the fascinating part in all of this is, he really believes that the way out of debt to keep spending. More debt will reduce debt. Math is not any of the Left’s strong suit, this is quite obvious.

Just more sea stories from Mitch. He can’t help it. Tell it enough, it becomes true in his mind. I say he save it for the tavern, because the drunk sitting at the end of the bar will buy his crap, if he buys him a beer first.

FormerlyDeanH August 3, 2011 at 9:27 pm

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He is our troll. The timing falls perfectly for Mitch and O’Blovia to be one in the same. On this, the science is settled. The experts are unanimous in their findings.

poppajoe49 August 3, 2011 at 9:35 pm

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Dean, you’re up late!

FormerlyDeanH August 4, 2011 at 5:38 am

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Yes, I put in a few hours OT into the graveyard shift. Sometimes I just can’t sleep. Then there are times, like last night, when I have to get my extra mallets out!

drb August 4, 2011 at 6:46 am

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I know what your sayin’

Mitch Hoops August 4, 2011 at 8:29 am

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I need another drink!!! Cheers LA! No. I really mean it: social security, social security disability, medicare and medicaid are total BS; I’d blow ‘em all up, right now. You gotta’ stop sterotyping man. Those programs suck. Period.

Nevertheless, have a great day.

Mitch Hoops August 4, 2011 at 12:37 pm

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whew…tough audience! four thumbs down for wanting to get rid of all social welfare programs and have a great day…oh well, back to the bottom of the gene pool!

poppajoe49 August 4, 2011 at 1:00 pm

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oh well, back to the bottom of the gene pool!

Wherever you’re most comfortable.

perlcat August 4, 2011 at 4:15 pm

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Problem is, most people think you’re trolling us for saying it.

LA Sunset August 4, 2011 at 4:28 pm

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Let’s take inventory now. Has anyone forgotten to hit a thumbs down on Mitch’s comments?

Mitch, did you miss any on everyone else?

Look closely everyone, make sure you check your work before turning it in.

RockingHorseGuy August 4, 2011 at 10:20 pm

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No, I actually gave him a thumbs up for saying that the unconstitutional programs should be shut down. I’ve been calling SS Socialist Insecurity for about 30 years now. The Federal Government has no business in any of it, and it is illegal. I’ve been forced to pay into an illegal program against my will for decades. Give me my money back, with interest, and I’ll walk away.

perlcat August 4, 2011 at 4:14 pm

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…actually, I’m interested, Mitch. Tell me more about what you don’t like about these programs and how you propose to get rid of them.

Unspecific bitching doesn’t get us anywhere, and I can’t say that they pay back nearly what we put in — but I don’t see how, given that conservatives get hung with the title “heartless bastard” for even suggesting that there is a financial problem, that they can be even replaced.

Me, I have written off any chance of personally getting anything out of them — but I can’t say that the social upheaval from ending these programs will go over well at all.

MDLION August 3, 2011 at 2:13 pm

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Mitch Hoops:”This reminds me so much of Terri Schiavo; the right wing nuts called a special session of Congress for the ENTIRE gov’t to get involved in one person’s life.”

What if that one person was you, Mitch? I hope you’re never lying in a hospital bed and need a little help with nutrition and hydration, food and water. People can need this help after a stroke until they learn to swallow again. They would come into Terri Schiavo’s room as she dehydrated to death over 13 days and water the flowers but not give her any water as she panted like a dog. Maybe this is a preview of coming attractions if the earth pagans take over. It’s a great mystery but Christ dehydrating on the Cross saying “I thirst!”(“Sitio!”) was mystically suffering in Terri Schiavo. At least those murderers let Christ taste wine on a sponge, these murderers wouldn’t even let Terri Schiavo have a piece of ice.

“One death is a tragedy; a million a statistic.” – Stalin

I would say you’re Stalinesque in your views on Terri Schiavo, Mitch, but Stalin said the death of one human being was a tragedy.

Mitch Hoops August 3, 2011 at 2:35 pm

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The Family’s call–not the Stalinesque Government.

thatguy August 3, 2011 at 3:48 pm

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The family, that is the family that would not collect life insurance and then be free to remarry, made that call. That family was ignored by the Stalinesque Government.

Mitch Hoops August 4, 2011 at 8:09 am

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There are several reasons why Obama was elected, one of which was Terri Schiavo: The Right Wing always chants about getting government out of our lives and then they pull the Full House of Congress Weekend Stunt. That was the hypocrisy tipping point. You can’t convene a joint session of Congress to debate a persons particular situation. It’s Right Wing Nut selective outrage gone wild. So now you have Obama: the Community Organizer who flat blew out McCain/Momma Griz.

RockingHorseGuy August 4, 2011 at 8:21 am

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Terri Schiavo was one reason Obama got elected? Ok. Right.

Mitch Hoops August 4, 2011 at 9:14 am

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Right. And Obama will get elected again with 10% unemployment and a double-dip recession. Why? Because the Wing Nuts have this nasty habit of Snatching Defeat From The Jaws Of Victory. It’ll happen again, I’ve no doubt. It’s not about Obama winning; he’s never won an election…it’s always about the other guy stepping in it.

perlcat August 4, 2011 at 3:30 pm

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…actually, Mitch has a point here. Right now I am so mad at my establishment repubican that I’d vote for just about anything.

Blind obedience to political party has gotten us to this point. We have to drive out the corruption from both parties. That is going to take a lot of pink slips for congressmorons, and we can’t settle for SSDD just because they have an ‘R’ after their name. That’s a job for morons like the obloviator.

RockingHorseGuy August 4, 2011 at 10:24 pm

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No, I actually gave him a thumbs up for saying that the unconstitutional programs should be shut down. I’ve been calling SS Socialist Insecurity for about 30 years now. The Federal Government has no business in any of it, and it is illegal. I’ve been forced to pay into an illegal program against my will for decades. Give me my money back, and I’ll walk away.

RockingHorseGuy August 4, 2011 at 10:28 pm

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The post above got severely lost in the jumble.

Anyway, I just gave Mitch another thumb up. When he has a point, I give it to him.

I never thought a man like Bill Clinton could get elected. But the Republicans proved me wrong. I thought the same about Obama. Wrong again. Now, we’re all thinking that Obama doesn’t have a chance in hell of being re-elected. The Republicans are pushing RINOs like they’re the greatest thing on earth, and good men and women don’t stand a chance. I’m really getting nervous, because I don’t think the country can take another four years.

perlcat August 4, 2011 at 10:55 pm

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I would just love to get my money back. That’s a chunk of cash.

RockingHorseGuy August 5, 2011 at 7:07 am

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I could buy a lot of dog food with that money.

hisham August 4, 2011 at 9:15 am

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How is he even connecting the dots here?

poppajoe49 August 4, 2011 at 11:53 am

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On his computer screen, with crayons.

drb August 4, 2011 at 12:20 pm

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LOL! Classic!

poppajoe49 August 4, 2011 at 12:43 pm

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He’s using white-out to fix his mistakes.

drb August 6, 2011 at 2:53 am

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Fweetness, you flatter me!

perlcat August 4, 2011 at 5:02 pm

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I can’t say that Schiavo was the reason that Barry got elected. However, us conservatives chose the wrong hill to die on in that case. Or, more precisely, had it chosen *for* us.

That particular issue was a matter of state law. Congress has no more business debating that than they do to appoint the dogcatcher in Fleabite MS. A violation of state sovereignty is a violation — regardless of whether it comes from the right or the left — and inevitably leads to another violation from the other side once they get into office based upon public outrage over the *first* violation. The only losers in this are every single American, every state, and the nation as a whole.

I know her husband was a creep. So what. There are so many examples of judicial and legal outrage that if Congress violated state sovereignty for every bit of injustice, there would be *no* other government than the federal government.

This issue was just another “hot button” issue tested by the Republican PR hacks, as opposed to the Democrat PR hacks — and many people bought it, just like the DOMA, and the war on cancer patients (erm, the war on drugs). You gotta remember, Mitch, I’m an equal opportunity politician hater. I think they’re all scum. I’m not alone, if Congress’s sub 30% approval rating over the past 8 years is any indicator. The minute we get Democrats to rise up with us, we will get Washington fixed. We can’t do it alone.

MDLION August 3, 2011 at 9:03 pm

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Mitch Hoops:”The Family’s call”

Terri Schiavo’s family wanted to take care of her. Her husband Michael wouldn’t let them. Her husband Michael who had a girlfriend and two children by the girlfriend during his marriage to Terri seemed to have a grave conflict of interest, wouldn’t you say?
http://michaelschiavo.org

MDLION August 4, 2011 at 11:40 am

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Mitch Hoops:”The Right Wing always chants about getting government out of our lives”

You liberals are always saying keep the government out of the bedroom. And now the government is going to pay for women’s birth control starting in 2013. How much further could the government be in the bedroom?

When philandering Michael Schiavo with two children by his mistress was having his incapacitated wife dehydrated to death over 13 days, where were the feminists? And then he married his longtime mistress 10 months after his wife’s death.

If Obama is re-elected it will be because of identity politics. His record is abysmal. But when you get 95% of the black vote and 67% of the Hispanic vote, you barely have to get 40% of the white vote and you win easily with 53%.

poppajoe49 August 4, 2011 at 12:57 pm

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You liberals are always saying keep the government out of the bedroom. And now the government is going to pay for women’s birth control starting in 2013. How much further could the government be in the bedroom?

How about paying for all the AIDS patients that got it from unprotected gay sex?
“I want you to stay out of my bedroom, but pay for the consequences of my actions.”

RockingHorseGuy August 4, 2011 at 10:31 pm

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I don’t give a damn what consenting adults do in private, but I also don’t want to have to pay the price for it. You’re right, the price should fall squarely on the people having the fun. If you want to call it that.

poppajoe49 August 5, 2011 at 4:56 am

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It’s the same with abortion, everyone wants the government to stay out of their bedroom, but when they get pregnant, they want “Planned Homicide” to take care of it for them, and we’re paying for that too!
In the event they decide to keep the baby, we’re paying for their welfare, etc, etc, etc.
It all comes down to “I want to be irresponsible and have someone else pay for the consequences”.

RockingHorseGuy August 5, 2011 at 7:08 am

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If I didn’t take part in the conception, I shouldn’t be on the hook for child support.

poppajoe49 August 5, 2011 at 10:10 am

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But lots of these girls refuse to identify the father, so we are on the hook, in the meantime, they are living with the father, collecting welfare, food stamps, section 8, etc.

RockingHorseGuy August 5, 2011 at 2:07 pm

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If they refuse to ID the sperm donor, no benefits. That’s pretty simple. If they really don’t know who it is, then they have to go on the Maury Povich show.

Olivia August 5, 2011 at 2:12 pm

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If they refuse to ID the sperm donor, no benefits. That’s pretty simple. If they really don’t know who it is, then they have to go on the Maury Povich show.
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Oh, that’s a grand idea. Not only are we going to force 13 year old rape victims to endure pregnancy for the full term—-now we’re going to deny them any form of government assistance unless they can (and will) publicly identify their rapist. @@

Nothing like “compassionate conservatism”—especially when it comes from a smug male who knows he’s never going to be put in that sort of dilemma himself.

poppajoe49 August 5, 2011 at 6:56 pm

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NOBODY HERE HAS EVEN SUGGESTED MAKING RAPE VICTIMS CARRY THE BABY!!!

Now who’s using outrageous, false, emotional scenarios to make a bogus point?

You completely devalue anything you have to say when you do something that you accuse others of doing.

Mitch Hoops August 4, 2011 at 12:48 pm

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Did I break the record? 57 thumbs down for my rants and 50 thumbs up for rants against me! A net delta of 107 (or thereabouts) wingnuts; quite a haul!…the Troll will now knock off for the day.

LA Sunset August 4, 2011 at 2:20 pm

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No…Olivia has the record. But if you keep saying stupid shit and proliferating falsehoods, you could overtake her someday.

It’s something to shoot for.

Good luck.

MDLION August 4, 2011 at 1:51 pm

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Mitch Hoops:”Did I break a record? 57 thumbs down”

Mitch, Olivia’s records for thumbs down on this site will never be scrubbed from the Guinness Book of World Records.

FormerlyDeanH August 4, 2011 at 4:24 pm

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She is the Brett Favre of IHTM that way. The great likelihood that Maxwell and Mitch are alter egos of her would be cheating though. We’d never expect that sort of behavior from a progressive liberal communist.

Coldwarrior57 August 4, 2011 at 3:57 pm

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WE? Does she mean the American people or WE as in her and her political party the democrats? If its the latter and not the former then she is not a “Reporter” she is a political HACK

perlcat August 4, 2011 at 4:32 pm

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She is referring to the turd in her pocket.

RockingHorseGuy August 4, 2011 at 10:32 pm

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She’s playing Whack-a-Troll too?

Sidekick August 5, 2011 at 3:57 pm

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“If the US Government was a family, they would be making $58,000 a year, they spend $75,000 a year & are $327,000 in credit card debt. They are currently proposing BIG spending cuts to reduce their spending to $72,000 a year. These are the actual proportions of the federal budget & debt, reduced to a level that we can understand.” – Dave Ramsey

I think our problems go way beyond Norah O’Donnell’s tenuous grasp on the economic picture.

poppajoe49 August 5, 2011 at 7:30 pm

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Dave Ramsey missed the point.
He was right with:
If the US Government was a family, they would be making $58,000 a year, they spend $75,000 a year & are $327,000 in credit card debt.

But, the spending cuts were off the mark. What was actually done was the family was increasing their spending to $82,500, but decided to cut that back to $81,700.
They never cut actual spending, they cut the proposed spending increases.

Sidekick August 5, 2011 at 7:33 pm

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You’re right. He didn’t factor base line budgeting properly.

MDLION August 5, 2011 at 9:35 pm

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Olivia:”endure pregnancy for the full term”

Motherhood is a Hell prison, isn’t it?

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